/hpg/ - Headphone General

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First for MSR7.

>>57717931
I hate these headphones :(

Anybody received their 598cs? How do they sound what are your impressions?

>>57718039
Don't like it.

Too much bass.

Funny how all the normies on amazon are saying it has no bass.

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>>57718073
There are people who complain about the lack of bass in the M50x, ponder that.

>>57718073
These will be my first quality headphones ever so I'll probably like them even though it may sound shit for an audiophile. But do you think it was a good purchase for 99€ or I would have been better off with a m40x or something else in that price range?

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what are you guys using to power older headphones with crazy impedance like 2000 ohms? I've got an hd414x that runs pretty quiet on everything but a shitty old kenwood receiver that just pisses out emi when i turn it on/off, which freaks out my gpu. is there anything modern that even tries?

>>57718039
598s sound very muffled to me

exactly how much better are the JBL LSR305 than the Rokit 5?

Last time i was talking to someone who said theyre comparable and both good for that price range, with the rokit 5 being front ported and the jbls being rear ported, but if you had the room for the correct setup, to go for the JBLS

with that said there are some good blackfriday/cyber monday deals on the JBLs in the United States however none in Canada

with that said the Rokit 5's are now 50 dollars cheaper than the JBLs since the Rokit 5s actually have a discounted deal here in Canada

basically with the 50 dollar differnce (100 dollar differeence with the pair) should I just go with the Rokit 5s since the JBLs are never gonna go on sale on any site that ships to Canada

>>57718100
Waifu?

>There are people who complain about the lack of bass in the M50x, ponder that.
That's really easy, get a bad fit.
The M50x isn't nearly an extreme basshead headphone. Neither were a lot of early Beats headphones come to think of it.


>>57718533
>port location
Doesn't really matter once you move the thing more than a few inches from the wall. The port is effectively decoupled from the wall then, and placing speakers right to a wall is always kinda lousy, excluding custom soffits.
>LSR305 vs. Rokit 5
305 has the better dispersion by a fair margin, so it wins.
How about some of the Behringer truth models? 2030 and 2031, or whatever they were called.

>>57718073
They want bumpabumpabumpa bass because they enjoy feeling nauseous. That or they're playing it on their ibone in lower-quality mp3 they ripped off of YouTube.

Hifiman HE-400i here.. could honestly not be happier.. it's the best you can get for the money, especially buying used

>>57718550
>no HD25-1 II

>>57718550
>no MDR-CD900ST above 7506

>>57718629
>How about some of the Behringer truth models? 2030 and 2031, or whatever they were called.
first time hearing about these a quick google shows that theyre much larger and more expensive so theyre not really comparable
that is if youre talking about
Behringer Truth B2031A (8.75" Studio Monitor (ea))

>305 has the better dispersion by a fair margin, so it wins

but is it worth a 100 dollar discrepancy

>Budget
around $200 USD, maybe $250

>Location
USA

>Source
Laptop, desktop

>Type of headphone
Full-size

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Comfy; expecting daily, 8+ hours of continuous use

I had m50x's, sold em a year ago. Now I'm thinking of buying them again and using my newfound eq knowledge to fix them into eldergod tier. Am I retarded?

>>57718945
Yes, just get the Sony Mdr-cd900st

>>57718977
EQ'd, are they better than EQ'd porta pros?

>>57718550
what are those cheap sonys?

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CyberMonday is here.

Will the HD 598 get cheaper?

>>57719269
It dropped to like $150 CND on Friday, I bought mine back in July for $125.

Maybe? You should have bought them while they were on sale.

>>57718550
What's the top?

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>>57718629
Looks like Kaede Takagaki.

>>57719227
Looks like MDR-CD900ST

>>57719411
Looks like MDR-7506.

>>57719501
>MDR-CD900ST
wtf they cost over 100£

>>57719647
Yeah not sure what is up with the "ultra poorfag" definition. They are a more colored and more expensive version of the V6/7506. Personally never understood why some people like those a lot.

>>57719666
The V6 is in the pic though, The 900s have a silver ring

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Name a flaw.

>>57719705
Boomy bass

>>57719705
painfull hair loss

>>57719715
EQ

>>57719705
the microphone isn't available for purchase anywhere anymore, but the metal thingie on the left side is still there.

also, price. it used to be €45, now it's €60.

it's worth the €45, not the €60.

>>57719765
>EQ
>having to EQ your headphones
lol kek they are nice for 20$, but thats it.

>>57719819

What other open headphone is better at 60 currencies?

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Just bought the HD 600 and I don't have an amp.
I don't know if I need an amp or DAC, but I might as well get both.
Will the E10K be fine? Amazon says:
>Suitable Headphone Impedance: 16Ω~150Ω
yet the HD600 has an impedance of 300ohms.

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>>57719911
>>having to EQ your headphones
here is my eq for porta pros.

>>57719983

E10k is fine.

>>57719983
Yes it will be fine. Recommended load impedance should only be stated as a minimum as there's no upper limit for it.

>>57719983
it works for me

>>57719983
There's a high gain switch isn't there?

I just got the 598cs and it's only working on my left ear wtf?

>>57720150

>still buying snapheisers

How does it feel getting meme'd?

>>57720150
Connector properly inserted? Tried from multiple devices? Send them back.

>>57720182
They are literally clean out of the box, this is a serious question

>>57720200
Tried from 2 different computers and my phone, same result.

I plug it in the way the box shows, and it feels firm. Nothing changes though

>>57720245
Just sounds like shit tier quality control, you have a defective pair. Out of interest, are they also made in China like other cheap Sennheisers are?

>>57720150
i got mine and they work. luck of the draw I guess

>>57720292
made in china of course

>>57720021
But you a deaf nigger, I have 2 porta pross and horrible boomy bass comapred to X2s, hd600, shp9500 etc.

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>>57720292
>>57720314
Oh God if it really is defective and these assholes don't give a refund I swear

>>57720330
you got it from amazon right? there is usually a period of time like 30 days you can return and get a refund

got my 598 Cs
is there any sound drivers to install or is it plug and play?

hearing some super muted background static with the wire in to my computer, but most everything else seems fine

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>>57720041
>>57720045
>>57720054
>>57720063
Thanks familia.

Pls Help
>Sound signature
Bass would be nice
>Budget
Over or below $50
>Location
US
>Source
To my PC
>Type of headphone
Gayming type, preferably with a boom mic
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Past headphones
Sade Sita, I like them, just the mic is stubby thats why I'm asking for a boom mic

>>57720353
mhm ordered on Black Friday. Went from 250 amerifat bucks to 99 and thought it was a steal. I can't believe this. Imagine paying 250 bucks just to receive a broken piece of shit

>>57718824
I was thinking of the 2030, the smaller one. Now that I look it up again, it isn't that small either.

>but is it worth a 100 dollar discrepancy
Probably not. How much did you say you would be paying?
Used market is your friend.

>>57720385
Shit happens with electronics. Some people buy computers that don't work out of the box because some dingleberry didn't put the processor in properly

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got these today to replace my g430s

how did i do, /g/-chan?

>>57717860
Will I be able to use the 598cs without an amp on my phone?

>>57720360
Your motherboard shit a bed

>>57720428
Yeah, my laptop's audio input is broken somehow and nothing I can 'lock' in. There's something missing inside it seems like since I can move the jack around. It's not the end of the world but I've had it fall out a few times, and what was playing wasn't super appropriate any of those times. It's a higher-end laptop too which pisses me off.
>>57720554
Will these be the new memephones?

You could've paid like $40 more for the open-backs.
>>57720603
Yes, it will just sound kind of shitty at higher volumes.

>>57720554
Can you inform us how your pair works? I refuse to believe mine is defective, maybe I'm just doing something wrong

>>57720554
Pretty meh, the closedback 598s are shitters compared to the openbacks and for closed you should have gone MX40x. The blueball is nice though,

>>57720629
thanks anon, I'm not an audiophile but I can notice clipping and distortion. I'll be sure to equalize and use my preamp to their best until I can upgrade my shitphone

>>57718216
Build quality and comfort is superb. I'm extremely anal about sound quality so what I say might not be worth much to you, to someone who doesn't care about sound quality a lot, these will sound good because the sound signature is quite consumer friendly.

>>57718550
Again, this list doesn't make sense, 7506 and V6 are the same thing and should be in the same tier. Here's how I'd do it:

Elder God: DT250
God: V6, 7506, DT770
Great: COP, M40x
Meme: M50x, etc.

>>57719757
This x 1000. Never liked these. Never will. KSC75 is far superior.

>>57719983
Can't you just plug them into your motherboard directly? Works 99.9% of the time.

>>57720640
The M40x sounds better but the HD598 Cs shits on it comfort-wise. I'd pick the Sennheiser based on comfort alone.

>>57720635
Not him but I just got mine and they feel slightly louder in the left ear. I don't know if this is just a problem with my ears or if it's the headphone itself but I've never had this problem before.

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> Fell for the HD598 Cs meme
Never been so disappointed in my life
Can't even find a proper reaction image to cover how let down I am

Now all the good headphones are full price again or not as cheap as they were two days ago

>>57720819
what's disappointing about them?

>>57718821
the cs900st isn't actually that good

Sup lads, I currently have some AKG K240, love the double band and the semi-openness to them what would be an upgraded form of these?

Best closed headphones for around $150? Videos, gaming, mostly.

>>57720857
They sound like shit for their price

They have this weird folding in the ears that the tips of your ears rub making them very discomforting

The bass is disappointing as all god hell

They're muddy also.

Not him but I just sent mine back, fell for the meme believing in Sennheiser but they did not deliver.

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>>57720629
not in great ol' canada, it was 110$ more.

>>57720635
i havent gotten the chance to try them out yet. im annoyed a bit because i dont own a 6.3 to 3.5mm converter so i could plug it into my pc. looks like the really short cord will have to do


also heres a pic of my g430s, this is after using them for 6 months. logitec is a meme

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Did I just fall for some meme?

>>57720906
why would you get something from the hd 500 series if you wanted bass?

>>57720931
You didn't buy the 598 Cs so no

>>57720938
It's not the fact that the bass isn't there, the bass isn't good. At all.

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>>57720857
No instructions that came with the box, the build does not feel very durable, and the right side of the headphones do not work no matter what device it is plugged into.

Other anons also mention that other headphones do the same job for cheaper but the price going from 250 to 99 baited me

Sure it could be a defective, but I paid 99 bucks and waited all weekend in excitement. I have nothing much going on so when they came and they turned out to be bs It felt like my I had a hole in my heart

>>57720914
Logitech is absolutley a meme, got the G35 back in February and the right side literally snapped off last month

>>57720931
>>57720931
Undoubtedly

The 598cs makes everything sound very metallic and not natural like their open counterpart.

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Good evening m8s, I'm looking to pick these up
>https://www.amazon.com/Technica-AUD-ATHAD500X-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B009S333U4/

Just wondering if it's worth it to throw the extra 30 to get the 700s?

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>FiiO E10 on craigslist
>"Goes for $300+ brand new, $160 obo"
>FiiO E10K is $75 on amazon

Makes me think this is just some no-good nigger that stole this equipment, and doesn't know what the actual value is, because he obviously doesn't know that the E10 was phased out for the E10K

>>57720931
makes my animu waifu sound qt af

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Whelp I fell for the meme

Just ordered M40x for 102€ on amazon.de
Did I fall for the meme? They will probably send them tomorrow morning so I can cancel until then.

Maybe add 30€ more and buy dt770? or just order hm5 pads?

>>57720819
>>57720980
So wait, you haven't actually been able to give them a proper listen yet since they don't work properly? You just got unlucky and received a defective product, man.

Are the 598 Cs supposed to wiggle? The housing is slightly wiggling and I don't like that. It feels like it will snap immediately

>>57721246
I'll be quite honest, they sound horrible for a buck fitty. Why waste your money when you could get a nice pair of AKGs or Beyers for that money.

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should i expect beyerdynamic custom one pros / fostex t40rp to go on sale on amazon tomorrow??
also, how do i decide fucc this is so hard

I'm actually quite satisfied with the 598c.
Maybe it's coming from me who had to use shitty $15 IEMs for the last 6 months after my M50's completely fell apart.

>>57721268
>I'll be quite honest, they sound horrible for a buck fitty

But you just said that only one of the two sides of the headphones works properly, how can you make that judgment? Also they were only $100 on black friday, not $150

>>57721340
I'm not that guy, I'm this guy >>57721231

>>57720635
alright im back with the results, same anon-kun btw

my set sounds awesome, first time with an actual pair of headphones and i love them

to answer your question, my pair sounds fine in both ears. you should either test your hearing with another pair of headphones and go to the doctor if one ear hears better than the other

maybe your pair is defective, you have to decide that for yourself

>>57721313
I'm pleased with the sound but they do feel very cheaply made, I'd be unhappy to pay full price for them.

Is the 598c really trash? isn't the open version of it like $200

>>57721376
The CS is very cheaply made, which is expected due to the fact they are an Amazon exclusive product, that in its self should speak volumes that they are cheap.

>>57721389
Damn right they are fucking cheaply made, thing feels like it would break the moment I drop it
>>57721360
Did it work fine on your first try? Sound quiet at any given moment?

>>57721349
What don't you like about them, then? Or are you just falling into buyer's remorse because of what someone else said about them? $100 for them seems like a good deal to me.

>>57721449
it sounds like shit friendo you can get $20 full sized headphones that sound the same

>>57721449
They didn't fit on my head very well. They sounded extremely metallic in some instances of music, and I'll be honest coming from a 50 dollar pair of AKGs I felt like I was listening to a downgrade.

Just got some koss portapros with some extra cushions for $16 was it a good buy?

>>57721486
Yes

>>57721449
When the 60$ HD518 is superior, its bad!

/brg/ - Buyer's Remorse General

>>57721244
pls respond

>>57721479
>I'll be honest coming from a 50 dollar pair of AKGs I felt like I was listening to a downgrade

That's not exactly out of the ordinary, considering they were still in their break-in period

>>57721507
What are you remorsing on? I'm still remorsing to this day on my $500+ HE-400i v1

>>57721507
the 598CS sounds like shit m8

This is fact. Everyone got ripped off becuase they worse than the open 598s.

Any MassDrop members here?

How's that HifiMan 350 deal? Those good cans?

>>57721535
>closed headphones sound worse than open headphones
What were people expecting? It's not like they're super expensive either.

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>>57721523
What are your reasons for remorsing that pair?

I'm remorsing the meme everyone is discussing, seems everyone got theirs today and are all equally disappointed with the outcome Basically >>57721535

>>57721552
products made for massdrop have shit quality

>>57721555
People payed 200 dollars for the CS prior to the black friday deal.

>>57721523
Im remorsing that I fell for the whole audiomeme. Now Im an nonchalant snob who reveres non-audio lovers as lesser mortals that shall tremble from my treble and linear response, just as linear my response is to them when they tell me Beats-off by Dr. Nigger sound great.

>>57721564
Because senns sound like shit they are muddy pieces of shit

>>57721572
and it got dropped to $100 because no one bought them

>>57721623
Thats because Sennheiser never promoted them

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>>57721564
>What are your reasons for remorsing that pair?
2.5mm detachable plugs, Paid twice as much.

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>>57721564
And soundstage with backplate-less model on the v2.

Beyer DT990 or AKG 702?

Also anyone care to comment on these?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Yenona-Adapter-free-Headphones-Monitoring-Isolation/dp/B01F59T4HU/ref=gbps_tit_m-8_1ed7_d706effe?smid=A1KS1FV2ACL175&pf_rd_p=0944287c-7a19-408e-98ad-cfadaac91ed7&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=161428031&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=7KCZZFVYR753B4R52V4Q

>>57721679
With any high end Beyers you're gonna need an amp.

AKG not so much but helps.

>>57721679
the k7xx are better than the 702s

At what price range of headphones is a amp a necessity?

>>57717860
That poor manlet

>>57721691
Will any reasonably priced dac do the job ok?

>>57721707
I can't see them up for sale anywhere, the two I listed are on sale for a good price currently.

>>57721719
You buy an amp when you cant hear your headphones

>>57721734
The world's fastest manlet

>>57721389
they're no less cheaply made than other snapheiser products such as the HD600

>>57721757
byers have no mids

So I'm a fucking idiot when it comes to electricity, can someone give me a quick summary as to the difference between Beyers with high ohms compared to low ohms?

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>>57721564
And on top of that being told to pay $230 to update to the new model. I got chinked hard by Hifiman.

£100 or less, closed, needs2be comfy. Dont have dac/amp, but good mobo w/ better-than-average on-board audio.

What are my choices?

>>57721564
does anyone have 558's to compare them with?

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>>57721815
Customer Service this much of a scam should be illegal

And I thought all of us getting ripped off by the new memephones was bad

>>57721815
lol get jewed

>>57721816
sony v6

What is going to be the deal of the day for Cyber Monday?

>>57721815
Looks like a scam

>>57721815
sucks mang, I got the $300 v2 last year pretty satisfied myself

>Be someone who always wanted a nice high end pair of cans
>See all the praise Sennheiser gets its practically a Sennheiser circlejerk in the audiophile community
>See these new 598cs headphones up for sale
>Note that the regular 598s are very reputable
>Order them with 1 day free shipping get excitied
>Put them, notice the band is squeezing the ever living dick out of my head and hurting a little bit
>There's a weird folding type of thing in the drivers that is rubbing my ear making everything very uncomfortable
>Constantly spend all day trying to adjust them to fit nicely but in the end I keep getting a headache from wearing them
>The sound is very eh, it's nice on some songs but other with bass it sounds like shit and not very clean.

Meme'd them right back to amazon for my $108, last time I listen to a bunch of fuckin snobs who jerk off a brand

>>57721784
I've read that the trebles are harsh too, definitely leaning towards the AKG 702 at the moment.

>>57721891
last year cyber monday was a blowout

>>57721891
I've heard theres going to be beyers on sale

>>57721679
K702 are vastly superior.

>>57721924
You were decepted by Senn-shills.

>>57721815
Thats why I never buy chink shit, chinks are always looking for a way to get their little pecker inside the us customers anus.

>>57721924
You must have a weird shaped melon head or something, the great comfort is one of the most often mentioned by people about those headphones

>>57721437
works great first try and still working

even pushed the headphones against my ears, still sound fine in both ears

>>57722133
Don't get me wrong, great pads, but I felt like my skull was gonna burst.

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>tfw to intelligent to wear ear fedoras

>>57722223
you can extend it you stupid shit

>>57722256
I did. You act like I played with for 5 minutes or something, they felt like crap and sounded even worse.

>>57721810
im also a noob but since nobody replied, ill do it

high ohms = needs more electricity and WILL be quieter if you dont get an amp

low ohms = will work with standard 3.5 jack

i think you need to buy an amp if you are going to buy headphones with more than 100 ohms

so 300 ohm will be extremely quiet and probably wont work without an amp

>>57721924
NOBODY HAS FUCKING SAID THE 598CS AND 569 ARE GOOD!!! YOU LYING CUNTS.

518, 558 and 598 are great headphones. There are better ones, but the last years blackfriday with 598s for 100$ was crazy.

Also if you didnt know every clsoed phone sound like shit compared to opens.

>>57722279
thanks m8.

For midrange price headphones like 150-300, AKG or Audio-Technica?

>>57722253
>to deaf

Anyone with intelligence and decent play money would appreciate the finer details that has went into audio work in games and classic records that is easily unlocked even by getting a good pair of headphones around 100$ (shp9500, HD518/558).

exactly how much better are the JBL LSR305 than the Rokit 5?

Last time i was talking to someone who said theyre comparable and both good for that price range, with the rokit 5 being front ported and the jbls being rear ported, but if you had the room for the correct setup, to go for the JBLS

with that said there are some good blackfriday/cyber monday deals on the JBLs in the United States however none in Canada

with that said the Rokit 5's are now 50 dollars cheaper than the JBLs since the Rokit 5s actually have a discounted deal here in Canada

basically with the 50 dollar differnce (100 dollar differeence with the pair) should I just go with the Rokit 5s since the JBLs are never gonna go on sale on any site that ships to Canada

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Best headphones for listening to metal?

Why does Head-Fi love to jerk off chinkshit like HifiMan?

>>57722363
beats(tm) by apple(tm)

>>57720765
Thanks anon I guess I'll just wait and see

Have any of you fags actually tried to listen to the 598Cs without your bias from that stupid homemade fr chart literally from Reddit? and a-b'd with a headphone you know for sure the frequency to? I can still cancel mine.

>>57721260
I just opened mine. You mean the way they pivot a little bit? That's just so they fit to the shape of the side of your head.

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>>57722426
Same here, need the answers fast bls :DDD

>>57721734
Rosberg isn't even that much of a manlet among F1 drivers.

>>57722426
It's not just audio, the headphones a very cheaply made and are not durable. I can tell that while wearing, if you move a cup to the side to listen to someone talking to you, the thing could easily snap

Besides that, the thing is normally 250 bucks. You would expect some good audio from that but it's painfully average at best

>>57722426
I compared to them to a pair of 59 dollar AKGs.

They sound worse.

>>57720765
but senpai the dt250s are shit

>>57722364
Chinkfiman stuff is decent and no worse than Snapheiser or Beyersremorse

>>57722426
>>57722442
I got mine in the mail today, and plugged them in literally right this second. Haven't had the chance to listen to them yet, but what do you want to know about them?

So..what is a reputable brand with no faults?

Sony?

>>57722437
That's what I meant thanks for clearing it up.

My other pairs did the same thing but the 598Cs seems to wiggle a bit more which concerned me since it's somewhat pricy and brand new

>>57722499
beats

>>57722499
>So..what is a reputable brand with no faults?
No such thing. Most large and major manufacturers are good.

>>57720554

I got them for my daily commute. They are pretty nice, noise isolation is decent and they are comfy af.

>>57722501
Yeah, the 598 Cs just have a bit of a different design compared to the open 598s. I think it's just for comfort, maybe even makes them a bit more durable by being able to move a bit more freely like that.

>>57722426
Something wrong with that reddit graph? There's an HD 600 measurement done on the same coupler by the same user to give you some perspective.

Red pill me on why the 598CS are cheap garbage?

>>57722583
They're not, some people are just mad that they don't sound as good as a $200 pair of headphones when they only paid $100 for them.

>>57722496
Fuck it, everyone says their shit. I'm just canceling.

>>57722638
Wouldn't it more fair to call them $150 considering thats what their sitting price is now post-black friay

What's the M50X of Amps?

>>57722583
From my unboxing experience today
Pros
+Very comfortable, ear pads feel amazing
+Decent noise isolation
Cons
-No manual
-Does not feel durable, seems likely to break the moment you even slightly fuck up
-Audio is good but you expect much more for 250 bucks
>>57722638
If their normal price is $250 then you should expect $250 quality

>>57722496
Well listen to them and tell us how they sound nigga

>>57722642
Have you even read or watched any actual reviews for them?

>>57722648
I don't think so, now that they're sitting at $150 there are probably better options, especially since you could just step up a bit and get a $200 pair of headphones instead.

>>57722674
That is their MSRP

>>57719705
None really, they could use more treble maybe.
>>57719757
I have very long hair and have never had my hair painfully pulled out ar any length.
At most, I'll lose one strand, and that's only very rarely.

>>57722674
>If their normal price is $250 then you should expect $250 quality

this is fucking retarded

>>57722669
schiit stacks

>>57718039
arriving monday for me, i am getting hype

>>57722669
Tube amps

>>57722683
If they think their product is worth 250 bucks it damn well isn't

>>57717860
any earbuds on sale for black friday/cyber monday?

Bose IE2, Shure, Klipsch etc.

>>57717860
Holy shit, I got my Beyer COP's last week
I had read shit about them needing insane burn in and Jesus fuck is it true. When I first got them I legit thought I had a fake pair. Muddy as all fuark.
Left them running from last Friday night to today, Monday morning, and god damn I love them so far. Better than my 770's if I get the bass port in the right position. Highs dont make me want to forcefully remove my eardrums either like the 770's do.

Put the 770 PRO pads on them, and damn what the fuck theyre so comfy. Mids came up a little too which is nice. 770 highs are back, but I'll try fixing it with cheesecloth or something similar.

They look god tier as well.

>>57722686
How is it retarded? If I decide to buy then now they cost 230€ the 99€ deal was for black Friday we bought them expecting higher end quality at a bargain price

exactly how much better are the JBL LSR305 than the Rokit 5?

Last time i was talking to someone who said theyre comparable and both good for that price range, with the rokit 5 being front ported and the jbls being rear ported, but if you had the room for the correct setup, to go for the JBLS

with that said there are some good blackfriday/cyber monday deals on the JBLs in the United States however none in Canada

with that said the Rokit 5's are now 50 dollars cheaper than the JBLs since the Rokit 5s actually have a discounted deal here in Canada

basically with the 50 dollar differnce (100 dollar differeence with the pair) should I just go with the Rokit 5s since the JBLs are never gonna go on sale on any site that ships to Canada

Whats the difference between an IEM and an earbud?

Price?

oh
HM5 VELOURS ARE 16 USD ON AMAZON RIGHT NOW BOYZ
GET EM IF YOU NEED VELOURS

>>57722710
Mine will arrive this week also but let us know what you think in the next thread. As usual /g/ makes me feel buyers remorse without even listening to them

>>57722747
All HM5 pads are on sale

>>57722677
I was playing with my cat since he got excited when he saw me switching/plugging in the headphone cables, but I'm listening to them now, I'll let you know.

>>57722724
get get $5 phillips earbuds

>>57722727
>needing insane burn in and Jesus fuck is it true.
if that's your way of explaining how getting used to another sound signature feels like, sure. there's absolutely nothing changing in the headphones though.

>>57722744
form factor. earbud doesn't block the canal or sit in there. it's hanging right outside of the ear canal providing no meaningful isolation and often very low fidelity sound. in-ears are inserted on the canal entrance or inside the ear canal and can offer extremely high sound quality and lots of isolation. most of them end up being very bassy.

>>57722801
>I was playing with my cat
LONDON?

ANYONE KNOW OF ANY GOOD BLACK FRIDAY CYBER MONDAY STEALS ON EARBUDS

>>57722789
O shit youre right
Wish I could order from amazon :(
Are there any other sites with them cheaper atm?
MP4nation is still ~24 USD

>>57722521
sure buddy fast forward to 1:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmLVW2UmuOw

>>57722739
you already got an answer. being front ported or rear ported doesn't matter as long as you don't load the port by blocking it. place the loudspeaker one port diameter off the surface(a wall for example) and that's it. lsr has better dispersion and its response is much more flat on and off axis. it's the better loudspeaker out of the two.

>>57722801
Do it and post a pic of your kitty also

>>57722801
post a pic of your pussy

>>57722499
Philiphs SHP9500, and the NEW philips gibson X2, bang for buck best headphones in their categories, best build quality and best overall sound.

Anyone got any recs for Entry Level IEMs?

>>57722825
>if that's your way of explaining how getting used to another sound signature feels like, sure. there's absolutely nothing changing in the headphones though.
lolno
I only listened for like 3 minutes when I got them first. Hardly enough for me to adapt for shit. I researched previously so I was aware that they may need burn in. Left em running on a foam block Friday morning. 72 hours straight. No listening in between either.

Immediately heard the difference this morning. The difference is so insane that it'd be far too much to chalk up to placebo.
I've done the same with other headphones and heard virtually no difference so i'm fairly skeptical going into shit anyway.

Nothing changed with my hearing either. I've been listening to my Pro 80's and nothing has changed with them.

Burn in is the diaphragm and any adhesives used loosening with movement. Its pretty fuckin logical.
It's just hardly proven because nobody gives enough of a fuck about audiophile autism.

/hpg/'s loving father figure Tyll is convinced, but w/e
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/testing-audibility-break-effects#h1ZqC0EC14zqQ50S.97

>>57723030
They have cancer pads that turn your ears black

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>ctrl+f 598
>26 results found

Well now that 598 Cs is confirmed a meme what's the next thing to look out for

>>57723037
What pricerange would you define as 'entry level'?
Just fill out a purchase advice form
ez

Bottlehead Amps are having a sale for you Memeheiser HD650 / HD6XX owners on Cyber Monday only.

>>57723129
<100

>Budget
50-100 usd, flexible
>Location
Murrica

>Source
Phone and maybe PC
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Uhh dunno
>Comfort level
High pls, I have medium size ear canal(?)
>Sound signature
I like warm or bright
>Past headphones
Owned the Meme50s from Audio-technica, MDR-V6 and currently own AKG 240s

I upgraded my headphones to a better pair and they are messing with my brain, in a good way. I hear what I didn't hear before and SO MANY songs are unbalanced with their stereo effects. I thought my pair was broken but putting everything to mono made it clear it wan't.

>>57722499
dt770/880/990's are all pretty solid

>>57723278
if no mids are solid

at the moment I'm feeling like they sound a bit muddy. much wider range, clearer sound, and extremely comfy compared to my last pair, the creative fatal1ty headset.

what's the rate on burn in? the sound is clear but feels muted right now.
personally I'm hearing an ambient static sound, like when you switch on a guitar amp, in my computer with em plugged in, but not my phone, so not sure if I need new drivers?

>>57722499
>Sony
jesus christ god no

flawless headphone brands dont exist
audio is so subjective that its pointless to even try

>>57722801
this was my take >>57723317

forgot to mention they're the 598Cs .

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>>57722677
>>57722934
>>57722988
So far they sound swell for a $100 pair of closed back headphones. I don't really have any complaints. They're really quite comfortable, and I could definitely wear them for hours, or even all day. I'm NEET and am on my PC ~16 hours a day sometimes, so that's important to me. There are probably better choices in the $150-$200 range, but I don't regret my purchase having paid only $100 for them, especially since it's an upgrade over the headphones with the broken cable I had before. These 598 Cs having a detachable cable was a big deal to me.

Listening to a lossless rip of Emancipator - Safe in the Steep Cliffs, and plugged into an X-Fi Titanium sound card by the way. There were at least a couple people posting here before about how they were going to plug theirs directly into their motherboards, I don't really think they would sound as good that way.

>>57723317
>what's the rate on burn in?

here's a tl;dr post I found: http://www.head-fi.org/t/599924/breaking-in-headphones-the-final-verdict

>personally I'm hearing an ambient static sound, like when you switch on a guitar amp, in my computer with em plugged in

I'm not getting that with mine. You probably have some electromagnetic interference. Are they plugged directly into your motherboard?

>>57723337
You forgot also the pic of kitty m8

>>57723077
an audible shift in response after normal usage is something that would make me send those back as they would most certainly be defective. it's not happening like that, the response isn't changing because you "stressed" them for a short while.

>burn in is the diaphragm and any adhesives used loosening with movement. Its pretty fuckin logical.
it really is not. not in this scale and with these materials, not how the headphone drivers work. adhesive coming off/loosening would have pretty bad consequences.

>It's just hardly proven because nobody gives enough of a fuck about audiophile autism.
many do care. most who talk about "burn in" don't give a crap about data however and are content with their experience.

tyll didn't prove shit there, that article and its issues in methodology have been discussed here many times over. and even if the difference there was because of actual changes in driver "burning in", the differences are negligible, small enough to be completely masked by manufacturing tolerances.

my favorite part of these "burn in" experiences is how they all turn out being changes for the better. i think you just drastically underestimate the psychoacoustic part.

>>57723317
>what's the rate on burn in?
bout 3.5

go learn to use parametric equalizer. muted sound is in the response which could just alter right now.

>>57722583
Buy 518's, HM5 pads and them either 3D print or model out of wood some backs
Tune them properly to how you like the sound.
EZ and probably a better end result

>>57723369
Holy shit, why do you have a picture of my cat?

>>57723369
do you have to burn in the cat

>>57723369
I confused you with the anon above sorry very cute kitty! Thanks for the review these will be my first decent headphones so I'll probably not even notice the nitpicking most of the guys are doing here so I'll just try to enjoy them when I receive them. But if you have more experience with other headphones for example for 99€ I would have been better of with a m40x or some other model?

>>57723386
>i think you just drastically underestimate the psychoacoustic part.

>psychoacoustic

AKA "changes you imagine which are in your head and not real"

>>57718371
Schiit

>Budget: $20-$30 (€ )
>Location: Germany
>Source: 1/4" or with 3.5mm convertor from Stereo Receiver
>Type of headphone: big over the ear type
>Open or closed: open? We have a baby so if she cries it would be good to hear a bit more
>Comfort level: most important
>Sound signature: neutral
>Past headphones: lots of gaming ones.

Im after a set of headphones for my wife. She watches TV in the loungeroom but when the babies asleep she has to have volume low. I have some gaming headphones, but they arent overly comfortable for laying on the couch.

Im using a receiver, with a 3.5mm from 1/4" socket adapter.

Sound quality isnt to important. As long as things sound like they should i guess. But comfort is probably the most importamt thing.

And a long cable. If not i can always buy an extension.

Probably buy from.ebay or amazon.. Or from aliexpress.

I finally got 600s, and I now understand everything.

>>57723611
Superlux 662 EVO
Comes with velour pads so it'll be comfy, and they're cheap on Ali/Gearbest, and probably also on Thomann

>>57723618
>t shill

>>57723369
>Are they plugged directly into your motherboard?

plugged into laptop headphone Jack so I guess so. the static is imperceptible unless I'm not listening to anything, it's like an ambient ON noise you get with audio equipment

I'm fairly satisfied but what other options in the 150 range you think are good? might go compare these with some at best buy, since even my pos pair lasted 5 years

>>57723386
just a program to alter it? I'll check it out.

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I love headphones with this type of double band thingy on the top, any $100-150 that are good with this?

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I bought the 598's hoping they'd be alright for both home and portable use. So far they sound like shit on my phone and alright on my PC hooked up to a UX1 I had lying around since I don't have a proper DAC.
Not sure if I'm liking this, would I be better off getting a pair of 558's for home use and something else for on the go listening? The 558's are still $80 at Best Buy.

>>57723278
The only ones that are even at an acceptable listening level are the 990s, the other are bombastic treble cannons

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>>57723648
I look into them. Thanks

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>>57723436
a-are you sure he belongs to you?

>>57723457
it helps to give him some kitty treats beforehand, he's a bit chubby after all

>>57723461
With closed back headphones in the 99€ price range, I doubt you'll be disappointed with these. I've seen similar complaints about the M40x having muddy sound and being too bass heavy. If you're not satisfied with the sound of these, then you'll probably need to start considering some much more expensive higher-end headphones or some better hardware.

I think my brother has a pair of those M40x, though. Maybe I could compare them if anyone wants, but I'm not exactly sure if that's what model they are.

>I'm fairly satisfied but what other options in the 150 range you think are good?

Closed-back wise? I don't know, most likely something other than Sennheiser, though.

>>57723702
Yes.

The 598cs are a meme

Return them now while you can

>>57723691
Fidelio x2

>>57723738
pretty sure x2s are more than 150

>>57723691
AKG K612
Or K7XX
or pretty much any AKG

>>57723748
7xx sounds better but they have shitter build

>>57723744
I got them on sale for 150

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Why is "too bassy" a negative on reviews when the intention for the headphone is for bassheads anyways?

>>57723877
examples?

>>57723618
Congrats Senn, I bought a pair for my wife's son as well.

>>57723894
AKG K142

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>>57718898
>Comfy; expecting daily, 8+ hours of continuous use
>Closed
buy these literally right now with the coupon code, before some retarded here tells you some retarded shit and convinces you otherwise because i know what the hell i'm talking about okay bitch?
https://slickdeals net/f/9435191-beyerdynamic-dt-770-16-ohm-dynamic-closed-headphones-85-free-shipping

>>57722363
HD25
>pls make friends

>>57723930
>$129.99

That's funny, they're actually $118 on amazon right now for the gray ones, 80 ohms

And $130 for the 250 ohm ones. Are either of those a good deal?

>>57723986
Sennheiser has fooled me for the last time, any other suggestions?

If you lads are lookin to cop some Beyers I'd wait till tomorrow for Cyber Monday deals

>>57722475
lol no

>>57724057
lol yes

>>57724035
hd25 has literally not changed for 2 decades, they're the sennheisers that aren't sennheisers. trust me. check out innerfidelity's review.

if not you can get these too. http://www.adorama com/bddt135080.html?sdtid=9424983&emailprice=t&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905

fast response is important for metal and these have it. this is the best price youll ever get on them too.

>>57724093
lol no, dt250 is hard to beat for closed headphones
>>57724099
>fast response
o im laffin

>>57724028
seems like it's the lowest price they've ever been on amazon. i just read that the 16 ohm version uses a different driver so skip those.

i'd buy the dt770 for the current price. 80ohm and 250ohm are both okay, you want an amp for the 250ohm. comfy, closed, decent tonal balance, no ringing, durable. checks all those boxes.

>>57724111
lol yes dt250s are shit
in fact byers are shit cans

>>57724146
i don't like most beyers, dt250 is the only beyer i like kiddo

it's pretty flat with rolled off but present non-fatiguing treble

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>>57724111
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT1350.pdf

Anyone have any experience with Grados?

how are they? Do they get really uncomfortable after a while?

>>57724181
>Do they get really uncomfortable after a while?
they're not the worst.
grados are a headphone you have to try on to decide whether you like the sound or not. no other way around it.

>Budget
$100

>Location
USA

>Source
PC

>Type of headphone
Full size

>Open or closed

>Comfort level
As high as possible, will use for prolonged periods

>Sound signature
don't care

Preferably all black

>>57724198
>open or closed
either

>>57724177
what does that have to do with my post

but fuck, you make me wanna fap now

>>57724198
>>57724207
also budget is approximate

>>57724198
see
>>57724133

>Budget
$200-$500, flexible
>Source
AUX
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Sound signature
Neutral

I need 2 player headphones full sized, open, connecting to an AUX splitter.

I also need 3 commentator/streamer headphones. I'm guessing headsets are shit, so I should get a clip mic?

I was thinking Sennheiser HD 201 Lightweight Over-Ear Binaural Headphones on Amazon?

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>>57724214
>what is a square wave
>what is an impulse response
come on man.

>>57724192
>>57724181
from what i've conducted.

Grado sound is very colored and warm, much like koss porta pro headphones which are mids emphasized and give some vibrant/crumblin feel to drums and trumpets. but of course at a much higher level which meets with the pricetag

>>57724243
look closer at what you posted

>>57724261
>i'll tell him he's wrong without explaining why
>i can't name any alternatives
pfffffffffffffft disregarded

>>57724133
What benefit is there from the 80 ohm one to the 250 ohm one?

If I were to pick up the 250 ohm one and pair it up with this Chinese piece of shit: https://www.amazon.com/SMSL-Audio-M3-Powered-Decoder/dp/B019Y5TR6O
would there be a noticeable difference in quality?

>>57724287
ok kid

>>57724316
if you already have that dac/amp get the 250's.
extra resistance increases damping factor which """sharpens""" the sound but requires extra power.

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>>57724322
kys dumbposter

>>57724198
Sennheiser HD 558 for open, Brainwavz HM5 for closed

Anyone familiar with Ultrasone? I know their one of the major big ones but I was thinking of hopping on these for a kind of midrangey headphone

https://www.amazon.com/Ultrasone-HFI-580-Professional-Closed-back-Headphones/dp/B00101UHS8/

>>57724381
they're not*

>>57724354
I see, well I don't own it, but I may be able to pick something up tomorrow. I just saw that the FiiO E10K wouldn't be enough to drive it, but that one can no problem. Although, it's not as portable, but I'm a NEET piece of shit anyway.

>>57724375
558s are muddy af

>>57724381
i think they lower priced headphones are strictly for professional, analytical purposes. which means a flat frequency response and high accuracy from left to right which could sound very boring compared to more musically balanced headphones

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What's the opposite of muddy?

>>57724445
not your moms vagina

Used 558's for 45 bucks, good cop?

>>57723691
K7XX or K612

>>57724488
if they're in good condition and you plan to do that foam mod to them, probably

>>57724431
You could just get the 80s and not bother with an amp. Up to you.
>I'm a NEET piece of shit anyway
Good luck with that

>Budget
<$200 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
PC, interested in DAC/AMP
>Type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
ATH Meme50s, HD 598

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>>57717860
2016 champion <3

>>57724243
>what is a square wave
>what is an impulse response
Probably not things you know.

A square wave's Fourier series can be can be defined as the summation of

>(-1)^n sin[(2n+1) * 2pi * f] / (2n+1)

Starting from n=0.

The square wave is convolved with the response of the headphone, and this can be represented in the frequency or time domain. The square wave interacts with the headphone at a discrete frequency and its odd numbered multiples.

The impulse response is the time domain version of the frequency response. They contain identical information, even though they are defined with different variables.
But then, I think most people don't know what frequency response is.

>>57724354
>damping factor
This stupid idea will never die.

>>5772387
People complain about things being bass heavy when they set the bass boost to mid level or maxed out.
Yes, I think it shows a very significant oversight.

>>57723894
JH Angie and Layla, with bass boost active.

>>57724431
>FiiO E10K wouldn't be enough to drive it
You don't know that. Do you really know how loudly you listen?

What does V shaped sound mean?

>>57724099
Speed is given in the frequency response.

>>57724243
Yeah what are they? Would be interested to hear your explanation.

>>57724674
means theres more bass and treble than mids

>>57724674
Just another way to describe the shape of the frequency response. It means that the bass and treble are louder in amplitude compared to midrange. In other words recessed midrange is the same thing as V-shape. It's a very coarse way to describe a sound signature.

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>>57724181
I got these SR80. They are about 5 or 6 years old, thats why the sponge looks like that. Build quality sucks but I'm ok with it because they are so easy to fix. The sound like amazing in my opinion. My Bose QC2(I got them free) died Friday so I used my Grados(open ear in public?!?!?) Since I live in NYC as I stoon on the train platform two people hovered around me to try to make out the name of the headphones. Most people around here just know about beats. I will see the occasional AKG user. I'm going to replace the sponge with the sennheiser yellow sponge.

>>57724671
>>FiiO E10K wouldn't be enough to drive it
>You don't know that. Do you really know how loudly you listen?

No, I don't know that, but on the specs for the E10K, it says "Suitable Headphone Impedance: 16-150 ohms", while that SMSL M3 can handle 16-600.

>>57724756
Forgot to mention that the E10K's sample rate is up to 96KHz/24Bit, while the M3 can handle up to 192KHz/24Bit

>>57724744
I'm looking at the SR60e's, how is using them in terms of long term listening? I sit at home at my desk a lot.

best poorfag iems? im not talkin 50-100 im talking extreme poorfag 1-30

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>>57724591
Made my day to see that happen. Another bum.

>>57724756
It's one of the dumbest specs so often used for headphone amps. There is no upper limit to load impedance. It's a misleading and useless spec. Minimum recommended load impedance is understandable.

>>57724802
I know it's >headfi but this is a useful thread for being lookin for cheap IEMs

http://www.head-fi.org/t/478568/multi-iem-review-352-iems-compared-pump-audio-earphones-added-04-03-16-p-1106

Hope you got some time to read through the section of your choice.

>>57724435
Doesn't the foam tape mod fix that?

>>57724822
Well it doesn't say that's the limit, just what's "suitable". I don't know what problems could arise going over that, I'm not too knowledgeable about it. It just seems to be that the E10K has portability more in mind.

30 minute take on the memeheisers:

If you bought them for $99, they're worth it.
Biggest complaint is that piece in the cups that is touching my ears. I'll probably end up returning them for that reason only, big i also have big ears

>>57724890
>Biggest complaint is that piece in the cups that is touching my ears

Pretty much why I returned them. They're not for big eared people, I can definitely say that for certain.

>>57724445
tizzy

>>57724904
No idea why they thought that was a good design choice

>>57724876
558 isn't muddy idk wtf he's talking about

>>57724756
That's not a good spec. It doesn't refer to anything like a stability issue into certain loads, nothing like some weirdness that can happen with some tube amplifiers.

It's a really half assed and poor way to imply sensitivty and voltage limits.

>>57724877
>I don't know what problems could arise going over that
No problems. You could generalize that most high impedance headphones have somewhat low voltage sensitivity in common. This isn't exclusive to high impedance models and not strictly tied to their impedance but a trait many of them share. The least sensitive headphones on the market are actually around 50 Ohms and despite that insensitive enough that I would recommend something else than E10K to drive them. The only problem that could arise when you use high impedance headphones with E10K is lack of volume. It has quite a bit of voltage swing at the output though and I haven't heard anyone complain about the lack of output power on those while driving lower sensitivity models like HD 600 or K702, both close to each other in terms of sensitivity and both used by multiple anons here with E10K.

>>57724948
They definitely can described as muddy if your output impedance is high.

>>57724890
>>57724904
That part doesn't touch my ears at all. You guys must have some big ears.

Sup lads, wanna try and expand my collection by getting an open back pair. I've owned closed back and semi-open and wanna venture into open to see what they're like. (I know the whole sound leakage isn't for everyone) Currently hung up on 2 with a similar price range, the Audiotechnica 500x and the Grado SR60e

Any input on either of these?

>>57724989
I also have a wide head so they're not exactly made for people like me which I fully accept that the average person does not have my size dome.

>>57724989
maybe you've just got cute little ears :3

>>57724671
>>57724671
>Probably not things you know.
way to parrot information that any budding engineer should know. and way to not understand how driver speed affects impulse and sq. wave.

>>57724671
>This stupid idea will never die.
>what is an RLC circuit
>what is a complex impedance
okaaaaaaaay

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>>57725004
y-you too

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Postin again. I'm looking for some comfy closed back headphones for general computer usage. I listen to mostly death metal but would be alright with anything that sounds reasonable and isn't too bassy. Budget of ~$140 NZ dollarydoos, which is about 100 freedom dollars. Comfy factor is very important to me.

>>57724984
>>57724985
I see, well thank you for the input. I guess the most that could happen is that I'd need to turn the knob a bit further on the E10K.

>>57724679
>Speed is given in the frequency response.
wrong. frequency response is measured by a sweep, which tests the headphone's impedance.

>How we test frequency response: To perform this test we drive the headphones with a series of 200 tones at the same voltage and of ever increasing frequency. We then measure the output at each frequency through the ears of the highly-specialized (and pricey!) Head Acoustics microphone. After that we apply an audio correction curve that removes the head-related transfer function and accurately produces the data for display.

combined with the phase response gives you the full complex impedance. but this doesn't give you any information about how fast the driver itself can physically move, for that you refer to impulse response and square waves. the fr. plots you see in tests aren't measured

>>57724679
>Yeah what are they? Would be interested to hear your explanation.
>>57724671 this anon has the technical definitions, but the implications i explain above.

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Anyone own either one?

Not sure which one to pull the trigger on. Since one is cheaper and they both have everything i need, it comes down to sound and quality.

Meelec M6 Pro: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015S2I6A0/ref=psdc_12097478011_t1_B019RDSEV2

GranVela A8: https://www.amazon.com/A8-Headphones-Noise-isolating-Earphones-Comfort-Fit/dp/B019RDSEV2

>>57724890
ive been running classical on them today and holy shit ive honestly lost myself with the sound blocking and all those little nuances i never had with my gaymer sets. sucks about your ears theyre really comfy for me.

think they just needed a little break in, they seem to be a lot better now, muddyness has faded.
still have that weird open mic noise when I plug em right into my laptop headphone jack and nothing is playing.

if my computer has separate headphone and mic jack does the inboard mic not work? think these were just meant to go into handheld phones

Ebay currently has a coupon for 15$ off $75 or more

What sick phones can I get with this?

Looking for something portable, comfy, preferably V shaped to play through my phone while out and about.

>>57724800
Very comfortable, the cords are thick for when you roll your chair over it. I don't think you will find a better head phone for the price.

>>57720914
I'm also in Canada. The open-backs were about $144 while the closed-backs were $99.
>>57723251
Same. I had a big problem with broken earbuds growing up, so imbalance really freaks me out.

>>57725044
Damping factor is not equivalent to the RLC damping term.

>measured by a sweep
Tyll uses MLS, not sine sweep. They give you the impulse response either way. You do recall what an impulse response is, right?
Actually examining driver movement is given by looking at the driver motion itself visually, and not by looking at a time/frequency measurement with a microphone.

>which tests the headphone's impedance.
You get the impedance from comparing voltage drop differences with a known impedance in line. You don't do that with the reference impedance because that screws up the transfer function measurement.

>>57725242
The audio quality is okay, but i can't see myself paying for the ear discomfort. They feel worse on my ears than my 3 year old m50xs, but theyre better on my head. I'll probably just buy another pair of m50s for the portableness and some open backs for at-home

>>57725404
>Tyll uses MLS, not sine sweep.
you're right. old headroom used a sine sweep though, which is where the quote was taken from.

>Damping factor is not equivalent to the RLC damping term.
you have to explain this. as i understand, electrical damping is based on the headphone's RLC model

>>57725404
>You get the impedance from comparing voltage drop differences with a known impedance in line. You don't do that with the reference impedance because that screws up the transfer function measurement.
that sounds right. i was confusing |Z| with the frequency response

>>57725141
fr defines speed by showing how high the response extends. square waves aren't worth a thing if we have fr. they are just a limited way of viewing parts of it.

and the way I understand it, the slope of the IR/leading edge of the square wave tells you how fast the driver can move.

>>57725659
>fr defines speed by showing how high the response extends.
right, given it was measured using pulse train/convolution and not a sweep

Yo why does my line out from my motherboard sound so much worse than the front port? I thought it was supposed to be the other way around.

Do they amp front audio ports and not the rear?

Essential basshead headphones?

>>57725695
>Line outputs usually present a source impedance of from 100 to 600 ohms.
taken from wiki. in short they aren't designed to be used with headphones.