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Previously: >>57554603

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>>57565283
1. Is anyone running an alternative init system other than systemd?
2. If so, with what distro?
3. Is systemd literally an nsa backdoor?

Thanks
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>>57565314
The problems people have with systemd are not about security, it's more about its design. Systemd is free software.
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I want a unicode hostname. How to set such a thing?
If its not possible, how to make any instance of the hostname(in the shell, polkit authentication agent, etc etc) appear as some unicode
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>>57565314
yeah, openrc
gentoo linux
nope
>>57565342
>using meaningless meme gnuwords like "free software"
remove yourself from the gene pool
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>>57565365
*shitposts about shitgnu*
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>>57565365
Free software means software that respects the user's freedom.

There are four essential freedoms that the user of software should always have:

Freedom 0 is the freedom to run the program however you wish.
Freedom 1 is the freedom to study the source code of the program and change it to make the program do as you wish.
Freedom 2 is the freedom to distribute copies of the program to others when you wish. This includes republication of the program.
Freedom 3 is the freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others when you wish. This includes republication.

If you have all four of these essential freedoms, then the program is free software, which means that the social system of the distribution of the program is an ethical system that respects the freedom and community of the users.

If one of these freedoms is missing, then the program is proprietary software, meaning that it keeps the users divided and helpless, and gives the developer power over the users. This is an injustice. Proprietary software should not exist and should not be used.

If you want to have freedom, the only way you can have it while using computers is by rejecting proprietary software.
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>>57565427
didnt even read your shitpost
go die somewhere lol
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Does anyone use clang as their default compiler in Gentoo? Apart from having a gcc backup environment, anything I should be wary of?
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Has anyone taken a look at GoboLinux?

I know there are aspects of it that can look a bit offputting at first (like uppercase letters in the naming convention)
But when you get right down to it, it actually looks like their design solves tons of issues with Linux package management.

It's not a very popular distro at all though so I wonder if I'm missing something here. Is there some glaring problem with Gobo that I'm not seeing?

Is it possible for such a setup to still have dependency hell? You can install any number of different versions of applications and libraries, but it uses symlinks for backward compatibility and has a "Current" symlink for the version being used. Could GoboLinux have its own kind of dependency hell due to that fact?
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I'm made a script but it always asks for my password due to the sudo command, is there a way to have the script input it automatically?
I always have to download the library every time I start the program due to some 64 bit fuckery

The script is
#!/bin/bash

sudo apt-get install libwebkitgtk-1.0-0:i386
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/local/pulse
/usr/local/pulse/pulseUi
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>>57565487
Why not just actually run it as root?
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>>57565487
>I always have to download the library every time I start the program due to some 64 bit fuckery
That's your actual problem. Stop writing bad workarounds.
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>>57565511
Sometimes other people use the computer, so I have multiple accounts. Or is there a way to have the script always run as root?
New to Linux
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>>57565521
Well the program doesn't support 64 bits. Don't want to switch to 32 bits just because of this.
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>>57565528
If you run it at regular times you can just set it as a cron job for root
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>>57565487
>answer to the question asked
make it a setuid program.

>whole situation
what the fuck are you doing senpai
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>>57565436
I'm tempted to. Don't think anything bad should happen if you have a gcc fallback
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>>57565554
Perfect just what I was looking for!
The program doesn't support 64bits... And I'm too much of a retard to get openConnect working
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Meh, had to reinstall my system. I guess i'll try to update this time without changing the kernel.
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>>57565595
>Perfect just what I was looking for!

You should know that the setuid bit is ignored for shell scripts (all interpreted executable actually). So when I said "make it a setuid program", I really meant write a C program that calls system() for everything needed. So, uhh, bust out your K&R I guess.

Seriously though, your problem is a symptom. You should fix the actual issue, not construct crazy fuckery to work around it.
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Linux, GNU, Arch, Debian, Systemd any more words to avoid in /fglt/?
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>>57565647
sex
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>>57565647
basically any distro name
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>>57565638
Well fuck me then.
Again the problem is that the program doesn't support 64bit distros.
I'll try to get openConnect working, until then this is letting me keep working...
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>>57565629
>using this piece of shit "distro"
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>>57565671
nice meme, can I save it?
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>>57565671
>using this piece of shit "kernel"
>not using based Windows NT
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>>57565647
"BEST"
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>>57565668
What is the original problem you're trying to solve (what you "need" openconnect for)?

Why does your current solution "fix" the problem you originally posted? (you can have multiarch / different arch versions of the same library installed, as well as lock a package at a specific version so that newer versions are ignored)

Why do you need to re-install the library every time?
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>>57565709
No fucking clue why I need to reinstall the library every time.

I need this to connect to my work VPN. It's a Juniper VPN.
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>>57565724
What distribution are you running?
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>>57565745
ATM Mint. Tried it in Ubuntu but same problem.
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>>57565647
Void, Solus, Alpine, LibreSSL, Lennart, Pottering, runit, open rc, devuan
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>>57565764
First, see if this is applicable (same software?): https://askubuntu.com/questions/450369/how-to-install-juniper-vpn-on-ubuntu-14-04-lts

If not, post the output when you try to run the program and it fails.

What happens if you try to run it without re-installing that library? (why does this need to happen more than once)
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>>57565783
If I just try to run it it does
error while loading shared libraries: libpulseui.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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>>57565689
>Calling an utter pile of horsecrap "kernel"
>Being in /g/ and admitting to be a wintoddler
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>>57565314
>>57565342
>>57565365
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/
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>tfw i use manjaro and literally nothing you do can stop me
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>>57565868
nice fud
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/454246967124963328
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>>57565955
Enjoy the distro you are most comfy with, anon
>>57565868
See picture
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>tfw i'm fucking retarded and nothing you do can stop me
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>>57566181
パちパちパち
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Huh, something strange happened when I upgraded to debian sid.
tty1 just sits on a blinking cursor forever and accepts no input, but all the others work fine.
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>>57566212
i think i just got cancer from yur post
please fucking delete it before someone suffers the same fate
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>>57566247
no, the deserve every bit of radiation they get from it, 네가.
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>>57566280
>using gookspeak
god
please stop before i literally get aids via the internet machines
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>>57565283
Is Antergos a good distro?
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>>57566300
enjoy your aids
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>>57566309
stupid gook
get off this japanese website
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>>57566306
its shite
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>>57566328
Why?
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>>57566320
ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ I will.
enjoy your trigger.
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>>57566335
it has no reason to exist
its like a fucken gnutard
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>>57566337
leave this japanese website
stop defiling it with your ugly gook presence
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>>57566344
>it has no reason to exist

I still don't get it.
Why do you think it has no reason to exist?
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>>57566355
i am obligated to stay if you continue responding.
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>>57566359
it literally has no reason for existence when arch (also shite) exists
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@57566368
fine by me
just don't use gook "letters"
japanese and traditional chinese is also fine
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>>57566372
Yeah, one could say Antergos is just an Arch installer.

And why do you think Arch is "shite"?
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@57566381
How about 'no'?
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< `∀´> kill all jap
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>>57566384
yeah, literally no reason to exist as i have stated earlier
it has a piece of shit as its packaging "philosophy"
it has ratarded """"'"""""devs""""'""""
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>>57566411
>m-muh quotes
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>>57566411
>autsim
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This is the most cancerous general on /g/ I hope each and every one of you gets raped my niggers and commits suicide.
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>>57566407
kys yourself zainichi piece of garbage lol
>>57566415
>muh
>anime stuttering
remove yourself from the gene pool 'mate'
>>57566432
what's your fucking point?
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>>57566433
>my
by*

I think you also have a cuck fetish.
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>>57566433
>my
by my*
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>>57566433
what if i'm an undead nigger?
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>>57566455
>un dead
so your alive?
lol!
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>>57566438
see >>57566433
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>>57566460
define 'un dead'
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>>57566463
see >>57566438 (2nd part starting from "remove")
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>>57566474
>y-you too
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>>57566440
>>57566449
>>57566455
>>57566463
Fucking phone keyboard.
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>>57566472
un - http://dictionary.com/browse/un-
dead - http://dictionary.com/browse/dead
negate dead ---> life
so your alive
>>57566483
i hate you
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>>57566438
>what's your fucking point?
Ur mum XDDDDDD
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>>57566484
no ones judging you famine, but you better get raped my niggers and commits suicide too.
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>>57566492
death*
Fucking laptop keyboard.
>>57566495
lol! didn't see that one coming haha!
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>>57566492
>http://dictionary.com/browse/un-dead
>adjective
>no longer alive but animated by a supernatural force, as a vampire or zombie.
cool, cool
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>>57566516
that doesn't make sense 'mate'
it just does not make sense that un + dead would be something dead
it just means your alive
this dictionary is obviously a fake!
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>>57566521
oh kewl, kewl
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>>57566525
define 'kewl kewl'
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>>57565314
https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S57187361#p57187701
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>>57566528
export kewl='kewl'
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whats up youtube
just wanted to make a video today discussing why i choose to use arch linux
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>>57566543
please do. better yet, someone make a mumble server or something where we can fight
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>>57566498
T-thanks y-y-ou too
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>>57566543
>This is CIA
>Today I'll teach you how to install Arch Linux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fBIeKQSiAc
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>>57566592
wow
he's room is cool!
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>>57566592
I miss spatry. RIP in piece.
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>>57566703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fBIeKQSiAc
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How to deal with MS trolls?
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>>57565361

Why?
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>>57565647

lightweight
fast
user-friendly
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>>57566592
>that stance
>those clothes

No fucking way.
Lotta loyalty for a hired Arch!
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What's a fast and lightweight distribution of GNU plus Linux? I've tried Arch and Debian so far. Preferably something a little more user friendly then Arch and without Systemd please.
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My favorite DE is GNOME 3. What's the best distro for it? Ubuntu's software center is buggy on busy networks, Fedora's live environment gave me errors whenever I tried to install ANYTHING, Debian's packages are too outdated, and openSUSE... well, I'd love to try it out, but it doesn't seem to have a live environment. Plus, I wouldn't know whether to go Leap or Tumbleweed. Should I just suck it up and install Arch?
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>>57566306

Yes it is.

Don't get fooled by butthurt Arch guys that weep in silence because now you can install Arch without that stupid "no pain, no gain" philosophy. Just ignore them.
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>>57567034
If you want a more user-friendly Arch, use Antergos (or Manjaro).

If you want a more user-friendly Debian, use Ubuntu (or Linux Mint).

>fast and lightweight

Use them with lxde or xfce.
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>>57567044
>implying you can't hate antergos by proxy if you hate the shite that is arch since it's literally arch with an installer
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Two questions:
Is Linux going to be kill with Microsoft joining the Linux Foundation? (Embrace, Extend, Extinguish)
If so, is GNU/BSD a better alternative than GNU/Linux in that case?
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>>57567096
>implying your implication implicates anything
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>>57567113
>implying my implication doesn't imply that you think like a kid in that you automatically assume someone hating on a derivative of something is a fan of the 'original' so to speak
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>>57567110
Microsoft is a platinum member and there are other more well paying members.
Also, Linux is GPL so it can be forked.
I don't see Micosoft extinguishing Linux, they contributed to the Linux project for a while now.
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>>57567110
YES!
linex is gonna become proprietary now :((
>>57567140
shut up! its gonna become proprietary! fucken corporations!
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>>57567110
>GNU/
>BSD
literally throw yourself off a building
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>>57567035
Arch is pretty darn simple with GNOME, my man
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>>57567159
how dare you?
shouldn't you be spreading the good word about the best de out there also known as KDE also known as the K Desktop Environment?
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>>57567159
Define "simple." Easy to install? Barebones? Easy to manage? Also, since it doesn't look like Arch has a software center, I'll have to use the command line to install software. I get how it's easy to install stuff if you know the package name, but what if you just want to browse? Where can I go to learn more about browsing repos with command-line package managers?

>>57567195
KDE is too slow on my machine. It can do everything I like about GNOME, but GNOME does it more elegantly. Yes, KDE has more customization, but GNOME has all the customization I need.
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>>57567155
Ideally I would've gone with GNU/HURD, but I want a USABLE SYSTEM.
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>>57567195
I don't disrespect GNOME, I just think they lack features. Plus they use the inferior, walled garden of gtk technology.

GNOME devs never listen. K devs do sometimes.

>>57567214
I meant vanilla. Fresh off the oven with no tweaks enabled.
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>>57567214
>since it doesn't look like Arch has a software center

They should create one, really.
Why not?
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>>57567223
>using GNU anything
>not using GNU as a pejorative
>thinking that GNU has anything worthwhile except gdb
>thinking that the words "GNU" and "usable system" together are somehow even a remote possibility
literally throw yourself off a building
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>>57567313
I'm using the Linux version of GNU. Not him btw
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I have an intel N3050 cpu wich has a boost clock speed of up to 2.16 GHz
how can i easily check the clockspeed or adjust it to use the boost or not ? xubuntu 16
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Debian Stable with GNOME. Today's Firefox ESR + other stuff update. Stuff crashes for no reason, can anyone confirm?

>>>/pol/99094490

Go to this post and open the archived link in a new tab without switching to it, does your DE crash every single time you try? This used to happen to me before but it was never reproducible, this time I tried it a couple dozen times and it crashed every single one.
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>>57567466
>Debian ""Stable""
Found your problem
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I'm learning about remote login.
I'm currently using x2go to forward screens, but apparantly I can just login on my remote server.
The arch wiki says something about xdmcp, how well does it work?
Is it slower/faster than x2go?
Are there better alternatives perhaps?
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>>57567641
I'm using arch if it matters.
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>>57567663
Whoa! so am i! That's awesome; You're awesome!
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>>57567900
>>57567663
Why are you both destroying my hope of getting an answer?
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By all rights, my keyboard layout should be English (US). No other layout comes anywhere close to what I actually have. The Ubuntu installer's "detect keyboard" feature even gave me English (US). The key above my Enter key and below my Backspace key has a backslash and a pipe character on it. But no matter what Linux distro I use, when I try to type the \ and |, they end up as < and >. This is the only key on my keyboard that doesn't work as it should. What gives? Is there a way to fix this, or will I have to find a way to remap that one key?
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>>57567279
>>57567214
>Also, since it doesn't look like Arch has a software center,

It has pacman frontends:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=Pacman/Tips_and_tricks&redirect=no#Graphical_front-ends

>but what if you just want to browse?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/
 pacman -Ss <keyword> 
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I know this doesn't strictly belong in this thread but it seems like a good bunch of people to ask

Is buying a curved, 3440x1440, 21:9 monitor a good idea? The extra realestate seems like it would help to make multitasking a lot more efficient, not to mention I'm a big fan of high DPI displays in general (Apple's rMBP have pretty nice looking displays).

But I'm planning on switching to GNU/Linux for a number of reasons and I'm worried scaling issues might be very finicky to deal with. Not to mention there's quite a lack of native 21:9 content so media consumption, although amazing with the extra pixels, might be shit with the black bars.

Does anyone have experience with a similar display that could give me a little insight on what the experience is like?
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>>57568340
Tried installing Arch, couldn't even get it connected to the Internet. Maybe I'll try again once my Linux experience extends beyond the Debian family.
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>>57568350
Usually the wireless doesn't work out of the box on most distros, but if you hardwire to your router/modem it works like 99.99% of the time. If THAT doesn't work for some rare reason, download the package from another computer via:

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/

and then use pacman to install it of whatever media you downloaded it to:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/offline_installation_of_packages
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>>57568362
I'm doing it on a laptop without an Ethernet port.
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>>57568375
>laptop without an Ethernet port

That.... that sounds awful. What model is that?
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>>57568423
Lenovo Thinkpad something something. Got it a few years ago. I have a new laptop now, so I'm using this one as a Linux test machine. Once I find the One Perfect Distro with this laptop, I intend to dual-boot it with Win10 on my current one.
Currently putting openSUSE on it to see how it goes.
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"-Anon, you only use software that respects your freedom, right? Chad uses a Mac, ugh!"
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>>57568460
>thinkpad that doesn't have an ethernet jack

Upon googling it seems that there are chromebooks with the "thinkpad" branding.

"let's take a line of laptops known for being a working man's machine and make a glorified tablet with it"

Fuck Lenovo, seriously. Sorry, I went on bit of a tangent there.
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>>57568518
This thing came with Win8 on it, though. It's a Yoga, if that helps. It's given me no end of hardware issues over the years, annoying me greatly. When I first came to /g/ and saw how much everyone loves Thinkpads, I thought, "You people are out of your damn minds." But apparently most Thinkpads are actually good.
I bought this computer at a time when I thought getting computers from Best Buy was a good idea, though, so maybe I deserved what I got.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Does Ubuntu MATE has non-free software installed by default?
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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>>57568606
Most definitely. Ubuntu is the botnet of Linux distros.
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I've got a question lads, when you download/install something on GNU/Linux you generally go through the whole

sudo pacman "nameOfPackage"

process. Is there any simple way you can get a list of all possible packages, a quick summary and the name you use in "nameOfPackage?"
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>>57568494
"-Haha who the fuck cares about that shit? It's no secret that apple makes the best products."
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>>57568619
It's the only distro I find visually pleasing.
..reeee..
>>
Are there any programs like MSI Afterburner for linux?
Programs to manage GPU frequency, or change powersaving stuff in the CPU - without requiring a commandline.

>>57568691
>Unity
>visually pleasing
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>>57568552
Thinkpad is a meme, imo. It USED to be okay back in the IBM days, but lenovo chinked it up over the years.

My guess is you're probably going to have to manually install the drivers (still using the package manager, just offline) for just about any distro.

>>57568668
pacman is arch specific, but if you run pacman -Ss it will output all the packages. It will show <repo>/<name> with a short description afterwards. The <name> is what you'd type into pacman.

Not sure that will be helpful in practice, though. Generally if you're looking for a program, you look on the arch wiki for what you want.
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>>57568757
Makes sense, just looked at the Arch Wiki and they have a searchable database of all their packages which is cool, not sure how much of a description they give though.

I've seen people install a package on Linux and then just almost habitually bring up the 'help page' for the package through command line. Any idea what this is? Feel like it might come in handy if you install something but aren't too sure how to use it/configure it

Also what's the difference between i686 and x86_64, isn't the latter referring to 64 bit systems? Meaning the first might be 32 bit systems?
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I only know the apt-get install command. Should I try Arch just to learn linux the hard way?
I hate every distro. None have the software I want pre-installed and/or the DE I like.
Should I do it?
>>
Did they really name a penguin after a fucking distro?
>>
>>57568823
 man <program> 

you can start with:
 man man 


> Meaning the first might be 32 bit systems?

32 bit x86, yes. It's like that for historical reasons (and because the intel instruction set naming is a bit fucky and ill defined)

>>57568889
Never know if you don't try. Helps if you know what you like first, though. Biggest issue with arch is teething issues with new installs (aka "oh shit, i forgot I use that, better install"). Arch tends to be bare minimum packages for DE, so you have to install parts of it you want. You can get around this by installing the whole group of packages. For example, I installed gnome, so I had to put "pacman -S gnome gnome-extra" for it to be the same as most other distros with just "gnome". This is benifitial if you're the kind of person who doesn't want most of the stuff in gnome-extra (calendar, mail, file roller, games, etc), but you'll have to pull in what you want if you do that.
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>>57568964
I forgot to add that you can search using "/" once you have a manual open, and use "n" to go to next occurrence and "shift+N" to go back. Not sure if man man covers that.
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>>57565283
Do we have a Discord channel?
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> Digital Exam
> requires Winblows 7 or MacOS
> try to use a kvm, gives me error on program can't be run in virtualization.

Is there a way to hide the fact I'm using virtualization? I'm using KVM/QEMU.
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>>57569476
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>>57565314
I'm running OpenRC because I'm on Gentoo.
Also thought about trying out s6 or runit, but currently stopped by the fact I will have to write all the daemon scripts and dependencies myself. Or at least a huge part of them.
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>>57569918
Is it possible to minimize windows in i3? Float them around?
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>>57570019
Not sure how it's connected to what I posted, and I run Awesome for my wm.
But thankfully I was trying out sway not long ago, so I do know a bit about i3.
I think you can explicitly make a window floating/setup your config to make certain windows floating, and then move it with usual Meta+mouse.
Minimizing is substituted by scratchpad or stacked/tabbed layouts, I think, if by minimizing you mean "get the window out of the way but don't close it".
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>>57570116
My bad, meant to reply to OP. I'll try that, thanks.
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>>57565283
How to change the background of midnight commander?
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I want emoji in my hostname but debian says its illegal help
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>>57570298
It's not allowed by the standard (thank god):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostname

Also, exit bag yourself in a timely fashion.
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Any way to get a pop up or album up with mpd+ncmpcpp?

using openbox with tint2
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>>57570201
F9 > [O]ptions > [A]ppearance
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>>57570931
possibly mpDris2 and a media applet that supports dbus
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hey , installed xubuntu desktop environment and i like it but i cant use the shortcut super+d to go to the desktop . any solution to enable this shortcut
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>>57570407
OK, then how do I make any instance of my hostname "100" appear as the emoji?
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>>57571350
ctrl+alt+d is the default
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>>57571423
Apart from rewriting source code I'm not sure you can. It's generally not a wanted feature for an address to look like what it isn't, unless you're Ƭ̵̬̊.
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>>57565283
I was wondering if I should install Archbang or Antergos+Openbox
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>>57571755
antergos, but the openbox config it gives you with is complete shit, so be prepared to do a lot of extra tweaking.
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why are all manpages I read "written for the debian project" and none for the arch project?
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>>57571900
Debian is old.
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>>57571900
Arch is a meme, developed by some weebs, did you expect them doing any work?
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>>57571919
I thought arch is /g/'s preferred distro
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>>57571983
That's Gentoo
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>>57571983
he's just kidding.
But in all seriousness, arch is only a distro you should be using if you are alright with having to learn how to fix many errors and shit. It is very much an advanced distro, and there's nothing wrong with not wanting that.
If you want something easier I would recommend trying out antergos, which is basically arch with a gui installer that sets everything up for you.
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I'm using porteus, how do i bluetooth?
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>>57572080
install solus
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>>57572123
>install solus
Seriously, what's going on with that EXTREME solus shilling lately???
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>>57572191
it isn't shilling.
It's the best distro.
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Can I get a rundown on sysmd on weather its good or bad so I know if I should get a sticker for it?
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>>57572080
>firstly, you'll need correct kernel modules compiled or loaded.
>then, install bluez5 (for pulseaudio) or bluez4 (for alsa), dependencies should be pulled in.
>verify that your BT transceiver is detected by
 hciconfig -a

>run bluez configure BT
>connect to devices
>done

>>57572237
oh shit, systemd does weather now!?
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>>57571983
No, i can tell because i am in fact the famous /g/.
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My GNOME tweak tool isn't changing icons when selected, all icons are stored in /usr/share/icons as usual and are detected by the tweak tool but upon selection nothing happens.

Is this a 3.22 bug?
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>>57572361
>Is this a 3.22 bug?

Not that I'm aware of. I'm on 3.22.1 and mine are working fine.
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>>57572419
Thank you for the response, must be an individual issue with my system.
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>>57572425

Try logging out and logging in.
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Why is customizing GTK themes outside of a DE such a pain in the ass?
Is it because of the gnome devs or something?
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>>57572469
It's because some programs use GTK2 and some use 3. You need themes for both.
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where can i learn and get documented on linux CPU scaling governors for AMD and intel?
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>>57572510
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cpu-freq/governors.txt
that was easy
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How do I make an "image" of my Fedora install so that when I install fedora next time I have all my stuff installed?
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>>57572191
Kevinposting
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>>57571983
>>57572001
/g/'s prefers windows, just look at the catalog newfags
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For some reason, I am unable to expand the size of sda7(ubuntu) and sda5(mint). I originally installed both at the same time just to test them out and ended up falling in love with ubuntu. I don't really get why I can't expand the size of sda7 though. Also, sda1 & 2 are both reserved for w10. I've tried formatting that unallocated space to ext4 and attempted to remove space from the mint partition to give it to ubuntu and that didn't work either. What gives?
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>>57572611
thanks a bunch
now i got a question
im trying to setup cpufreqd to High Performance mode wich i edited to be "100%" of the clockspeed. but now how do i choose that profile? ive been reading the manual and the different cpufreqd commands but i dont fully understand how to pick the profile. tried "cpufreqd -f"
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>>57565283
What is your favorite linux distro,/g/?
And why?
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>>57572837
4.8, because it's the newest
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>>57572837
Linux-libre because freedom.
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>>57572837
It depends on who you ask. There are a lot of people that come to linux for freedoms and tinfoil reasons. Those people usually use something like Arch or a complicated distro to setup like gentoo.

Some people lost their windows subscription and don't want to torrent. These people are probably on Mint Cinnamon.

I really like Ubuntu because I feel like it's the most well made of the bunch for everyday use in university and programming. I also like the aesthetic of it.
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>>57572809
You can't expand 'backwards'
Move the partion you want to extend to the left of the free space. This will take quite a while. After gparted is done doing that you can extend the partition.

Alternatively, use lvm next time.
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>>57572837
xubuntu because i dont actually use linux fulltime and i cant be bothered to learn something else now
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>>57572837
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>57572892
Actually I am an idiot. You will have to move the whole extended (sda3) partition, extend it, then move the logical partitions around until the free space is where you want it.
Yes it's annoying but there's no easy way around it.
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>>57572914
this
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>>57572809
You could just format the free space as ext4 and mount it to wherver, like /home.
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How to create a webm screencast with decent quality but low filesize? Anyone wants to share his script?
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>>57572914
I thought it was Systemd/Linux now. Or as I've recently taken to calling it, Systemd plus Linux
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I'm sitting on Manjaro with Cinnamon and i played with the thought to move on to KDE because of working widgets and supposedly better customization.
There's one thing that really bothers me though I would like to have the date show up with a custom format but the lock-screen options in KDE don't give me the option for it unlike in Cinnamon.
I guess it can be done in some config? a pointer would be appreciated
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>>57572969
#!/bin/sh -e

if [ $# -eq 6 ]
then
ffmpeg -y -ss $2 -i "$1" -vf scale=-2:$4 -an -sn -c:v libvpx -threads 4 -quality best -b:v $5k -pass 1 -f webm -t $3 /dev/null
ffmpeg -ss $2 -i "$1" -vf scale=-2:$4 -an -sn -c:v libvpx -threads 4 -quality best -b:v $5k -pass 2 -t $3 "$6-$4p-$5k.webm"
else
echo "usage: $(basename "$0") FILE START LENGTH RESOLUTION BITRATE NAME" >&2
false
fi
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>>57572829
i'd assume its default is set in the kernel's .config
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_POWERSAVE is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_ONDEMAND is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_CONSERVATIVE is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_SCHEDUTIL is not set
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=m
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE=m
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>>57572952
the option to mount is grayed out for some reason.
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Ok I have seriously fucked up.
I had wine staging installed on Ubuntu.
Wanted to try PlayOnLinux and followed the instructions on their website and installed the 32 bit version on top of the 64 bit.
Accidentally used the line meant for debian
sudo dpkg --add-i386
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install wine:i386

then decided to just run the ubuntu line
sudo echo "foreign-i386 architecture"> /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install wine:i386

and then installed PlayOnLinux.

Now I whenever I try to run the Battle.net installer, I get an error message like pic related. Does anyone know how to do a fresh restart with my wine other than reinstalling the OS?
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>>57573084
where are the results of the first pass stored or how does the second pass get the infos about the first pass?
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>>57573377
>
sudo echo 

Don't do this because it desn't work.
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>>57573471
The first pass create a log file in the folder. The second pass use it.
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>>57573084
Thanks.
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>>57565283
What is /g/'s opinion on kubuntu?
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>>57574078
last time I Tried it it was a mess, since its version of KDE hadnt been un-fucked nearly as much as the lastest ones.
Maybe some other release of it will have a nice and stable version of KDE.
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>>57574078
Greatest distro i've ever used, would use it again. Literally nothing beats it. i'm just saying this for a countering opinion.
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>>57569701
Get virtualbox. It just works.
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>>57574197
>It just works.
>>>/trash/
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Hi,

at work we work on Debian workstations which are not directly connected to the internet. I tried to upgrade from Python 2.7.3 to 2.7.12 the other day, but it required newer versions of libc and gcc to be installed.

I managed to download a couple of the dependencies that are near the top, libc, gcc and so on. However, I tried to use tools like wireshark, python and apt-get and each time it says:

/lib/x86.../libc.so (6) is 2.38 but requires 2.4 by /lib/.../gcc0


Now it is not possible to move the device any way closer to the internet to repair, and there is no way I can snapshot it. I was wondering what anyone could advise that I do in this situation, I don't know what the previous version of stuff were that I installed on top of - nor do I have faith that I will be able to install every single dependency?

Should I try and downgrade or just go with it?

I am now fully aware why upgrading these things can break a machine, so there's no need for any of that
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>>57574496
>Should I try and downgrade or just go with it?
That should be your first step, to return the machine to the "previous working configuration".

If you need a specific python version for fucking around on a sideproject you could compile it to a separate directory with the newer version of libc statically linked.

What you're basically trying to achieve is a Windows/Mac style of installation that's self-contained with all it's libraries in a single directory.

Sorry mate, but I'm not going to walk you through the process since I never actually compiled python but everything I've mentioned is achievable, you should just need to take a look around the internet.

You don't actually have to connect the machine to the net to achieve it, such installation can be prepared easily on a different machine with proper tools
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>>57574496
>>57574619
One useful term I forgot to mention (which should be helpful in your research on "how" to achieve what you want) is static binary.

the option in gcc is -static, look it up in the manpage
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I just got a free 1TB WD external hd.

It says for Mac on it. Do normal one snot work with mac or whatever?

It works fine on linux and I am guessing windows. Or is that just a marketing thing for dummies
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>>57574812
>Or is that just a marketing thing for dummies
Exactly.
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>>57573377
So nobody knows how to reset the libraries for wine?
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>>57574834
Yeah well I just formatted it. So, all is well now. It has 130gb of bloatware.
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>>57574619
Yeah, but that's the thing though. Is there any way I can try and trace the changes that I've made to fuck it up, and what things I've updated and overwritten.

I've had a look in the bash history but for some reason the commands I've used have vanished.

The thing is, I'm not trying to compile anything. I simply just type python for an interactive shell and it spits an error, same goes for Nmap, Wireshark and so on. I don't need to compile these on each occasion I use them so I don't understand albeit I appreciate the help, how the static flag would help.
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>>57574885
rm -Rf ~/.wine
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>>57574885
already removed everything in ~/.wine. problem persists
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>>57574959
remove everything found by
find "$HOME" -iname \*wine\*
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>>57574496
\help
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>>57572837
fedora,
>why
I just like yum/dnf.
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>>57565283
--aur or -a command will not work.

>cannot us pacman -Syua
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>>57575903
>arch
what is wrong with you
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>>57575903
pacman does not touch aur. you need a aur script, such as pacaur
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is there any linux (xubuntu)terminal command that changes the already installed input entry text for example change from english to french cause my language plugins just dont work
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>>57576090
no
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>>57576143
fuck , now ill just have to use virtual online keyboards instead of offline ones
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>>57576090
try setxkbmap
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>>57575277
downgrade
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Setting up Arch on an old ThinkPad and every time I type "/etc/hostname/" I get "zsh: permission denied: /etc/hostname"

I'm root, anyone know the problem?
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>>57576387
/etc/hostname is not a command.

it's a path to a file
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>>57576090
http://askubuntu.com/questions/63178/how-to-set-up-keyboard-layout-switching-and-indication-in-xubuntu
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>>57576387
>arch
>zsh
>no any idea what you are doing
why is this so common?
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>>57576387
>arch
The problem is right there.
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>>57576387
>Not using systemd
Are you NEET?
#hostbamectl set-hostname gondolaXDD
>>
What distro should I use for a server? I currently have Debian but it is starting to shit itself due to me installing everything wrong because I don't know enough to know which guides are for older builds.

Currently thinking Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, but how does it rate for tinfoil-ness?
>>
>>57576856
Debian stable.
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>>57576856
BSD
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>>57576856
gentoo
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XFCE or KDE on my T420 running Debian Testing
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>>57576906
BSD is not a distro
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Can someone explain to me exactly what is the difficult part of package management?

I just read that binaries in Linux actually do link to specific versions of libraries. I didn't think that was the case but apparently it's only the linker that uses those symlinks like "lib.so -> lib-2.1.so" while the actual binary will just link to lib-2.1.so

So why is dependency hell even a thing? If I have a binary that needs version 1 of a lib then why not just install version 1 of that lib alongside whatever other versions I have? My linker can still follow the symlinks to the "preferred" version 2 or whatever, and all my binaries should be directly linked to exactly which version they need.

Where is the issue? Why do distros break after a while, or when upgrading to new major versions? Why are there dependency conflicts if not for lib versions?
I don't get it.
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>>57577016
it isn't
you just picked a shit distro with a shit package manager
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>>57577043
But I'm using Gentoo anon-sama

I still only have 1 version of any library on my system at a time and if I try to install something that needs a different version I have to resolve the conflict first. It doesn't install multiple versions
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>>57577076
>portage
>not shit
lol
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>>57576958
KDE is the only reasonable DE
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>>57577103
Why is it that every time I bring up this issue it seems to attract the least educated people.

What does the specific package manager have to do with the issue being discussed?

Are you telling me you have multiple versions of libraries in your /lib* directories?

Here I'll make it easy for you so you don't get confused by all the different colors in there.
Type this to see a list of your libraries without the symlinks and tell me if you have anything that differs by only a version string:
>find /lib/ -maxdepth 1 ! -type l
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>>57577133
Ok so I just realized there are different versions located in /usr/lib
So disregard that post I'm a faggot.

Still not sure why other distros like Ubuntu are said to break all the time though.
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Linux vulnerability leaves top sites wide open to attackers

https://www.rt.com/usa/355558-linux-vulnerability-websites-attacks/

"A flaw in the Linux operating system lets hackers inject malware into downloads and expose the identities of people using anonymizing software such as Tor – even for those who aren’t using Linux directly.

In a Wednesday presentation at the USENIX Security Symposium in Austin, Texas, researchers with the University of California, Riverside showed that the flaw lies in the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) used by Linux since late 2012.

The networking blunder is present in the Linux kernel, the core of its operating system, and can be exploited by malicious actors to determine whether two systems are communicating with each other, and even inject malicious data into or break their connection.

At the symposium, the researchers demonstrated the exploit by injecting code into a live USA Today page that asks visitors to enter their emails and passwords, which was possible because pages on USA Today aren’t encrypted.
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>>57577697
>linux
>hackers
confirmed tech illiterate article
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>>57577697
>"A flaw in the Linux operating system lets hackers inject malware into downloads and expose the identities of people using anonymizing software such as Tor – even for those who aren’t using Linux directly.
So they discovered Javascript? Not a Linux problem.
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>>57577697
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>>57577803
Yes you can basically remove " linux operating system" and add "modern web" to it instead
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>>57577697
>Riverside showed that the flaw lies in the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) used by Linux since late 2012
luckily windows is not attected, since it's using botnet instead of tcp
>>
General opinions on Elementary OS?
>>
>not available in your country
Any good webproxy recommendations?
>>
>>57578034
Ubuntu clone with a DE that has even less functionality (and theme compatibility) than Gnome-Shell.
>>
I'm now an expert on linux hibernation bugs and VGA passthrough. Ask me anything.
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>>57565283
Does anyone ITT use Solus?
>>
>>57578645
give me a couple of medium tier build on VGA passthrough. I'll add this to OP.
>>
I'm still trying to set up mpd as a systemd user service on a new machine and for some reason it's not working even though the same set up did on the last machine.

I have /home/me/.config/systemd/user/mpd.service but when I do 'systemctl --user enable mpd.service' it gives me 'Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory'.

The service can be started with 'systemctl --user start mpd.service' but it fails when trying to enable it.

This is the service file:

Description=Music Player Daemon
After=network.target sound.target

User=me

[Service]
EnvironmentFile=/etc/default/mpd
ExecStart=/usr/bin/mpd --no-daemon $MPDCONF

# allow MPD to use real-time priority 50
LimitRTPRIO=50
LimitRTTIME=infinity

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
Also=mpd.socket
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>>57578645
Have a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga that came with WIn8, and Win10's sleep and hibernation features always used to put it in a coma. Will Ubuntu's be any different?
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>>57578725
Use this
[Unit]
Description=Music Player Daemon
After=network.target sound.target

[Service]
ExecStart=/usr/bin/mpd --no-daemon

# allow MPD to use real-time priority 50
LimitRTPRIO=50
LimitRTTIME=infinity

[Install]
WantedBy=default.target
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>>57572809
you can only extend a partition to the "right"
to make sda5-7 take up the unallocated space, you'll need to;
1. shift sda3 to the left (slow)
2. resize sda3 to the end of the disk (after the shift, the unallocated space will be on the right)
3. shift/resize sda5-6 to suit

you will need to do this from a livecd, as you can't shift a partition which is mounted
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>>57578687
Pretty much any medium tier build that uses a modern intel CPU with vt-d support (in other words, virtually all medium tier builds) is good to go. I recommend 16GB ram so you can give 8GB to the VM if you want to keep it running 24/7 while still using the rest of the system, but that's not necessary (and you could be using virtio-balloon to add/remove memory in the guest as needed anyway).
Only other caveat I can think of is that nvidia hates it when you use their GPUs for vga passthrough if it's not a quadro so you have to use kvm=off (hide kvm signature, not disabling kvm), but there's no guarantee that this will be enough in 5 years, say.
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>>57578759
Depends on several factors, including hardware. It could be simply that the CPU's power saving function is fucking shit up (there may be an option to disable that in your bios, it could be called CPU cstate or C1E or something like that). It could also be a windows-specific bug, but I'm not a windows expert. I did have an old latitude E5400 that would do nothing but BSOD when trying to resume under windows, but had 0 issues with any linux distro.
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>>57578762
That seems to be working, thank you. Why does that one work and the other not? I guess it must be $MPDCONF not set properly?
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>>57576387
>anyone know the problem?
you
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>>57578814
>$MPDCONF
You dont have anything telling it what $MPDCONF is or where to find it
>>
Why is VLC unable to play matroska files on my x201? The video will open and play the first second or two, but then the video will pause while the audio keeps playing. running OpenSUSE if that makes a difference
>>
>>57579094
>current year
>vlc
get mpv senpai
>>
I've just bought a laptop with this graphics
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GK107GLM [Quadro K2000M]
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
Resolution: [email protected]
GLX Renderer: Quadro K2000M/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 367.57
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>>57579271
My sides!
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>>57579271
oops, didn't mean to post that.
I'm using the nvidia drivers which I don't know what the fuck I'm going in this area. Should I be using it? I don't know what I'm supposed to me gaining one way or the other.
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>>57567223
>implying GNU tools are better than their BSD equivalents
>implying one would use BSD with GNU userland
Just off yourself
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>>57579220
thank you base MPV shill anon
>>
>need to reset plasma for my user
>have to go to 3 seperate paths to delete everything
why is kde using horcrux instead of a central config directory!?
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>>57567110
>GNU/BSD
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
WHY NOT TRY WINDOWS/OSX WHILE YOU'RE AT IT HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Also FreeBSD is literally an NSA botnet
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>>57579548
>NSA botnet
>>
>>57579611
>not knowing le NSA botnet meme refers to NSA snooping and not actually a botnet
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>>57579548
Your picture says literally nothing about FreeBSD being NSA botnet, fellow illiterate.
>HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>>/9gag/
>>
>>57579831
>not knowing le NSA botnet meme refers to NSA snooping and not actually a botnet
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>>57579835
>never said pic related
>you assume pic related
>/out/
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Are there anyway to run VM from USB flash drive/ external HDD in linux?
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>>57579835
Honestly I just posted the FreeBSD = NSA cause I'm thinking of switching to it and I wanted to see if /g/ agreed or not
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>>57579862
Of course. Those devices can be mounted anywhere in the filesystem and basically as far as most of your system is concerned might as well all be one single disk.
>>
>>57579862
no
>>
Are there any portable / single executable virtual machine application in linux?
>>
>>57579943
no
>>
>>57579968
Will it be wise to run portable VB/qemu in wine then?
>>
>>57579943
no

doesn't virtualization require a kernel module?
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>>57579943
>>>/a/
>>
>>57579979
no
>>
cute thread: >>57579989
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>>57579980
>doesn't virtualization require a kernel module?
http://www.vbox.me/
Then booting from USB flash drive is a feature in qemu?
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>>57579981
yes
>>
I'm trying to compile a perl program

$perl ./program.pl

but nothing is happening, no error no output, nothing. I'm on a fresh debian jessie install
>>
So I'm fairly new to GNU/Unix. The most experience I have with it is an old version of Ubuntu and a class on UNIX that was required for CompSci.

I wanna install Arch. I know it's supposedly tough, but what's tough about it? Is the installer bare bones? Is it hard to configure for simple personal use? Does it have dependency hell?

Also, how would I go about setting up an ssh so I can use ConnectBot on my phone to mess with it while I'm out?

Apologies for the obvious noob/uninformed questions.
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>>57579980
Only for hardware virt.
>>
>>57583660
It is hard to keep it for more than a couple of days without it breaking on its own.
>>
Every time I log out and back in my wallpaper goes back to the default one. I've added this to the i3 file but it doesn't work.

exec_always feh --bg -scale /home/tachikoma/image/Wallpapers/1474543525719.png


See anything wrong with it? I use feh for the wallpaper app.
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>>57584912
The space between the image modifier doesn't exist in the original config file. It was a typo
>>
>>57576287
How do I downgrade? How do I know what Deb packages I've fucked and where do I get the out of date one?
>>
>>57585184
Please
apt-get: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6)


THis is the error message I get, if I were to copy libstdc++.so.6 from another device (which should roughly be the same version) and replace it, would this solve the problem?
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>>57585822
Install gentoolibc
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>>57585913
Fuck off, prick
>>
>>57585923
Uninstall ubugu
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Hey /g/, What's the best tape to cover webcam and microphones on a gnu/linux laptop?
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