/pcbg/ - PC Building General-Spooky Edition

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYtmFd
What ya think /g/? Good enough for gaming at 1440p 60hz and some overclocking?

there is crucial sport 16 gigs kit in sale now, but its 6 year old ram. is it still worth using for years to come?
also a bit pricer but still 4 year old crucial vengeance kit

does cloning OS works everytime or only for some brands of ssds? read some review comments that said it didnt worked for them

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pWC2bj

Thoughts on this? Is this as cheap as I can get it for playing games on high settings at 1080p? I have to keep changing the RAM because the prices keep going back up but as long I as get 2x8GB DDR4-3000, it's all good.

Also, I was thinking of buying some of these on ebay particularly the HDDs. I see that there are some pretty good ones on ebay that go for cheaper than what is shown on Pcpartpicker. Some are used, but as I check they were only used for a brief moment to see if it's working I think.

>>57732668
bump up your power supply to like 750 that way you could put another card in later if you wanted, it would be about $20 more.

>>57732799
I guess I could bump it up but isnt 750 overkill? Wouldnt 650 be more than enough?

Thoughts on this poorfag gaymen rig? It's my first build.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QLz84C
The SSD is $25 off w/visa checkout, and the i3 and 1050 are both 25% off at jet.com so it brings the price down to just under $400. I know the 1050 is a very low end card, but I don't plan on playing any games from the past few years so I think it should handle my needs. My other option is a RX 470 4gb, but that pushes up the price by $60 and cuts into my budget for a monitor. I'm not sure the performance increase for the games I'm playing is worth it considering that I am on a pretty tight budget.

You know what is really spooky??
For maybe 300€ I can now build a PC stronger than the one I have built 7 years ago for 1000+€.
Fuck technology.
If I buy a 1000€ PC now will it be beaten by 300€ PCs in 7 years???

>>57733670
Prove it, show us what you got and the 300 build that will beat it.

I was thinking of replacing the core i5-6600k with the i5-6500 and the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB with the 1060 instead.

I want to play overwatch on ultra/epic settings at 1080p. Will downgrading effect this goal enormously? I'll probably upgrade months after the fact.

>>57734032
No

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>>57733909
This cost around 1000€ back in the days.

>>57734081
So it's all good? Very well. I just saved 200 bucks.

Should I drop the RAM from 16GB to 8GB or just leave it alone? Maybe change the MOBO just to accommodate with the downgrade?

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Prebuilt i7 4790
12 gb ram
GTX 980 ti
Sandisk ultra 2 240gb

i should have bought a better ssd

>>57734218
Having a Z170 board is useless if you dont have a K series CPU so yes.

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I'm pretty sure I can't afford my goal PC today, but I was recommended to at least purchase the most expensive components I can while they're on the best deals they'll be for quite some time.

With that said, I have no build prepared save for a few items:
>i5 6600k
>RX 480
>some sort of BD drive
>at least 8GB RAM

I'd like to keep the entire build around or under $800.

The purpose is to be able to edit/render videos, record instruments/DAW, play vidya with my friends at High settings or better in 1080p, and possibly stream as well.

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Acer XZ350CU

http://www.144hzmonitors.com/monitors/acer-xz350cu-35-inch-ultrawide-144hz-va-freesync-monitor/

$500

Yes or no? Or just get a 1080p Asus swift thing?

>>57734819
I'm a complete novice, but I did read in a guide that it is generally better to purchase and build at the same time in the event that you have to return something or get a defective component.

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is there any point in future-proofing anymore

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Building my first pc, would like to get some advice/get shitted on for my current build.
Mostly going to use it for gaymes and graphic design softwares.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/382Qf8

What's up /g/, elegan/tg/entleman here.

This is my first time on this board so please let me know of I'm being a colossal faggot.

I wanted to ask a few people who have gotten SSDs recently what have their experiences have been with different brands? My story is I built a PC for gaming about... 3 years ago, back when SSDs were just starting to get off the ground and I got a small Samsung EVO 120GB SSD for the OS and your usual WD Black for games, my documents and other shit. Now this thing is filled and giving me low space messages (Probably thanks to fucking windows) and I am looking to have it replaced by something bigger, my aim is 480-500 gigs.

And while I am skilled enough to know how to put a PC together, I really don't care to keep up with the numbers game every 6 months when something new comes out, so I wanna know your stories with other brands. Is Samsung still the top dog? or have cheaper brands caught up to them? what about migration software? are some brands better or more shit at it than others? If you could provide me with some of your experiences it would be greatly appreciated.

>https://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Gaming-Computer-NIGHTHAWK-117/dp/B019FN63DK

Is this case OK /g/?

It has everything I was looking for in a case:
>tons of drive slots
>room for 280 mm radiator on the top
>full tower

Seems like it has everything, and is on sale for cyber monday. Just wanted to make sure it wasn't a notorious POS or something.

Never hurts to ask the board that loves the shit after all.

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>>57732668
Is there a 24/25 reliable gayman monitor in existence for poorfags like me?

Getting trough a mountain of shit is really irritating.

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>tfw no good cyber Monday deals

What is the difference between 6500k and 6600k, which one is better for just gaymin and codin? Is there a big difference?

>>57735477

if you buy a great system right now it will remain a great system in the future. Better technology will always keep popping up so there is no future proofing. Just buy the best you can afford and use that until it breaks/ something significantly better comes out. And keeping in mind new cpus mean new motherboard and possibly new rams so yeah, no future proofing

I'm looking for a monitor to go with my i7 integrated graphics card PC. As you have guessed, i don't play games. I mostly browse da net, use office and watch movies. I have enough m@ney to buy good shit.

Suggest me a good model faggots!

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>>57735836
Forgot picture.

>>57735477

Yes, if you dont live in the US, mostly, because the prices are usually higher.

>>57736219
Looks ok. You can hardly go wrong with a case as long as your shit fits on it.

>>57735773
Pretty much the only two SSD brands that are even worth considering are Samsung and Crucial.
Samsung is still top dog yes and also has the best migration software but it only works with their SSDs
Crucial also makes good SSDs, they aren't as good as Samsung SSDs but they have a very good price/performance ratio.
I'd say either get a Samsung 850 EVO 500GB or a Crucial MX300 525GB. The Samsung is slightly better and comes with neat migration software but the Crucial is cheaper and has 25GB more space.

>>57736199
Fuck you, what resolution and size do you want? Be a bit more specific fag.

>>57736480

What would you say about sandisk ssd?

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Is this still worth upgrading GPU/CPU or should I get a new rig?

>>57736595

if you're really cheap you can get a second hand i7 & 16 gb of ram

if you want to build a pc to enter the future,
get a i5 6600k,z170 mobo,& some 2x8Gb ddr4 ram

or if you're cheap and want to enter the future get a i5 6500, H series mobo, and some 2x4Gb ddr4 ram

>>57735699
That 1060 is way overpriced.

>>57735142
Ah, that makes a lot of sense actually. Thanks for the tip man. I'll be browsing the guides, too.

What do I buy looking for deals on 1070 or 1080

>>57736500
>Resolution
At least FullHD

>Size
20-27"

>>57732763
>>57732772
bump

>>57735699
1060 should be <$200
Get a cheaper mobo
Get i3 for $120

Anyone else hates their third world country where any hardware has 60%+ markups?

Why does DDR4 ram has such high timings? I was used with ddr3 being 9-9-9-24, DDR4 is 15~17 and 35~40

>>57736477
Thanks man.

I don't know too much about manufactures of most parts but I was just thinking that cases were one of those prime situations where a company could produce something based entirely on ascetics with zero consideration for something basic like airflow.

>>57736032
Bump

>>57737012
da

>>57736989
I can't find a 1060 below 200 dollars on Pcpartpicker. The most I see here is 239.99.

>>57737012
Blame your currency + import taxes

>>57736595
Get a new graphics card and hold off on the CPU. You'll be able to pick up an i7 3770K for cheap near the middle of next year

>>57736480
Pretty much any SSD is fine at this point

>>57736032
No such thing as i5 6500K fagtron

>>57735836
Ugly, look at the Fractal Design cases

>>57735477
When Zen and Coffee Lake come out, yes. Even now an unlocked i7 will last a long fucking time.

>>57734859
Looks ok, check reviews for Freesync ghosting

>>57734357
Not entirely true. He could upgrade to an unlocked CPU and use fast RAM in the meantime

>>57733670
Don't buy now, wait for another year then buy. And yes, that's how tech works

>>57732849
650W is fine. You don't want to mGPU 300W cards anyway. Talk about housefire

>>57732668
Looks good, consider an HGST HDD

I have a prebuilt cyberpower pc and plan on adding a 250GB 850 Evo as well as upgrading my GPU.

I'm thinking about getting the EVGA FTW 1070 (only $2 more than the SC edition on Amazon).

I've heard of the EVGA cards having overheating issues, but are they really as bad as I've heard some people say they are? If that's the case, what other cards would you recommend?

I plan on gaming in 1080p but want to future-proof my GPU.

I'm also concerned that the card might be too big for my case (Black X-Trooper). I'm currently running a Radeon HD7870 w/ an i7-3770K.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

>>57737248
Can check case dimensions. It's probably fine.
At least upgrade to a nice monitor if you get a 1070

>>57737188
I can't really wait for another year. I might be able to wait for Zen but no longer probably.

>>57737422
If you have to buy now just get a Z170 mobo + i3 6100 + 3000MHz RAM and upgrade to an unlocked i7 (either Skylake or Kaby Lake) when need be

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Never built a pc before, want a good enough pc to get 1080/60+fps on max. I really don't know shit about specific parts and how they compare, nor do I have any idea how to tell if they fit together. Mainly I want to leave plenty of room for upgrades later on, and I want to avoid the mobo being the biggest bottleneck if/when I upgrade years down the road.

Tell me how shit I am then please tell me how to fix it.

>>57737516
So instead of paying 350€ for i7 right away you are telling me to pay 120€ for i3 and then additional 350 for i7 later.
For what purpose? What is the point of buying an inferior CPU and not being able to use the PC for what am I supposed to be using it instead of buying the CPU that would be good right away?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wKqqPs

I downgraded my CPU and GPU which saved me almost 200 dollars which is cool. I couldn't find a cheaper GPU 1060 on pcpartpicker though.

I think I'm going to keep the MOBO even though it's a z170 because the h170 mini ITX MOBOs are almost the same price as this so it's no big deal price wise and I'm planning on upgrading the cpu anyways.

I'm probably going to buy the HDDs on ebay since they're cheaper.

My goal is the play most games (particularly Overwatch) on high/max settings at 1080p. Also download lots of JAV. Any suggestions would be great.

>>57737543
Can't use the i7 6700K with an x99 mobo. Need a Z170. No point in spending a lot of money on it as long as it has the features / ports you want.

If you clearly have money to burn get a 1440p, >100Hz Gsync monitor, GTX1070, m.2 SSD

>>57734127
He said 2009 you scrub, and 1000 eurocbucks could absolutely get you a little more

>>57734819
You already got the expensive parts, now you just need "the rest of the PC" which really shouldn't change in price nor be over $100-200
Get a 600w 80+ bronze psu, a case, a $25 CPU cooler a drive or two (id recommend HDD+SSD but don't know your budget)

>>57737569
The i7 won't be 350 later. Zen's 6 core / 12 thread CPU (which will compete with Intel's 4c / 8t i7s) is rumored to cost 250USD. Intel is rolling out a 6c / 12t consumer part to compete with AMD's 8c / 16t part. CPU prices are about to plummet

So you can get a used i7 K series for cheap later on, probably around 200 if not 150USD. The i3 will last you a long fucking time anyway, easily 3 - 5 years depending on your standards

>>57735773
>I don't care about the numbers game
>is Samsung still top dog?
Samsung is still top top in terms of numbers only. Their Evos aren't exceptionally reliable and their 950s boil water, but they're are fast
Intel has the best SATA SSDs imo, they're overbuilt and have plenty of failsafes and capacitors.
And then you have the cheap end of SSDs (which are still fine, I'd say for you to get one of these or an 850 evo on sale), OCZ (now toshiba and better than before), Sandisk, crucial, all reasonably priced and fairly decent.
SSD are much more reliable overall than they used to be, so the cheap ones are great options

>>57736989
1060s are normally $250, it's the 3gb version that's $200, and they aren't normally below 200

>>57737698
That is just the thing. I don't live in murrica. The i7 will be 350€ till it gets discontinued. Nothing here will get any cheaper under any circumstances. It simply won't. They could release a 20 core for 50€ and the i7 would still stay 350€.
I need it for streaming stuff and perhaps soem video editing later down the road so I don't think the i3 will be enough.

>>57737055
Latency goes up with clock speeds, and DDR4 kicks ass in clock speed, so higher latency is just a byproduct
Higher frequencies are more important though, and 15CAS for 3200mhz is way better than the 10CAS for 1600mhz for ddr3

>>57737732
If you have needs now, like streaming and editing, of course get what you need, the i7.

But you're wrong about CPU prices not falling in your country. They will.

>>57737623
You say "he". That is me who posted those things. That is my PC. Things are expensive here. + back then it were my relatives that built it so they probably didn't find the best places to shop. Not that there are any here.

>>57737543
Don't get an X99 platform
And you don't need a 6700k. Get a Z170 board (still the latest and greatest, just can't do 6 gpus like X99), a 6600k, a 1080 if you really want it (a 1070 will be exactly as good at 1080p, a rx480 would be fine at 1080p really)

>>57737715
>toshiba ssd

hmm now thats interesting

>>57737759
really doubtful for intel. god knows what will be the course of action for amds with Zen

>>57737787
Well they got ripped off, just saying
Old tech is old tech, but what you posted is not high end old tech

>>57737822
All other AMD CPUs will drop since they're literally killing fm3 and older
Intel CPUs won't drop as zen isn't really competition to high end Intel even with zen

>>57737847
t. retard

Or do you think market forces are a meme?

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I have a budget of 600€ or hopefully less, checked around using the OP's links and ended up with this list.
Is it decent? I'd rather not go lower than i5. Also I was hoping to find better deals today but nothing.

>>57737866
What are you trying to get out of your pc?

>>57737759
i7 6700k - 332€
i7 4790K - 350€

>>57737860
Well people have been saying Intel prices will drop every new Intel or AMD shrink, and I've been waiting since ivy bridge...

>>57737866
No, get the i3 6100 or the i5 6500
Get an aftermarket card

I need a cool white pc chassis in m-Atx. Anyone know some cool ones?

>>57737860
The market is holding its breath for zen, there's enough hype for zen to kill all other AMD sockets, even if zen isn't that good there's simply that much hype

>>57737898
Something everage overall, both for work and games but nothing minmaxed.

>>57737903
>>57737904
AMD hasn't been competitive for years, so of course those prices haven't dropped. Even if AMD's new 4c / 8t part is only on par with the i7 3770K it will significantly depreciate Intel's parts if the launch price is 150USD.

Look at it this way: Intel's 6c / 12t CONSUMER (not prosumer) parts will be approximately the same price as current consumer i7s. All current CPUs including will be depreciated after Zen (AMD) and Coffee Lake (Intel) get released.

>>57737925
AM4 will basically be AMD's only socket, with even the low end APUs being release on the socket next to the high end CPUs. Amazing in you want to get in at a low price and upgrade later.

>>57737866
Is that a 480 gpu? Looks good for a basic system, you can't overclock it but the 6500 is still a good CPU, I don't know if H110 motherboards can run 2400mhz ram (you might need stock 2133mhz)
It looks balanced though

>>57738000
The RAM will be automatically downclocked

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>might buy a i5-3570k and LGA 1155 motherboard

It's still better than any AMD stuff, and it's cheaper or the same price, should I go for it?
Because the cpu will only cost $85 and the motherboard is $50

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHpfFd
Is this good enough for 1440p? Thinking about pairing this with an ROG Swift or Acer Predator.

>>57737987
Look mate. You clearly don't understand how things work outside america. The prices simply won't drop. I mean why would they? People here will either buy Intel or AMD. Regardless of how cheap or expensive they will be. They won't care and they won't have a choice.

>>57737987
Intels 6c non-meme-buyer market is the dime-a-dozen xeons, maybe zen could have a hand in that but it's almost entirely a used market already
For the regular consumers wanting "do-everything" CPUs, I don't think zen will push prices away from intels core line, as Intels core line doesn't highlight cheap multithreaded power, but mid-price multipurpose power

>>57738024
fuck so no dirt cheap fx? also seems zen will come here in Q2 late Q3 of 2017

>>57738007
He still doesn't need it if he can find stock ddr4 cheaper

>>57738039
Nope. In murrica there are shitloads of people, a big market so ofc they will try to gain as many buyers as possible for all their products. But in smaller countries they will just set and keep the prices high because why the fuck would they lower it?

>>57738022
Yes.

Gigabyte Gaming 1070 or EVGA SC 1070? Also, what are the size differences, and is the EVGA FTW card worth it if I'm not into overclocking?

>>57738024
>The prices simply won't drop. I mean why would they?
MARKET. FORCES. I'm done replying to you

>>57738038
Again, I'm not talking about Xeons. I'm talking about CONSUMER i7s.

>>57737124
Www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales

>>57738060
more like salesmen will pocket all those cheaper prices like eurojews they are
I remember when they priced the new amds gpu even higher than those rised up prices in america

>>57738049
Sometimes the 2400 is cheaper than 2133

>>57738039
fxs are at the limits of price, they also brand games and stuff with it and released them with wraith cooler

Thoughts on buying the parts individually?

>>57738085
You mean the quad cores with absolutely unrivaled IPC?
Yeah, a couple octacore bulldozer CPUs will change that

>>57737188
>Ugly, look at the Fractal Design cases
>ugly

Who fucking cares?

>>57738085
And if you're saying it'll replace CPUs like 6800s that's pretty hopeful of you

>>57738085
>market forces meme
Your talk of intel's 6C/12T chips getting slashed nearly 25% in price is a fucking pipe dream. As far as we know, intel will still have superior single threaded performance and in all likelihood will be more power efficient than Zen. If you're seen as the premium brand, you don't slash your prices to compete with the bargain brand -- you spend more on marketing to convince people they need what you have.

Intel CPUs will only go down in price by a truly significant margin if Zen is really, really good and priced very aggressively. If Zen is just plain "good but not great" and priced at what AMD thinks the market will bear (so that they can actually turn a profit selling them) then intel's MSRP may not change very much across the board.

Gentle reminder that the 2500k > 3570k > 4670k > 4690k > 6600k have all debuted (and basically held) at $239.99 throughout their active shelf lives.

i wanna build a mini itx facebook machine for the gran, 16gb of ram, 1tb hdd, and a graphics card of some kind to drive the system a bit more, Price point of 500, including wangblows

Do I really need Western Digital Had Drives. Can't I just get Hitachi or Seagate?

>>57738522
>16gb of ram
For facebook? Stick with 8, lmao. You're already falling for the mITX meme, let's not get crazy here.

Use the saved money to put the OS on a cheap/small SSD. Why would she need a graphics card to "drive the system a bit more" if she's just getting her email and watching youtube? A Pentium with integrated graphics can do that.

>>57738083
get the g1 or windforce giga desu

>>57738570
Why would you recommend that card over an EVGA?

>>57738522
>Facebook machine for granny.
>16 GB of RAM
>Graphics card

Nigga is you crazy?

like the other anon suggested, get her a small SSD instead (128 GB will do) for windows, it'll speed up the system a lot more than 16 GB of RAM will and you'll have spare money to get more for her money, like 2TB for storage instead of 1TB.

>>57738631
EVGA is the one brand to skip this generation, or haven't you heard?

>>57738631
I never heard of gigabyte catching fire

>>57738631
Both of them are near silent. have better coolers so they in theory can be ov'd higher and they dont have the thermal issues the evga card has. Lifelong EVGA user until this and now im not

First time doing a mini build, trying to keep it somewhere under ~$550-$600, the only thing I have right now is the storage, I'll mostly just be using this for games. Thoughts? Could this run most stuff coming out? I checked and everything SHOULD be able to fit into the case

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WFD4Yr

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I wanna upgrade my PC because I got a better paying job, but from what I understand is I should wait until next year?

>>57738705
If you can wait a few months for Zen, it might save you some money. I wouldn't count on it being huge though. Eternal waitfagging sucks but unless there is something you absolutely can't do right now with your current setup then I'd be patient for just a bit longer.

>>57738705
Quite posting the same fucking question over and over again

>>57738699
Also, would it be worth it just to shill out the extra $65 and upgrade to the 3gb 1060 instead?

>>57738431
>Gentle reminder that the 2500k > 3570k > 4670k > 4690k > 6600k have all debuted (and basically held) at $239.99
Yeah but AMD hasn't released a competitive CPU in that time frame either

>>57738387
>a couple octacore bulldozer CPUs
They won't be bulldozer, tard. They're SMT as opposed to CMT.

Looking at an x99 build, should I go with the asus A-II or the msi sli plus?

do these boards fail as much as the reviews would seem to imply?

What are good cases in the 20-30L range for a microATX board that are pretty quiet?
The market seems to have been mostly abandoned here.
I'm looking at the Fractal Design 1100, but I'd like to have some alternatives to consider at least.

>>57732567
Is refurbished fine for monitors?

I really would like this in IPS, would have to do TN if new.

I got a EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW DT for my build but I just found out it has thermal issues and I don't want to have to deal with putting in a new thermal pad or sending it into EVGA for them to do it

If I can get newegg to refund it, what should I get instead? Currently looking at either ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1070 STRIX 8g or 08g, are those good alternatives? Between the 8g and 08g, which the two should I get? The 8g is 380$ and the 08g is 410$

Do I need an x99 board/6800k/6850k if I want to do VR on the vive for stuff like star citizen, or will a z170 with a 6700k be enough?

>>57738955
Z170 and an cheaper i5, maybe an enough, you just need a ballin gpu, a 980ti or a new GTX 10-something

Just curious but why is Windows 7 a bitch to install on skylake?

>>57738955
Unless they're specifically supporting VR (90FPS), you're wasting your time and money. Just wait until that shitty vaporware comes out to buy a rig.

If it does support VR a 6700K will be plenty

>>57739032
No USB3.0 drivers, have to inject them or install via CD

>>57738927
I'd say yes, just make sure you get a warranty

>>57738804
Yes

>>57738543
Everyone smart buys Hitachi or HGST

>>57738811
but WHEN? I remember when it was to release in october this year

>>57739084
Would it be better just to use Windows 10 then? Some people say it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be but I've been using Windows 7 since it came out.

>>57738811
>Yeah but AMD hasn't released a competitive CPU in that time frame either

They didn't, but until they do, predicting what is going to happen due to market forces is impossible. We have next to nothing reliable to go on. Zen being competitive is based on speculation and a general feeling that "AMD won't flop again."

>>57738825
I can't comment on those two boards but my Gigabyte X99 has been a pain in the ass with boot issues. RMA'd the first one after it failed after 1-2 months of use and then the second one still hangs on boot occasionally. Kinda disappointed desu.

X99 is just a flaky series I think, lots of even more expensive boards have poor reviews and what seems to be a high failure rate. The weird thing is that the typical X99 system builder (you would think) would have a pretty decent level of understanding on how to troubleshoot builds too, seeing as how HEDT ain't usually someone's first rodeo, so it's alarming to see so many poorly reviewed X99 boards.

>>57738955
Don't future proof unless you've got the fuck you money to not care. A game like Star Citizen comes out in a year and who knows how ridiculous the requirements could possibly be.

For the record I got the HTC Vive on Black Friday and it works just fine with my 390. Keep in mind if you're hoping VR will be like the Matrix you're in for a massive disappointment. It does though totally reinvent the Light Gun-style game so if you loved Time Crisis it's worth it. Otherwise wait for Gen 2.

How important is the number of fans on a GPU? A lot of these 1060 6GB are around $240 but they all have a single fan. Is it a problem? Should I pay $25ish extra to get one with a dual fan?

>>57739343
Not really a huge deal. The card could be a little bit noisier since that one fan may need to spin at a higher RPM than a two fan system if the GPU and heatsink heat up.

The chips they allot for those single fan units may not be able to overclock very well, so they pair them with compact coolers since they won't be running much faster/hotter than spec anyway.

>>57739034
I actually have no interest in star citizen specifically, it was just the first thing that came to mind for "super high budget and probably graphically demanding VR title".

>>57738936
bumping

>>57739479
Thanks for the response. I haven't done a build since 2010 so I'm not really in the loop anymore. Here's what I've come up with:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Gcfnn

Doing two of these builds (one for me, one for wife), and want to be able to run The Witcher 3 at 60 FPS in 1080p. I've got 1920x1080 monitor (getting on in the years, but still works), and planning to use Windows 7. Already have peripherals. Any thoughts on this build?

Concerns/questions:
1) Is 16GB of RAM necessary, or should I drop it to 8GB and save some cash?
2) I've never overclocked before and don't know anything about it. Should I downgrade to a 6500?

I've only had a 5200RPM, 1TB hard drive to work with my whole life. It's about to crap out.

I want to upgrade for under $100. Are there any suggestions, considering it's Cyber Monday? Should I invest exclusively into an SSD, or split it with two smaller drives?

>>57739544
Shit, I meant to respond to: >>57739469.

>>57739544
8gb is fine.
For what youve said get the 6500. Drop the z170 mobo to a h110 b150 or h170. Those are order of price. Do research to find a good one. Drop the cooler the stock coolers on the 6500s are just fine

Dont need a 6600k at 1080p.

Thats all

>>57739555
here are the best value SSD deals in your price range from what I've seen today. Performance is fairly similar according to a benchmark site so I am going to probably go with the cheaper one

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-cs1311-480gb-internal-sata-iii-solid-state-drive/4825401
If you pay with Visa Checkout on bestbuy it's $25 off

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-2-5-Inch-Height-SDSSDHII-480G-G25/dp/B00M8ABFX6/

>>57739544
>>57739556
Well, if you don't mind spending a couple more bucks, you can pick up the unlocked 6600k (make sure it's "k") to pair with that Z170 mobo. It's really easy to do and totally safe using the BIOS tools. It's a nice way to get the most out of your CPU. If you have no intention of doing that though I'd save some money on the board as you said and pick up an H/B branded board that doesn't support overclocking. The 6600 you have on that list is still locked, it has to have the "k" demarcation to be unlocked for OC.

8 GB is typically "totally fine" for stuff like gaming. You may see a slight benefit by having two sticks of RAM so that the DDR is running in dual channel as opposed to single channel (that goes for 2x4 GB or 2x8 GB). Alternatively you could stick

>>57739646
>Dont need a 6600k at 1080p.
Disagree with this. CPU clockspeed, when it's going to be a bottleneck, has very little to do with screen resolution, especially if he's using an Nvidia GPU (lighter weight driver overhead). Also, stuff like PS2 emulators still benefit from having very high clockspeed/IPC. It's like $30 more than what he's spending and can give him another year out of all those components plus open up some headroom if he does get involved in CPU intensive tasks.

>>57739544
Stick to 16GB

Overclocking isn't that hard, all you really have to do is play with the multiplier and the Vcore voltage. It basicly just boils down to one simple guideline: Getting a stable increase in clock speed at the lowest possable increase of voltage.
It's nothing to be scared about there are plenty of guides on youtube and forums on how to do it. Just remember that every CPU chip is unique. Some chips can reach higher overclock speeds than others and some need less increase in volts to run stable than others.

any deals on a 1050 ti?

>>57739544
>1) Is 16GB of RAM necessary, or should I drop it to 8GB and save some cash?
How many programs do you have open at the same time?
I personally have Steam, Skype, Discord, Dropbox, Firefox with 10+ active tabs, and a music player open at all times minimum. Throw in a game that can't manage its memory or some work programs and things have and will crash out with only 8GB.
If you can manage your programs and don't have things open in the background 24/7, 8GB is fine.

I decided on an rx 470, but I can't decide between these

(This one's actually a 480, don't know if it's worth an extra 20-30)
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814137032

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814150776&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile-_-pla-_-Video+Cards+-+AMD%2FATI-_-N82E16814150776&gclid=CNDnyuGSzNACFQmRfgodHnMCbA&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814125896

https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814126124

How much does the GPU manufacturer matter? I've never heard of ZOTAC. Anyone used it?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Nf6qk
First gaming build

>>57739837
480 is worth the extra 20-30 IMO.

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Hey guys I haven't built a pc in a few years and I'm trying to build one for my gf whos in the animation industry. She'll be using things like photoshop flash etc.
I remember 2 TB HDDs were pretty unstable and crashed more often. Is that still true?
I also remember something about wanting the smaller RAM sticks and staggering them in some way or something? Should I still do this over getting a larger 8GB stick?

Sandisk or Samsung SSD? Evo 850 250GB is about $80 but Ultra II 500GB is about $90.

Are Sandisk or Kingston SSDs any good? those are the only ones i can find in my country.

>>57740172
You can get a 500GB Samsung for $100 right now

>>57739837
I'd go with an RX480 if I were you.

>>57739873
Nice bait, now get out

>>57739870
Zotac is great. GPU manufacturers are important for general reliability, warranty, custom cooling and OC, they also effectively draw more or less power.
Good GPU manufacturers for Nvidia are Zotac, Palit, Asus and PNY. At least that's my opinion.

this bad ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fCqstJ i have a budget of 1500

>>57739873
Upgrade to a GTX 1080 and you're good.

how better should vega be compared to 480

>>57740298
Disgusting, get out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dzWYQV
>i5-6500
>RX480
>sub 700 budget
can I improve this and stay under 700? Am I wasting money anywhere?

>>57740298
Absolutely haram

I got a Bluetooth adapter for my PC for a new Xbox controller
Is there anything really worth using Bluetooth in PC for?

>>57740450
Is this even worth it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230136#close
I feel like I could probably save more and get a similar computer.
Am I wrong?

>>57739870
>>57739916
Alright, thanks dudes

>>57740411
Do not pay $70 for that PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WdvKKZ

How'd I do? Can I do better within this price range?

>>57740483
Accidental reply sorry friend.

>>57740314
>>57740253
I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I know I could have knocked the prices down a bit more and reduced the memory but otherwise I'm completely in the dark. Can you give me some insight so I can get better at this?

>>57739646
>>57739469
>>57739646
>>57739704
>>57739746
>>57739820
>>57740296
>>57740506
All right. I'm the guy here >>57739544. This is the build I've come up with.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k7qstJ

Could I get a final critique/advice before I pull the trigger? I'm going to add an optical drive later if she wants one and we're both going to be running Windows 7. Really appreciate the help tonight.

>>57740483
There's no SSD in that, it's sold out, it's an H110 motherboard (making overclocking impossible and that 6600k pointless) and you could build the same 6600k/480 computer (with z170 mobo) for $600, 500 if you cheap out on non-essential parts

Where's the best place to pick up DDR4 RAM? It looks like it's the same price on every website and it's never on sale.

>>57740559
>Can you give me some insight so I can get better at this?
Yes. Read guides or simply get a pre-build, those things exist for people like you.

>>57740590
>>57740483
Now tell me if there's a useful Bluetooth peripheral other than controllers

>>57740559

>Buying windows
>Buying windows 10

>>57740583
Bumping.

>>57740534
Just to clarify, looking to build a decent gaming desktop PC, complete with peripherals and adapter, on a budget of 800-900 dollars

>>57740583
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZPWZ9W
Changed few things, not really that important apart from the PSU, but it's cheaper.. Jesus fucking Christ i hate you fatburgers for all that good black friday, cyber monday shit...
You know what i can buy on Amazon? Second hand, b-tier chink shit rebrand from cheap chink shit from Ali. Whole EU is such a dead graveyard for any technology whatsoever, it's sad.

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About to pull the trigger on this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126119&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Pic related is current setup. Is it worth the purchase? Will I be forced to upgrade some other components for it to work properly? I built my computer a couple years ago, but I still feel like I don't know shit about how it works.

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-rokos-basilisk-2014-8
http://blog.talkingphilosophy.com/?p=7263

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Picture is my current rig.

Im asking /g/ for their builds to be able to upgrade this POS into the 21st Century, and with the Holiday sales, hopefully it should be too much.

I basically need a new everything but Storage Device, GPU, and PSU. The GTX950 im using has been serving me well and my PSU is an Antec EARTH 750W. As for the Storage, I dont need more room as I dont use it anyway, but I can just get external if I must.

However, as you can see, Im in need of a new Motherboard, CPU, OS, RAM, and a new Case to put everything in with the correct air cooling. Im not in need of any peripherals...I have a great monitar, good mouse/keyboard, and speakers.

I seek your guidance.

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motherboard is some rando fatality asrock 990fx

would i be good just getting a new video card? or would it be more beneficial to scrap the mobo and processor as well? also i do plan on getting more ram

not rendering, not looking for anything ultra super giga high end

>>57740936
I forgot to mention, I do have a Budget of $500 as its all I can afford extra with having to buy things for everyone else and take care of bills.

Is dvi to hdmi worse than just an hdmi?

Is there a way to make a custom sound play for when a PC is switched on? I'm guessing it would take an MP3 player.

>>57740938
>Windows 8

>>57740938
>Hey guys, if I put formula 1 wheels on my Fiat Multipla will it drive like a Ferrari?

Why the fuck do people think putting new GPU's in a shit system will suddenly make it a decent PC? For fuck sake it's not rocket science people.

>>57741703
I assume because most games are not very CPU intensive at all

I never used more than 1 hd. Have no idea what is "raid", have no idea of how to work with it.

Will get a ssd and a hhd soon, install windows on the ssd, and most my games. to the hhd i will leave pictures, videos, shows, movies, etc.

Do i have to do any kind of different configuration to ensure proper use of the ssd speed, or just plug and use?

>>57740938
Get a fx 8350. get 4gb more ram. Your gpu actually seems kind of allright. That phenom and ram will hold you back pretty hard in most games.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nqxpm8

How's this for a mid range build for vidya? Bit over budget but I'd like it to last longer than the dated prebuilt shit I usually buy.

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Future Setup:
2x 2TB HDD RAID 0
Partition: 700GB/remainder
1x 750GB swap HDD
Partition: 700GB/remainder(swap)
1x 128GB SSD
OS Install Drive

My question is, can I make the 700GB partitions on both the swap and 4TB raid drives mirror each other? I'm trying to create a makeshift Raid 10 setup. The other 3.3TB would be for games or other crap I wouldn't miss if a drive failed. Pic related is what I plan to use for the raid 0 setup.

All I need to know is if torrenting windows 7 is still easy.
Anyone know?

>>57741775
Nope just plug and use, the SSD will be faster obviously
Raid0 is splitting half your data between two drives, so two drives reading and writing together makes it much faster, and you get the full capacity of your drives
Raid1 is essentially an eternal backup, so no boost in write speeds, but a boost in read and a 1-drive failsafe
Raid5 is basically raid zero with a "backup" parity block in each hard drive, so if one fails then the other two (you need 3+ drives for raid 5) can fill in the data gap and you don't lose your data. You also get like 2/3 the read/write speed boost of raid0 or something
So unless you need ungodly speeds or constant data fail-safes, you don't need raid

>>57736480
What about Intel SSDs?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236722&ignorebbr=1

Thoughts on this monitor?

>>57740936
>>57740951
Sell that piece of shit for a 100 bucks to some idiot and get this instead for 600 bucks: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sQZ8bj

You can get a Windows 7 or 10 serial key from resellers online for 10 bucks if you really want to have a legit version.

>>57742074
Expensive, obsolete and not really worth it. The 600p is really the only Intel SSD worth considering but now that Samsung has released the 960 EVO series I'd rather go with that. Samsung is just dominating the market at the moment and is cornering the M2 SSD segment.

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>>57742074
They're good and expensive, their server-oriented ones have insanely great memory controllers, and many are overbuilt, here's a 730, two capacitors and plenty of redundancy, and the 2.5" case itself is lined in thermal pads. Won't get that from sandisk
But as far as numbers and speeds go, they're just SSDs

>>57742081
Bretty gud, shame it isn't an IPS panel but other than that it's a solid screen. I have the 27 inch version. Fuckin love it.

>>57742135
The 600p is basically SATA and really nothing special on the chip level (outsourced memory controller, SATA-like speeds 90% of the time)
Intels *high end* 2.5" drives have been killer though

>>57742156
Also the 730 is rated as one of the most well-scaling SSDs for raid, I'm excited to get another 730 and raid 0 them but the prices of 730s have gone up since I bought mine years ago

>>57742135
>>57742183
But I definitely agree that if you're going M2, don't fuck around, get a 950 pro or 960 pro, the only M2s worth buying over SATA desu

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Why do hardware manufacturers for GPU's make the bottom side look all aesthetically pleasing when you can't see it once it's put in, whereas top side that you can see looks plain as shit?

Or am I a retard who never realized for 10 years that you can install them the other way around or something?

>>57742505
Because hot air goes up, not down

>>57742520
That doesn't answer my question. That explains why the fans are on the bottom, but that still doesn't explain why they make that side look fancy rather then the top side.

Best 1080p monitor to buy?

I've been using the same Acer 1600x900 monitor for like 10 years.

About to drop the bomb on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137046&cm_re=MSI_GTX_1070_Quicksilver_OC-_-14-137-046-_-Product

Cheap and performs well, so it seems. Any other recommendations before I finalize it?

Current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ACuteLoli/saved/jjPnQ7

>>57742533
They do make backplates

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>>57742520
but computer cases are already virtical

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g8D3gL
>$750 budget
>US
>Mainly work, school. Will be running vms and maybe occasional photoshop. Linux

Advice?

>>57742678
you need a z170 motherboard to OC

would it be best to wait a couple months for 1080ti or just get a 1080 now for $600~?

>>57742771
never fall for the waiting meme unless it's like a week or so

>>57742806
But falling for the 1080 meme right now is even worse
The 1080ti will be a big step forward, enough to seperate the 1080/1070 as the 1080ti becomes the "first consumer 4K card"

>>57742678
>750ti
>$130
lolno get a used 750ti for dirt cheap or buy a gtx 1050 for like $119.
also >>57742715

Is there any benefit for using 2.5" HDDs over 3.5"? I installed my PS4's HDD (which is 2.5") into my PC a few months ago and it works just fine, but I want to upgrade my storage, and was wondering if there were any downsides.

>>57742985
no

>>57742985
2.5" HDDs are generally less reliable and slower than 3.5" HDDs
SSD of course doesn't matter what size box it's in

>>57742806
>>57742865
ok thanks

>>57742715
>>57742921
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZKZ9W
how is this for a revision? if i OC would i need more cooling or power than what i currently have?

Help me choose

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137046&cm_re=MSI_GTX_1070_Quicksilver_OC-_-14-137-046-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487265

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-08G-P4-6173-KR/dp/B01I60OGUK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480382419&sr=1-2&keywords=evga%2B1070&th=1

Also why is the FTW edition on Amazon cheaper than the SC? Also, why is the Black Edition cheaper than the SC?

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>>57742558
>Siri, what is the best 1080p monitor in 2016?

>>57732567
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ztd6pb
Please have a look, will this work are any components over kill?
My intention is to game and stream.

>>57743084
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wvQVm8
the hyper t2 is /ok/ but the hyper t4 is worth upgrading to over it.

>>57743084
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZKZ9W
1. I'd stick with the 212 evo. not sure about that particular cooler. if you know it's better value then go for it.
2. I usually go for gigabyte mobos, one of the best manufacturer and it has decent prices, so it's very good value
3. why are you paying 80$ for 16gb of ram?
4. I'd go for a better PSU
5. You can get a far better case with close to the same money

This would be my take on the build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jPWXJV

>>57743143
PSU is way too much. you don't need platinum and you don't need 850
Also you're buying a huge watercooler and a non overclockable CPU there's something fucked up there, why are you buying that cooler if you don't wanna OC

>>57743143
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TTgLFd
better and cheaper

>>57743302
>>57743143
also that mobo is WAY overkill if you don't wanna OC, get a H110 socket

>>57743183
>>57743270
thank you both, improved my build considerably

>>57743349
invest in PSU and MOBO, you won't regret it

Thinking of getting the EVGA SC 1070. I've heard bad things about the supposed thermal issues but I've also heard that they've been largely resolved now. In the worst case scenario, I'd just have to get the thermal pads and apply them, pretty easy I'm assuming?

Also, I won't do overclocking or anything like that, just gaming for the most part.

Was also looking at MSI but have heard that EVGA's customer support is superb and MSI's not so much.

Gtx1060 or rx 480? My friend says that the gtx1060 =gtx 980 and the 480 = gtx970. I know that Nvidia is shady but is the card good?

>>57743375
what are you talking about? the s12ii is a fantastically built unit? The Msi z170a-pro is slightly more budget but it's still I nice board.

>>57743412
Where did I say they are bad?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kYGfnn

D-D-D-did I do gud /g/? Grand total I spent (minus the storage which I had from the computer this is replacing, and the optical drive), I spent a grand total of about 860$ total (not including the mouse and keyboard, those were also carry overs)

The case oddly was something I found in one of these threads over the weekend and it sparked my fancy. Might be a little more expensive than I needed, but it came with an extra 120mm for free, and generally I like the latch system for accessing the back of the mobo and cable management.

Buying in the next hour...

Is the ASUS GTX 1070 ROG Strix worth the extr money over the dual?

>>57743468
>needlessly expensive motherboard, ram, case, power supply, and OS.

>>57743492
do you manually overclock your gpu? Do you need a certain aesthetic? Do you value RBG lighting? If the answer is no to all those questions, get the Dual series one. There's an ROG version for only $5 more but it has a lower clock speed, so I'm strictly talking about the $395 dual vs the $430 strix.

>>57743389
Seconding this question.

Are there any distinguishable differences between the two besides brand and vram?

>>57743583
Good perspective, I'd OC later in the card's life but not for the big upgrade I'm making. Maybe the lack of backplate isn't that big a deal either. Guess I'll get the Jet deal, thanks

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https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480385172&sr=1-1&keywords=500gb%2Bssd&th=1

Is there anything that comes close to this, performance and price wise?

Can anyone recommend a good wireless adaptor? Putting my new PC in my college dorm.

>>57743618
my guess is that the 480 will age better but also needs a stronger CPU than the 1060 to not get bottleneck because of the AMD driver overhead

>>57743743
Is the 4690k a good cpu for the 480?

>>57743757
ye. more than enough

>>57743743
>>57743818
How about the i5-3450?

>>57742044
Dead easy. Find a clean iso (Google how to find it since MS shitcanned the Digital River links; its easy after a bit of research), then download Daz Loader from MyDigitalLife forums. Mount the iso, install Windows, run the Loader, you're done.

Help me choose my next GPU, /g/ :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137046&cm_re=MSI_GTX_1070_Quicksilver_OC-_-14-137-046-_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487248

Or any other cards you think would be a better choice.

>>57743849
prolly fine as well but it's getting there. i was thinking more of i3's, AMD FX and Athlon X4's

>>57743389
Uhhh the 1060 is somewhere between a 970 and a 980.
Comparing an AMD card to an nvidia one between generations is a bit fucky so i'm just going to say the 480 performs about as well as a r9 390.

Basically 1060 (6gb) is suitable for 1080p at above 60 fps monitors, or entry level 1440p
the Rx 480 is a nice price sweet spot for 1080p at 60hz. Personally I went with a 480 because I might get freesync later.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WdvKKZ

Thinking of getting a Christmas build for myself. Looking to build a gaming PC, complete with peripherals and an adapter, on a budget of $800-900.

Can I go any further than this?

Hey boys what do you think of this build, never built a pc before but looking to join the master race, my friend who knows more about computers than me helped me out but I thought I'd get a second opinion.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7h3hm8

>>57744040
also probably a dumb move but I bought the CPU already so I hope it''s ok

So speaking of the 4690k, what is the best gpu that can go with that card without bottlenecking or whatever

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>>57732567
How do you know when to get new parts? I'm looking to upgrade but I don't know if I just need a new motherboard or when it's feasible or not. Looking to improve specs. Budget is $400. Not sure what the weakest link is in this system or if the motherboard itself needs to be replaced?

Current hardware:

All right, /g/. Recommend me a good 1920x1080 monitor. 144Hz preferred. Main use will be games.

Are MSI's Gaming X Cards really worth the extra $$$? What do they offer that the cheaper Gigabyte ones don't? Is it just better cooling?

>>57743969
Do you want to use up your whole $900 budget and get a kick-ass system?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4RGbj

>>57744128
>How do you know when to get new parts?
Can't run games on ultra/high/medium/at all anymore?
Want to run games on ultra/high/medium/at all?
Hard drive is full?
Don't have enough ram to use all your modern applications?
Not satisfied with how long it takes to boot something up?
Are your components failing from age?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zGWXJV
is good?

Are there any better options for SSD? I don't know about m.2.
Any other case suggestions? Thanks

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>>57743389
>>57743618
>>57743907
GTX 1060 > RX 480

>>57744205
>Can't run games on ultra/high/medium/at all anymore?
This one, yeah, but not entirely sure what the problem is. 2x Radeon 6700's, motherboard, processor? Oh mysterious anon, how do you find what needs to be replaced?

>>57743519

Ram: 60 after sale and promo code
MOBO: 80 after clearance, combo with CPU, and rebate
OS: Free through my school
PSU: 109 for what johnnyguru says is "the best psu for the money", and that was when he thought it was 150.
Case: blow it out your ass, not everyone hates themselves.

Like I said, I spent 860 on the build in total.

>>57744062
>also probably a dumb move but I bought the CPU already so I hope it''s ok
Well yes. What resolution are you gaming at btw? Is it only for gaming?
This is my take on your build : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CbsJgL

>>57744233
Yes. The 1060 is generally better than a 480. Is it $50 better? Not to me personally.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MCxrRG

I'd like to know if it's possible to replace any parts with cheaper alternatives without negatively effecting overall performance significantly.

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What's the best price for 6600k now? I don't have a microcenter near me

>>57744276
Well you should've mentioned the deals you got. A $169 mobo for $80 is insane. Free os is great. I still think a cheaper psu (like the seasonic bronze ones for example) would have been more than suitable, but if you got those kinds of discounts, then yes, pretty darn good.

>>57744411
well the i5 6600 is only 100mhz faster than a 6500 and costs $20 more. Not really worth the price difference imo. You can get cheaper ram, a cheaper hard drive (seagate barracuda 1tb is $35 atm). You can get cheaper ram. In fact, if you're at 1080p you probably don't need 16gb. Though if that mobo only has 2 dimms you might want the 16gb just to save yourself the future upgrade.
Rest sooms pretty damn good. I can't recommend the EVGA Acx3.0 cards given the vrm fiasco though.

>>57744391
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CbsJgL
do I not need those extra fans? Also as for what resolution I'm currently gaming at, the answer is I'm not really, I currently just have a 5 year old lap top with like a 670M or something

>>57744276
>Ram: 60 after sale and promo code
Link?

Does motherboard matter? Would I benefit off buying an expensive motherboard, or I can go with a cheap one, because I'm on a tight budget.

>>57744542
The case comes with 2 fans for exhaust in the top and rear. You will be populating your front intake with the radiator, which will be intaking air. Unless you want a push/pull config (which you will need 6 total fan headers for your system), then no, you don't need extra fans. Just make sure the radiator is set to intake.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/barclinxox/saved/#view=XZxsYJ
*scoffs*
You kids wish you were as cool as me.

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/g/ Helping my brother put together a rig for xmas. He is a bit poorfag because he has 2 kids and is just a construction worker.

He is getting the MoBo from me and the power supply from me.
I have them saved from old computers/ build I never did.
Pls r8/10 and h8 if it's shit. He is really excited to join the master race.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hP3gL

Does it matter what brand of GPU I get for the 1070 beyond avoiding EVGA?

>>57744645
forgot to mention He is also getting RAM from me. I had a few sticks laying around.

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>>57744598
Bumping this.

Also is there a way to know what kind of CPU's you can put in your motherboard or are they all universal., I have an older motherboard myself.

>>57744598
Not really, but don't get the cheapest shittiest one either. What type of mobo are you looking for?

>>57744623
also one other dumb question, at first my friend also recommended that I get a SSD and a regular hard drive like you did but then said it might be better just to get a 1TB solid state, how hard is separate out what you want on the SSD versus regular hard drive?

>>57744645
everything I want to r8/h8 is already out of his control, so i'll mostly just focus on being constructive.
Everything looks mostly fine, though I would maybe upgrade to a hyper t4 if he wants to put some oc into that chip (it needs it). ORR keep the cooler the same, get a fx 8350 and run it at stock clock speeds.
It might be worth trying to track down a used Gtx 960. They can usually be found for about $90-100. Obviously don't buy a refurb unit. I'm talking craigslist, ebay, ect.

>>57744680
What kind of CPU are you looking for? No, they are not universal.
>>57744689
Get a SSD and a HDD. It's a waste of money to store shit like movies on a SSD. Your HDD is gonna appear as a separate drive in my computer

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>>57744592

Newegg, cyber monday plus a promo code I got from literally googling "newegg promo code"

>>57744689
Install your Os on the SSD, download steam, create a default install file location for new and/or large games. Steam will automatically download them to the hard disk. A 525gb hard drive will give you enough breathing room to put your most played games on your ssd instead so you don't have to worry about load screens.
I also go into Windows File explorer, create a file on my HDD that labeled "MEDIA" That I put my movies / pictures onto within subfolders.

>>57744763
Ya dun goofed. I got 3000 2x8 for that price since they have a 10% off promo code only for RAM

>>57744737
AMD 8300 series or an i5 6600

>>57744781
I don't understand why people need to be spoonfed such basic concepts. shaking my head to be honest family

>>57744735
If I buy the 1050 for myself and give him my GTX970 strix would that be better? That would save him money that he could put into an 8 core.

>>57744840
And before I look like a Super jew I AM buying him windows. I know it just looks like im giving him a bunch of hand-me-down parts.

>>57744530

Yeah, micro center is in my town so I was able to get an i5 6600K for 179, and the mobo was an "open box" clearance (knocked 30 off), but it was brand new otherwise, the combo with the CPU dropped another 30 off, and gigabyte has a 20 rebate going right now. So yeah, I figured I could spring for a neat case and a great PSU with really high efficiency (because I pay my electricity bills) with all that dosh I saved elsewhere.

Thanks random hero anon who mentioned micro center last night, saved me about 200 bucks.

>>57744840
1050ti is a pretty noticeable downgrade from a 970. You'd need to buy a 1060 for yourself.
If he doesn't have the extra $30-40 to spend on a cpu, just spend an extra $15 to get a nice cpu cooler and OC it as much as you can. But seriously, there's great deals out there for used graphics cards.

>>57744790

Meh, I didnt find any research that showed a difference that mattered between those, so I got the cheapest DDR4 ram I could find that made 16gb by 2x8

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I'm so ready to drop AT LEAST a grand on a build here.
I could go up to maybe $1400 ish

Give me your best boys

>>57744790
>Ya dun goofed. I got 3000 2x8 for that price since they have a 10% off promo code only for RAM
What is the promo code??

>>57744925
Get a Titan and go dumpster diving for everything else like the cpu and motherboard and shit.

about to pull the trigger on https://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00P0EQD1Q

somone convince me otherwise

>>57744763
>10% off all ram all day
Master insider deelz

>>57744926
EMCFFGM99

>>57744979

lol they asked how it was done like it was harder than just googling it. Don't h8 just because I answered a question.

>>57744925
$1400 is a really weeeird price bracket. You're either getting a gimped 6700k + 1080 machine or a blinged the fuck out machine with either a 6600k + 1080 or a 6700k + 1070

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2TP3gL
Is my build shit? Playing at 1080p/144hz.

>>57745067
I really can't find anything to criticize here. Power supply is somewhat overkill but that's a great fuckin unit. If you want one ALMOST as good, the EVGA GQ 650w is $70 (yes, i've been shilling this for several threads now). But up to you. Maybe add one more intake fan because the define S is somewhat... insulated i guess? Due to that sound dampening stuff. But that's pretty optional.

>>57744875
okay thanks dude

>>57744952
Yo you can pay for this shit in payments
This changes everything...

>>57745018
That's fair. I did not conduct the proper research before today and now I just wanna buy one because Cyber Monday

>>57745142
Thanks for the input.

This is my current build but my gpu is kill, what should I upgrade in this anons? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TXMZ9W

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>>57745161
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HZq4Yr
This is the list I made for that anon. Other's feel free to rate it. I decided to go with a black/white theme because fuck it, we're above $1k might as well put a couple bucks into aesthetics.

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Is AMD generally better with software than Nvidia?

>>57745372
I'm looking at this and it seems pretty solid
Handy too since I don't have a monitor either!
Definitely considering this, will post pics if I go through with it

Does the RX 480 run Direct X12 native games far better than the GTX 1060?

>>57745441
Yes. Varies from game to game though.

>>57745441
Definitely. 1060 is better overall for now though that may change in the future

>>57745389
AMD tries harder to make their less powerful systems work as well.

>>57745372
4ms response time on that monitor and no Gsync. Obviously they get expensive quickly but id get a 1080p 144hz with Gsync over a 1440p without which are almost the same. If anything trim some fat on the build.

>>57745310
Faster ram and an SSD if you feel slow. Everything else is good. Get a 1060 3gb (ignore the retards who think the 1 core difference will matter) or an RX 480 or a RX 470 for budget thats still pretty good.

>>57745067
Youre all good

Are you guys sure I only need a Phillips screwdriver?

Is 3840 × 2160 at 60fps accomplished with a 6700k and a gtx1080 on most modernish games?

Not really a PC build, but I'm thinking of buying a laptop.
My current laptop is an ancient HP I bought from a friend for only 50 dollars a couple years ago. I loaded it with gog torrents/retro classics and considered it a 50 dollars well spent. However it has no actual battery, it's starting to BSoD, and since it uses integrated intel and is a piece of shit there are some indie games I'd like to run, like darkest dungeon or terraria (yes, this thing can't run terraria or BoI without overheating)
So, rather than a 2 grand ricer pos, I'm looking for something thats
>around 200-250 bucks (canadian)
>has a good battery life
>doesn't run intel integrated graphics
>is reliable/won't break in 2 years of use
I know nothing about the laptop market, even less about the bargain bin laptop market.

>>57745792
High settings? Probably. Ultra settings? Sometimes. Depends on the game, but there will be times where you are under 60 fps. I think 1440p G-sync would be a better gaming experience if you aren't willing to SLI.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWfH7h

Gaming PC, first time so I don't really know what I'm doing.

What monitor would be good to pair with this? Preferably 144hz. I also need a wireless network adapter, any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>57745805
>dedicated gpu
>cheap
>good battery life and build quality/ reliability
you can only have two of those things in a laptop anon.

>>57745831
Please state budget.

>>57745848
About $1700 if we include the monitor and adapter.

>>57745837
alright alright, I'll take the first 2. I'm pretty used to the toastertop being plugged in anyways. Although I'd like a minimum of 4 hours.

Upgrading GPU to GTX 1070 and need help deciding what brand to go with.

Current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ACuteLoli/saved/jjPnQ7

Thinking about the EVGA SC or this that I found on NewEgg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137046&cm_re=MSI_GTX_1070_Quicksilver_OC-_-14-137-046-_-Product

What's even the difference between the two cards? Any other suggestions?

>>57745888
This isn't really on the topic of the thread, so this is as much as I'm going to help you. A couple years back i had an MSI laptop that cost about $450 or 500 usd with an nvidia Geforce 820m in it. It still does pretty decent in a few games like World of Warcraft. It even plays Overwatch on lowest settings, though it looks like a Playstation1 era game. I imagine 820m laptops are now harder to find, but probably cheap. You don't have much option but to buy used.

Is it worth building with Windows 10 for Direct X 12?

>>57745907
>Thinking about the EVGA SC
Enjoy your toasted card.

Still deciding between the 1060 and the RX 480 and read someone say in an RX 480 review:

>I recently switched from AMD to Nvidia. I'm so unhappy now with the Nvidia in a lot of small ways which these reviews never cover.

>1) AMD has better 2D VSync, so ordinary web video looks better on AMD. With the Nvidia card, I get "tearing" (an ugly horizontal line break in the image) on Netflix and Youtube. And yes, I have the latest drivers and have tried every possible VSync mode and setting. There is no solution for this, Nvidia's VSync is only for gaming.

>2) AMD's drivers gave better resolution and display switching - with the AMD card, resolution changes and display switching could be done easily and reliably using hotkeys, you could also activate pre-set profiles from the taskbar icon. Nvidia drivers have no hotkeys, there is an add-on display manager which has hotkeys but it is not reliable (use it once and it can't be used again).

>3) My PC started faster with AMD than with Nvidia.

>4) The actual Nvidia driver software is sucky, it's bloated, with a slow and non-intuitive user interface.

>5) Older games - for example Minecraft which my kids play - look terrible on Nvidia, a lot of on-screen artifacts (visible lines between blocks).

>6) My PC feels less stable with Nvidia drivers, I have to restart it every couple of days. With AMD drivers it was rock solid stable, could run for 1 month or longer without restarts.

Is this true?

>>57745869
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GQHhFd

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r8 my first build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pMHhFd

>>57746238
I actually just switched from a gtx 960 to an Rx 480, so here's my perspective:
1) I never noticed the problem with nvidia. I always watched youtube videos in 1080p @ 60fps and never really saw any screen tearing. And yes, I know what screen tearing is and what it looks like.
2) Who the heck switched resolution all the time? If you're running multi-monitor, sure, but why can't you just Alt-Tab between monitors?
3) bullshit, unless they had geforce experience start on bootup, in which case that's their own damn fault.
4) true.
5) wot? sounds like a problem with the card, or something is glitching out.
6) works on my machine.

>>57746356
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pMHhFd
>430w PSU

Enjoy the housefire.

Get a 750w Gold Rated PSU.
Please.

>>57746395
>Get a 750w Gold Rated PSU.
What kind do you recommend specifically?

>>57746321
Thanks anon, I appreciate the help.

Is it true that that network adapter is noisy? If I can get a good connection that's great but I'd prefer that it was on the quieter side.

Is there any reason to buy windows 10 when 7 is half the price and better at everything?

Yes I need windows.

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I'm guessing keys like pic related are illegitimate? What is the downside to this?

>>57746444
DirectX 12

Who /dreamspark/ here?

Is it worth it to pay a bit extra for a Samsung 850 EVO over a Crucial MX300? That five-year warranty sounds great. I'm upgrading from an old WD Blue with low rpm.

>>57746321
wtf? this is garbage. Retarded expensive hard drive, Expensive ass case, retarded expensive psu, $93 wifi adapter, and a freesync monitor with an nvidia gpu.
>>57746395 bullshit. granted, a 430 is probably lower than i'd like to see, but a well built bronze 550w or up will be fine.

>>57746427
Seasonic/EVGA

>>57746441
No idea man, just pulled that one out of the blue.

I'm an ethernet kind of guy, moving away from wifi.

I was Jumper manifested into any videogame I played back in the day man, shit was rough.

>>57746045
>Enjoy your toasted card.
Pretty sure the issues with the cards are largely fixed by now. Plus, I'm not looking into overclocking or anything of that sort.

>>57746539
Only if you're prepared to install the thermal pads, which are a pain.

Overclocking doesn't roast it, poor design does.

>>57746458
1. Try Kinguin.com instead.
2. You lose money, that's the only downside. Oh, and an OS.

>>57746502
HDD is WD Black, it can take a beating and last a bit longer.

Case, I figured might as well flesh out the budget, have something nice.

PSU, didn't want to skimp out on it. EVGA had something cheaper, but I was like "Hell, it's seasonic, why the hell not."

Wifi adapter, pulled that out of the blue, I'll give that one.

Freesync with nvidia, that was an honest mistake.

Don't know why I thought I had an AMD card in the build setup.

And as for the PSU, I wouldn't test that shit period. I always leave some room for wattage.

>>57746427
Get this. Deal ends in two hours

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153212

>>57746479
my school had a fucking premium subscription to that shit and it took me emailing their asses 15 times before I could get access to it. Free everything microsoft forever is pretty cool tho, so its worth it.

>>57746502
better?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GF7WzM

BTW, I don't trust seagate HDDs.

>>57746321
Not him, but will the mastercase pro fit 3 HDD's plus a optical drive and a 11.75" GPU?

If not 3, then 2?

>>57746557
I usually just take my maximum power consumption, round it up generously (i.e if I'm going to use 440w when overclocked, i'll say 500w) and then multiply by 1.2 (or 20%) to account for random power spikes. So i'd use a 600w unit for a machine that maxed out at 440w. A lot of people would call that even overshooting it by a lot.
but this anon is using 365, lets say it's 400 to be generous. Heck ill even say 420 in case they oc the gpu. This gives us 504. So a 500 or 550w unit should be more than fine. Seasonic makes a very nice 520w psu actually.

Do hard drives need to be mounted?
I've been using a prebuilt's case to save money (it works and has some sd card slots built into it), but I have no clue how to open the little cage for the hard drives and I don't even have the screws.
Can I just leave them laying loose on the ground? Maybe tape them to the side of the cage? My GPU doesn't actually fit in the case so I leave the side open anyways.

>>57746685
It's looking better. That monitor is weird. Not sure what kind of benefit you'd see from 144hz to 180hz. Heck, i don't even know what games could hit that frame-rate outside of some very light FPS games like CS:Go, TF2, ect. Also mobas I guess.
I've heard win7 is a bitch to install with skylake btw.
Also get rid of that abomination of a wifi adapter. Why not ethernet?

>>57746686
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mTCrxr/cooler-master-case-mcy005pkwn00
3 HDDs
>Check
Optical Drive
>Check
11.65 with drive cages
16.22 without drive cages

(Note there are cage adapters out there where you can place HDDs into the ODD area.)

>>57746688
I see where you're coming from on that, but I usually double or cut it at 1.5x what the wattage is stated at.

IIRC, I might be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that peak efficiency isn't when the PSU is at full load, but somewhere near the middle of it's max capacity.

>>57746707
Post pics man, I'm worried about what you might be asking.

>>57746749
Monitor was the only one under 350 bucks, everything else went past 350.

Eh, I used a CD with my i3-6100 then removed the ODD I used to install it.

Didn't have too much of a problem, even now.

The Wifi Adapter, don't ask me about it.

Ask >>57745869 >>57746441
about the wifi deal.

I'm looking to upgrade from an AMD 7850 to a GTX 1060. Should I upgrade my PSU, which is currently a Thermaltake-500nl1nh-1?