/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>57607840
>tfw my 6 yrs old seagate just won't give up.

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Is there a difference between these two drives besides the price?

noctua heatsink or h100i?

>>57607921
Essentially the same

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Gonna take my time and wait until January to get the CPU/GPU as the prices will hopefully drop drastically. Really excited, as my current PC is ancient 2010 tech.

How well will this run GTA V?

>>57608041
>How well will this run GTA V?
Sorry, your build is too underpowered to run GTAV even at 480p.

>>57608041

All those parts aren't worth the money.

Can you get am4 boards yet?

>>57608041
Price for ram is the same for 3200mhz and the 3000mhz in amazon

>>57608041
>>57608161

this

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zNNpm8

I have an i7-3770 with a Raedon HD 7870 2GB and I'm looking to upgrade the GPU.
Which one should I take that isn't too expansive (was thinking about the RX 480 since I'm not playing that many recent games) and should I think about upgrading the CPU as well?

Hello /g/ i'm looking to build my very first gaming PC for under $1200. I'd assume an i5 and a 1060 will be sufficient for 1080p 60fps?

As this is my 1st time would you please kindly take a look at my build and please give suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/v4phm8
Should I get the AMP! or AMP! Extreme 1070?

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first build hopefully

pls r8 and change shit

>>57608709
shit forgot a mobo someone help me pick one

>>57608709
>>57608721
>unironically considering a mechanical keyboard with a sub-1k budget including a monitor
>no ssd

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NM3RgL

>>57608336
CPU is still really strong. RX480 would be a solid upgrade.

>>57608840
thanks anon

i'm gonna keep the original 144hz monitor i had though

>>57608864
144hz is a fucking meme

>>57608871
144hz is only a meme if you don't play first person shooters or you're poor.

>>57608892
This.

>>57608871
even if it is a meme

the original one i had is cheaper than the one you gave me and it still has a higher refresh rate

i don't give a fuck about the three inches i'm losing in real estate

also i mainly play cs:go so the 144hz actually matters :^)

Can anyone recomend a good computer monitor that would be easier on my eyes? My current one sucks and gives me headaches. Im not a gamer but would like it to be decently big.

>>57608892
I have thousands of hours in CS yet it don't feel like I need a 144hz monitor, or a $150 mouse/keyboard.

>>57608901
2560x1440 vs 1920x1080 is much more important

>>57608909
>playing games in 1440p
meme
either play in 1080p or 4k imo fuck 1440p

>>57608892

high refresh rate monitors are actually really nice to use on desktops considering you don't get nearly as much jitter on scrolling and moving windows

it's like going from a monitor that ghosts to one that doesn't, it doesn't seem like a huge change on paper but makes a huge impact in how nice it it feels to use

>>57608909
I'd rather have a 24" 1080p monitor at 144hz than a 27" 1440p monitor at 60hz

>>57608909
>playing cs:go at 60 Hz
How's that working out for you?

Your opinions are shit. Stop posting here.

>>57608959
>>57608966
this desu

>>57608909
>2560x1440 vs 1920x1080 is much more important
No, anon, it is not. In fact, many people will take 800x600 with a higher refresh rate over 4k resolution, which is pretty much pointless unless you're playing your games on giant screen.

My future build that I'll build in the next 6 or so months

CPU: Maybe Zen if the hype lives up, or i5 6600k, i7 6700k
Storage: 512GB Samsung 960 Evo
Graphics: Either GTX 1070 or GTX 1080
PSU: some 600W~ modular PSU, corsair or seasonic maybe
Cooling: Some Noctua air cooler
RAM: 16GB or 32GB DDR4 (2666+ MHz)
Screen: Probably 24" 1080p 144hz

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z3g3m8

I'm a drawfag. This should be enough right?

>>57609032
Get a 1440p 144 Hz monitor.

>>57607840
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>Cheapest 3000MHz DDR4 x2 4GB kit (8GB total)

So is 16GB really a meme?

>>57609059
Yeah may go for a 27" one if I can afford it

>>57609059

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/22711/asus-vg248qe-24in-widescreen-144hz-3d-monitor

How is this one?

>>57609052
Should be good. I'd save a few bucks on a cheaper cooler or just use the stock cooler at first and see how it does and use that money to get a 1060 3GB instead of a 1050ti. Well worth the ~60 bucks or whatever.

That power supply is way fucking overkill for what you're putting in there too.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/L2GcRG

r8 pls, just need it for games at decent to mediocre fps. Don't play to much modern shit atm outside maybe doom.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=369&r=8192&sort=a8&page=1

Which one should I get?

>>57609071
That would be nice.

>>57609079
I own that same exact monitor and I really like it but if I were getting a GPU as high end as a 1070 I'd get a 1440p monitor. 1070 and above is kind of wasted on a 1080p monitor even if its 144 Hz. Most games these days can be downsampled from native resolution to a lower one to improve FPS or you could turn down a few settings.

>>57609113
Fine for general gaming. Price on that 850 Evo seems a little high for what you're getting.

>>57609136
MSI GeForce GTX 1070 ARMOR or if got extra $50 MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G

>>57609064
try speaking like not a retard and we might know what you are asking

>>57608041
This. My current setup is ancient but still holds up to what i normally play but most modern games wont hit over 25fps on lowest settings.

>>57609136
Hard to say. 1070s have been riddled with controversy. Recently reliable brands like MSI and EVGA 1070s have both had VRM issues.

Go with whatever one has a good warranty and seems to have good recent reviews. They're basically all made by the same conglomerate of Taiwanese crooks anyway.

>>57609109
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DMyFKZ

Revised.

Are seagate hard drives a bad idea to have?

>>57609206
nigger stop right there
link to sources saying there are issues with MSI you disgusting hook nose jew
evga got shit as always, no one else was in articles I read

>>57609163
Well it has the best warranty and samsung is highest rated from what ive found.

>>57609222
nope
they got bad reputation when the shit out hdds when there were floods and shortage of reliable parts
at least not if you go 3-4GB

Win 8.1 or Win X for vidya?

>>57609261
10
dx12 is a thing

>>57609261
Windows 10 will have better game support long term with DX12 and more gamer have it so it will actually be developed for.

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>>57609205

I built this PC in 2010, all I did was add 4 gigs of ram and replace the gpu when the old one died in 2013.

Surprised how well GTA V runs still, on normal anyway.

Upgrading next month as I'll be getting huge pay for working the holidays this year.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/48zvqk

>>57609225
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/firmware-updates-begin-rolling-out-to-fix-gtx-1070-memory-issues/

Disgusting spoonfeeding. Also, EVGA has not always been shit. They've been one of the more highly regarded brands for the past 5 years easily.

>>57609226
Alright man, that's cool.

>>57609217
Nice. That PSU would be totally fine. I like Seasonic so I'd probably spring for their 520W Bronze but that Corsair one will probably be ok. If you find that the stock cooler is too loud then you can always get aftermarket at that point, I just don't think you'll even need it.

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>1060 6gb
>240usd
>1 fan
>small
>aesthetic

what's the catch?

>>57609310
>This means that EVGA, Gainward, Palit, MSI, Gigabyte and Asus have fixed their Micron Memory issues for GTX 1070 buyers. So far, it looks like PNY, KFA2, Zotac and Inno3D still need to release updates

1. in your link theres like 8 manufactures named, why single out MSI
2. evga was always shit on the hardware side, they made up for it with customer service, but if you saw any regular card of theirs, its always lowest numbers of phases possible, worst passive cooling, fans...

>>57609331
Maybe a lower binned GPU that doesn't overclock well but should be fine at stock speeds. Might be loud due to only having the single fan.

>>57609346
All I said was "recently reliable" brands like MSI and EVGA. I wouldn't consider the rest of those brands recently reliable, at least not on the same tier as MSI and EVGA. Fucking calm down. Obviously its a far reaching issue with 1070s in general, that's why I said check recent reviews and return policy/warranty.

>>57609289
Nice my setup is from an old gateway
Cpu:Amd Phenom 9750 x4 2.4Ghz
Ram: 8Gb ddr2
Psu: Shitty Thermaltake 450W
Gpu: Msi GTX 470 1280Mb
Hdd: Generic 1Tb Drive form toshiba i believe
Windows 7 64bit

I bought the base system for 100 bucks with everything cept the GPU it included a minitor that was 1600x900 that i still use the 470 was a card I got in a box of random pc stuff i bought at a yardsale for like 30 dollars so all in all not a bad deal 3 years ago

would you purchase a refurbished z170 motherboard?

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PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XVR4BP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XVR4BP/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Memory Express)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.95 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($538.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1633.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-20 21:25 EST-0500

I don't know what I'm doing desu.

Does this look okay or is the motherboard and cpu overkill/unnecessary?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/w2fpm8

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Here's my current specs.

I want to try and upgrade this holiday season to either an i5 or i7, but I'll also need a new mobo for it.

What combos would you guys recommend?

>>57607840
>different sample sizes
>no error bars
That image triggers me every time

so black friday week deals are starting to pop up. should i buy a 6700k now? money isn't an issue but i do like to get the most for my buck. you think prices will get lower in spring? i'm just slowly picking up parts on sale currently.

>>57609188

I hear a lot of people saying 16gb is unnecessary, is it true?

>>57609749
yes, for gamers and general use
not for some other use as VMs

but go for single 8gb stick instead of 2x4

>>57609738
asus z170 + crucial 8x2

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>>57607840
I just want to be able to play WoW/Overwatch/League/Rocket League at 1080p.

>>57609818
oh i should note i have a hyper 212 and 450w psu from a friend ill be using

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Looking for some upgrade help. What to get next?

Which is better?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cHb84C

or

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6kn2bj

budget is ~1000 dollars, and already have a 64GiB SSD

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a post with a picture is more likely to get replies.

Help me decide what cooler to use? I sort of want to get the x62 kraken to go with my s340 elite but I don't know when they come out..

Also would this build be OK?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dW7wkT

>>57609669
Fuck no.

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>>57609818
>>57609825
actually fuck it. I'll just use the old 500gb hdd i found. the 470 is so much better. will buy a cheapo SSD later.

>>57609818
>>57609825
Buy a new 1050ti instead of that old piece of junk. Smaller, quieter, better performance.

>>57609966
SSD is like the single most noticeable thing for general use. Also 2GB RAM? niggggga

>>57609818
you play those games with friends?

>>57609966
Your build is outdated as fuck

Upgrade to pentium skylake

>>57609976
I'm aware but the games I play do fine on the older architecture. WoW and overwatch in particular do great.
also since a ssd is so cheap, even just a 64gb boot drive, but the video card is an investment this makes more sense to me.
>>57609979
No i have a friend that plays on the computer but he's a casual
>>57609994
kek

>>57610009
I'm not even fucking joking

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/n8KTPs

start with this

You can swap out the h110 with a z170 if you want to upgrade the CPU later

Add a 1050ti and you can play all the games you listed at 50+ fps

>>57610009
He's serious about the pentium. The shit tier games you are playing would benefit more from a really strong dual core than an old-ass 2500k/mobo that has probably been to hell and back at this point.

>>57609848
Could add a 250GB SSD for your games and save the 120GB boot/other programs
Also could side grade to RX480 if you want to decrease heat/power consumption

>>57610150

Thanks, man. It was also suggested to me a new mobo + i5-6500 would be a good replacement cpu?

>>57609331
There is no catch. Zotac is always good.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQJwkT
How does my build look?

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>>57610255
>Zotac is always good.

>>57609289
I ran GTAV on a system I built in 2009, core i7 920. Upgraded the GFX from a GTX285 to a 970 and it still works. BF1 on good settings GTA V on good settings as well. Not ultra though. 1920x1200

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/VGzvqk

Is this PSU overkill?

so pcbg has come together and accepted that 480 > 1060 given their prices, right?

>>57610410
Nah that's fine, especially if you want to OC The CPU and the GPU.

>>57610433
I think it depends on the games you want to play right now and of course whether you're talking about the 3 GB 1060 or the full 1060. It also depends on how long you plan on owning it.

Over the next few years, if past history is any indication, the AMD card will show gains through software improvement while the Nvidia card only improves a minimal amount or just plateaus.

>>57610483
>Nah that's fine, especially if you want to OC The CPU and the GPU.

Ahh okay, cool thanks.

Any monitor recommendations for that build? I don't mind spending big. I currently have an okay monitor so I'm not in any rush.

Y'all Z170 and 6700k cucks should be hopping on this 6800k hotness for sale on Newegg right now.

>>57610540
who even has the non-neetbux to justify replacing their 6700k prior to the next current year?

>>57610540
FFFFUCK.

No money, christmas, etc.

Shit sucks.

Oh well, I'm getting Zen anyway.

>>57610540

i7 users are all cucks

>>57610534
Definitely worthy of 1440p/144 Hz.

Heard good things about this one. Obviously it's not G-Sync so not sure how important that would be for you.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAB714894154&cm_re=pixio-_-9SIAB714894154-_-Product

>>57610560
I'm saying if you're considering buying a 6700k right now then you might think again and get the big boy platform instead.

>>57610568
Fite me kid

>>57610574

I don't even really know what G-Sync is, honestly. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>57610568

I got a 6700k for only $50 more than a 6600k. It was a great deal IMO.

>>57610568
>being poor

>>57610605
>I don't even really know what G-Sync is, honestly.
It's ok. 99% of people who buy into it literally couldn't explain what it does either.

>>57610615

>$100~ difference
>poor

No, I just don't edit videos, so it's pointless.

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luddite here. how much of a performance gain will I see upgrading from an old 2gb HD6950? Huge gains, or marginal? It's like 6 years old so benchmarks don't bother comparing to it.

>budget is around 250, so maybe 1060 6gb
>currently on i5 6500 + H170
>monitor is korean PLS, 2560x1440p60 with no fancy g/freesync features

I can play a small portion of the modern shit games like dark souls 3 as-is, they're playable. Fallout 4 wasn't as playable. but from the research I've done, I can't even maintain 60fps within this budget and I'll need a 1070. Is that true?

So I'm looking to buy and build a new PC, how much of a price drop can I expect on Black Friday or Cyber Monday? Little to none?

>>57610672
HUGE gains.

Went from 560 to 470, shit was so cash.
Go with the 480 8GB, AMD ages better over time than Nvidia.

and you won't need a 1070 man, you'll be fine.

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original build was meant for i5, but I realized the i7 isn't even that much more at all - $140 is nothing

should I?

>>57607840
Is it retarded to buy components for a computer over the course of ~2 months? How much do the prices of the more expensive parts decrease over time?

>>57610731

There's no better time to do it actually with the new generation of CPUs and 10gb GPUs coming out in Jan/Feb. Prices for current parts will start dropping.

>>57610705
>$140 is nothing
If 140 = 0 then send me 200,000 lots of $140 dollars. I'll pay you a hundred dollars to compensate you for your time.

>>57610690
>100 rupees have been deposited into your account

>>57610746
So when would be the best time to buy? In a couple months time? I might grab a 1070 if it drops under 500 bucks, it's around 650 for the cheapest one at the moment. Will they drop by that much?

>>57610690
>560
oh nice, I think that was a competitor to my card at the time. I am not liking this 1 dvi port meme but I guess that's because all of my shit is old.

Do you guys think that dual Titan X Pascals will be able to handle the new League of Legends client at 20fps? My dual 1080s are running it at about 5fps atm

>>57610762
This is a decent time to buy. Zen coming out in the next ~6 months or so may rock the boat but there is always new shit on the horizon.

>>57610786
Fuck off.

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>>57610750

>>57610789
Will stuff get cheaper around Christmas?

>>57610705

If you're just gaming there's literally no point. There's no noticeable difference in terms of vidya. Save that $140 to go towards a monitor.

>>57609928
reply to the quoted post please

>>57610705
I think it's worth the gamble if you plan on owning it for a long time. In some limited situations, DX12 implementation has breathed new life into previously left for dead CPUs like the FX series since they are highly threaded.

>>57610804
Not by much if at all. In fact, the Black Friday sales are usually legit. To put it in perspective, unlocked i5's (K series) have almost always been around $240 USD. This goes back all the way to the 2500k and they generally hold their value until their stock is out which coincides with the new generation coming out.

>>57610825
The "hyper-threading doesn't help for gaming" meme will most certainly die in the near future, it's just a question of when.

>>57610922
So is it a better idea to grab stuff on Black Friday or Cyber Monday then?

>>57610705

If you like to overclock, then no.

If you don't do it so much, then go for it if you don't think $140 is much.

But in my honest opinion, I'd go with the I5, and invest in Krabby Patties in the near future anyway.

Does anybody know what cpu liquid cooling works for a cooler master haf x case?

I need a 1440p 120hz monitor that won't break the bank. Under 250USD, please. Thanks.

>>57611016
Why specifically 120hz?

shit's rare.

>>57610938

This, except wait for AMD Zens.

>>57610922
When the fuck is Black Friday/Cyber Monday? Ausfag here.

>>57610937
I think so. For example, the 6600K is 220 USD right now and it's only been that low once in the past few months. The sales should be good this week and next.

>>57611081
The Friday and Monday immediately following the US holiday of Thanksgiving (always 4th Thursday in November.)

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/y8FPgL

Can I trim the fat on this any more while still keeping the monitor, a keyboard 1060, and i5 6600?

>>57611127
Alright thanks for the info. Hopefully some of the savings transfer to Australia, really don't want to spend $600+ on a 1070 if I can help it.

>>57611141
no
you need to buy a bigger case, your parts won't fit in that without a lot of difficulty
Also you really should get an SSD if you're getting a 1060
If you're that strapped for cash I would recommend downgrading to a 1050 or a 1050ti

>>57611150
Right up there with you but in Canada.

>>57611249
you snowniggers really need to learn how to import from china so the US stops shafting western civilization.

>>57604420
I'm using a amd x2 3800+ cpu which is extremely old

>>57611072
Should have specified, sorry. Well, I felt like going for a Qnix 2710, but I was wondering if there's another monitor that can overclock more reliably. Overlord is kill. ;-;
>inb4 hurrdurr there's more to monitors than those two

Let me down easy
what did i fuck up on?
im only doing vidya, my budget is 2k

>>57611483
harrison?

>>57611483
wow im autistic
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BKVzkT

>>57611497
ford?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/svWrYr

how'd I do?

>>57611501
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/svWrYr
get a 250gb ssd instead of a 500
use the money you saved on a 1080
>>57611517
>no ssd
>spending more on the cpu than the gpu
>no monitor or peripherals
pretty retarded desu
What's your budget and what are you planning on using it for?

>>57611517
get an i5

is the ~$40 difference between low and high-priced gtx 1060s worth it? Is there a marked improvement?

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I just want to play Mount and Blade 2: Bannerlord on a comfy 1080p at 60fps.

So, I have an AMD FX-4200 and an R9 280 3GB. I need to upgrade both, but which should I upgrade first? I'm really torn. I do mostly play RPGs like Witcher, Skyrim, New Vegas, etc, but I still think a GPU boost might serve me better

Thoughts? I'm completely torn here

>>57611638
do it

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>>57611671
I don't have a PC yet silly!

>>57611647
upgrade your gpu to a 1060 or a 1070
1060 if you're ok with upgrading again in 2-3 years, 1070 if not

>>57611616
That's an extra 3GB of VRAM. Worth it for longevity. A lot of games max out 3GB these days, especially at higher resolutions

>>57611693
Oh, I meant low and high-end 6gb vram cards. for example,
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3bL7YJ/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-strix-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1060-o6g-gaming
vs. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/MwgPxr/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-mini-itx-oc-video-card-gv-n1060ixoc-6gd

>>57611170
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/svWrYr

How does this look?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9rDzFd

>>57607921
left comes in some fancy box, sata cable, maybe screws and probably a cd to help you transfer/clone shit.

right comes in some anti-static bag.

>>57611735
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4n64BP

Fixed.
6500 comes with it's own cooler.

get a case that matches the ATX size of your motherboad, it's awkward to have an ATX case with a MicroATX mobo inside.

>>57611688
build one

>>57611735
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cGPzFd
if you dont use the storage on your computer then remove the hard drive
two sticks of ram is better than one
z170-a so you can actually overclock if you want

>>57611777
>6500 comes with it's own cooler
yeah but it's loud and doesnt work well with overclocking, worth the extra 15 bucks to get a quiet cooler

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7YNypg/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-xtreme-gaming-video-card-gv-n1070xtreme-8gd

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/fKp323/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-gtx-1070-gaming-x-8g

Is there any real reason to get the Gigabyte over the MSI?

>>57611647
Like I told you yesterday >>57597122, get an RX 470 and an FX 83XX for your AM3+ socket. After selling your old CPU + gfx card, the upgrade will cost you less than $200 and you'll have a great PC.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKX2bj

My planned upgrade from my gtx650 2gb / FX6100 toaster.
amidoinitrite?

Is this actually excellent, or are they just shilling unnecessarily expensive junk you don't need?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/guide/wkmPxr/excellent-gaming-build

>>57611835
Not a reason worth 100 bucks

>>57610205
That CPU is a sidegrade as well, but I'd hold on the the 8350 until after Zen and Coffee Lake, when you can get another eight thread CPU for cheap but with twice the perf of your FX

>>57611835


Nope. The $60 difference is silly. MSI is better.

>>57611877
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gKX2bj
solid build, i'd recommend the coolermaster 212 evo for your cpu over that garbage you have and a samsung 850 ssd over that garbage you have but pretty well balanced other than that
>>57611880
they're shilling
>muh watercooling
a garbage mobo and a 500gb ssd when you only need a 250, and the psu is a bit pricey

>>57611880
It's meh, needs 3000MHz RAM and a 1440p Gsync monitor, which will be like another 800 or so kangabux

>>57611877
Monitor sucks, need 1080p 144Hz or 1440p Gsync or get a 1060 6GB
If you get a Z170 mobo get 3000MHz RAM

>>57611880

>gaymur shit
>pointless water cooling for an i5
>pricey ram and psu
>gimping on storage with cheap shit


It's garbage.

>>57611934
>500gb SDD

My steam folder is over 350 gigs large. What are you, a pleb?

>>57611971
>overloading your ssd with literally every game you own
>not just putting your OS, and the 3-4 games you play most often on it because ssds are less reliable
Are you retarded?

Wow! Three years and HGST hasn't improved a bit... They need to get their shit together.

>>57611995
pls be b8

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>>57611980
>ssds are less reliable

I need a 2TB HDD for my new build. Toshiba is cheaper than WD, so I'm conflicted. Will Toshiba last me a decade?

I know WD will as my current PC had a WD hard drive, and I've had it strong for 8 years.

I'm just wondering of Toshiba is reliable.

>>57612005
don't ever smug me with my own waifu again you fucking heathen

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>>57612011
>claiming her as your own

Does anyone know of any mousepads that aren't made with latex? I have an allergy.

>>57612005

they still are though

he's right about just putting your OS and most played games on it. Other games (backlog) go in your HDD.

>>57611853
Honestly, I was so sleepy that I didn't even remember posting at all before I crashed last night. My bad. I'll probably sell the 280 and get the 1060, and wait until I have enough scratch to get the 8350. Thankfully, I was smart enough to get an aftermarket cooler, although the Wraith cooler is surprisingly fantastic. Hyper 212 EVO all day though

>>57611732
Eh, I wouldn't worry too much about it. It's usually small upgrades over base. I'd personally suggest the EVGA 1060 SSC. Perfect price/performance ratio, and their fans are amazing. Great customer support too

>>57611806
Is this good?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qbp3m8

Should I just accept the $850 for all of this and run while I can?

>>57612064
Thanks for the advice.
>>57612065
That looks pretty good desu
Don't feel too bad, here in kangaland I'd pay ~$1400 for the same computer.

>>57612010

Get a Seagate.

>>57611568
i have a monitor and peripherals
i have no need for an ssd
and i plan on using it for gaming and some emulation and video recording

>>57611574
why?

I was planning on going with an i5 6500 but was told to either wait for a zen or get an i7

>>57607840
What happened to make Seagate hard drives fail so much less?

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Building a computer for my older brother's law firm reception desk. Use case is word processing, e-mails, calendar management, light spreadsheeting. Budget is $600 for the box.

On the right is my build. On the left is a prebuilt available from a retailer for $498, but I will get a ~10% discount on it so let's say $450.

Which one would you choose and why? I'm just not sure how the J3710 stacks up against the i3 but I like how the i3 has an upgrade path to something better because it uses the 1151 and the J3710 doesn't. Also, the build has an SSD.

>>57612171
If you're doing video recording, you should have an i7. That gpu is garbage tier, get a 1060 or a 1070. I don't think you know what an ssd does. It's a hard drive, but it runs much, much faster than a traditional hard drive does. You put software that you use a lot, like your os, on it and it boots several times quicker and runs better. It's almost a necessity in [current year].
>>57612233
They figured out that building parts with subpar components is more expensive in the long run, and started using better quality components.
>>57612241
Get the prebuilt. Building in microATX is a pain, especially for a first time builder, and more hassle than it's worth for a spreadsheetng computer.

>>57612241
>>57612292
Fuck the prebuilt, and why is your shit so expensive

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZcRFKZ

>>57612314
>Australia
the prebuilt is good value for the arse end of the world.

>>57612314
wait, forgot optical drive.

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>>57612292
>Building in microATX is a pain, especially for a first time builder, and more hassle than it's worth for a spreadsheetng computer
It's not my first build, I just can't find any good info comparing the two processors. I know that my build is better in terms of memory, storage, mobo, etc. etc., I just want input on the CPUs and I can't find anything in depth on the net because the internet is full of high-end consumer gaming bullshit and not practical knowledge for business purposes, to my chagrin.

Basically the J3710 has 4 cores whereas the i3 has 2 hypethreaded cores and a much higher clock speed, so I'm feeling the i3 (it's also heaps cheaper because it's on sale), but I just can't find any real benchmarking for the J3710.

I want to get them the best value computer I can and I'm on uni break so having to build it will give me something to do so I don't mind if it's a pain.

>>57612314
See pic.

>>57612342
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/437/Intel_Core_i3_i3-6100_vs_Intel_Pentium_J3710.html

>>57612326
Oh, shoulda mentioned country first.
Was a bit ticked there for a second.

>>57612335
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mBhjNN
shit, here's the link that doesn't matter anymore.
>>57612342
Ah my bad again.

Go with the i3 man, works fine for me when it comes to shit like that. College classes that needed excel, word, etc were fine.

is it possible to use a Radeo RX480 on an Intel S5500WB Motherboard ?

From the Intel Website:

Maximum of PCI-Express-Lanes 2
PCIe x8 (Gen 2.x) 1
PCIe x16 (Gen 2.x) 1

is the Maximum of 2 PCIe Lines a Problem ?

I'm not great at this and this is what I've come up with for a 1070 build in Canadian, though I may be extra stupid and get a 1080 instead. Primary use is gaming, and I'm not looking for 4k, but do want a fairly consistent 60 FPS rate with high - ultra setting.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/broem157/saved/#view=4rRTWZ

>>57612375
Yeah I found a ton of stuff like that but I was looking for application benchmarks like "time taken to execute a spreadsheet formula" which don't exist. I'm pretty sure articles like the one you posted are computer generated, but nobody would bother writing an article by hand comparing two unpopular low-end processors, especially when one is not flagship.

>>57612376
>College classes that needed excel, word, etc were fine.
That makes me feel better, then. I'll probably go with it anyway, was just trying to make sure I had confidence in my recommendation. If it was my computer I'd buy the i3 but it's somebody else's money.

>>57607840
Is a $50 difference between an i5-6600k and an i5-6500 worth it for just gaming?

>>57612376
>Oh, shoulda mentioned country first.
I swear to God I thought I did but I just checked the post and you're right. I need to sleep.

>>57612377
>is the Maximum of 2 PCIe Lines a Problem?
Don't think so, but I'm pretty sure the RX 480 should work.

>>57612398
6600K lets you overclock to 4.0+ GH and above, for faster speeds with proper air or water cooling.

>>57612403
I jsut saw the australia shipping post in the pic, you and me man, lets hit the sack.

>>57612396
You're right. Really, nobody gives a fuck about lower-end hardware. There's no web traffic and hence no money to make off of low-end cpu comparisons, because the only people buying them are normies who have no idea what anything means.

>>57612392
Yeah it's fine, I'd buy a full sized case though. Looks cooler even if it's a big bastard, but the main reason is because
>easier to work in
>room for if you want to overclock and get a fuckoff huge cooler
>never have to worry about case space ever again
Enthoo Pro is god tier.

>>57612411
Pairing the processor with a 1060. Probably just gonna get a 212 evo to cool it. Can the 6500 not overclock?

>>57612421
Intel processors with the -K suffix can overclock

No -K suffix, no overclocking.(to an extent, I know there was a time when intel released a microcode and mobo bios update preventing overclocks of non-k cpus. not sure if it's still possible or not.)

>>57612392
60fps on what sort of monitor? You'll never drop under 60fps on a 1080p, but you'll probably suffer a bit on a 1440p monitor, depending on what you're playing. Also probably worth getting a Samsung 850 SSD or 750 if you don't want to spend the money.

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Finally built my first PC, need to work on my cable management. At first it wouldn't boot, turned out that my single 8gb if ram was in the wrong slot for single channel.

>>57612447
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/spbkcf/acer-monitor-umhg0ee001

For monitor.

>>57612449
I remember my first computer build. Felt so good when I hit the power button and the screen lit up. Congratulations man.
Now fix your cables before you give me an aneurysm

>>57612456
If you've got the money to spend on a 500 dollar monitor, then just get the 1080 desu. Once you finish your build you'll never regret the purchase.

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Any good deals for 6600k + mobo yet or should I wait?

>>57612486
PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA
Don't buy parts until Black Friday and Cyber Monday (25th and 28th of this month), parts will be the cheapest they will be for a while then
PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA PSA

>>57612505
Which is generally cheaper, Friday or Monday?

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>>57612505
Ok I will wait but I will track you down and gas you if I miss anything

>>57612505
In the US, friday, elsewhere Monday

>>57612092
Np. It's a good question to ask. Only expensive upgrade to base I know for a fact is worth it is the Classified version of the xx80 and xx80Ti. EVGA is the bomb. 980Ti Classified is still stronger than a 1080, from what I've heard. You definitely pay for it, but it's incredible what EVGA does

inb4 "are you paid by them." I fucking wish I had an income

>>57612065
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/g4Z2bj

You're going to want more than 250GB max storage, trust me. Most games range from 20-50GB now. Don't want to skimp on the PSU either. That's easily the worst part to skimp on, because cheap parts can cause it to go kaboom, taking hundreds of dollars of hardware with it.

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>>57612523
please bring me the sweet release of a guiltless death

1060 or an 480 8gb and why?

>>57612571
480 8GB
>More VRAM
>Ages Better
>better DX12 support.
>No Gesync
>Freesync monitors cost less.

>>57612571
1060. AMD driver support is really hit or miss, granted it's been getting better. 1060 outperforms the 480 by 15% on average on DX11 and lower, and they're within 1% of each other on DX12. Considering the majority of games aren't running DX12 for obvious reasons such as it being only a few months old, I'd go with Nvidia

>>57612597
>ages better
>performs worse on most APIs
>ties on DX12
I mean, it shows that AMD has done a great job in optimizing for DX12 that it closes a 15% gap to where the two cards are practically identical, but that still leaves the majority of games where it's the inferior card

inb4 Nvidiot. I run a pure AMD PC

>>57612571
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-480-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/3634vs3639
I have this clipped for every time some retard asks that question here instead of using google.

What's a the best motherboard for an i5-6600k and a 1060? Looking to save as much as I can without messing with performance. I was thinknig an asus z-170p.

>>57612662
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/qkX2FT/msi-motherboard-z170apro

Make sure you get some fast RAM to go with it. Higher bandwidth is always great, even if you have to shell out a bit more up front. Skylake seriously loves it's fast RAM

>>57612631
do you think DX12 will pick up soon?

Are Toshibas hdds better than seagate?

Carpal tunnel is kicking in, so last post of the night... probably

>>57612686
Yeah. It's going to be the new API of choice for developers. Literally no reason to use DX11 over it afaik. Still, for older games that don't use DX12, the choice is basically this:

1060:

Pros -

15% faster
Much better driver support
User control panel is better than AMD's, from what I hear
GameWorks works a hell of a lot better

Cons -

6GB VRAM vs 8GB VRAM. The 1060's RAM is clocked higher than the 480's, so it's a bit less black and white than 6 vs 8, but nonetheless, AMD has more
AMD optimized games don't tend to run too well

480:
Pros -

2GB more VRAM
AMD optimized games run better
Vulkan API makes AMD run like a dream, but it's not exactly popular. I don't see it taking off

Cons -
15% slower on non-DX12/Vulkan games
Takes more electricity
Generates more heat
Drivers are worse
Nvidia GameWorks games don't run too well, but you can usually offset that quite a bit using the Crimson Software to manually set tessellation low

>>57612705

WD. Best hands down.

>>57612631
>1060 outperforms the 480 by 15% on average on DX11 and lower
Who cares? In DX 11 either of those cards can easily get Ultra 60FPS (vast majority of DX11 games) or High 60FPS (a few recent releases).

Personally I just played Dishonored and Wolfenstein:TNO on Ultra 60FPS locked flawlessly. Mad Max I played with 1440p VSR and got 60FPS locked on the Ultra Preset.

Where performance really matters is in upcoming titles, where the 4GB 480 often outperforms the 6GB 1060 while being significantly cheaper.

>>57612782
>Personally I just played
I should mention that I have the 470, not even the full 480.

Rate?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Venzan/saved/HbTJxr

Ausbux prices by the way.

>>57612782
>File deleted
What did he mean by this?

>>57612812
Get a bigger case, get a modular power supply, don't pay for windows at all, and DEFINITELY don't pay for windows 10 if you decide to use that garbage. Don't bother with the cooler. If you're not overclocking you don't need it and if you are you need more.

Will there be better deals on black friday/cyber monday?

>>57612948

I have a Win 7 disc actually. I don't know how Win10 got up there. Completely missed it myself. I would never pay.

>get a modular power supply

Any suggestions you could throw me?

I don't overclock myself so I'll scrap the hsf then

pick this up for £600, how did I do?

Specs:
-AMD FX-8350 (8 Core @ 4Ghz)
-Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 Motherboard
-Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
-8GB of Kingston HyperX Beast RAM (@ 1600Mhz)
-Gigabyte GTX 1060 G1 Gaming graphics card
-Corsair CS650M Semi-Modular PSU
-1TB Western Digital Caviar Green HDD (@7200RPM)
-256GB Crucial MX100 SSD
-250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
-Fractal Design Define S Case (With window installed)

>>57611365
bump>>

>>57613000
>Any suggestions you could throw me?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/HHx9TW/silverstone-power-supply-st70fpb
Cheapest 700W on the net.

You can get a 500W one but the 700W is actually cheaper according to the website for some dumb reason, no doubt.

Also, you can get by just fine with a i5 3570 (what I've currently got in my rig) unless you're playing CPU intensive games like Paradox or Civ games, so don't feel the need to spend fortunes on your CPU.

>>57613014
Fucking solid for the most part. Literally the only thing that I'd change is the RAM. Get some 1866mhz RAM and you're golden. The FX-83xx uses 1866mhz as it's base, so if you're not using that, it's not performing as well as it should. Not a big issue until you decide to overclock though. If you OC, you're going to be creating a bottleneck that worsens your performance. I don't understand the logic behind it, but I've seen it happen

>>57613037
ok thanks, wasn't too sure how AMD cpus are, it's always been intel this or intel that.

how much would you say the build would actually be worth?

>>57613014
>-AMD FX-8350 (8 Core @ 4Ghz)
>-Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 Motherboard
It's meh, since you bought new you should have gotten a Skylake i3 for the upgrade path alone if not for the performance
>x2 SSDs
m8

>>57613036
>>57613000
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yMrcRG
lmao just realised the CPU doesn't stock a cooler.

Anyway, revised list. I think I even saved you some money, but maybe it's just because I took Windows off. The Enthoo Pro is the top tier of cases btw, it's fantastic. I have one. Worth the money but not essential.

Which one should I go with /g/

https://www.gumtree.com/p/desktop-workstation-pcs/gaming-pc-gtx-titan/1200941931

or

https://www.gumtree.com/p/desktop-workstation-pcs/powerful-gaming-pc-ready-to-go/1195273063

it sounds like khalifa is bullshitting because I can't see how that is worth 2.2k

>>57612948
>Don't bother with the cooler. If you're not overclocking you don't need it and if you are you need more.
The Hyper 212 EVO can easily take care of a Skylake i5.. it can ]handle 150W CPUs

>>57612948
>>57613000
Also i5 6600K doesn't come with a stock heatsync + fan

>>57613045
If you have Windows 10 Anniversary Update, the CPU is terrific. If not... eh. Buddy of mine went from 55fps average in Ass Creed Unity to 120fps+ just from being able to use all 8 cores instead of only 4. Value wise, I'd say probably 1200-1300 USD, or 972-1,053 pounds

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/QFJn8K
any bad fuckups in this one?
1080p 144hz gaming at least for now

>>57613089
>I'd say probably 1200-1300 USD, or 972-1,053 pounds
Fuck no, that's way too optimistic. You are literally retarded, considering you can build an i5 6600K + GTX 1070 for 1000USD

>>57613092
EVGA cards explode.

>>57613067
Anyone?

>>57613045
>how much would you say the build would actually be worth?
If it's new probably about 600-700USD
Used 500USD

Is it a good idea to install Windows 7 on a Skylake Z170 build, or should I just get a Haswell system?
I have absolutely no plans to use Windows 10.

If I was to go crazy and get a 1080, which make should Iook at?

>>57613222
You can, but you have to install from disc or inject the USB 3.X drivers into the img to install from USB

Hey thanks a million man.

Halp
Im getting 2 monitors, one 1080p 60hz for watching netflix, youtube, etc, the other one for gaming. For the gaming one should i get a 1440p 60hz monitor or a 1080p 144hz monitor. I dont know ;(

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Need help, is buying this RAM now a good futureproof for ZEN next year?

The reason is since trump won, the computer hardware prices already increase nearly 10% in my country and it still going to increase because forex is fucked up.

If the forex forecast is true, i probably save $20 if i don't bought it next year.

>>57613270
>you have to install from disc
It's too bad, then, that an FT02 just can't hold an optical drive...

>inject the USB 3.X drivers into the img to install from USB
So literally nothing.

What about updating and shit? Am I going to run into any problems there? Will they still try to ram their crappy botnet down my throat?

>>57613353
Prices will fall back down. Too much risk to buy before you know what Zen can / will use

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Hey guys, I'm building a PC that i hope will be able to hold up for a few more years with parts related, except i have a few parts already and i need help Figuring out something good for mid-high tier gaming.
The Mobo and RAM atm are not really decided, just placeholders since i can't seem to decide properly, and the PSU is a maybe since i already have a chink 600W PSU I got in a repair a few years ago. Would anybody be able to help at all? Live in AUS, Budget is around 1500-1600.

>>57613360
>What about updating
No problems, but Win7 will stop getting updates before the computer is obsolete

>Will they still try to ram their crappy botnet down my throat?
Of course. Telemetry was port to Win7 and has been / will be installed as updates. Have to find them and hide them and also the future ones MS makes to ensnare the people who update blindly

>>57613383
Need SSD and 3000MHz RAM

>>57613281

meant for

>>57613056

>>57613364
>Too much risk to buy before you know what Zen can/will use
that's one of my concern too since every RAM todays are XMP.

>>57613406
The SSD i'm definitely going for, but i'm not exactly well versed on the ram aside from "higher freqency, less latency in games". Why would i need 3000Mhz exactly?

>>57613427
XMP is just how Intel handles "fast" RAM
Interestingly later Intel chipsets will support 2400MHz natively instead of just 2133

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>>57613439

>>57613426
No worries, just make sure you actually check and understand the size of a full-sized case. They're fucking huge. That's good because assembly is easy and fun and never have to worry about case space, but if you've got a small desk or weak arms or have to move it often, maybe not.

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>>57613462
Herp, forgot pic.

>>57613457
Thanks.

Does anybody have any good recommendations for Skylake motherboards under $150 AUS that are SLI capable?

>>57613462
Not who you're replying to, but i know that struggle. I accidentally ordered the case i wanted in the wrong model, the number difference was only one or so but the size difference was Mid-tower and Full-tower. You're right on the easy part, it's nice.

>>57611365
bump

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Fractal Design Define R5 fag here from two days ago.

Here's the finished build, which looks really good. The Define R5 is definitely an upgrade from the R4. It was incredibly easy to manage the cables even with my bulky non-modular power supply. The hard drive cages also doesn't vibrate as much as the R4. I really like the completely modular HDD and ODD cages, giving the user many choices and I hope to God that they don't remove the fan controller in future versions.

I'm thinking about buying some ricer LED strips since I bought the windowed version. Hmmm.....

And fuck any manufacturer whose fans have proprietary mounting holes and dimensions (Looking at you, Be Quiet. Sure, their fans are quieter than Noctua but still).

>>57613506
Do your own research faggot, perhaps look into the FM2 socket or Phenom II

>>57613462

I take my PC to friends houses a lot so I'll have to stick with Mids I think. I have a mid currently also, but it's a decade old.

>>57613470

Do full sized cases have better ventilation, and are they easier to clean?

>>57613521
Look at all that unused space

>>57613056
>http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/yMrcRG

What would an i7 version of this look like with a beefier mobo n gpu???

I will be building mini pc next year (Dan case) so I am just waiting for price drops and shit.

>>57613594

Yes for both.

>>57613605

Maybe I should put back the other HDD cage and shove a bunch of low capacity hard drives in there.

In fact, I'm gonna do that right now. Will update with a picture after the LED strip has been bought. Thinking about Blue or Orange (NZXT sleeved LED kit).

>>57613682
Might restrict airflow

what are good quiet replacement case fans

don't care about looks

>>57613577

It doesn't end up being much heavier at all, honestly. You should be okay if you lift. Even if you have a small table I'd highly suggest accommodation a full sized case. As someone said, if you ever wanna shove something in there it's not a hassle and, cable management is easier, so is cleaning which isn't required as frequently as a mid sized case.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/
Rate my build?
>inb4 paying for windows REEEEEEE
Its for a normie friend, and thats also why I included keyboard and mouse. He has a budget of $1k

Also image because more replies

I'm very paranoid about having parts shipped to me, but it's so much more convenient. I just fear that the parts will get man handled. Should I get over it and try it out? It ends up being much cheaper than buying all the shit from one place.

>>57613391
What about the "rollup"patch thing? Also, is there an easier way to update a fresh Win7 install and also be able to remove the snooping bullshit besides this one: https://www.askwoody.com/2016/how-to-install-windows-7-from-scratch/

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>>57613881
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>57613942
God damn it, one more time.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YPzZzM

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I play a lot of vidya. I have $400 worth of steam games, and it's time for an upgrade. I have no experience with SSDs, but I have if you have one that it's best to put the OS on it, and your main games.

Should I get a 2TB HDD, and just have 2x 250GB SSDs?

>>57613954

NOT bad but do you think a normie would need that much storage?

>>57607840
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/W8gPgL

That is my pending list. the ssds are pending change, the hdd is what ill be getting though.

going to get 7 ultimate and 10 enterprise if I can

all that's left is amd and its cpu, how good that is builds the rest of my computer.

>>57614003
He specifically said he wanted a SSD+storage solution. I made it RAID for failure tolerance. I dont know how to make that config any cheaper.

>>57614030
also, raid 1 isnt enough, because when there is a fault, raid 1 cant pick out which one is the fault drive.

>>57614030
>>57614043

ahh then it's a perfectly fine build

>>57613056

that psu is fucking overkill

>>57614179

How so? It's good for overclocking the i5 and in general if he ever adds more hardware. It's also pretty reasonably priced.

>>57613912

It's fine. Electronics are usually delivered in vans, and not huge fuck off trucks, so more care is taken.

I've had hard drives and graphics cards shipped all fine. Just refrain from international purchases.

any thoughts about the corsair air 740?

thinking about getting it

>>57607905
i know that feel, my 1tb seagate from 09 is still going strong

>>57608937
nah cunt, 1440p @ 120hz is where its at.

so I have r7 360 what would be best cpu for it between 4320,6300,8300,8350. im on really low budget I want to play semi-modern games and I barely use it for any kind of work (I dont count webm converting as work)

and would bronze seasonic with around 500w be enough for OCing that?

is the 2gb gtx 960 worth it at $130?

any good black friday/cyber monday deals yet?

>XFX nForce 750i sli lga 775
>8gb ddr2 unknown ram
>xeon x5460
>MSI twin frozr ii r6950

Bought this all for $114.00 dollars shipped. Comes with stock intel fan but probs going to soend 30 bucks on a cpu cooler. How fucked am I?

>>57614559
6400 probs be the best budget at your price point. You can find the 8350 for like 140 on newegg right now though with black friday sales. I have the 8350 atm, dont let any fuckboi tell you it isnt worth it. I recently put it in my 4 year old gaming build with an r9 fury. Keeping 60fps solid in all games I play, easily overclockable too.

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should I order my parts now, wait until friday, or wait until monday?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Smallest case that can house a decent gtx 1070, a decent cooler for an i5 6600k, and everything else to make a PC work? Must also stay QUIET and COOL

All the ITX cases are either fucking tiny or shit

>>57608638
Definitely overkill, at that point you are pushing 1440p

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Probably the most literal 2k build ever.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Mymxbj

What's the cheapest I can get a Rx 470 in Europe?

>>57608709
Why would you get a 4460 over a 6500? Yeah it's $20 more, but you get access to ddr4 ram, newer mobos, and a 2-5% performance increase.

im picking new psu, choosing between seasonic and evga, more inclined to evga since it seems much more silent but heard it has higher fault rate. should I buy it anyway? the silence is really important for me

>>57615420
You didn't ask a question. How are we supposed to respond?

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>>57616151

shit you're right

besides my autism over the price what little improvements could be mae?

I have an i5 4670k and a 2GB 770.
Trying to figure out the best upgrade for the buck and I'm not against buying a used cars for a good deal. These new console ports are finally making my card show it's age.
What do you guys think I should upgrade to for like 250 or less? Or should I try to hold on until I can get a 1070 for that price down the road?

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/XCHzFd

Is G-Sync even necessary if I can run at >144fps? I only ask because the BenQ has freesync.

Also recommend decent keyboard/mice for gaming. Nothing with excessive buttons, lights are fine.

is a 40 inch 4k TV acceptable to use as a monitor?

>>57616488
what are you using it for primarily?

>>57616501
coding and gaming

>>57607905
>>57607840
This looks like a shill post by a Chinese. My Asus laptop has Toshiba after using it for a year and had to replace it after using it for an year. lost all of my data with it. Even now, the new HDD makes a lot of screeching sound.

>>57616556
as long as the tv doesn't have inherent input lag then i dont see why not

>>57616204
Hyper 212x is outperformed by the cheaper Cryorig H7. Hyper 212x actually has a terrible price-performance ratio. Nobody should buy it. 212 evo is better value.
Idk about Aus pricing but mobo seems retarded expensive. Get something like a msi z170 SLI or SLI plus, add a $20 lighting strip if you need lights. PSU is a brand ive never heard of. Make sure you check reviews.

>>57616488
How far away are you sitting from it?

>>57616904
>Cryorig H7

literally unattainable is Aus right now.

Should I import it overseas? I'm kinda skeptical about that.

>>57616945
No don't bother importing it. It's probably out of stock because it's super popular. But don't buy the 212x.

>>57616904
what? they are same price here

is it possible to get a good gaming prebuilt pc for around £500? only good deals I've seen are alienware :^)

Newegg is rolling out black friday sales already, you guys think its a good idea to start buying stuff or or wait till monday? they got an i7 6800 for 379 and an MSI GTX 1070 for 399. I wouldnt wanna miss out.

Do I really need a $80 air cooler to hit good clocks on amd fx cpus?

>>57617137
>Idk about Aus pricing but
Sorry, I'm just banging out quick responses at work. If the 212x is only a tiny price difference from the 212evo go for it. In US there's just tons of great options in that price range. Be Quiet!, Artic, noctua and others all have options in the price range.

Which gtx 1060 manufacturer is the best in terms of quality? Having a tough time choosing

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>>57617651
not aus guy doesnt matter that much to me since I need >>57617616 more than hyperevo

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vjdxbj

First time building a PC . Any suggestions? Mostly worried about motherboard compatibility so any help would be great. Already have a spare HDD.

I want it for games and music recording.

>>57618169
you sure about that psu? it seems its not even bronze, with all those pricy components I would pick some gold/platinum
>72% efficiency

>>57618259
That makes sense, I wouldnt want a cheap PSU potentially shafting expensive stuff.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/2GKcRG
I updated with and EVGA gold, dunno if evga is a meme brand for psus. Alternatives welcome.
Thanks!

>>57618169
Jesus that build id pure autism..

>>57618404
Hey man, feel free to suggest anything, I am asking for help after all.

>>57613113
SSD prices have plummeted since I last looked at them. Still, brand new, it'd come to about $930 USD

>>57613141
Literally never heard of this, but I did have a buddy who had the copper on his [spoiler]760[/spoiler] bend, and EVGA paid for him to ship the card to them to fix, AND gave him a loaner card to use while they fixed his. That's some damn good customer support

Should I keep my 16gb DDR3 and buy a compatible mobo, or say fuck it and buy a processor upgrade pack with 8gb DDR4?

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>>57618404
great post anon! good job!

>>57618169
>>57618389
>>57618453
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfMwkT

Not much more expensive, but it'll make your CPU run a lot better

>>57618729
Thanks, much appreciated friend.

building shit for uncle
whats the best option for heavy browsing/movie box. it needs to be able to use win7
pi or mini atx?

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>>57618169
>not this
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YH9tKZ