/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

>>57686210
any new pics? it seems like you've been working on the same shit for months

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>mfw waiting for my new keyboard in the mail

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>>57686245
WHAT KEYBOARD

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Painfully long wait for my Beamspring and my Model FSSK internals.

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>>57686244
Not really related to keyboards, but I've been working on designing a new case for my rig.
Currently making a phone-charging-stand/figurine-stand/cable-organizer/pen-holder type of thing for the standing desk.

3D printer should be here tomorrow. I should order some stuff from alie and see about milling keyboard PCBs. Shit's going to get fun from here on.

Hence, I haven't bothered taking any new pictures, there's not much to show yet, except for some CAD files.

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http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114052&cm_re=mechanical_keyboard-_-23-114-052-_-Product

Does 60$ (CAD) seem like a good price for this memeboard?

>>57686629
>razer
No

>>57686629
Refurbished and razer
might as well just get a Chinese keyboard from amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015MPQQ0A?psc=1

>tfw hasu Bluetooth controller and a battery would cost like a new keyboard

>>57686210
Thinking about getting someone a wireless keyboard as a gift.
>budget
~$50USD
>location
USA
>switch type
probably brown or clear switches
>layout
standard US
>form factor
something compact, needs 5 rows
>backlight
preferred, not necessary
>what I'm currently looking at
amazon /dp/B01H6DNIHU

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New keys.

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>>57686770

i'm hungry

>>57686728
if you know how to solder and program then you can get both for super cheap
it's a matter of choices, do you want to put in the time yourself or have someone else do it for you

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>>57686629
>>57686649
>>57686702
http://www.ncix.com/detail/corsair-gaming-strafe-mechanical-gaming-e6-111291.htm

What about this one? I get to choose which key type.

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>>57686629
>>57687153
incredibly irritating LEDs

>>57686770
actually makes me angry

>>57687153
no

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>>57687153
>I get to choose which key type
What a privilege

>>57687217
I just noticed how retardly think that solder is.

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>>57687166
Looks like I've got just the keyboard for you

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>>57687258
You like it thicc?

>>57687276
>dumb small form factor keyboard
>huge case
>costar stabilizers
Jesus. Just burn it.

>>57687153
It's the keyboard I'm using right now. The LEDs are a bit irritating but it's nonetheless a good keyboard

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>>57687341
looks like someone is jealous

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>>57687341
here (you) go

>>57687395
>>57687412
If it's not a fullsize it's a kids toy.

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>>57687429
fuck numpads

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>>57687429
Why would I use a keyboard with a numpad when I don't need one?

>>57687443
to be fair the SSK does have a numpad over the left side of the alphas. Its not dedicated, but it still works

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>>57687443

numpads are simply the bees knees, anon

>Budget
Preferably under 80$

>Location (continent at least)
Brazil

>Form factor
100%

>Backlight
Yes

I'd like to start using mechanical keyboards, but have no idea of what I should buy. I would like to buy from China. Should I ask on /csg/ instead?

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>>57687429
I see you like proper man-sized keyboards

>>57687443
>>57687483
Why do you insist on making a physical keyboard look like something on a smartphone or tablet screen.

>>57687501
>Brazil
>Backlight
>80$
Not gonna happen, but maybe you can find something nice here
http://informatica.mercadolivre.com.br/teclados/

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>>57687514
Because my smartphone has one of the best displays on the market.

>>57687554
Must be a tablet baby thing I guess.

>>57687485
pretty much all non fullsize keyboards have this

>>57687545
>I would like to buy from China

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>>57687568
I wish.

Doing CAD on a tablet with a pen seems like it'd be comfy as shit.

>>57687594
>I would like to buy from China
Not gonna happen either

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>>57687568
Why would someone carry around a full size keyboard if they are only gonna type some scientific review papers on their tablet. Seem like its a huge wast of space and it just makes you look silly

>>57687640
Why would you be carrying a keyboard around in the first place?
Oh your picture explains it... Hipstershit / late 90s 2000s kids.

>>57686256
what keyboard is that i want to know thank you very much

>>57687678
get with the times gramps. no one wants to carry around a six pound laptop. I'm perfectly fine with a tablet and a v60 with matias qc switches

>>57687694
its a noppoo choc mini.
why do you want to thank me?

>>57687715
I swear that generation is fucked. How is that remotely convenient? Is it a fashion statement? Do you have special designer keyboard bags too?

>>57687737
Its convenient because I can carry everything with me on one device. The onscreen keyboard sucks for long typing secession so that is why a small and compact mechanical keyboard is perfect.

>Do you have special designer keyboard bags too?
Do you think everyone with a mechanical keyboard is a hipster? I just carry it around in a laptop bag that my dad gave me.

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>>57687733
because im looking for a new keyboard and these are the keyboards i currently have and that keyboard looks very nice

whats the best keyboard I can get with some programmable keys + leds while not going too much toward ricer

>>57687884
You don't care about cost? Just buy a custom kit and build your own, and you can program the firmware yourself.

>>57687884
Ducky One backlit version.
There is a One on massdrop for 90 bucks, but it has no back light

>>57687884
pok3r

>>57687799
Everyone with those dumb small form factor keyboards is a hipster by definition.

>>57687950
big deal every laptop has a small form factor keyboard, and my v60 is the perfect length to match my tablet.
Why should I have to carry around a 17 inch desktop replacement when a medium sized tablet is fine?

>>57687992
You can use the laptop's keyboard? Crazy idea I know.

>>57688034
So whats the difference from using a tablet and a small keyboard. You can walk into my office and see dozens of people with ipads and small wireless keyboard. The only difference is that mine is quieter and happens to be mechanical. My supervisor uses an android tablet and a bluetooth keyboard, and she is almost twice my age at 58. Technology progress anon, and bitching about the good old days just makes you look like a fag.

>>57688126
>bluetooth keyboards
Stop

>Technology progress anon
By using tech from the 80s. Ya don't think you understand what progress means.

>>57688158
Whether you like it or not that is how life is progressing. You may dislike it, but there is nothing you can do about it.

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it's not mechanical but it is a meme so I thought I'd ask here
Is this G13 worth a damn? It looks super comfy and I could play and masturbate at the same time, if I can macro key shortcuts or to software functions it'd be god tier, when I used MIDI buttonpads for macros I loved it
$68, or is there better options? Can I mouse with it? Or are these things just a meme?

>>57688217
I can make fun of it. It's not like mobile computers are a new thing. Only recently did you hipsters find a "need" for these small keyboards.

>>57688249
>Only recently did you hipsters find a "need" for these small keyboards.
Small keyboards have existed since the 80s anon. These 60% keyboards are nothing new. The old ii c keyboards were also 60% and those came out in 1984

now >>57688242 that thing looks retarded

>>57688299
They weren't carried around. They were used at terminals and small environments.

Out of curiosity, what are my options if i go wireless?

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anyone know what brand/type of keyboard this is?

keys felt really clicky

>>57688309
You are kind of right. They were designed to be small enough that you could take it from your job to your home and continue working. Not like a laptop since you had to be constantly plugged in to work, and the monitor couldn't be carried around. They were super expensive and not many people bought them, but they were still a success that they eventually turned them into laptops.

>>57688382
can you take pic of the back?

>>57688408
I'm talking about laptops in the 90s.
In the 80s you had those "mobile" computer but weren't really mobile.

>>57688299
But so did my launchpad and I loved it
I just want to know if I can mouse with it, if there's any immediate issues I need to know about these things
It looks a lot more comfy than trying to smash my wrist into a keyboard

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>>57688349

:^)

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>>57688412
Not right now. Oh well

>>57687217
I regret buying this keyboard

>>57688428
My dad was a systems analyst back in the 80s, so growing up I was exposed to all this weird computer technology. There was definitely a fad for small computers and keyboards before laptops were really a thing, like those mobile, but not really computers. So saying that this is something new is completely wrong. 60% keyboards have been around since before I was, and maybe even before you were born.

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>>57688432
>>57688299
And this one looks even comfier
I don't care if I look like a razer retard with my first LED, if this input is better than my left hand on a keyboard I want it

>>57688536
This also has a mechanical variant for $100 more but I'm sure you guys would rather save money

>>57688526
I said they were 80s tech already. Their use as mobile devices is new.

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>>57688603
>Their use as mobile devices is new
It is 80s tech and its use as a mobile device isn't new.
Take a look at pic related. It isn't a computer, but you use it to dial up to the mainframe and you can access it from home

>>57688760
see
>>57688428
I addressed this.

>>57688788
In the 80s you could use that thing at your local diner to work while eating your breakfast, and my dad's friend used to do that. So how is that different from today where people use tablets and small keyboards at their local cafe.

You see what I'm saying is that nothing has really changed in the past 30 years, its just that the technology has progressed and things look different, but they still serve the same exact function.

Does a 75% iso keyboard exist? I'm tempted to try 60% but I think I'll miss Fkeys and PrintScn too much

>Budget
$50-$100
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
I'll leave this up to you
>Layout
qwerty
>Form factor
80%
>Backlight
yes
>Previous/current keyboards
no-name chink shit

>>57688890
You NEEDED to have that keyboard.

A laptop doesn't need an external keyboard. I never knew of anyone in the 90s that carried a laptop and a keyboard.

I'm not a tablet baby so tablets are already piece of shit hardware to me.

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>>57688900
you mean something like this. Its a bit old, but if you don't mind uses 90s keyboards then go for it

>>57688921
how about tesoro excalibur spectrum g7sFl
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U3LM0TU/
it's cheap

>>57688921
If you want TKL then cooler master has a whole slew of options in that budget.

>>57688955
Yeah that would be perfect but I want cherry switches for keycaps

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>>57689001
then how about the noppoo choc mini.
There is now a group buy that is selling keycap sets for it, but it ends in 4 days so you have to be quick.

>>57688922
Now you just sound like a shitposter.
Maybe this is the safe space for you >>>/g/tpg

>>57689119
>safe space
That's your generation's word.

>>57689027
Doesn't come in ISO, I just saw this though

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/mechanical-keyboard/wasd-v2-88-key-iso-custom-mechanical-keyboard.html

Ideally I'd want it in white so I'll keep looking for now

>>57689141
that's not 75%. If you want TKL then that opens up a whole bunch of options.

>>57689163
Oh I'm retarded, I do want 75% I'm just sleepy, I might have to go for a TKL though if it's not obtainable

>>57689132
I'm not a millennial since I was born before 85, but it really does seem that you belong here >>>/g/tpg

I'm just trying to be helpful that's all

>>57689210
Because I like fullsize boards you're directing me to the thinkpad general?

>born before 85
Somehow I have my doubts. Seeing as all those anime pics are all of anime well into the late 2000s and later.

>>57689290
calm down nigger

no-one gives a shit about your fetish for wasted space

>>57689290
Where did you get anime from? I haven't posted a single anime picture, and I'm directing you to the thinkpad general because you don't like ultrabooks, convertibles, and smart devices.

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where can i get dental bands instead of o-rings if i dont have braces

$120
US
Something linear and heavier than cherry reds, clones are fine, I've heard gaterons are decent
qwerty
Full size
Backlight doesn't matter
Currently using a corsair k90

>>57689290
>itoddlers, tablet babies, touchshit

yup that looks like /tpg/ material to me

>>57689388
o-rings are like a dollar on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120Pcs-Silicone-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners-White-For-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-/271793918306?hash=item3f482e1162:g:mYYAAOSwBahU9ex3

>>57689368
Ya nobody ever posts anime figures or manga next to their keyboards in mkg.. Nope never.
>>57689413
You seem offended tablet baby.

>>57689454
Well you got be confused with the wrong person. Personally I don't like anime, which is ironic since this is an anime image board. But you seem to have all these incorrect misconceptions about the people on here. Are you sure you aren't a millennial because you are quick to judge and use terrible memes like one

>>57689532
Don't know what conclusion you expect me to come to. A keyboard with no numpad, no f keys, sometimes no number row, and random modifiers everywhere resembles the kind of keyboard you get on a tablet.

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Currently considering Ducky Channel One TKL (White) + Miami Keycaps

Are there any other TKL's with thin besels? Should I get a black KB instead? So many doubts

>>57689639
miami will look better on a white kb

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>>57688922
>>57689290
>>57689454
>>57689563

You know what. I think you are too young to be a millennial. With that sentence structure and youtube vocabulary, it just sounded so familiar. Then it just hit me, but you sound exactly like my 13 year old nephew. You must be 17 maybe even 18 years old. It all makes sense now.
Anyway I've got some work to do, so why don't you go play lol or whatever it is that's popular right now. But before I leave I will leave you with this keyboard I found posted here. I think you will love it.

>>57689735
White it is, what's a good place to get braided cables too?

>>57689759
keyclack has them.

>>57689739
What the fuck is "youtube vocabulary"?

>>57687568
how much of a hipster are you? You hate tablets, which is a very hipster thing to do, but you also hate hipsters as well and call them kids toys. Is there some kind of level to being a hipster with each one hating the level bellow it and becoming more contrarian the higher you go up. Like seriously how can someone get soo triggered by a simple tablet?

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Why don't you guys use mechanical mice to compliment your mechanical keyboards

>>57690158
but anon I am

>>57690150
What kind of hipster doesn't have some kind of apple tablet?

>>57690158
Pretty much all mice have mechanical switches in them m8.

If I want a TKL board with cherry greens what options do I have?
The ducky one has them but its out of stock

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>>57690197
Optical sensors are mechanical?

>>57690226
The buttons, you dunce.

>>57690220
Cooler master
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C2MBG2U/ref=twister_B01IILZQN8?th=1

>>57690241
then its not a mechanical mouse.

I just realized my ducky shine 5 uk layout brown numpad + button isn't working.

Should I return it?

>>57690266
Reading comprehension nigga.
>have mechanical switches in them

>>57690226
>>57690266
Optical mice are generally mechanical. Lasers I believe are digital signals.

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>>57690288
You seem to be confused. Her let me help you.
Why don't you guys use mechanical mice to compliment your mechanical keyboards

>>57690308
>Optical mice are generally mechanical
no optical mice aren't mechanical. That being said why would anon still use mechanical mouse. I'll just quote wikipedia

Unlike mechanical mice, whose tracking mechanisms can become clogged with lint, optical mice have no moving parts (besides buttons and scroll wheels); therefore, they do not require maintenance other than removing debris that might collect under the light emitter. However, they generally cannot track on glossy and transparent surfaces, including some mouse-pads, causing the cursor to drift unpredictably during operation. Mice with less image-processing power also have problems tracking fast movement, whereas some high-quality mice can track faster than 2 m/s.

Some models of laser mouse can track on glossy and transparent surfaces, and have a much higher sensitivity.

As of 2006 mechanical mice had lower average power requirements than their optical counterparts; the power used by mice is relatively small, and only an important consideration when the power is derived from batteries, with their limited capacity.

Optical models outperform mechanical mice on uneven, slick, soft, sticky, or loose surfaces, and generally in mobile situations lacking mouse pads. Because optical mice render movement based on an image which the LED (or infrared diode) illuminates, use with multicolored mouse pads may result in unreliable performance; however, laser mice do not suffer these problems and will track on such surfaces.

i want a tada68 reeeeeeeee

>>57690362
You do know that in track balls you can often find optical sensors? They're analog.

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>>57690384
and I want a kishsaver model F, but I don't go on /mkg/ and shitpost with /r9k/ memes

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>>57690400
then those aren't mechanical

What's the build quality like for qisan magicforce? I have a low budget and would prefer something that will last.

>>57690412
good for you my dude

I'm new to the market after my corsair died should I go for the Anne Pro or Pok3r RGB?

>>57690445
What defines mechanical then?

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what do you think about this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/49-Key-IBM-Model-M-Keyboard-SDL-to-USB-Soarers-Converter-Remapping-Macros-/301402443363

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Should I buy this?

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>>57690968

>>57690459
There's a reason they call it the Tragicforce

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>>57690968
why not buy this one instead?

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>>57691086
>e key is on the thumbcluster

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>>57691126
So you want a keyboard like this then?

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>>57691262
Almost.

>>57691289
where do you rest your wrists?

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>>57691340

you lay your wrist flat down over the keys

then you take the other half of the keyboard and put it on top of your wrist

and you have a wrist sandwich.

>>57691340
On your desk or something. You shouldn't be putting any pressure on your wrist while you're actually typing. That's just inviting CTS even faster.

>>57691126
>most used key apart from space is in easy access
>all other most used keys are in homerow
>7k words without even lifting a finger
I see nothing wrong with the malt layout. I made ergodox firmware for it specifically.

First time buying a mechanical keyboard, is this one any good for entry level?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816015

Anyone here use the OG mac keyboard to USB adapter from geekhack? Might get one and go full autist on this NUC hackintosh build within a mac plus case.

Mechanical keyboards are fucking useless for +90% of the people who actually type. Why? Because an overwhelming majority of people bottom out their keys when typing.


Enjoy your expensive sound generating devices.

>>57692297
and 90% of people don't touch-type. what's your point?
Do you think i could program some generic rubberdome keyboard to have the layout i want?

>>57692297
>mechanical keyboards are louder
Not necessarily. Matias quiet click, topres (especially silent variants), non clicky MX with o-rings or some other dampener are all quieter than a regular rubber dome board.

>>57688382
Looks like a model m knockoff

>>57689739
You know this community is changing and growing. People who are 18 today are a completely different generation, thinking completely differently. With a different vocabulary than adding a -fag suffix for everything, and the language is also changing.

myself I think it's time to move on and let them, instead.

Hows the build quality on the noppoo choc mini? Case, keycaps?

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Wtf this shit is hella ugly!!!

Also
>AA batteries
>Micro USB

I hate pfu now

>>57694261
Micro usb>mini usb, just saiyan.

>>57694415
Micro USB is garbage. I've never had a single micro USB device that didn't develop connection issues within a month.

>>57694487
Micro is rated for more connect/disconnects than mini. I have a mini cable that has spotty connection too. But then anecdotes are separate from specs.

>>57694501
You're missing a key word in there:
Micro socket is rated for more connections. The cable side is basically designed to fail.

>>57694516
Clearly everyone should be using USB-B :^)

>>57694528
Type-C or Lightning master race.

>>57694597
>I love cocks so much!

Mini usb is the best. Very sturdy and so are the cables

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I want to buy this keyboard
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=911
but I would like to change the layout and swap caps for symbols and stressed letters

The layout I want has shift < z x c ... (13 keys)on the bottom row (italian)
I found that some us keyboards have shift \ z x c ... (13)
but this one has a longer shift ad miss the \ (12 keys)
will I be able to do the same thing? or the shift takes only one switch?

>>57695067
The shift uses one switch. What you're looking for is an ISO layout keyboard, they have the smaller left shift with a key next to it.

>>57695085
i see thanks

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>>57686210

I just spent $170 on XDA Milestone.

Guess it is ramen noodles next month.

At least this board is finally gonna look dank as fuck.

>>57695345
what board?

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>>57688242

I got one dirt cheap on prime day.

It is okay. The membrane keys don't feel terrible like some boards.

The screen is the neatest part. I ended up using it more for the display than the keyboard. Couldn't be fucked to make layouts for every new game.

Besides, Honey Select only needs the mouse to play, so you can fap left handed.

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>>57695359

leeku's Compact SQ. A compact version of the 1800 layout with RGB underlighting and single color switch leds.

Last I heard there was a few left so you could contact him on Geek Hack and ask. This was months ago though, so probably gone by now though.

He did a similar GB last month for one with an aluminum case but full 1800 layout. I think the Compact SQ looks cooler though.

Is there anywhere I can just buy a 65% case by itself, or am I gonna have to bite the bullet and buy an RS68/Tada68/etc just to harvest the case from?

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>>57696707
you could make one yourself.

>>57696843
I'd have to do it out of wood then since the only tool I have capable of doing it is a router. Not sure how well that'd go.

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>>57696917
Probably be better this here.

I'd imagine that going fine enough, only thing that could be a bit difficult would be the screw-mount standoffs, but that doesn't seem all too difficult either.

1) Budget
Around $100

2) Location
US

3) Preffered switch type
Would like browns but not a huge deal if they aren't

4) Layout
Qwerty

5) Form factor
Has to be full sized

6) Backlight
Don't care as long as it isn't annoying

7) Previous/current keyboard
Some shitty HP wireless from like 2009

Any recs? I would like something with a longer cable and a USB port on the board would be a plus.

Is a CM Storm XT for €65 (down from 95) a good deal/purchase? I kind of dont want to buy yet another keyboard, but the Poker 2 is a bit cumbersome for work. No nordic layout and I do actually need a numpad + didn't enjoy using it for web dev stuff.

Currently testing with a numpad on the left, but meh, feels like I could just as well get another full size board, like I have at home.

Hey, are there any decent TKL keyboards with media controls?

>>57698080
Tomoko has some bound to Fn + (Media Key)

>>57698128
No not that. I mean dedicated media keys, like the Das 4 Pro has, but in TKL form.

>>57690905
like the preronic but uglier

Which should I get and why:
Gateron PBT: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1651
Ducky PBT: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=858
IMSTO PBT: http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=109
Geekkeys PBT: http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-white-blank-thick-pbt-full-keyset/
I am going to build a NerD 108 with the aluminum case so I need a lot of keycaps, any other suggestions?

>>57698156
the point of a tkl is to be compact, so adding a bunch of extra keys doesn't work. The closest I could find was a CM Quickfire TK compact

>>57698253
>CM Quickfire TK compact
This doesn't have media keys, I don't think you know what media keys are. Hint: http://ww4.sinaimg.cn/large/54b7b013gw1eha5mhva7mj22o0200b2a.jpg

Just picked up the XMIT hall effect keyboard off massdrop. Got the 87 key acrylic version, with the extra springs and keycaps. Anyone else got it?

>Budget
$40-$70
>Location (continent at least)
Florida
>Preferred switch type
MX blue, no exception
>Layout
Qwerty?
>Form factor
Full size
>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K70, MX blue switches

Thank you my friends

>>57698244
>NerD
I hope you have plenty of patience. Some people have been waiting two years for theirs.
I like cherry profile so go with the geekkeys one

>>57698156
A modern 1800 board.

Same size as tkl, but with full numpad. You can mess with firmware to turn numpad into dedicated media keypad.

>>57698272
i'm really interested in the switches for a gaming keyboard but I want to wait for the reviews
>>57698293
I think that's mostly for the assembled keyboards
if you just get parts it can be as little as 1-2 months
i'd prefer him to build it but i can't wait that long

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>>57698271
I know what media keys are. I'm just saying you won't find any dedicated ones on a TKL. The best you could do is the FN + (Key). At least cooler master and filco have them labeled on their keycaps so it makes it a bit easier.

>>57698244
Last I checked both feng (geekkeys) and imsto were being unresponsive. I'd avoid it for now at least. The ducky caps are OEM profile while the gaterons are cherry profile (just as thick as the others too).

Get the gaterons in other words.

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>>57698309
It might be too much work for him. He already has trouble pressing two keys at once, so recommending him to mess with the firmware is definitely out of his league.
Though it is a great idea and I've done something similar on my full size keyboard

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>tfw reading /mkg/ just to get my daily fix of aggravation when I spot /fa/-tier gimped keyboards with colored keycaps

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>>57698422
Well then, I've got something special just for you!

>>57698367
I was planning on ordering from feng but this doesn't look good.
https://twitter.com/geekkeys_keycap
I'll probably go Gateron then.

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>>57698444

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>>57698422
>yfw multicolored keycap sets have been a thing since before you were born

>>57698461
At least that has a reasonable number of keys, no retarded LEDs and only 1 rather mellow color apart from gray/white/black (the only acceptable keyboard colors).

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>>57698461
He could argue that blue and grey was a standard color pallet since old IBM keyboards did the same thing too. But then all the old Honewell keyboards had some pretty funky colors

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>>57698422

>>57698513
>>57698461
The existence of past ugly keyboards doesn't justify new ones.

>>57697202
I did standoffs with super glue and sanded heads of acrylic m5-screws and a bit of rubber rings. He'll do just fine.

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9/10 look in my book.

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>>57698525
the only problem is that honeywell keyboards are legendary for their absolutely godly build quality. No other keyboard can compare with them, and they were the industry standard. You may think they were ugly, but everyone (Apple, IBM, Dell, etc.) was copying them.

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>>57698488
How about this then?

So how are browns to type on? I currently have reds which are alright but I hate them for typing, but i'm getting a new keyboard and have the choice between reds or browns (no clear)

I have a switch tester but it's really hard to tell pressing just one key down. Anyone who has used both reds and browns have any opinions? I hear they feel "grindy"

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>>57698565
You are correct, but not with that layout.

>>57698584
Get gateron ones, no grinding.

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>>57698583
They just don't make sexy keycaps like they used too anymore.

>>57698584
Gaterons have much less of a gritty feeling
much like Topre

>>57698612
At least the OPD had a few group buys for the color scheme. I'm typing on the SA retros right now actually.

>>57698315
Well, after I get mine in February, I'll probably talk about it here, so keep an eye out

>>57698599
>>57698623
Why exert additional effort just to get different colors?
It provides ZERO functionality.

>>57698643
it look pretty kek

>>57698643
Because it really isn't all that hard. It is just plastic

>>57698643
Some people like nice things. That or they're in different key profiles, thicknesses, molding quality, etc.

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>>57698623
The problem is that the build quality isn't as good. SP is definitely better then the stuff you see today, but they can't compare to thick tripleshots

>>57698658
>it look pretty
>>>/fa/

>>57698689
>not compatible with backlighting

>>57698717
>backlighting
What for?

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>>57698689
The old honeywells are in a league of their own for sure.

The devlin K-series is the same height profile as SA but considerably thicker. Whenever they put out a sculpted profile set (+ergodox addon) I'll be picking it up.

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So what's /g/s opinion on this thing? It looks ugly as fuck, but it also looks pretty great for typing and customizability

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>>57698643
>It provides ZERO functionality.
That is wrong. Back then keyboard had no standard layouts so coming up with different colors helped you identify where everything was in relationship to each other. That is why all the old vintage keyboards had funky colors for their keycaps. This trend continues today because companies have set up a reputation for using certain colors on their keycaps, it has become more of a brand image. Just look at Dolch Pac for Christs sake. They've been around since the 80s and they still use the same two tone color scheme.

>>57698737
>What for?
>>57698658

>>57698767
Just get an ergodox/10.

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>>57698784
Whats this? Different people on /g/ have different opinions!!! wow that blew my mind!

>>57698784
pretty sure you can still use a backlight and it will work just fine

>>57698801

I'm not very fond of the thumb pad. I suppose that's something that can be fixed, but I have a lot more money than I have time (and common sense)

>>57698836
Yea it's not optimal, but then this board isn't coming out tomorrow. >>57691289

>>57698818
will season 2 blow my mind?
>>57698830
it might not have room for led

>>57698854
most LEDs are surface mounted so that isn't an issue

>>57698818
Some people on /g/ are just wrong.

>>57698846

Still has the thumb problem (actually looks worse, but maybe I'm misunderstanding the image?), but apart from that it looks very very sexy. Ergodoxes are fully programmable right? I sadly haven't got my PhD in xkb yet so I prefer to program functionality directly

>>57698901
>Ergodoxes are fully programmable right?
Yes. And the point of the other board is that everything is fully adjustable, including the position of the thumb cluster.

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>>57698888
And some people are autistic if they get triggered by the colors of keycaps on old computers from the 70s.

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>>57698918
my favorite color scheme is the new realforce one
i like the high-contrast two tone

>>57698912

I think ideally I'd want ergodox with a custom thumb board. Might still go with the butterfly, it's hideous and hideously expensive, but considering I earn all my money on a keyboard I think I can afford it and then get an ergodox if I need even more customizability.

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>>57698939
better image

https://www.amazon.com/Glorious-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-Minimalist/dp/B01D8YNJH0
Is this thing any good? It meets my requirements but I'm not sure about the removable switches

>>57698951
Why would you get a keyboardio if you can have an ergodox and what is the thumb problem you are talking about?

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>>57698939
>high-contrast
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Shit posting aside the old Honeywell terminals had some gorgeous color schemes. Pic related is my favorite by far.

>>57698918
Pretty sure the original anon was talking about the rainbow shit of today's key caps.

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>>57698976
The problems is that the thumb cluster being flat means you move your thumb sideways to press the keys, rather than down.

I don't find it to be that big of a deal honestly, but I'd still like to eventually replace it with this >>57691289

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>>57698985
You meant RGB lighting? That is pretty gaudy looking, but having some blue or different colors for the sub legends on the keycaps is perfectly fine.

>>57698985
Any colors other than uniform black or gray or beige are /fa/-tier.

>>57699016
No the key caps. Like that Miami shit that gets shilled here.

>>57698976

because it's more economic for me to waste money than time. By thumb problem I just mean that I think keyboardio has a better thumb design, but I haven't tried either so it's just conjecture

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>>57699025
Do my white keycaps trigger you? Or if I posted a model M with white keycaps you would have been fine with that because its old.

>>57698975
not bad for a gaming keyboard
would like the technology in a korean custom

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>>57699039
So you can't stand the color pink? How old are you anon that the color pink gets you angry, but blue for boys is fine.

>Budget
100 USD
>Location (continent at least)
Italy
>Preferred switch type
I'd prefer blue red or brown
>Layout
IT if possible, but I just need it to be QWERTY
>Form factor
don't care, smaller is better
>Backlight
don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
this would be my first mech

>>57699133
It's shit.
>>buy muh vaporwave
It's still shit. And the company that makes the keycaps is shit.

>>57699155
if you want an Italian layout then this is the only place I know where to get them
http://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?sr=&path=mechanical+keyboards&lan=Italian&ss=de&rtv=100

>>57699188
then scrap the italian layout because fuck that shit no one sells them
I basically just want a list of decent models and then I'll kill myself looking for a layout I can use

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>>57699167
Touch a never there anon. Sorry, but I want my keycaps to have proper build quality from reliable sources that have been around since the 60s.

Do you also get triggered when people buy luxury cars from manufacturers that are older then you?

>>57699133
>>57699252
No. I do not understand why time and money is spent on something that's 100% completely useless, like specially colored keys.

>>57699252
>proper build quality
>maimi set
Choose one.

>>57699238
g80s are made in Italian layouts and you could find them used for cheap.

>>57699238

Why do you bother with mechanical keyboards if you haven't even bothered to learn touch typing?
It's like getting a 1000$ guitar when you can't play a chord

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>>57699280
>time and money
except it costs the same and doesn't take longer. and again see >>57698781. Most of these manufacturing houses already have the tooling and materials for those colors, so switching it to something that you arbitrarily like would be just be weird. Why should they change their branding just to match your autism

>>57699042
The upper 2 keys of the thumb cluster on the ergodox are hard to reach if it is in a flat position. But if you have it in a position where it is angled a bit i find no problems with it. Just don't rest your fingers on the homerow all the time or set rarely used keys there.
>>57699042
I would really recommend trying an ergodox. If you have no time the ergodox ez makes sense.

>>57699330
The currency "$" goes before the value, kiddo.

>>57699330
>IT if possible, but I just need it to be QWERTY

>>57699358
Thousands of man hours are spent alone on discussing colorful key caps here and elsewhere.

>>57699281
>Its shit, unless they make something I like then its great.
What kind of two year old logic is that? Let me guess you also participate in all those /v/ style amd/intel/apple wars on here.

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>>57699412
>paper thin pbt
>quality

Kill yourself tablet baby.

>>57699389
They made those decisions over 30 years ago. Why should they spend another 1000s of man hours ordering the plastics just to make black keycaps. Now that is autism. If you can't stand colors like white and blue then maybe you have a problem.

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>>57699435
>Buying chink shit

>>57699363
cool

>>57699386
>need it to be qwerty

That's my point though, you should be able to type on a keyboard with any layout as long as you can identify the home row.
Maybe you should get TNWMLC to force good habits?

>>57699464
Thousands of /fa/ggots make the decision TODAY to discuss "keycap sets" and organize group buys for fancy color schemes, made TODAY, not 30 years ago.

>>57699477
Another reason to hate colored keycaps.

>>57699484
IBM, Dolch, Sony, etc. have been around for much longer then you. You may disagree with their choice of colors, but its pretty autistic to get triggered by decisions made decades ago.

>>57689739
things like this really make me upset. why do i come to this board? why do i think i'll find anybody with any sense?

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>>57699496
>most keycaps are made in china
>all the good ones have special snowflake colors

WHY can't there be a decent set of keycaps that don't look like they were made by hipster

>>57699592
See Filco, Realforce, or HHKB.

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>>57699595
Filco has some shitty keycaps that wear off easily, and Topres are the epitome of hipster switches.
Again there are no good options out there it is all hipster shit.

>>57699632
>Fullzise keyboards
>hipster
No.

Also nothing wrong with ABS caps.

>>57699532
Appealing to authority is an argumentative fallacy, and you're completely avoiding the issue at hand.
There are ZERO rational arguments for researching, organizing group buys, and manufacturing colorful key caps. They do not provide any functional benefits. It is a waste of time and energy.

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>>57699595
Topre keycaps are only about 1.1mm in thickness though.

>>57699689
>It is a waste of time and energy
Considering the fact that people are willing to pay money for them, it certainly isn't.

>>57699716
Realforce caps are thicker than Tai-Hao.

>>57699689
The cold war is over, the bourgeois capitalist pigs won comrade.

>>57699655
What are you talking about? I never said that full sized keyboards are hipster. No seriously where did you get that from? Besides I want good quality keycaps. My rubber dome keyboard from 1991 has PBT keycaps and they look brand new, but it became mushy to type on. I got another rubber dome, but the ABS keycaps developed this nasty shine and texture to them after a year. I can't keep buying new keycaps every year, my PBT ones outlasted the rubber domes. So I just went and bought a mechanical keyboard and some PBT keycaps with the hope of it lasting me a long time, but the PBT keycaps began to fade away and develop a nasty shine to them after a couple of years.

I just want some good keycaps. I wish I could use the ones of my old rubberdome, but its the 90s and nothing had a standard back then.

>>57699689
The problem here is that if you want to get vintage cherry doubleshots you HAVE to buy them through a group buy. I don't like it and would love to buy some nice keycaps, but what can you do about it

>>57699794
>The cold war is over, the bourgeois capitalist pigs won comrade.
I want to live in a utilitarian society that maximized function and completely disregards all unnecessary form.

>>57699816
>What are you talking about? I never said that full sized keyboards are hipster.
Those "hipster companies" you mentioned mainly make fullsize. Minus HHKB.

ABS caps are just preference. PBT wear out too. Why most the old IBMs on ebay look like shit.

>>57699918
I have a full size keyboard, but Topres are hipster switches, its not the size of the keyboard. The PBT keycaps on my old rubber dome are seriously thick which is probably why it lasted for so long.

>>57699977
>Topres are hipster switches
Cherry too mainstream now?

>>57700015
>$200 rubberdomes somehow not hipster.
I spent 80 bucks on my mechanical keyboard including the set of PBT keycaps, and even then that was way too much.
Seriously I feel for this stupid meme, and anyone who considers spending $200+ on a keyboard is a hipster

>>57700080
Ya fuck me and spending money on a tool you'll use for 1000s of hours.

>rubberdomes
Here we go...

>>57700080
Linus Torvalds write masterful code on a standard Corsair mechanical keyboard, without any speshul keycaps.

>>57700106
>Hipster arguments
oh boy here we go.
Please tell me on how superior topres are and why everyone who doesn't use one is a pleb.
I should have just bought a new membrane sheet instead of spending all this time and money on a big hipster meme.

>>57700121
and Martin wrote a cultural masterpiece on his mechanical keyboard with custom key caps that he spent hundreds of dollars on.

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>>57700195
>Everything I don't like is hipster and/or a meme

>>57700265
you said that colored keycaps were a hipster meme.

>>57700310
They are. I also don't like them.

>>57700231
>Martin
Which Martin?

>>57700361
It was just a joke. I don't find game of thrones to be particularly interesting, and once someone made fun of his model m and he went on an autistic rant on why it was superior.

Ever noticed that angry posters are always the ones hating topre?

Meanwhile, we are just too happy with our keyboards to get mad over what other people like.

Does anybody make a mechanical switch numpad? I can't seem to find any online that aren't crappy, I was thinking of tracking one down if they make it with mx switches so I can use extra keycaps I get

>>57700512
Why not get a full-sized keyboard instead?

>>57700512
Realforce.

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>>57700439
I'm not angry I just find it funny that you guys come up with such weird justifications. Like this one guy starting ranting on how Japanese technology is superior to cherry shit. He could have worded it better and said how the capacitive spring in topres allows you to change the actuation distance, which is pretty cool, but he sounded like an autistic weeb. Or there was that other guy that got supper defensive when someone suggested to get a topre clone from Korean (I think it was agk or something). I don't get how someone could get so riled up over the existence of clone switches.

>>57700512
Leopold and Keycool make separate numpads with cherry switches.

>>57700572
>an autistic weeb.
Where do you think you are?

>>57700595
no need to get angry. Obviously not every topre user is like that. I mean I don't consider myself or the majority of people on this site to be autistic weebs, but there are better ways to talk about topres without the whole superior Japanese tech stance. You didn't use that argument which automatically makes you better.

>>57700659
You're doubting glorious Nippon technology?

>>57700729
the problem is that Japan has been slaking recently. I mean they had a huge lead over the rest of the world, and now everyone has caught up and began to surpass them. Take a look at Korean tech companies, or how about the fact that the Japaneses car makers somehow let Americans catch up to them. I think it was their arrogance that led to that, and it wasn't until their falling stock prices and debt problems did they realize that they need to step up their game.

>>57700809
Japan and America are still are the highest quality you can get when it comes to anything on a circuit board.

>>57700839
I think its kind of funny that Toyota makes Japanese exclusive cars in America, then ships back to Japan.

>>57700839
>>57700892
Wait they are also building a plant in Indonesia, so I guess that's better then shipping them over the Pacific Ocean. Its still a shame that Toyota is no longer made in Japan

>>57694207
Please respond

>>57701020
>>57701020
here you go!
I even gave you two (You) for asking nicely

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>>57701020
If you want one, then get the one with PBT/POM key caps. You lose out on a backlight, but the key cap construction is so much better. As for the case, its just a standard plastic case that you'd find on any modern keyboard. Nothing to talk about, but its not flimsy if that is what you are wondering.

>>57686210

I bought a chink gateron black keyboard. Magic something, all white with LED light shows. Not really good for gaming though, and I always misspell words on it and it's really loud. I like the gateron blacks, but not the keyboard itself. What are some actual good gaming keyboards that aren't memes, high performance, and feel nice to use?

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>>57701804
>high performance
you already meme'd yourself

what the hell is a "high perfomance" keyboard supposed to do? Have turbines to increase your typing speed while keeping the sweat off your hands so they don't slip during those intense gaming sessions?

>>57690676
mechanical is not synonymous with analog. you can have a mechanical switch with a digital output. go read something.

>>57701804
>What are some actual good gaming keyboards that aren't memes
gaming keyboards is a meme

>>57701804
Get a Corsair© keyboard with Cherry© MX Speed™ switches

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>>57701804
>aren't memes, high performance,
that right there is an oxymoron
If you want some cheap and solid keyboards, then Rosewill has some cherry keyboards for 60 bucks now on sale
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S5E4KH2/ref=twister_B00UMZ2R2W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

>>57701874
>analog to digital
>mechanical
No

>budget
~$100-$150
>location
USA
>switch type
doesn't matter
>layout
standard US
>form factor
60%
>backlight
not preferred
>ones i'm look at right now
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1283

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400w

I can't stand programming with laptop keyboards so I thought about carrying a small keyboard with me. Can anyone recommend me the most portable blue switch keyboard you can think of?

>Budget
might be asking for christmas so 40-70 would be preferred
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
blue
>Form factor
tenkeyless or smaller, portability is important
>Backlight
no
>Previous/current keyboards
rosewill full brown switches

>>57702574
>40-70
the only one I can think off is this, it also has bluetooth:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=62&size=60%25&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off

>>57701299
Thank you

>>57702709
thanks

Can heavier keys mess up your wrists? Stallman wrote in his blog that happened to him...


I really like the feeling of MX Clears, too...

>>57703023
Unless you have pussy-ass fingers, no.

Bad posture will fuck your wrists up though.

https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-Storm-QuickFire-Rapid/dp/B007VDKLLM/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1480196658&sr=8-8&keywords=mechanical+keyboard

Can someone suggest something similar looking but wireless?

What does this general think of the CM Novatouch?
Does it have the same meme magic as regular Topres?

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Looking for a KB that is NOT coolermaster with their bad firmware, dying backlights and idiotic cord placement

>budget
No more than 150USD
>loc
Burgerland
>switches
Greens, clears or blacks, in that order
>layout
Ansi
>size
80% w/ tenkey
>LEDs
Anything goes

I use an HP keyboard with media keys as secondaries on the F-keys

Do you recommend a keycap remover or do you just use credit cards or rulers?

>>57703756
Its discontinued so good luck finding one.

>>57703791
Cherry MX Board 3.0

>>57703795
but is it good?

>>57703791
Also would be OK with non-cherry switches if they aren't pieces of shit with no weight to them

>>57703791
Ducky One , Leopold, and KBParadise all make keyboards the meet your requirements.
Toy can find them at
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/