Is there a more brilliant man in tech?

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>>57718177
this! he won the US presidential medal of freedom!

>>57718177
>Gates
>writes a shitty non-free OS in the 90s
>retires
>Carmack
>writes countless engines
>actively works in future development projects like VR
>will never retire because he's probably smart enough to dump his mind into a computer and live for eternity

>>57718270

Shut up CIA nigger

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>>57718290

>>57718278

Tech-wise Gates was the LAST tech genius. All we had since were marketing geniuses.

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>>57718109
>that 1080p 50kg crt

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>>57718323
>>57718109

>The image you see above is a classic shot of John Carmack hard at work programming some integral part of the now legendary game Quake.


>Most people look at the picture and just see a very focused, famous coder. But look more closely and you realize that display he’s staring at is absolutely huge. Then you realize this is 1995 when LCD monitors are still in their infancy for desktop displays and any flat screen is both small and costs a small fortune.


>The display Carmack is working with is a very different beast, and by beast we mean this display was absolutely huge. It’s a Silicon Graphics/Integraph InterView 28hd96 color monitor. It’s basically a 28-inch CRT that weighed a back-breaking 45kg (99.5lb). Its dimensions were 49.5 x 69.9 x 62cm and its typical power consumption was 180 watts!


>So this is just a TV being used as a monitor? No, the 28hd96 was a proper computer monitor that had a few qualities making it very desirable to Carmack. Top of the list was the fact it could handle 1920 x 1080 resolutions, meaning whatever Carmack had under the desk in terms of computing power was probably working flat out to serve such a high resolution image back in ’95.


>The actual display size was only 25.9 inches, and the brightness maxed out at 100cd/m2. But even so, this monitor would have been the envy of many a programmer (and gamer) back then. The screen real estate must have seemed very excessive to most computer users at the time.

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Mike Acton

>>57718270
He said brilliant, not someone who is literally insane.

>>57718463
whats the difference?

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>>57718316

>>57718109
did he even write a compiler?

>>57718278
>Carmack

>Doom 1/2 incredibly successful, revolutionize industry

>Fires co-founder because Quake wasn't as good as Doom

>Focuses on technology and game engine instead of gameplay

>Gets mad when Doom 3: Dark Corridor Simulator isn't as Successful as Half-life 2 and goes "Muh engine"

>Switches to Console because "Fuck Pirates killing PC >:^("

>Blames players when their console Game flops (Rage) and goes "muh engine"

>Decides to jump into the VR bandwagon to make gimmick games instead of quality ones

>Sells out to Facebook, eventually allow Samsung to dominate VR with their shitty phone app pay 2 win games

>In an attempt to extort nostalgia money from players they release "Doom" with Le epic Doom Guy hitting demons with his fists like in the internet memes rofl, only to realize it's what he should have done 12 years ago and people forget about to for having a compelling multiplayer

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>>57718539

>>57718548
>Fires co-founder because Quake wasn't as good as Doom
Thats not why Romero was "pushed out". Thats because he was bragging too much and not working enough. Go read Masters of Doom, it'll prevent you from saying such bs
>Focuses on technology and game engine instead of gameplay
You wouldn't have had great FPS gameplay if it wasn't for his engines.
>Decides to jump into the VR bandwagon to make gimmick games instead of quality ones
VR applies to sooo much that just fucking games.

>>57718548
>Fires co-founder because Quake wasn't as good as Doom

didn't john get fired because he was refusing to work and would just sit in his office playing doom's deathmatch and masterbating all day?

>>57718600
>Romero
also romero is kind of a faggot

>>57718607
Yep, correct. Romero was just playing all day, breaking office gear and going to conventions to be adored by fans

>>57718630
Because he is a goth and wears nail polish? Nah. He made the best levels in the best games, man. I have yet to find better levels and gameplay than DOOM 1.

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>man
uh, sexist much?

>>57718660
>He made the best levels in the best games

yes and then he started acting like a faggot refusing to work and just sitting around stroking his own ego all day.

>>57718708
Sadly yeah. Wasted potential imo. Same for his recent comeback with a new game that is basically Daikatana Remastered, he fucked up the Kickstarter by going like "I'm John Romero support my game pls thks" with not even a concept art.

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>>57718109
Here's a candidate.

>>57718316

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdX4uJUwSFwiY3XBvu-F_-Q/live

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>>57718670
no so fast femicunt

>>57718109
>linus.jpg

>>57718804
Carmack's net worth should be a lot higher.

>>57718660
doom is overrated. at the time it was cool, but it has aged horribly. super metroid is a better game than every doom.

>>57718870
Supe Metroid may be excellent but its like comparing apples and oranges. (plus imo stuff like the control scheme of SM has aged horribly). DOOM is still one of the bests FPSs out there imo, and way better than most modern ass FPS

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>>57718278
>smart enough to dump his mind into a computer and live for eternity

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>>57718804
>anita
>a fucking leaf
why am i not surprised?

>>57718837
>mfw jobs died of aids

>>57718902
>control scheme of SM has aged horribly
W E W

>>57718920
>control scheme of SM has aged horribly
>W E W
Thats what I think, everytime I try to play it in a "modern" way like on the Wii's Virtual Console or on an emu, there is no way to get natural controls.

>>57718948
play it with a super nintendo you new-at-life-fag

>>57718989
I said modern way. SNES aren't going to be around forever.

>>57718278
>retire
>sell snake oil deodorant powders to pajeets to encourage them poo in loo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXbk7kotVlw

>>57718492
Is this the origin of the CIA nigger meme? I've heard of the guy, but I've never read his blog or watched his weird videos or any of that other shit you people do to him.

>>57718177
>Called altair basic "the coolest code I ever wrote"
>Created by MS cofounder Paul Allen
>widely credited with genius tier business acumen for licensing his OS to IBM.
>Dad was a lawyer. Bill was like 14 ffs.
>IBM first negotiated with the wife of the guy who actually created what would be msdos.
>When they couldn't come to an agreement, he sold his OS to Bill Gates, who ('s dad) had already negotiated a licensing arrangement with IBM.
>The original Gates OS was nothing more than a trial balloon.

>>57719008
wintendo will be releasing a mini-snes next year, I guarantee it

>>57718743
Romero was a one trick pony, while Carmack kept on going.

>>57719212
i'm so fucking confused they literally engineered something so the smell doens't bother them but didn't create toilets with enough water pressure to just flush the shit down quickly like american toilets?

i don't understand why the can't just have plumbing infastructure like we have?

>>57718109
>Is there a more brilliant man in tech?
Yes, myself.

>>57718109
No, he is literally a god+immortal

>>57718349
I still envy that monitor. Try finding a 1080p CRT now.

>>57718109
>those times steve jobs had to have jc single-handedly fix his teams fuck ups

i don't think so, anon

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>>57718804
>No profession field for Anita

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>>57718109
Alan Kay is still alive and working, so yes.

>>57721868
>no author category for carmack

>>57718194
Triggered in a Stallman way

>>57718278
Was Gates even writing any code himself in the 90s? I thought he was actively coding mainly in the 70s, and then in the 80s for a bit before they had hired enough personnel.

>>57722006
Yeah, iirc he was actually very involved in the nitty-gritty of OS development up until he basically retired to do other things.

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>>57718109
Yes, his name is John McCarthy.

>>57718463
But he's brilliant because he is insane

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you're all wrong. without him, you wouldn't have PCs, GUI, WYSIWYG, fonts etc etc

>>57719366
>>widely credited with genius tier business acumen for licensing his OS to IBM.
This only happened because Gary Killdall was away when IBM came to him to sign the contract and his wife refused to sign the NDA.

>>57720910
Mike Abrash did help him out a lot with the Doom engine though. His contributions are way too overlooked and neglected.

For his work on the engines he deserves a lot of credit. A lot more than he got.

Certainly deserves a higher net worth than $4,000,000. That's ridiculous. Especially since some Nazi cunt can get half a million for literally nothing. AND ON TOP OF BEING A FRAUD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cBCF5wmWYA

That's not fair. That's not how things should work. I get people can shell out shekels to who they want, but there's something systemically wrong with this. Especially since she's a "valued" person in technology. C'mon.

>>57722145
So that's why NT 5 (the development of which was still overlooked by Gates) was good while NT 6 created all under Ballmer sucked (and still does, the "NT 10" thing is just marketing and nothing else).

>>57722940
I understand your sadness,
but that's the way it is

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>>57722940
Grigori Perelman solved a Clay Mathematics Institute Millennium Prize problem and lives in plain conditions with his mother.
He turned down the $1,000,000 reward but even if he took it, that's just not much for a one-of-a-kind genius.

How about Donald Knuth, Dijkstra and a bunch of other people who laid down the foundations of CS

>>57718539
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>>57723500
Donald Knuth also wrote TeX

>>57723321
Economically moronic person

>>57723926
Money corrupts.

Cliffy B. I don't consider him "more" talented, but he's up there.

>>57718349
it's not in the fucking 90s you fucking nigger he's using fucking XP and he's programming DOOM 3 go fuck yourself you little piece of shit.

>>57718318
except for that Finnish faggot with his hobby kernel....

Chris Sawyer. He wrote Rollercoaster Tycoon 99% in x86 assembly. Even nowadays, the game works flawlessly in modern systems, and the separate AI for every NPC was seen as very inovative at the time.

>>57718463
Terry is brilliant, he is super knowledgeable and intelligent. He just lives in a completely personal world in a way. But he is absolutely brilliant and ironically I think his schizophrenia gave him the motivation to do the effort to build everything from the ground up from bare metal bitwise assembly to his own programming language that he made his OS with. Without that project he would likely just be a very bright wageslave that might never reached his potential. (like most bright people)

>>57718349
It's a good monitor, but they weren't that unheard of. You also had the Mitsubishi/NEC monitors. They didn't use the 16:9 aspect ratio, but had a pixel count above 1080p at around the same time.

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I think he takes the cake.

>>57718548

Remember how story is as important to game as it is to porn? Well, the equivalent of graphics in that analogy is the porn's set : ^ )

But in all seriousness, you're a massive faggot. Carmack never ran id. He's just a tech guy. He wasn't even in id when Doom 4 was worked on. What are you smoking?

>>57722506
But he stole that stuff from Xerox

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>>57724397

Hes just a game designer, but at least he isnt completely autistic.

>>57724742
fuck that triggered me
why is that dude even as successful as he is?

obvious shilling
content mediocre at best
not funny
he looks like a fag
doesn't know shit about tech*

I guess he worked hard for it so he's got that going
*see his video on his data backup plan. he threw tens of thousands of dollars into it and still managed to completely fuck it up

>>57718670

How the fuck is a critic more important than someone who actually creates?

It's kind of funny, but his second greatest contribution (second to modernizing, popularizing and making first person shooters feasible) is due to a mistake. I'm referring to strafe jumping. While the mechanic itself didn't make it far from Quake (few games tried to make something similar work), the speed that it enabled inspired a lot of games to come. When people think of Quake, they think of speed, but without strafe jumping, the game isn't all that fast, really. More importantly, it's not that fun either. I think games like TF2 and Overwatch would be impossible today if people didn't fall in love with Quake and learned the advanced movement mechanics. That entire scene wouldn't exist.

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>>57724824
>But he stole that stuff from Xerox
>stole
First of all, he PAID Xerox to show his Apple team what they were working on. He didn't steal shit. And if you compare Alto's GUI, it's not really close to MacOS. MacOS took some Alto ideas, added way more, and turned it into a modern UI we know today.

>>57724711
>a pixel count

CRTs don't have a "pixel count".

>>57724023

He could've accepted it and immediately donated it to, or started, a foundation that'll actually help humanity progress in a meaningful way. None of this "charity to raise X cancer awareness" shit, tech development.

>>57724940
how do you define the resolution of a CRT then?

>>57724940
They do at a standard operational frequency. Furthermore, they do in any case based on beam stepping. You don't have a static pixel count, but you do have an effective pixel count at a given refresh rate.

>>57724742

Jokes aside, I don't see why Linus gets so much flak around here. I don't agree with everything he says, but I can see where he's coming from and how he tries to account for people who would fall under different use cases than his own situation. He's not afraid to speak out if he doesn't like something about a product, even if they're a sponsor, and he's actively working constantly not only to build his own business, but let other people benefit from that (I.E. helping one of his employees get citizenship, literally driving Luke back home if there's no other convenient transport option a while back)... I'm really trying to figure out what started the hate here.

>>57724940
Ummm yes they do.

>>57718438
I was laughing when he btfo'd the entire CppCon audience during the keynote.

They were visibly confused at ND not using huge amounts of templates and extreme meta-programming.

>>57724953

In simple terms, the size and sharpness of the spot. CRTs don't really have inherently predefined resolutions and switching between them doesn't involve interpolation like it does for LCDs due to their literal, physical pixel grid.

>>57724879
Welcome to the 21's century, when phrases like "we need more women in X field" are more significant than truly creativity, intelligence or being competent in something...

>>57725082

I know, and I'm saying that guy is smart enough to solve the problem of that equation, but not smart enough to then take that 1 million dollaroos and funnel it into a big, giant fuck-you to that mentality.

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>>57718492
Terry Davis misspelled "definitely" in his praises to God.

>>57724602
>thinking darude is a tech genius

Envy. He gets paid to talk about tech and look like he's having fun playing with it. He's made a business out of his hobby, that success serves as a firm reminder to everyone on this board that that life will never be theirs.

>>57718825

I thought so too. It's $40M.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/business-executives/john-d-carmack-net-worth/

>>57718547
yes

>>57718548
>>Blames players when their console Game flops (Rage) and goes "muh engine"


Actually he hated the xbox360 and ps3 because of their limitations.

>>57719668

For the same reason their code is shit.

>>57718177
>mommy knows someone at ibm
>get meeting because kildall fucked around
>we os vendors now
>buy Q-DOS
>resell to ibm at jew like profit margins
>clones
>marketshare goes to shit not UNIX or Macintosh
>"brilliant man in tech"

Microsoft is the worst mistake tech ever had.

>>57718463
Shutup CIA nigger

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>>57718109
Yes.

>>57725009
He gets flack because he is successful at something that the autists on /g/ believe they would do better. I mean, what is /g/ doing more than anything? Judging hardware and software, but of course everyone giving him Shit is too socially awkward to actually create a show like that so they just give Linus grief out of jealousy. He is also handsome and has a cute wife

>>57722476
Was*

>>57722886
Quake*

>>57718109
Edward Kmett.

>>57724871
He's like the technology version of pop science. Normies eat that shit up.

>>57724882
Bunny hopping doesn't exist in either of those titles.

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Holy fucking shit

>>57727197
I have to disagree, that title goes to AMD.

>>57724898
They paid them to see, they copied it for free.

Then Xerox stole it from a project made by students at the Berkeley university.

>>57729697
>He is also handsome and has a cute wife
Maybe, but he has a bunch of greasy fat nerds that he works with on a daily basis.

>>57725009
Pretty sure Dennis gets a lot of hate because he barely speaks any English

>>57730712
golden spiral

>>57727197
t. code monkey who can't recognise business genius if it's staring him right in the face

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>>57718270

>>57718109
Yeah, the guy who took over id Tech from John and made it actually good, as seen in Doom.

>>57725039
Kek link?

>>57718109
Carmack is smart, but he was only really relevant in the era of software 3D rasterizers.

After he popularized BSP trees with Quake, GPUs with poly rendering and then triangle setup and depth culling became a thing, and he just make a few minor innovations with lighting and tiled texture pools.

>>57724838
who this? he bagged a hottie, possibly gold digger

>>57731635
Go back to work, Linus.

>>57730712
Carmack is a nerd and he doesn't hide it or meme it up.
He's proud of his achievements and is self confident as a result

I have deep respect for him and his work

>>57718670
triggered

>>57718278
>gates
>80 billion net worth
>carmack
>40 million net worth

I'd say Carmack is BTFO.

>>57718177
>buys DOS
>renames it MS-DOS
>sells out to IBM
>"""""programmer"""""

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>>57722506

>>57727081

He did at one point say PC gaming was dead and didn't matter.

As much as I respect the guy I can't really forgive him for effectively selling out his fanbase for fucking RAGE.

The entire company basically was rescued with Doom but I really doubt they'll be putting out anymore quality games anytime soon.

They basically had to have a polish company show them how to do it with Wolfenstein.

>>57718109
There is only one number 1 and it's the ZUCK
Prove me wrong
>pro tip: you can't

>>57718177
>sell BASIC for altair before it's been written
>write basic
>start complaining about hobbyists sharing
All he innovated was DRM.

>>57724824
>implying Xerox could have used it to its full potential
>implying Xerox wasn't too focused on muh copiers to build a GUI
I shudder to think what today's computing would look like if Xerox had their way.