Is there a genuine reason to install Arch over Debian/Ubuntu?

Arch just let's you choose exactly what you want to install and some people prefer the package system over apt-get.

Atleast I think I'm right. Someone correct me.

>>57513209
except it doesn't because everybody installs base and base-devel anyway

>>57513124
Over a Debian netinst or Ubuntu minimal, none I can think of.

>>57513209
This and the whole "learning how it all works" part are the primary reasons I chose Arch. And installing without a second computer to read the wiki really makes you git gud at the terminal. Before installing Arch I had trouble building packages and remembering commands, now I'm a lot better. But for the average user who doesn't care about learning, stick with Ubuntu or Debian, you'll be happier

>>57513266
you could always get pacman to list the packages in a meta package and pick the ones you want. Let pacman resolve the deps.

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I currently work with C++17 and a little C++20. Having GCC 6.2.0 installed from the get go is very convenient.

>>57513124
Debian is an SJW cancer

AUR

>>57513124
just use Windows

>>57513385
>This and the whole "learning how it all works" part are the primary reasons I chose Arch.

Arch doesn't teach you "how it all works".

If you want to learn how it all works use Slackware. It has no package manager and everything has to be installed from source. You even have to compile the kernel.

>>57514374
That's retarded, and like saying you can't learn about cars without assembling one yourself.

Also, if you really want to go all out, follow Linux from Scratch. But please just do it as an exercise, don't use the resulting OS as your daily desktop driver, that's silly.

I agree that installing Arch using the wiki is a good beginner exercise, but when it comes to daily use, some switch to a stable distro after a few breakages due to le rolling release.

Ubuntu can also be minimal btw. Install plain headless Ubuntu and add the GUI stuff manually. I prefer Ubuntu on the desktop due to more available 3rd party packages and repositories. I run Debian on my server.

>>57514374
>Slackware
>It has no package manager
Slight lie. It has no inbuilt dependency resolution.
>Everything has to be installed from source
Big lie, there are slackware packages.
>You even have to compile the kernel
Liar liar pants on fire lie, you do not need to compile the kernel.

>>57514281
>AUR

I have only ever used Arch.

How do other distributions deal with packages that Arch only has in the AUR?
Do they have to manually install them or something?

>>57514828
Ubuntu have the PPA and everyone laugh about with, like AUR.

Arch install stories?

I spend over 2 hours just to increase the default font size so I could actually read the terminal on my 250dpi screen.

>>57514281
this

>>57513124
No. The differences are small enough that you might as well learn and become familiar with the ones that people actually use for deployment (Debian/Ubuntu).

>>57514877
Oh, liking AUR is supposed to be a joke?

I use it for non-free stuff like Sublime text and I'm just glad I don't have to fuck around with custom repositories or manually downloading and compiling.

>>57514374
That doesn't teach you how it works either. If you want to learn how it works stop jerking off over distributions, learn to program and read the source code.

>>57513209
>what is debian net-install

>>57513124
the feds run debian

Yeah. Once I was developing a piece of software and I couldn't be bothered doing much but wanted up to date libraries and so I installed arch on my laptop and the libraries where there and it worked okay. Dependencies got hellish though and there were a few points of no return so I ended up going back to Debian unstable. But it was okay. I used to use arch full time a year ago or so as well.

>>57514744
>That's retarded, and like saying you can't learn about cars without assembling one yourself.
No, it's not like that at all. If we were saying assemble it yourself you would have to start from the kernel and build your own boot disk. We're just saying compile and install programs with the coreutil set. Comparable to driving a manual over an auto.

>>57514793
Slackware packages are barely maintained. mpv is two versions behind, for example.

>>57513124
Debian is always outdated.

>>57513385
>And installing without a second computer to read the wiki really makes you git gud at the terminal
You can read the installation guide from the install image though.

>>57513385
>the "arch teaches you linux" meme
(You)

>>57514930
It's a joke to say that it is any better than the community repositories literally every other distro has.

>>57515754
>barely maintained
quality shitpost

the point of it is to be perfectly stable

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>>57516515
>linux
>stable

>>57516553
(You)

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>>57516553
more stable than ur mum ever was

>>57513124
You should install that new os

Solus

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>>57516590