https://www.theguardian.com/world/2 016/nov/19/extreme-surve

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SMEARED

>>57590951
nobody cares pedophile
go encrypt your CP

>>57591055
Tbh you should care. The more people let this happen. The worse it gets

>>57591055
>implying trump won't pull this shit

>>57591100
>implying there is anything wrong with catching pedos
get >>>/out/ >>>/a/utist

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Meanwhile criminals are using number stations that are literally impossible to decrypt.

Next it will be illegal to use blinds in your home in britbongistan.

>>57590951
Britcucks cucked again

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>>57590951
Where's Farage when you actually need him for something important huh britcucks?

BRITBONGISTAN

NOT EVEN ONCE

>>57591100
this

>>57591117
You don't catch pedos that way. In fact all it does is force criminals to use more secure means of communications like OTP encryption you fucking retard.

>>57591125
Curtains > blinds

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>>57591158
t. time traveler from the 15th century

>>57591055
>>57591117
Are you two always this retarded or are you making the effort today?

>>57591125
>implying illiterate ISIS sandniggers even know what a numbers station is when they can barely use a modded android on their phones to "avoid" surveillance
those niggers communicate through normal cellphone calls and shit like Playstation Network like the Paris attacks showed

>>57591210
Playstation Network? Where's my ISIS gaming bros? Can I play COD with them?

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>>57591234
>Can I play COD with them?
obviously

>>57591280
Looks like the bedroom of most university aged westerners, complete with shitty 'expressive' graffiti

>>57591280
Proof video games makes you violent

>>57590951

whatever happened to brexit?

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>>57591210
That's what they want you to think. Underestimating your enemy is the stupidest thing you can possibly do. Just ask the nips who got their shit fucked sideways, up, down, and around.

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>>57590951
Holy shit, V for Vendetta was a documentary from the future

>>57591403
>overestimating your enemy solely cause someone else overestimated theirs 70 years ago
get a rope murrikan faggot

>>57590951
Don't care. Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

>>57591560
Have you been with the sandniggers and confirmed their real understanding of tech? If not then go fuck yourself in a batch of boiling oil.

>>57591595
Have you? No you haven't, but the french fag intelligence sure did and found out how they communicated through rudimentary methods like PSN and normal sms, now go fuck yourself retard.

>>57591631
>trusting a snail eater who let muslims fuck their wives
wew
e
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>>57591563
Obligatory

The government still can't decrypt HTTPS traffic. They can only see what sites you visit (and they've been able to do that for years, this law just makes the process to do it quicker).

>>57591649
Literally no argument, come back when you get one, amerifat.

>>57591681
t.frechfag currently watching his wife get creamed by alaluh abjakdar

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>>57591055
>>57591563

>>57591666
What about the hacking part?

>>57591563
>>57591055
NSAIDF out in full force. Stop trying to take my rights away you pigs.

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>>57591709
Not really effective since most people are not degenerate homosexuals (ie iphone users).

>>57591696
still no argument my fat friend and i'm not a frog eater either

Can't we just cut all the submarine cables that connect the UK to the rest of the world?

The internet is too good for the likes of those inbred vermin.

>>57591709
The government is already allowed to do that, they just require a permit. This law will just streamline the process of acquiring a permit if they can see that your internet activity is dodgy. And allowing your device to get hacked means that you either use an insecure device or you use a secure device in an insecure way (either way, it's your fault if you get hacked).

Besides, the government doesn't have the resources to search through every single person's internet history. And even if it was possible, they certainly don't have the resources to hack every single person's device either.

>>57591770
How many people know how to secure their device?

>>57591722
Preventing terrorism and pedophilia is far more important than your rights. What good are your rights if a terrorist kills you. Or children being scarred for life from pedophiles?

>>57591839
Simply keeping your machine updated and using fairly strong passwords will keep you safe from the vast majority of attacks.

Although the answer to that question is irrelevant. Ignorance shouldn't be encouraged. If anything, having controversial laws like this is good since it makes more people aware of things like basic security.

>>57591882
If you trust your government to do the right thing. I do not. Governments don't care about the people. They just want to get in power and pay those who keep themselves in power.
Also why are you posting on an anonymous image board? Use facebook

>>57591882
Less children, more gorrilas.

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How soon you all forget that the American government made American companies put in backdoors at the hardware level.

So while the UK government are peering in the window the US government literally has the key.

But I'm sure you're all using pre-07 processors, right?

>>57591968
I trust the government as much as I trust any other criminal. These new laws just gives the government access to the same data that criminals are able to get by sniffing my wi-fi traffic.

>>57591968
Rulers are benevolent. Why do you think you have hospitals, roads, and schools?

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>britcucks

We must accept that the Anglosphere is the supreme digital power and that both ends of their political spectrum will use and abuse their digital intelligence capabilities if presented with these opportunities.

We can only hope that our countries and ourselves have a good standing towards the current administration of the US and the UK.

JUST

>it's a "/g/ is totally uneducated about computer security and thinks that their cuck fetish will get exposed" episode

>>57591882
here's a good way to prevent terrorism: don't carpet bomb the middle east for several decades just for the heck of it

> muh weapons of mass destruction
> muh osama meme ladin is hiding out in this country even tho i have no fucking proof and even the CIA says there's no indication he's there let's go bomb the shit out of them oh hey theres oil there what a fucking coincidence

towelheads are cancer but the US / NATO continuously shitting on the middle east was probably the worst foreign policy blunder of the last couple decades.

no western aggression in the ME, no terrorism (at least anywhere NEAR at the scale it's happening), and no fucking migrant crisis. hell a lot of the countries there had a considerably liberal, western-leaning political climate before all this shit went down.

mass surveillance is an end-of-the-pipe solution. it solves fuck all.

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>>57592078
Please, "educate" us.

>>57590951
Fuck's sake. Fuck this shitty government.

>>57592092
War in the ME was only a way for the military industrial complex faggots to line their pockets. Also oil. They don't give a shit if you get bombed while they don't leave their mansions.

>>57592031
Because you live in a democracy. It's better to have a population who is more educated and more efficient to generate more wealth. Wealth to pay their supporters

>>57591699
What is "Slippery Slope Logic"

>>57592108
This law does nothing except shortens the length of processes that the government already do. It's not really any different from the previous laws in terms of how it affects your privacy.

At least our hardworking MPs are immune from this. As they should be.

>>57592255
as they think

>>57591140
He became a small guy.

>>57592169
go back to russia, commie

>>57591140
lmao what the fuck

what is it with politicians failing planes so often?
>german politician died parachuting out of a plane
>that UK faggot crashing but surving
>these two fat polish politicians where one of them died in a plane crash
>hillary clinton failing to enter a fucking plane without faceplanting herself

Genuinuly curious

I'm sure the government will be able see which sandniggers are up to no good (hint: all of them). But won't do anything because they don't want to be called racist.

>>57590951
>the gurardian
s.mh

>>57592347
>implying there's anything wrong with the guardian

>>57592408
It's a pro-SJW shithole.

If anything, the Guardian is more likely to be a supporter of the bill.

>>57592000
i actually am

What can I as an induvisual do about this? I'm not botherd about dying for a principle so I'm open to anything to preserve my rights.

>>57592408
It's trash

>>57592447
Use a fucking vpn

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>>57592279
When Putin finally apologizes for the Katyn massacre the fat polish guy's plane goes and crashes in a forest right after cause the retards didn't listen to the russian radar tower telling them to get altitude.
Best thing is the polacks sill blamed Putin for it.

>>57591770
They certainly scan thought a lot of it. The Met security gathers tonnes of data these days, most of it key word type of thing on people's online interactions.

If this data is a terrorism related word like bomb, plane, hijacking, Parliament and public gather it's sent on to our central security agency who will look over it and deem if it's a threat. There's probably some automatic priority system though.

Already am, but I need to do something more dangerous just to giv theez people the middle finger so I can say. NO, YOU WILL NOT CONTROL ME. I WILL NOT PLAY BY YOUR RULES. FUCK YOU

>>57592493
I had to make a project about poland once while being in school, a few months later after the poster got taken down again that guy crashed

>britain
I think you meant Airstrip One

We need to overthrow the government. We need VIOLENCE. People need to GET HURT for our rights

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>>57590951
https://www.eff.org/issues/uk-investigatory-powers-bill

https://www.dontspyonus.org.uk/blog/2016/11/17/parliament-passes-most-extreme-surveillance-law-in-uk-history/

WELP.

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>>57592584
No. We need to lick the government's boots. We want our rights violated.

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>>57592232
Nice try George Soros, but there is no progression in that post.

We
Elected
Trump

You can't get more retarded than that

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>you'll never be a britcuck

>>57592232
Legislation is a slippery slope

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>>57590951
>mfw western governments trying to reach my level of control

>>57592698
>People in london/uk still make more of a fuss about trump than this bill going through. It's self righteous shit hole here now. Pretty sure people think I'm a nazi because I don't publicly denounce brexit and think hillary is a saint and think trump eats babies.

>>57592832
Let's clarify

I don't think trump is Satan or the end of the US I'm passed we Elected a reality TV star as our president because he gave sales pitches in debates

>>57592854
I wasn't getting at anything really, no ruling party is going to change much in the grand scheme of things with the way our first world societies are set up.

I was more pointing out that in the UK people still have their knickers in a twist over brexit and trump, but no one cares about the surveillance act. I'm working in london with a group of people who are capable of critical thinking, will discuss things very well but when it comes to political issues, it's hard left all the way. Tried to start a discussion on the act recently and it was just shrugged off (probably as we're fuck busy now). But if this is how educated people in our country think, what hope in hell is there of the unwashed masses knowing and caring about this without a huge social and media campaign behind it.

>>57592854

I believe Trump was elected for a number of reasons, including

>hillary was a blatently corrupt politician
>Bernie seemed to be popular with many college students and young people, but it seemed like he got snubbed by hillary, further making her look evil
>hillary didn`t even bother to visit states like Wisconsin because she thought it was a sure win, which backfired.
>Trump, a billionare, had the appearance of being closer to the average American than hillary, who spent a good portion of her life around politics.

I supported big d donny t because he wasn`t hillary, plain and simple.

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>>57590951

>>57591649
Damn, you had to resort to that? He got you.

>Get out of EU
>Pound gets cucked and rises a bit immediately after any sound of "no brexit"
>Lose in football to Iceland
>Get even more surveillance
>Scotland wants to leave
>London wants to leave
LMAO

>>57593037
>username
>too short for anonymous
fake and gay

>>57591525
V for Vendetta is a comic book, you tard

>>57593037
>0345 not 123 spam 3333

Close but still not fooled

>the government did not have to make a single substantial concession to the privacy lobby
Yeah.. Because the party that holds the majority of parliament in the UK doesn't need to make concessions when there's a majority within the party itself.

Politics are terrible. They can do anything without substantial justification and that's how terrible laws are made. Which perpetuate terrible laws because they need to fix up the old laws.

We need a world-wide French revolution. Guillotines and everything.

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>>57593135

>>57593037
Isn't this fake? Seems pretty fake and I can't find anything online about it, besides other people posting it on 4chan.

Also, you'd think they'd call them "comments" instead of "posts", haha

>"We do have to worry about a UK Donald Trump."
The people already there are just as bad. And they just went further than autocratic societies so why not just concede that you're a tyrannical government already? It's not like there's anything opposing you.

>>57593199
I don't get it, what is this proof of? I don't think we're doubting the existence of Derbyshire.

>>57593237
>>"We do have to worry about a UK Donald Trump."
Literally
>"Who is Jeremy Clarkson"

>>57593199
That number is absolutely no where in their contact us page

>>57593037
>also relating to abusive language directed towards certain politicians
How this doesn't trigger some red flags among the people writing I don't know.
>>57593245
It shows the same number as on the paper is the point I think.

>>57593245
Not him but it looked like the other anon was doubting the phone number, he just proved that the phone number is real. Not that it proves anything, the details in the "letter" are easily checked.

>>57593037
I saw this on /pol/ earlier, I still think this is bullshit.

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>>57593294

>>57593171
>We need a world-wide French revolution. Guillotines and everything.
But that accomplished nothing. So far the only model for successful change is the one implemented in Scandinavia. Good luck getting the brits, the yanks or anyone else to agree with that.

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>>57593237
>donald trump is terrible and literally hitler

is that the truth, or just the propaganda narrative?

>>57593211
Well this site refers to it all as posts or replies. So 'comments' makes less sense. Even if we were to assume they were less thorough they'd probably still call it post as it's called posts on Facebook for instance.

Here on 4chan there's nothing to comment with regards to. Unlike YouTube or other similar sites where it's clearly comments with regards to content.

I understand the scepticism as much as the next guy but it's not completely unfeasible in the UK. They do not have the same free speech protection the US does. You can be charged with hate speech.

>>57593323
it's pretty obvious the www.4chan.org is shopped, the whole pic is blurred to hell to make unnoticeable

>>57593347
>try and help
Triggered. Why are English people so bad at English?

>>57593124
Yes, it is quite comical how it seems to be playing out just like it says.

>>57593367
We know incredibly little about his actual aims. He can't implement everything he has promised, it's simply impossible. And it's fairly unlikely that he will implement it. He has also made a large amount of uneducated comments regarding world politics. Which I find more disturbing.

But as for surveillance I'm sure he will have the same 'I just play the game' attitude he has always had. The game is just different now that he makes the laws.

So civil rights and especially press freedoms are certainly in danger.

>>57593397
I interpret it as an implication

>>57593378
I just think it wouldn't sounded more "official" with "comments" instead of "posts". The letter also doesn't somehow seem all that official, though I don't know what could've been done about that.

>>57592169
>oil
When will this fucking meme end?

US get most of its oil from Canada

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>>57593294
>>57593347

>>57593365
>accomplished nothing
It changed attitudes a great deal. Where the leaders have to fear the population to some degree. If it happens in this day and age, with the relatively good state things are in that extra measure of fear seems good.

But you're right politicians and their families being executed for their failures should be far more common place than I suggested in that comment. Measure for failure is hard to come up with but if people put some thought to it I'm sure they can come up with an appropriately bloody system.

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>>57593428
>We know incredibly little about his actual aims.
i think by "we" you mean "i"

he doesn't have to talk to the media. the only reason the media is mad that he's not talking to them is because they cucked former politicians into spilling all their secrets and then letting the media roast them alive. none of them HAD to tell the media anything, and now that trump is being alpha and not falling for their shitty memes, they're butthurt

>>57591666
They don't need to when they have the same certs and can do a mtm attack

>>57593485
Jesus fucking Christ dude. shut up. Stop pretending everyone who comments on Trump buys the obvious slander campaigns.

I'm saying we (yes we, even you) know very little about his goals because 'make America great again' doesn't exactly speak volumes. He has made many statements he actually backs on or changes. He's not a super consistent person.

But I don't criticise him compared to other politicians here. They're all like that to some degree. If you're expecting 40% tariffs (or whatever it was) on China, a literal wall among the many other things he promised you won't see them delivered in one term.

There will be some form of compromise at the very least. And again. We don't know his motives. He doesn't have a history of altruistic intent exactly.

It's hard to relate to a person who's as rich as Trump because what do you really care for at that point? I would fund research I'm interested in personally.

>>57593583
>I would fund research I'm interested in personally.
trump is interested in clean energy

>>57591770
>it will just streamline the process
This is a big deal. If you cut all the processing time of the government you will have every potential civil rights problem appear instantly because governments are currently not set up to protect the population from themselves. At least not the UK.

>>57593608
Not in the same way I am. And it's not my first focus.
Why are you trying to sell Trump to me though?

>>57593608
not because he believes in global warming, or because he cares about the environment as much as you or I do, but because he wants to create jobs, which in turn make the economy better, which makes everyone have more money.

promoting clean energy will have the effect of reducing pollution, which decreases the rate of climate change.

do his means or reasons for making progress on climate it really matter as long as he is making progress on climate change?

>>57590951
soo, is the article actually going to go into what the bill grants?

>Al this fascists pigs trying to justify violating your rights
Remember, the only good fascist is a dead fascist, implement freedoms in your community today.

>>57593656
Antifa are just as bad. They actually believe there protecting democracy by murder and violence towards anyone who thinks differently.

There's good reason left-extemism is the leaders in successful terrorist attacks according to Europol right now. (though the religiously motivated terrorism attempts/minor incidents are staggeringly high and alarmingly low in countries like Sweden)

>>57593649
nope. incentives aligning for everybody is how shit actually gets done

>>57593379
>it's pretty obvious the www.4chan.org is shopped
No it's not. take a closer look at it, the text even follows the slight bends in the paper and the text looks identical to the text surrounding it.
It's not obvious at all. I believe it.

>>57591314
>Looks like the bedroom of most university aged westerners
who do you think they are?

>>57593971
>It's not obvious at all. I believe it.
yeah cause you're mentally impaired, it's fairly easy to make the text bend along the texture on photoshop

>>57594002
You're still wrong about it being obvious, because it is definitely not.
There is literally zero proof of it being shopped.

>>57592279
There have been multiple assassination unsuccessful attempts on Nigel Farage

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>>57594017
the "w" on website is a bigger size than the ones on "www", the retard who made it didn't choose the right size, and you're also a retard who needs glasses

>>57593103
could have been a tripfag

>>57594047
no its not, they're the same size, it only looks bigger because its right next to the letter e

there is no evidence of a shop here

>>57594093
Go get glasses faggot, and on the way stop on /pol/ and don't come back

>>57594047
just the way he's holding it would make that effect happen, take you naive glasses off you shill. People get lit up all the time in europe for stupid shit like this

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>>57594047
No they're not.

>>57594106
Holy shit just kill yourself already you retarded dumbfuck.

>>57592003
>unknowingly comparing governments to criminals
You just BTFO'd yourself

>>57593367
niggers were a mistake

>>57593428
Current press is just propaganda anyway, fuck 'em