/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Got 3000 euro budget to spend on a phone, laptop combo. I want to go all out GNU/linux. Im looking for atleast 1080p, touchscreen is Nice, but not required. Has to have 4 cores not hyperthreaded, if that's still possible on a laptop. GPU doesn't really matter since I won't be playing games on the thing. Storage capacity doesn't really matter either, I've got servers for that.
Something sleek, stealthy and with a nice keyboard is what I need. Also light is a big plus.

>>57530957
Asked this in the last thread, didn't get an answer.
I was planning on getting the t460 or t460s this black friday or cyber monday. What's /g/'s verdict on those models? Should I go for something else?

>>57530957
t430s best top

What's the step up from a T420 that has 1920 resolution?

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>>57530999
>stealthy

>>57531282
Yeah, I hate does laptops that scream "look at my powaaahh" or "look at my fancy featurrrrrr!!!"

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>>57531017
>T460
>4/8GB soldered ram, one socket for upgrade
>soldered CPU
>6 row keyboard
>remove cover to access SATA slot
>ThinkPad logo upside down
It is sad to see the direction Lenovo is taking this brand. Although not as sad as what Apple is doing to MBP.

But who am I to cry. I'll still probably buy a refurbished X260 in a few years despite its defects as it still has TrackPoint and a high quality keyboard feel.

>>57531352
T460p has two ram slots and supports up to 32GB though.

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Is $500 fair for a good 440s with an IPS screen?

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/g/ I was thinking of turning the Socket bga from x230 to pga, would it be possible? Of course i will use a compatible pga processor.

I like how the thinklight is never mentioned, its like one of the best things of the t420 meme.

>>57530957
Just copped an X220t with 8 GB of RAM, an SSD, and an IPS screen for $175. The battery is god awful, but all in all, I'm really digging it. The keyboard is fucking killer.

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>>57531296
Inanimate appliances cannot scream.

>>57531522
I guess it might be possible if you have professional grade tools for removing a soldered CPU and inserting a PGA adapter. It'd be a nice mod but I'm very skeptical of your odds for success.

>>57531568
Yes, the old Thinkpad keyboards are glorious. After my T420s, anything else is frankly unuseable. It kind of sucks though, I mean, wtf am I going to do when this thing ever dies. Get another one, I guess!

>>57531572
Thanks.

post thinkpad setups, I am building a folder of my babies

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I'm looking for a laptop for a ridiculously poorfag friend.
What do you recommend that would be 150€ MAX?

I'm open to suggestions, it may be a thinkpad, a "thinkpad", hp, dell, or whatever. Just sturdy and capable, for the price.

I'm worried about a computer old enough that the battery is almost dead. My experience with chink "compatible" batteries is horrible.

Also, X230 a cute.

>>57531651
The old layout was better but the new feel of the keyboard is superior although I've heard this might depend on the keyboard supplier as Lenovo has multitude of those.

Source: I've owned and used daily X40, X61, X201, X220, X230 and am a proficient touch typist.

X40 and X61 were the master race though having both superior feel and layout. Sad that they are obsolete in regard to processing power and cannot be converted into stand alone keyboard+TrackPoint.

>>57531775
Riced up X201 or low end X220. Your friend just has to live with the battery they get at that price point. The price of usable ThinkPads starts to plateau around that price point. You could also look into T410s, T410, T420s, T420 if your friend doesn't mind the size.

>>57531995
The 14 inch screen would actually be a plus, although those are bulkier.
Maybe the T420s?

How likely is there going to be a new series shown at CES?

>>57531203
a T420 with the IPS FHD mod.

Can any of you help me, i need help with a certain thinkpad model. The CMOS battery is dead and needs replacing.

>>57532293
98%

I'm already pumped up to see how they'll fuck up T470 / X270. How about soldered on proprietary SSD? Just joking, vendor is gonna be that stupid for an enterprise level laptop.

>>57531017
go for the t460p your getting more for your money 16gb, 1440p, dgpu, sadly no touch screen.

>>57531650
>>57531522
There's also the issue of whether there's enough vertical space to fit the adapters and the CPU under the heatsink (likely not)

>>57532352
There is none. Only for T420s. It flickers on regular T420 since the power hardware interferes with the adapter board while the T420s is laid out differently

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hey cackfaces, do any of you have the P50?
I'm thinking of getting one to replace my 2015 15" MBP, which disgusts me because it's fragile slab of reprocessed soda cans.

The P50 sounds pretty great, and the spec improvement would help me a lot (apart from the loss of one thunderbolt port), but 16:9 is abhorrent on a level beyond anything else conceivable. However, I've read that the P-series is a return to classic Thinkpad build quality, and that's something that would be worthwhile for me, even given the ratio (the W520 was the most recent model I could tolerate). Thoughts?

>>57533004
THICC

What are the main differences between the x220/x230? How much should I be able to find either for?

has anyone used an external gpu on the t420 for more gaming capabilities? I am looking to use this as my main machine so I was wondering if I can improve this with a dock or something

>>57533618
it will work ok, but if you got a t430 with thunderbolt you'd do way better

>>57533004
I just ordered the P70 personally and I'm looking forward to getting it. Can't comment on the P50 too much other than I've read very little negative about it. About the only thing I don't like about it is the graphic card tops out at the M2000M.

>>57533618
warosu.org/g/thread/S57391604#p57401235

Old pic of mine but still going strong.

>>57530957
>brother bought a macbook couple of years ago
>3 months in he regretted it
>sold it, told him to get a thinkpad
>he gets a refurbished t540p
>uses it for a year
>gets black screen problem
>thinks it is hardware failure, puts it under his bed for 6 months doing nothing
>told him to fix it
>he says it's fucked
>i troubleshoot it
>nek minnit works perfectly
>t-thanks bro

it's not a great story but i couldn't tell anyone else but you guys
i'll probably inherit it in 2-3 years when he is bored with it

>>57530957
>new x260 tomorrow
gonna install linux

>inb4 what I'm actually referring to is [...]

>>57533004
It is an utmost build quality laptop, no keyboard flex whatsoever.

16:9 is inescapable at the moment.

>>57531552
I light the thinklight. It's really useful

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Just bought this Yoga 3 Pro off a co worker for 300 bucks. It's in mint condition and I just wanna use it for web and media.

Are any of the utilities from Lenovo worth while to download? I see stuff like yoga mode but I dont know what that is. I did a factory restore from the recovery partition but it was full of bloat so I just did a fresh Win10 install.

>>57530957
thinkpad newfag here

is a T61 for 70euros a good deal?

>>57535542
nah. too old for that price.

>>57535542
i've seen people give those away for free.

>>57535595
>>57535600

ok thanks for warning me, could you guys maybe recommend me a nice model that will be powerful enogh to run arch, the jvm, a browser and a code editor? really just need that but I don't want to overspend.

>>57535631
double the budget and just get a nice t420. OR, check your local craigslist equivalent and see if anyone is giving any for free, or selling at a decent price.

>>57535643
I looked at that t420 and I already see some amazing offers, thank you.

>>57535671
check the buyers guide in the OP too. before you commit to buying anything, see how far your budget may be able to take you.

Recently got and X220 and I love it, but I'm looking for a sleeve. Will a 14" one be large enough or do I need to get a 15" one?

j-just bought my first thinkpad. x260 w/ i5, 16gb of ram, and 128gb ssd. gonna slap ubuntu on it. d-did i do gud?

Bought a x220 with 8gb of ram, i72620m @2.7ghz and a 320gb HDD for 249 GBP.
Was it a fair price?

>>57535977
>72620m
>It's year 2116, Intel just released their 72th gen processors
>Still no reason to upgrade from Sandy bridge

>>57536049
Acutally it's their 72620th generation

>>57536049
>T400 and T60 still fully functional devices
>still no year of the Linux desktop

>tfw i want a x120e to fuck with but cant find a red one on ebay so i can cover it in edgy stickers and run riced Arch

>>57536351
get the i3/i5 version

T450s with i7-5600U, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, for anywhere between $900-1000, new with 3 year warranty.

Is it a good deal? Reading about them it seems T460 isn't very good, neither is the T440. People seem to agree T450s is the peak of the Thinkpad T series.

It also has hot-swappable battery, user replaceable RAM and an extra M.2 slot for an SSD.

Should I get it?

>>57536422
The x131e is butt ugly and over 2x the price. I already have a T420 as a main (powerful) portable, i just want a sub-notebook for messing around with and the x121e is $50 or so plus whatever chink ram and SSD costs.

I'm broke and was wondering if the Thinkpad E460 is a good option? It comes with a core i5 6200u + 4GB ddr3 1600 MHz ram.

I plan to upgrade the 500 GB hdd with a Samsung ssd and maybe even add another 4GB ram.

>>57536666
E series is cancer. Put it towards a T450s or T420.

>>57535062
>16:9 is inescapable at the moment
But muh macbook

>>57530957
How can I get a ThinkPad (I mean the T, X and W/P models) in Russia?

>>57537098
From avito.

>>57530957
What's the best (as in fastest CPU) ThinkPad that has a 4:3 screen?

>>57537407
X61? X62 if you count chink-modded thinkpads.

>>57537098
ebay

>>57531775
Honestly for windows I think the Ideapad 100s is a very good laptop, I repaired a couple of them but they are very reliable.

If you want a chunkpad I can recommend the T60. (Own an R60 penguin machine)

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Just changed the LCD on my x220 to an IPS.
It looks amazing, thank you guys for recomending me doing this

>>57537529
Dell always seemed low end to me.
Has that changed?
New thinkbooks are shit though, so anyone can be better.

>>57537610
dell makes low end laptops and I'm sure they're a disaster but the Latitude is designed to compete with the Thinkpad

>>57537529
I've heard that same thing for years that dell and hp business laptops are great.

I personally had a shit experience with an HP consumer laptop and now avoid HP as much as possible.


>thinking about getting a refurbished latitude

>>57537610
>Dell always seemed low end to me.
dell makes all sorts of products, they do have a good line of business laptops since business is their bread and butter

>>57537726
but for some reason they don't know how to take pictures of their products, so I don't really know if they are worth purchasing.
But I guess it is the 7000 line that is worth it?

>>57537766
>7000 line

I'm getting nervous as a decade long loyal latitude fan

i don't trust skinny laptops, i feel like they are more likely to fry but I'm no engineer so take that with a grain of salt

>>57531572
>inanimate
What is a fan
What is an optical drive
What is a spinny platter drive
What are electrons

>>57535542
It's an okay deal.
Sadly used thinkpads are quite expensive in the EU

Funny you guys complain about the "new" keyboard when they literally feel identical to the old ones except they don't flex anymore. I'm pretty sure there is no difference to the mechanism at all. Makes reddit circlejerk look weak in comparison.

>>57533878
why the hell would you buy it now

>>57531775
T400 is the best cheap one for the price right now. Perfectly usable even today.

I've got a T400 and X200S, I'm wondering how hard it is to upgrade the screen to IPS+LED?

>>57537407
T61 is the last and most powerful. You can get them with Penryn CPUs if you're lucky, which are still fine today.

>>57538451
Dude I use the same two laptops. very strange. My only fault with them is the screen so I'd be very interested in this too.

Just got my first T420
What are the things I should do first?
I want to install a distro but I'm probably going to upgrade it with a SSD in a month or two, should I wait until then or will cloning my drive work?

>>57538480
Same here, they have a very poor viewing angle but otherwise they're both awesome machines.

What does everyone think about the ministry of freedom thinkpads?

They have T400's and x200 with upgraded ssd and ram.

>>57537581
TFW still 768p

>>57538745
Why not X201 or X220, both can be corebooted

>>57538797
by them? not to sure

>buy a used ThinkPad from a reliable distributor
>has a Windows 7 fresh install, but some custom ThinkPad drivers
>run a system file integrity restoration, verify that all drivers are signed, run a rootkit and virus scan

Is everything good, or is there still a risk that any spyware the seller could install is still here?

>>57530957
post dope t420's
anyone here with ssd x hdd x i7 x 1080 screen?

>>57538797
You cannot get rid of the ME though so X201 and X220 cannot be Librebooted.

>>57530999
I'd look into a surface if I were you, idk if you can get Linux into that though

>>57538873
You should clean install

>>57539056
I'm with ssd/hdd/hdd and quad core i7, FHD mod still not available to buy ffs.

What's a good place to order a replacement battery in Europe? Amazon won't deliver batteries abroad because it's flammable, even though they'll deliver a whole laptop. With the prices in my country I might as well just get a new thinkpad instead of a new charger and battery

>>57539056
Nope. I have i7-2620m, mSATA SSD, dual HDD and 2 brand new OEM 9 cells though

>>57539626
Aliexpress.

Just don't buy obvious fake shit like 9-cells for $30 and make sure the lenovo logo isn't covered or blurred in the picture.

>>57539626
Got one shipped from the uk, searched on ebay.co.uk filtering by EU listings. There was some trouble shipping but in the end it arrived anyway.

>>57536049
Kekked

Any new Thinkpad or retro news/rumours floating around yet?

Hello
How do i make my battery last long
Thank you

is there any software that makes artificial borders on the screen? I wanna try and see how I like 4:3

>>57532621
yha, i think now is not gonna work, i will just change the processor and that is it.

Is the X230 with an i5-3320M still great for daily use?

>>57536184
The issue is thus: normies view computers and phones as fashion accessories rather than tools. That's why software has so much effort put in to appearance now. It's dumn because if it was just the productivity they wanted then we'd be seeing a totally different technology.

So while a T60 may be still very capable, saying you use an old laptop isn't cool, man.

There's also the shameless consumerism part.

>>57540151
Use thresholds. On my x220 I have it programmed to charge it only to the 85%.
Use TLP for that if you use linux
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP

>>57540575
Charge it only 85%? Thats like an extra 10 minutes of use. Why would I do that?

>>57540483
i don't think this is as true as you think. yeah, i have heard a lot of people (like my 13 year old niece) say they like macbooks

but other than applefaggotry, to a normie a laptop is a laptop and a smartphone is a smartphone

What extended battery should I get for my t530?

What wifi driver should I install on my T420 running fedora?

>>57535739
That will be fine.
>>57535809
p good desu

>>57538533
www.google.com

I'm an unproductive person, will I become productive if I buy a tool designed to be productive?

>>57541118
No, what are you, retarded?

If you want to become productive, use the Getting Things Done technique (reply for link), either todoist or taskwarrior, and a calendar.

>>57541182
reply link

>>57541193
https://hamberg.no/gtd/

>>57541193
>>57541214
Read it, and reply if you have questions on how many people implement this.

I've been following this technique and it turned me from a lazy ass into a pretty productive student.

>>57541222
when you say lazy ass it already sounds like your problem is on another level. I've literally never done anything productive even on a micro scale in my entire life

>>57541240
That sounds like an exaggeration.

Productivity is like a muscle. Just as you can't lift heavy before lifting light, so must you ease into this system, using small ideas from it at first and for small tasks (e.g. one easy task per day like 'make bed'), before you completely use this system and fully actualize all your goals.

>>57541340
yeah but like, I don't even know how to feel the muscle, it mostly feels like I'm entirely running on basic urge.
I'm not trying to make excuses though, I'll have a look.. at some point

>>57541350
Maybe try something close to a basic urge.

For example, if you like competitive games, do something fun in the game but that also is a little work (like trying to be better at that character).

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So im looking to upgrade my T430s screen to a 1600x900 one. I have an idea what to buy but I want to avoid soldering. Is there a panel out there that just connects to the board and works? Or will I have to replace the ribbon cable and or solder anything?

I was seriously going to buy an x1 yoga but they discontinued the OLED screen....

>>57540727
Makes your battery last long, meaning that it deteriorates less.
If you want it to last longer, more hours, don't do that, lel.

>>57539227
What if I didn't? I made purchases online from that device - do I risk having my bank info stolen?

>>57541742
I did a windows reset on mine when I got it. It's not the best practice but it's probably fine desu.

>>57541415
that's not t430s

>>57541742
Kinda yeah, there's always a risk so it's best to clean install every time you get a second hand device. I wouldn't worry too much about it, you can call your bank or something if you're
concerned

>>57541860
Am I at risk if the vendor is reliable? It 's a big hardware chain.
I bought it as a refurbished device btw, it's not just second hand.

>>57541847
But why do a Windows reset and not just verify and restore the system file integrity? The latter is usually able to ensure that no injected code is present in the system.

>>57541942
Just do a clean reset man.

>>57541995
How do I do that?

>>57531522
no
there is not enough space inside to fit a socket

>>57531498
you can find one for 300-400 with no hard drive then get SSD

>>57531775
i got my t420 for 150 with dgpu (no hdd or charger)

>>57541859
Was on a phone sorry, I mean't it as T430's

>>57542724
t430 nvidia model has 1600x900 screen which you should get for like $50.
You just connect it and it just werks.

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ooh men,

my t410 is slowly biting the dust, and i just got a work dell e5450 i7/16gb... it's fucking sweet. I thinki might cheat for christmas.... The trackpoint is quite usable and has a middle button for scrolling.

Now when i think about it, no point in buying the same laptop i already have right ?

>>57538376
why not

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Fug, it's dying. Now it's only 90 percent

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>>57543251
This is my only computer at the moment. Goodbye

>>57543280
bb

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How do I fix it

>>57530957
I am buying my first used laptop tomorrow... A T520, is that ok`?

>>57543626
I'll allow it!
specs?

What's the best place to get a new T420 battery /g/?

>>57543708
~$236 in Norway.

-Intel Core i5-2520M 2,5 GHz gen. 2
- Intel HD 3000 GPU
- 4 GB RAM
- 320 GB 7200 rpm HDD
- 15,6" LED 1600x90
-Microsoft Windows 7 Pro

>>57542878
>5 generations newer
>the same laptop

computers are so expensive here ;-;

>>57542750
As I'm coming from 1366x768 would I also need to purchase an HD+ cable?

>>57544559
Yes you need the HD+ cable.

>>57543857
>1600x90
>90
That seems small but hey if it works for you who am i to judge.

>>57543729
Amazon, Newegg or >>57539640

>>57544619
From what I see on eBay.co.uk the HD+ cables are like £12-£15 -_-

Just got x230, already has 8GB of ram, but I want to get an SSD for it, what are the best/ most cost effective SSDs. Should I get an SSD just for booting and keep the SATA for storrage? From what I understand the X230 can have 2 drives, unless I am incorrect?

>>57544746
My X230 has an mSATA 128GB SSD for systems (win + linux) and programs,and a 500GB HDD for data.

>>57544672
I got mine for $10 from Aliexpress.

>>57544746
>best
Whatever flavor of the month ssd gets shilled here, i think the current one is the 850 EVO.

>most cost effective SSDs
Kingdian S280/M280, /csg/ approved

>the X230 can have 2 drives
Yes, an mSATA SSD and a HDD/SSD bay.

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>>57544819
It can have 3 drives.

mSata and a SATA to two mSATA drives in the HDD bay, for a total of three SSDs.

GOTTA GO FAST

>>57544819
How big of difference is there between the flavor of the month(s) and the Kingdians? Thank you for the informative response anon.

>>57544872
Kigdian is chinkshit, but makes good quality TLC drives. Same quality as every big brand, with exception of Samsung and Intel.
They're also much cheaper.

>performance vs price
Kingdian

>quality/performance
Samsung/Intel
Toshiba

>I'm a huge faggot, please rape my face
Kingston,

>>57544866
>not a t420 with 2 of those adapters for 4 msata ssds + msata ssd in the back + expresscard ssd + ramdisk
do you even fast

>>57544931
So essentially, if i'm not splurging on Sam/Intel, go for Kingdian? What I meant in terms of difference, are the Sam/Intel 10% better quality? 30%, 50%?

>>57544931
>>57544976
Dude just pick an ssd from logicalincrements.com don't buy chinese crap that will fail in a month

>>57544970
FUUUUAAAAAAAARRRKKKKKKKKK

>>57544872
ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsung-850-Evo-250GB-vs-Kingdian-S280-240GB-240GB/2977vsm68986

The 240gb kingdian is $66

I've been running mine for as main drive on my T420 for some time and works pretty good, of course limited to SATA2 speeds but it doesn't even matter.

>>57542006
sfc /scannow in the cmd

>>57530957
sup /tpg/

The shinyness of some the keys of my secondhand T420 started to bother me so I'm looking to buy a new keyboard
Are the ones on eBay legit or am I getting a Chinese counterfeit?

This one for example:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/121730054081

Anyone who already bought who could tell me where? (vendor, website)

I'm in the Netherlands btw

>>57545243
I bought a weeaboo keyboard >>57521552

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>get fancy new ThinkPad P50
>4k screen
>Xeon CPU
>quadro GPU
>64gb RAM
>samsung 960 pro M.2 SSD coming
>workstation dock

>install arch with i3
>pretty much nothing works
>spend a whole day fixing shit
>wifi, keyboard fn layer and scaling don't work still
>docking it breaks everything unless it boots on the dock, even then scaling is still fucked on external screens
>can't use hybrid graphics

>install ubuntu
>everything just werks except can't change brightness
>unity even has per screen scaling in the displays application somehow
>docking works flawlessly (with hybrid gfx turned off)
>but I'm using fucking ubuntu and unity and I hate it

I have to keep using Ubuntu in the short term because I can't just stop doing work. Anyone here have a P50 and have Arch running relatively well? I'm not quite a power user and fixing things usually takes me a long time.

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I want something with an IPS screen, but I also want something with an uncucked full voltage CPU, and I don't want to spend more than $600, what are my options?

I recently bought an X230 but I've been thinking about how much money you even save on buying an X220/X230/T420/T430 compared to buying a new laptop with all the money you need to spend on upgrading all the important parts like SSD, RAM and panel? How much can you spend before you get more value from just buying a new laptop?

>>57545827
>I have to keep using Ubuntu in the short term because I can't just stop doing work.

You can run Arch in a VM, and you don't have to use Unity on Ubuntu. Use another DE or two and see what works.

>>57530957
Looking for a laptop around £450 with a 1080p IPS panel. Is the T450 the way to go?

>>57546338
depends how patient you are and what you want. I got a t430s 8gb without a hdd for 210 a few months ago and I just gave it a $60 ssd. It's so much better than what you can get nowadays for $270usd. Now I want a docking station and a monitor for full comfy

>>57530957
Where's a good place to get an IPS screen for a X220?

>>57546668
Ebay or Amazon, look for the LP125WH2(SL)(T1)

>>57540422
Definitely a great buy. Got mine for $140 here in the states, much cheaper than the x220.

>>57546953
Why is it cheaper than the x220? In my city they have it listed as more expensive than the other.

>>57546377
I tried gnome which is my favorite actually buy gnome-shell (ubuntu fork i guess) sucks compared to regular gnome, and it doesn't support scaling per monitor like unity does.

w520 worth it?

Just bought a T440, T430, Yoga 260, and Yoga 2 for $300 total. Pretty sure they were hot, but not my problem.

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Just getting comfy. Also, that's a x250 in the background.

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hey guys, hoping you could ID the thinkpad model Max Payne uses. thanks!

>>57548639
looks like x60

>>57548639
Judging by the layout, wide screen, no touchpad and no speakers i'd say x200

might be wrong though

>>57548710
no actually x4x

I dropped my t460 yesterday and it's fucked. It was way more powerful than I needed, so I'm looking for a much cheaper replacement.

I've got a new ultrabook in my workflow now, and I really don't need a powerful business class laptop any more.

I do, however, need a second laptop for light work stuff that I don't feel like explaining in detail.

How old can I go on a business laptop(pref thinkpad) and maintain modern compatibility and function?

Is there anything older than a T420 I should consider?

I need to do light programming and comfortably browse the internet.

Budget is $150, because I feel like i can find a t420 in that price range.

>>57543874
as the company one

>>57544866
you do realize this adapter makes these two msata hdds work as one? (raid array)
plus it's fucking stupid to use it.
x230 can take 3 drives - 1 in msata slot, 1 in standard 2,5" bay (up to 9,5mm - confirmed with samshit m9t 2TB HDD, it just requires some fucking around to fit) and 1 HDD/SDD in ultrabay (in ultrabase)

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>x220 arrived today
>seller claims its in 'excellent used condition
>claims display is perfect, no scratches blemishes dark spots or dead pixels
>turn it on, make sure hardware is sound
>run screen test
>stuck pixel
>open dispute

is this common with the x220 series? the one I bought had the premium display

>>57549676
stuck pixels are easy to fix. Just apply pressure

>>57549758
The pixel in question is black, and stays black so I assume it could be either. I'm aware of the heat/pressure tricks but I wouldn't want to risk doing more harm, in the event it really is unfixable and I have to return it

>>57549676
"premium display" as in the IPS one?
IPS screens are a lot more likely to have defects since manufacturers haven't pretty much perfected making them.
>>57549758
That rarely fixes the problem, and usually only works on freshly stuck pixels.
Generally anything stuck for longer than a year will stay stuck for the rest of it's life.
>>57549484
Yeah I'd just go with a t420/x220
>>57548466
them viewing angles tho
Why would you get one without an IPS screen?
>>57548710
I'm guessing that's max payne 2, and that came out in 2003 so I doubt it's an x60
>>57548720
Could be like an x40 or x30 something

>>57549808
yep, its the premium flexview IPS display offered in the x220 I believe. would I be better off returning it or fixing it myself with the IBM FRU? I've done it before on other models, so I'm not worried about difficulty. I'm unsure if I want to dump half the cost of the computer itself into a panel. Hence why I'm considering returning

>>57549873
should add everything else is fine, aside from wear you'd expect and needing thermal paste and the fan cleaned as its probably never had either done

>>57549792
if its black, i am afraid its dead pixel

>>57549808
>That rarely fixes the problem
Perhaps I've been lucky but I've solved all my stuck pixels with persistent pressure (consistently applying pressure over a period of 2-3 days).

>>57549873
Does it really bother you that much?
I mean I had 4 stuck pixels (all together) on my old monitor and after a week you get used to it
Odds are the seller will offer a partial refund, so I'd just save the $20-30 they'll probably offer you

>>57530957
Thinkpad 13 just arrived. Installing Mint now.

Question fag here
x220 for 280
-i5-2520m
-16GB DDR3 Memory
-250GB Hard Drive
-1366x768 IPS screen
-Docking station with HDD tray
-4 Battery packs - three 6 cell and one 4 cell battery
-3 Chargers so you can leave one at home, work, and when you are on-the-go
-Lenovo CD-RW USB Drive

Good deal. I just want it for doing hw at school and in class.

>>57550403
I just installed it on my T420 and everything just works. Do I need some drivers to install?

>>57550403
and I'm up. Accidentally forgot to drag .iso into Rufus so I kept booting FreeDOS about five times instead of Mint.

I only experienced about ten minutes of Windows 10 and I already feel justified in hating it.

>>57550570
$280 is godly, lucky bastard.

in my place, we're all stuck with shitty t420s refurbished at $300

>>57550772
Really on the guide it says 280 is alot to pay but it does have good specs for the price. Only reason I'm considering is cause its craigslist and I can physically inspect the device instead of relying on an ebay seller

guys will the thinkpad announced at CES be the one we deserve?

Why is my T410 so slow how do i make it fast

>>57550747
It would be pricey if it would be sole laptop, stock x220 as you usually get em.

but yours is pretty maxed out (docky, 16G ram, batpacks)

If I'm buying a P70 is the extra dosh for the IPS model worth it?

>>57550976
aren't they all IPS? do you mean 4k or touch? I wouldn't.

I just disassembled muh x61 and oiled fan then assembled it again. When i plug power ther eis no leds lighting on. Any ideas why? I have to scre all screws in order to bring it work? Or i killed matherboard or what?

>>57550812
Shoot it from cannon or put inside F1 bolid.

What do you guys think about the x1 yoga?
planning to buy it around black friday/cyber monday

>>57551127
you shorted the computer

>>57550645
just run the usual updater and then driver manager. I think the only driver youll see is the mirocode one which you should install.

Is x220 better than x230?

redpill me on IPS screens, wht the fuck is an IPS screen?

>>57552377
What is updater? apt-get update?

>>57552721
A gift from the Machine God.

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T430 master race reporting for duty
>OC'd NVS5400m with performance of GT640m
>i7-3630qm 4C/8T CPU with turbo enabled, faster than stock desktop i5-2500k
>135W PSU connected to the dock, 90W mobile PSU
>classic keyboard from T420
>9cell battery, 94Wh of real capacity (about 10 hours of battery life during browsing the internet at HD4000 iGPU)
>optimized cooling system capable of handling both turbo-enabled CPU and OC'd GPU at full load for more than 30 minutes

Feels great, dudes.

>>57553117
Is 16 GB a meme? I fell for it on my desktop and it certainly is.

>>57553168
Depends how much you paid for it.
My 2x8GB DDR3L sticks cost me $20 each, so it was dirty cheap. I use my t430 as a server tho, so I actually need it.

>>57553168

i think it's a good idea. RAM is the new dick size of computers. I remember when it was processor speed

16gb might not be necessary right now but it probably will be in 2 or 3 years

>>57552754
In teh taskbar, theres a shield with a tick in it. Click that.

>>57553168
I have 16 gbram and I almost always have to restrain myself not to use it all

>>57553117
how to OC the NVS5400m?

>>57553117
what do you mean by optimized cooling system ?

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>tfw X60, T60, X200, T400 and T500 are last thinkpads you can live without Intel ME botnet
>ywn experience glorious X220 battery life because of Intel jew

>>57553263
Ideally bent heatsinks for both CPU and GPU to entirely cover the chips, which is not the case after lelnovo laptops leaves the factory.
After doing this the temperature drop is significant...

>>57553256
msi afterburner
my stable settings are +100MHz at core and +225Mhz at memory
also remember about tpfancontrol and unlocking the highest fan state

>>57553293
>being an idiot
fixd for you

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>>57553417
>triggered proprietary botnetted bios user
I bet you faggot are running Windows.
https://stallman.org/intel.html

Is there going to be anything better than a T410 with an i5 and 4gbs of RAM for $150 ish

It just needs to do internet stuff and run old productivity software that's currently being run on a T61 with a C2D, the IDE drive is probably just failing on that one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834319211&ignorebbr=1

>>57553563
I don't give a fuck.
Enjoy being alone and autistic for the rest of your miserable life.

Guys how am I supposed to get T420 wifi drivers on Linux? I've searched a lot and it's starting to worry me that nothing works...

>>57553776
install windows

My t420 wasn't charging properly, I would need to have the cable in just the right position for it to work. Has anyone ever actually had an adapter cable break? I ordered a new charger to see if it works but I have a feeling it's the charger port that's busted

Is the X240 really that bad? What are its pros and cons?

>>57553886
>single memory bank
>unusable trackpoint buttons
>shitty design
>shitty CPU options

>>57553915
Could you elaborate this, please?

>>57546100
The wiki

>>57553942
elaborate on what, you stupid retard?
elaborate on your post

is it possible to fix screen tearing on t420 intel graphics?
Os: lubuntu

>>57545827
How much did that dankpad cost you?

>>57545827
>not even 128GB ECC RAM
poorfag

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The screen on my T60 has had these weird ass dots all along the edge for over a year now. What the fuck could it be?

>>57554105
it's a cum stain
clean it up with warm towels and stop doing what you're doing

>>57554005
$0, work bought it for me

>>57554016
it's got 64gb tho

Hp compaq nx6325.
Is this so lowspec that it's basically unisable?

>>57554313
*unusable

I've had a T410 for a while now but I think the battery killed itself (I was getting warnings that it needed to be replaced). I didn't use it for a few days and it no longer turns on. Now, plugging in my power cord doesn't make anything light up on the thinkpad, and it doesn't turn on without the battery either. I ordered a replacement battery and a new power cord, thinking one of those might be the problem, but putting in a new battery and using the new cord doesn't change anything; no lights go on on the Thinkpad, and it does not turn on. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with it? Is it the charging port or something worse? Is it fucked?

If so, is a T420 the recommended cheap replacement?

>>57552721
more expensive panel has better colors and viewing angles than TN which pretty much everything uses

Recently got an R61 on ebay. Don't bitch about it vs the T61, the only real differences are slightly thicker and slightly heavier and I got it dirt cheap.

Current specs
>14.1" widescreen (____x900)
>t7300
>2gb ram
>Nvidia NVS 140M
>500gb 7200rpm drive
>DVD drive

Future upgrades
>Middleton bios (3gb Sata, 8gb ram, other processors)
>t8300
>4gb ram
>SSD OS drive
>drive Bay adapter
>500gb storage drive
>usb 3.0 cardbus
>second wifi pcie card
>new quality thermal paste (so I don't kill the GPU)


Should be solid. I have the ram already, the HDD drive Bay caddys are cheap, the t8300 cpus are sub $10. Only going to go for a 120gb SSD if I'm running a 500gb storage/backup drive. Pretty excited about it to be honest. Going to use it as my traveling laptop as I have something much more powerful at home.

Any other suggestions for it?

I got a X230 from eBay and the BIOS is unlocked but Computrace anti-theft protection is enabled. Should I be worried?

>>57553871
>>57554398
Idk about the t420 and t410 but a lot of these computers are fairly easy to swap the charging ports. Even if it's soldered on. You can probably order something cheap from china and diy fix it in under an hour.

>>57553318
Is this a diy mod of an aftermarket part? Is there such a thing for T61 and T410 and others?

>>57554759
I don't think there is a need to tweak heatsinks in t61 and t410...
No, you just do it with a pair of pliers.

Is it a bad idea to put the RAM from my old laptop in my X230 that's a different brand and speed?

>>57554798
Not really. Some people say don't mix brands but it really doesn't matter. A slower speed ram than what your computer can handle isn't ideal though and going from 4gb of highspeeds to 6gb of high speed and lowspeed will probably slow you down everywhere you aren't using more than 4gb of ram.

>my opinion is slap her in there and see how she runs. You can always take it back out.

>>57554798
depends
probably no

Question: does the T420 have a blu-ray drive? Or at least, does Lenovo ship a blu-ray replacement drive for the T420?

>>57553999
Getting the same issue on mint cinnamon, anyone?

>>57556493

i had screen tearing in firefox using mint

fixed by going to about:config and turning
gfx.xrender.enabled to "true"

if you're experiencing other screen tearing idk, it was only firefox for me when i upgraded from 17.3 to 18 i just googled the problem and that fixed it

Any thinkpads good for design and some minor video editing? Ideally id like to keep it under $800.

i5, 8gb ram, ssd, at least 1080p display?

>>57556686
Dont buy a thinkpad

>>57556715
Alright, fair enough. Any other recommended laptops then? I was thinking about getting an XPS. Or possibly the new Samsung notebook 8 but it's a little over my budget, the display is gorgeous though.

>>57556822
macbook pro

>>57554823
>>57554824
Whelp, looks like the X230 only have two slots and ships with 1x4 GB and I have 2x2 GB, but 6GB is better than 4

Trying to find a t60 with 1600x1200 is suffering

>>57557546
such is life

>>57536459
I just got one used(?) for $600 with same specs except for i5 and a touchscreen (1920x1080), no warranty that I know of (I've only had it for 1 hour so far), and I still feel like I overpaid. inb4
>touchscreen

I've seen the final auction prices range from $450-$600 in the last 3 weeks for i5 T450s with screen resolution of 1920x1080. Personally, I wouldn't go for the 1600x900 resolution.

>>57556573
I fixed it in the OS when I was running XFCE which used Compton. I was trying to get the Intel HD iGPU utility to work so I could setup settings but I couldn't get it working.
Also Is there any way to tweak the system more to get better FPS in light games? Struggling to get a smooth experience in Baldurs Gate @1366x768. Any ideas?

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On the scale of 1 to 10, how much did I fuck up?

>>57554647
the GPU will die anyway, regardless of how good the cooling will be.

>>57558203
Do you really need the tablet mode?
If yes, you did good.
You don't need it? Complete fuck up, then.

>>57558163
you're asking the wrong guy i think, i do have intel integrated graphics and haven't ever used the utility you're talking about. my gaming on linux experience is limited to playing LoL on low settings. good luck though

>>57558203
https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Lenovo-Thinkpad-Laptop-Keyboard/dp/B009FYHXX4

you didn't screw up too bad, 44 dollars buys you an American language keyboard

Why do 99% of resellers not write the damn resolution?

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>>57553117

I see you want to come across as a patrician, yet you use Windows 10 instead of Windows 7. Also, you are exaggerating your battery life. There is no way you can get 10 hours of browsing with that CPU and the 3 storage devices.

>>57558811

because it's 1366 x 768

I actually made a fail thread on /g/ because I recently bought a latitude on ebay, resolution wasn't listed and it was 1366 x 768 (literal downgrade from my previous latitude)

replacement panel was 40 bucks, 2 way cable was 7 bucks... but that doesn't account for the effort and time it took to disassemble the whole fucking laptop to change the LCD cable, in the end I have a decent screen but holy shit I fucked up BIG LEAGUE and will never make that mistake again

message the seller, don't be like me

>>57553117
>>9cell battery, 94Wh of real capacity (about 10 hours of battery life during browsing the internet at HD4000 iGPU)
lol no
lying to yourself is unhealthy

>>57557546
Narrow your search to the T60p, you'll at least eliminate all the 1024x768 trash that way.

>>57558811
Usually when they don't list it, it's the default lowest.I suspect it's sold by people who don't think resolution is a big deal. Either way, always ask the seller.

>>57558811
run the type number through the specs lookup tool in the OP

of course, the screen could've been replaced from the factory one, but it's not likely

Why is the t400 line always such a spec-cuck compared to x200 and t500?

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Considering getting the Dell Latitude E5470, it seems to be Dell's equivalent of T460 or T460p with a less shitty screen. Just not sure whether I want to go with the ULV CPU for better battery life or pay up and get the full fat 45W one.

Any thoughts on the E5470?

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"HD"

my x220 arrived today and i was wandering which distro should i put on it. Suggestions? Besides Gentoo obv

>>57560091
Elementary
https://elementary.io/

>>57560091
Antergos

>>57560091
Windows 10 home edition

>>57560151
i've had horrible experiences with elementary and i'm not gonna use it ever again

>>57560091
Xubuntu.

Why does my BIOS tell me I have 8192 MB of RAM but screenfetch tells me I have 7687 MB? Did I get bamboozled?

>>57560211
same as elementary

>>57560233
i wanna avoid systemd. Something else?

>>57560302
Gentoo it is.

>>57560225
Tell me about it

>>57560302
ever heard of Devuan?

>>57560225
>>57560349

What horrible experience senpai

>>57560469
had problems with kernel updates back when it was in beta

>>57560091
Whatever it is, make sure it's proprietary, so it works better

>>57560503
I got on board with Loki and have yet to meet any major issues.

>>57560666
the only problem i'm experiencing are some fn keys not working

>>57541995
>usually

If you're that paranoid, just do a clean install for fucks sake.

Only takes 30 mins.

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>buy T420
>be really happy with it, touchpad has little bumps which is so much nicer than my previous laptop
>runs beautifully, no bullshit
>go over to friend's place to hang out
>waiting for another friend to come over, pull out my Thinkpad, show it off to my friends
>they like it, one of them is intrested in buying one for work
>dick around on the internet for a while
>suddenly
>BEEP BOOP BEEP BOOP
>jesus christ anon is that a fucking bomb
>I uh don't know it never did this before
>make it stop jesus is it gonna blow
>start panicing, thinking the battery is gonna blow or something
>realize it's just low on battery
>plug it in
>friends laugh at me
>they now call me the "Thinkbomber"


I fucking hate you /tpg/. You did this to me. My social life is ruined forever.

>>57561454
>not disabling the beep boops on bios
You deserve everything that happened.

>>57560252
vram

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>>57561454
Oh Anon, you so silly.

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So I've installed Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition on Mint 18, Now I want to remove it. But for some reason right clicking it in the menu and selecting uninstall doesn't do anything. Any ideas?

>>57562547
>using Mint unironically
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

>>57559911
Depends how long you are keeping the laptop for.

>>57561454
>thinkbomber

NICE

>>57538364
The main complaint is about the layout and reduced travel distance.

>>57562547
Go to the install location and use the uninstall file

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Guess I'm gonna pick up some more ram. What's a good, cheap 8gb kit?

New thread:
>>57562930

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In your opinion are consumer grade Lenovo laptops worth the trouble of upgrading?

I've had this u430 touch for a little under three years now. It still works flawlessly but there are some things I'd like to change.

Questions:

I'm replacing the hard drive with a small SSD for primary storage. This would require moving things like /var, /tmp (which already is a ramdisk on most modern distros), cache's, etc. to ramdisk, so....

1.) Is 8GB RAM enough to do this comfortably? This would drop me to about 6GB ram usable, all I'm doing is shitposting and email with it.

2.) Where can I buy an Atheros chipset to replace the Intel Wireless one that came with it? I'd like to use vanilla Debian or Trisquel/Parabola/etc. with this.

3.) Anything I missed that would be a good upgrade at the same time?

Sorry if this is in the wrong spot, just curious. I already opened it up and took out what I would be changing, along with redoing the thermal paste and just cleaning it out in general.

>>57557938
>I just got one used(?) for $600
>I've seen the final auction prices range from $450-$600

That's for used. Brand new ones (in box, sealed, with warranty) are $900-1000.

>>57558221
That's not what I've heard about it. It dies because it over heats and the solder actually makes the chip disconnect from the PCB. The actual graphics chip is perfectly fine.