I need a laptop for programming

>>57497404
a thinkpad ?

well, you want a business-class laptop, however you'll have trouble finding a decently-priced one with a 1080p screen (they usually just put 480p or 720p screens on business laptops because they assume that you'll be supplied with an external monitor setup if necessary)

>>57497404
hinges scratch your desk
top heavy
more expensive than a 15" MacBook Pro
keyboard base and battery cannot charge the tablet part
when closed it's thicker than it should be due to a strange gap from the hinge design

>>57497404
>buying 16:9 as a programmer
full fucking retard.
If you have to fill all these requirements, wait for the new thinkpad they'll announce at CES.
Or stop being an autist and buy the new surface book and just don't use the fucking touchscreen jesus christ

>>57497404
T420

>>57497769
Why would I waste 30% of the price on a feature I am never going to use, retard?

>>57497404
t450s, (used)
t460s, (new 2core)
t460p (new 4core)

depends how much money you want to throw

>>57497800
because it has something you should want equally as much as a programmer and it has a monopoly on that feature, and it fullfills all your other demands.
OR, again, wait for CES in january and see what lenovo announces.

>>57497404
Macbook Pro Retina 13" 2015
>16:10 screen
>OS X, Windows, and Linux compatibility
>2560x1600 resolution
>aluminum build quality
>decent power

You could also get a Thinkpad, but you lose being able to program in OS X and the high resolution

>>57497776
I was about to say the same thing...

>>57497860
Unfortunately apple products are really rough on your hands if you type as much as a serious programmer, poor key travel. Also he asked for not apple. 16:10 with good res makes it more respectable than most laptops for me though. windows is definitely a superior commercial OS for me personally but it's obviously still an option

>>57497828
He wants reasonable power for compiling so may be c/c++/rust/haskell.

>>57497776
How's GNU + Linux support?

>>57497404
I've been programming Java/C# and been responsible for Linux/legacy sysadmin and worked as an systems architect, and here's my recommendation:

A MBP.

Personally I've been using Gentoo and Windows on Lenovo computers mainly, but OSX accomplishes a mixture of both. Great battery life and compatability with an unix system. Go full Linux and you'll find yourself out of touch with an office setting, getting everything from presentation screens to printers to work can suck major balls. With a MAC, you can still get that sweet UNIX system that'll work fantastically.

A MBP has reasonable power for compiling code, and to date in the office the high-end MPB is the de facto best computer to work with. It has a pci-express memory which makes it blow everything else away. We've been unable to beat it running a full compile and a full suite of tests on a laptop.

>>57497828
I'm getting the feeling that OP is new at programming and as such is buying this out of enthusiasm, maybe not the smartest move, but there are definitely universal desired features for all coders, and he's probably not tied down in specifics yet. that's my guess

MacBook Pro

google pixel

>>57497404
Some Asus ZenBook that doesn't have touch screen and doesn't have a shitty Core-M.

Dell xps

>>57497860
You can run OSX on some thinkpads, including X220 and T420.

It's perfectly usable on the T420, obviously it's older machine, but 1600x900 is still decent and actually you have more space than on 2560x1600 with scaling enabled.

>>57497982

Most laptops these days come with 1920x1080.

Macbook Pros can only scale from 1680x1050 so Macs literally have less real estate than a cheap $500 laptop. Kek.

>>57497776
>T420
>8+ hours of battery life
I'm not seeing it.

>>57497982
>but 1600x900
hold it right there.
If we allow this shit he should just get a t60 with 1600x1200 and cloud compute all compiling.

>>57497404
Just get a MacBook and get over with it, they are superior in any way. If you are a freetard, you may feel a slight sting at first. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride. Pride only hurts, it never helps

Not OP, and have no qualms with a Mac, but which MBP is the right one to get? I hear a lot of shit about the current release, while some are praising the 2015 version. Notebookcheck seems to have a glowing review of the late 2013 version.

>>57497776
>heavy as fuck
>THICK
>plastic
>shitty keyboard
>throttling
>FUCKING CALCULATOR QUALITY LCD
>maximum 5-6 hours with heavy as fuck 9-cell battery

>>57498374
If you get a MBP, go with a souped up 16GB, 1 TB Late 2013 MBP. It'll be cheaper than the 2015 MBP and the 2015 MBP has no major advngt over it.

>>57498439
Like this?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GQGCFGE/

Looks pretty good for the price.

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>>57498421
>shitty keyboard

>>57497452
14' Latitudes are usually 1440*900 doe

http://xiaomi-mi.com/notebooks/
These

>>57498421
>shitty keyboard
It's the actual best keyboard for any laptop in the world, it's more than 50% of why people still buy it

>>57498594
want to buy this notebook ....plz xiaomi launch this product in indian........waiting...eagerly ....plz plz plzz...

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>>57498421
i get 8 hours on a worn out 9 cell
install the power manager, dumpy

>>57498042
>Just get a MacBook and get over with it, they are superior in any way. If you are a freetard, you may feel a slight sting at first. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride. Pride only hurts, it never helps

great advice anon

>>57498594
didn't take long for the xiaomi shill to arrive

>>57498042
This right here.

I switched to Macs for programming about 5 years ago and it was the best decision I ever made.

>>57498651
how does it feel to poop on the street?

>>57498787
This is a comment on the website he linked.

Acer Chromebook 14 with Linux. You can buy one for $200 right now, it's a pretty good deal.

You could also check out the Dell Depot and snag a Dell Chromebook 13 for $200~ish, those are pretty nice.

>>57497404
>programming

Thinkpad T420 and install Fedora on it

"programming" can be done on literally anything though

>>57498594
0.5 GearBest points have been deposited into your account!

>>57497404
xps 13 / 15

>>57497404
Why isn't there a containment thread for laptop suggestions?

>>57499921
Because then there would be no room for yet another nVidia/AMD thread.

>>57498594
+1 for Xiaomi

>>57499921 >>57499955
on /wsr/ there's a 'help me choose a new laptop' thread everyday

Why is full HD is not a requirement for laptop nowadays when most smartphones is using full HD?

>>57497769
What's wrong with 16:9 for programming?

>>57500959
>you work with text
>the human eye is much much better at reading short lines stacked high than short stacks of very long lines
>generally much less wasted space when having multiple programs open
>generally the screens are just bigger and higher ress for their time, allowing for more space to use even under optimal circumstances, and the extra size isn't as straining on the eye.

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>>57497404
Dell Latitude e5270 (12"), e5470 (14") or e5570 (15") depending on your screen size preference.

>>57501024
this is AT BEST trivial

We use the Dell Latitudes at work.
14" screen, non-touch, 1080p, i7, 16GB RAM.
~$1000 direct from Dell.

You could probably find a used/refurb for cheaper.

>>57501063
Ok, what would be a better screen?

>>57501063
Only if you've never felt the difference. If I could pick between having an SSD and having a 4:3 screen and I could never have the other, I guarantee the 4:3 screen would make me more efficient than the SSD would

>>57497404
As long as it can have Solus installed on it it's a good laptop.

>>57501110
this desu senpai, ebay has some gr8 deals if you know how to use it right

>>57497452
My latitude has full 1080p

>>57498523
not anymore, the shit ones are 768 but any decent models are 1080 these days

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Thinkpad x260.

>>57501111
>>57501138
I have never noticed a difference in productivity as long as the screen is decently sized

zero shits given about proportions afaic, only resolution

>>57501260
well you're an idiot then. this isn't subjective, unless you feel at ease claiming that your eyes are completely differently configured than every other person.

>>57501287
>argument time
look faggums. If I can keep my terminal on one side, and whatever the fuck else on the other, I'll get my shit done.

Same 4 you? Yeah same 4 you.

>>57501323
sure, you'll get it done, you'll just be much much slower at doing so.

Dell XPS.

Get a Macbook Pro my main man.
If you're sick of shit screens on laptops use a rMBP, a lot of people go for an XPS or Yoga, Surface Pro etc but none of them have better screens than the Macbook.

A lot of the contractor devs I work with use a 15" rMBP and use VMs for everything.

>>57497404
x220 with FHD mod.
>how to fhd mod
it's very difficult and there is little to none research done on that, my advice is worthless

X250 has FHD displays in their offer. It also has very good battery life and external battery is hot-swappable, so it should be great for your needs

>>57501050
I've been looking at latitudes myself. Any reason to choose the e7270/7470 over their 5000 series cousins?

>i need a laptop for programming
>8 hours of battery with 1080

commit suicide karlie

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>>57502241
7000 series are somewhat thinner and lighter, and have higher base specs. They may be slightly less upgradable depending on the exact model, and they also all come with a trackpoint mouse which is a turnoff personally. I also prefer the look of the keyboard on the 5000 generally, but that's personal preference and really rather minor.

They're usually a couple hundred dollars more as well, if price is important I'd go with the 5000. Otherwise you really have to look at the exact models and compare.

>>57502450
thanks for the rundown man, think i'll be looking to pick up a 5470 sometime in the next few weeks.

>>57497404
Xiaomi mi notebook air. A little hard to get now but best shit in the category!

Precision e7510 is a way to go. Eventually 5510.

What's a good hackintosh/linux laptop? I've been using Windows since forever and while I have Ubuntu on dual boot I feel like I'm missing out on OSX/iPhone programming.

>>57501352
>>57497970
I love my XPS but OP wanted decent battery and you do not get that with the XPS, or atleast the 4k 15" i've got

>>57497945
second

Their 2015 pixel laptop has 8-12 hours of battery life depending on your usage and has an i5.

>>57497404
>not an apple product
>for programming
Retarded. When you actually get a job you'll see just how much of a grip Apple has on the industry.

>>57503282
>fruity toddler toy for technology illiterate gullible morons
>for programming

>t. mactoddler

>>57503362
>most shops with >50 people use MBPs almost exclusively for their developers
>toddler toy

K, stick to your thinkpad

Pretty much in the same boat as OP, been looking for a laptop I can take with me to college mainly for programming.

Had a Thinkpad T460 for a bit, but I either got a really bad unit or it's a pretty disappointing laptop, ended up selling it.

Was eyeing the XPS 13 for a while, but all the quality control issues it seems to have put me off, also seeing it in person it felt a bit too cramped since it's basically a 11.6" laptop with 13.3" screen.

At this point I'm almost considering just getting the 2015 Macbook Pro 13, I'm not an apple fan by any means, but I really can't find anything worthwhile. Either that or some cheap ass chromebook or used chinkpad while I wait for something better to come out.

>>57503362
>>fruity toddler toy for technology illiterate gullible morons
>>for programming

It can be for both

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>>57497860
>>57497906

>fruity overheating throttling toddler toy that can't even watch youtube without setting your house on fire

>>57503473
>overheating throttling
Why lie?

>>57503362
Still in the pay of Unka Bill, eh?
He doesn't really love you, you know.

>>57503282
where exactly?

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>>57503505
>toddler toy
>for work

Why lie?

>>57503530
>This one version overheats and throttles (under stress testing for an hour)
Therefore it's a fruity toy that overheats with Youtube

Why lie?

Razer Stealth

>boo hoo, has touch screen

If you hate it that much, disable it.

>>57503595
>t. mactoddler

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>>57503595
>This one version

>>57497404
I have an XPS 13. It ticks every one of these boxes.

Is a dGPU useful for programming? What if you like to do some Photoshop or 3D modeling on the side? Or get into CUDA?

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>>57503809

Razer Stealth + Razer Core.

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>>57503762
>XPS 13
>4. Good keyboard
>no numpad

>>57501138
3:2 > 4:3

For FizzBuzz and inane freshmen programming projects a chinkpad is good enough. Otherwise get a rMBP if you're actually compiling some decent software. Most of /g/ just pushes Thinkpads for shitposting about distros all day without ever doing anything productive.

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>>57503993
>fruity toddler toy OS
>decent software

Dell Precision.
>All these memepad posts
Thinkpad has been a pile of trash for years now.

Precision tops it in performance and build quality in every way. Plus it doesnt have that stupid new keyboard.

>>57504073
>Dell Precision.

If only the 5000 had a numpad.

>>57504126
>If only the 5000 had a numpad.

USB numpads are cheap and light enough to carry with your other gear.

>>57504126
Just get a 7000 or 3000 series. 5000 series is a meme laptop for webdev hipsters to buy at a huge markup.

>>57504126
7000 series master race

>>57500057
Because most consumers don't even really know what resolution is, much less how to compare the resolution of their laptop against their smartphone.

>>57497404
Lenovo Yoga 910 fits your needs, has a touch screen but doesn't force you to fucking use it. Currently on sale for the holidays from Lenovo and can be bought locally at most electronic retailers if you want to physically check it out.

>>57504422
>Programming on anything smaller than a 16:10 15" screen

Save that shit for shitposting and chinese cartoons.

>>57497404

Get a HP elite book.

What makes a good programming laptop anyway?

>>57504422
The Yoga 9xx throttles

>>57501230
>1366x720 mate screen IPS
>2016
>2k $ professional notebook

seriously chinkpad fanboys are worse than apple fags, have some self respect

>>57505136
clit alone is worth 1.5k famm

2015 MBP or Thinkpad X1 (which is due for an update in Jan anyway)

Surface Book has a very shitty touchpad even though it looks good on paper, and you're not going to use it as a tablet so that's wasted money (and it's apple tier overpriced)

>waited months for 2016 rMBP
>shit keyboard
>no esc
>dongles
>dongles
>dongles
>lol nope
>may get fully Specced out rMBP 13" for about ~2500 instead
>company card may pay for it

Pls suggest alternatives before I make a decision tomorrow. Planning on dualbooting linux anyway so a quality pc is not out of the question.

>>57505136
>1366x720 is for the base model
>Doesn't know that when you buy a Thinkpad you can, among other things, customize your screen to 1920 x 1080 with IPS

You crapple faggots are the cancer that is destroying /g/, OP already made clear that he doesn't want any products of that shitty company.

>>57505290
they are selling premium notebook that in base model cost more than macbook and you are somehow convined that its okay they give customres 1366x720p screen in premium price.

Its level of stupidity similar to apple fags defending 0 ports in notebook.

>>57505290
only certain models can you upgrade, and some are not nearly as simple as popping the old one off and replacing it with the new one

>>57497452
>(they usually just put 480p or 720p screens on business laptops
>480p
You are an idiot

>>57497829
i7 t440s would be fine. I have one.

only problem is replacing shitty touchpad, which may be daunting for some.

>>57505307
>they are selling premium notebook that in base model cost more than macbook

Lol no. Just check their site idiot, the base model is $810, adding the 1920 x 1080 screen it just cost $944, pretty much more cheaper than the base model of the mac.

>>57503421
This is me too and I am very disappointed everything is shit or expensive shit

>>57503856
Booga Booha nigga rig bestbuy setup

Literally everywhere I'm going in my job I see more and more products running windows 10 and company's switching over to surfaces taking over. Apple posted their biggest lose in over a decade. So you fags saying apple and getting macbooks might be the one's out of touch

>>57498502
>>57498611
>shitty keyboard
It is though, try any thinkpad older than T60 and see what you're missing

>>57498421
>heavy as fuck
Are you a manlet?

>>57497404
>I need a laptop for programming
>Reasonable power for compiling code
ANY fucking laptop released in the last 5 years will suit this.

>>57505204
Get a 2015 rMBP instead.

>>57506512
word, should have mentioned that's what I was describing

>>57501111
Not being a worthless pedant

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>>57505136
Why are you lying on the Internet?

>>57504791
Nothing.

Any Intel Core i-series laptop will do the job.

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>>57504073
>Plus it doesnt have that stupid new keyboard.
Looks like chiclets to me.

So new Thinkpad keyboards are better because their keys at least still curve in.

>>57497404
Thinkpad T460

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>>57501024
>he only has one open file at a time
>he has to look at another screen for documentation
>his other monitor doesn't have to be on outlook/thunderbird/slack at all times
>he doesn't use an orient-able screen
>he actually advocates for 4:3

unemployed javascript hobbyist detected.

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>>57497404

dell latitude or a lenovo think pad or a hp elitebook

you can one of these for under 200 dollars. that's all you need

>>57497404

if it's for programming, why would you need a full hd screen?

you can program on a 1366x768 screen

>>57497404
>I need a laptop for programming
>FULL HD screen
Go fuck yourself, you need a laptop for advanced text and you need 1080p? Suck on a cactus you spoiled piece of shit, I wrote code on 1024x600 and it was beautiful!

Get a Thinkpad x201/220/230.

>>57506775
>I walked uphill both ways
Just because it's possible to do with less, doesn't mean it's wrong to do with more.

>>57497404
almost anything

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>>57498421
>things
>stuff
>words

I'm torn between spending money for a $1600+ laptop with a dGPU and bells and whistles and being more reasonable, even cheap, with an older model that I could upgrade. I don't even game on my computer as much anymore, and I have a decent desktop and a PS4, but I'm tempted still. Maybe because I've never really used anything with integrated graphics for over a decade, and I keep telling myself I'd find a use for a GPU and a fancier CPU.

Anyone been in this dilemma?

>>57506644
>he
no
>has one open file at a time
no
>he has to look at another screen for documentation
no, 4:3 screens aren't less wide, they're just taller, that's why they're more expensive. again, you'll just be able to more efficiently read what's on your screen because 4:3 better emulates the humans focused field of view, even if you have more programs open this doesn't change. 4 square'ish windows open >>>> 4 stretch dwarf windows
Secondary monitors are also a moot point, the main screen should be 4:3 or maybe 3:2, that's all that matters on a laptop. An orientable widescreen is good for the work station as a SECONDARY monitor.

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>>57497404

>>57509217
>>he
>no

tits or gtfo you fucking faggot.

>>57497404
T460s with 2k ips

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>>57509389
has that ever worked? /b/ doesn't count

>>57509318
Probably bends

>>57509665
It's a feature.

>>57504791
A huge screen wtih huge resolution, good battery life and a good cpu to compile shit fast

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What budget laptop do you recommend?
http://www.laptopmag.com/best-laptops-under-500

>>57497860
>Isn't an apple product.
NEXT

>>57498031
I reckon I could get that if I bought a new battery. I get like 4-5 and my battery is at like 45% initial capacity.

>>57505455
uh
you are talking about model with 4gb of ram and 500gb 5400 hdd

not to mention that x260 in the best possible option has cpu is i7 6600 top kek

Latitude 14 E7450

>>57497404
>no touchscreen
It;s like you don't even want to play yugioh in bed

>>57498421
>shitty keyboard
Mate it's virtually the laptop gold standard for keyboard.

>>57497906
Weird, I get way more daily usage errors on macOS than on Linux

>>57498035
>cloud compute
>using shitty normie buzzwords

>I want a laptop for coding but actually I just want it as status symbol

>>57497404
>Isn't an Apple product
>for programming

go away pajeet

>>57497404
Macbooks or thinkpads

>>57497404
X1 carbon

>>57512971
>apple product
>useful for anything other than browsing facebook in starbucks

fuck off tucker

>>57497404
>8+ hours of battery life
>FULL HD screen(I see 1366x768 one more time I'm going to kill myself).
>Portable
>Build quality isn't some tacky plastic shit.
Your only option is Apple. Get a macbook.

>>57513616
>2. Isn't an Apple product

do you understand english ?

>>57513630
It is implied that without Apple the list is impossible to meet.

>>57497902
lurk more faggot

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>>57513642
Thinkpad T92

>>57513642
a machine that runs one OS isn't at all suitable for programming pal.

>>57513760
>portable
anything over 1 kg is by definition unportable

>>57513780
MacBook can run any x86 OS

even though why would you need that when OS X is already the perfect OS?

>>57513780
Holy shit you can't be this fucking retarded

>>57497404

Check out the Xiaomi Books, its not plastic shit, skinny as a macbook without being one, a nice touch pad, etc.

>>57503856
>>57497404
This is also a good choice over the xiaomi book.

>>57513798
it doesn't run linux perfectly, it only performs well and stay cool with OS X.
>>57513801
i'm a POSIX programs developper, i need Linux, can't do it on a facebook machine.

>>57497835
>because it has something you should want equally as much as a programmer and it has a monopoly on that feature, and it fullfills all your other demands.
What's that?

>>57513853
1. is there any device that performs well on linux
plus, it was good enough for the linux creator himself
2. posix stands for Piece Of Shit -ix; Unix (read: OS X) is the proper way

Yoga 900
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/yoga/900-series/yoga-900-13/?menu-id=yoga_900_13

>i7
>16gb RAM
>up to 1TB SSD
>9+ hours of battery life
>13" QHD display, IPS
>USB type C

also it looks pretty fucking nice.

I'm looking at getting a Dell inspiron 7378 or an Asus Q504UA. Can you install Windows 7 on either of these? Will the Windows 10 drivers still work?

>>57497404
this desu senpai

3:2 high resolution screen, premium build quality.

you only need to install linux on it.
another problem is storage.
other than that, this is the fucking best laptop that have ever been created.

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>>57513899
forgot pic

>>57513899
>year old CPU

>>57497776
>i5 botnet

>>57513882
1. yes, thinkpads and all other PCs (bad nvidia drivers though)
2.i'm sorry what ?

>>57513882
>>57513911
>>57513899

Linus endorsed the chromebook pixel
https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/dk1aiW4JjHd

>>57513982
yeah, it`s neat
too bad it`s discontinued and not really portable
>>57513937
Thankfully, macbooks do not use nvidia. this means that the linux support is best.

someone made a backronym - "piece of shit, it sux", probably for a reason.

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this board is pathetic desu

>>57514187
>this means that the linux support is best.
that's not the consensus, linux on a mac is a pain in the ass to install and to maintain.