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What's wrong with the classic interface?

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What's wrong with the classic interface on a desktop or laptop?
the kind in windows 2000 or kde 3
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nothing
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its not touch friendly
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>>57490927
it's out of fashion

that's it
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>>57490927
> implying something is wrong with A E S T H E T I C S
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Ugly
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Nothing, other than the fact that the kids don't like it. Those of us who are in our 30's appreciate it because it's cozy and familiar. My MATE setup is basically that kind of classic interface, except I use multiple workspaces.
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happier times

touch don't dig for some reason?

it's still the best
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>>57490927
Not hardware accelerated nor vsynced, so there's tearing
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>>57490927
It looks ugly and makes you feel you're either living in the 90s or are bottlenecked somehow.
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>>57490961
Why would you want a touch interface on a PC?
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ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuck you
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>>57490940
Only for macfag weeaboos.
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>>57491225
Tttttrrrrriiiiipppppfffffaaaaaggggg!!!!!
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>>57491202
Ask Blamer
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>>57490961
So don't use it on touch devices
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>>57490927
classic interface is the best interface

you can pry my xfce4 from my cold, dead hands
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>>57491266
hes a poorfag hackintosher
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>>57490927
Not edgy enough. You will be laughed at by "modern users" aka hipsters.
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>>57491183
this is the answer to OP's question

I love classic mode, but it causes tearing on everything so I had to ditch it for Aero
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>>57491327
*she
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>>57491316
XFCE da bes. No need for stupid gimmicks. Lean and gets shit done.
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>>57491331
>giving a shit what hipsters think
do you not listen to music you enjoy because someone might mock your taste?
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>>57490927
That shade of grey just screams antiquity to me, not a fan.
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>>57491356
I just answered ops question. Whats your problem?
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>>57490927
it's a ui. everything takes so long compared to just typing the required commands
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>>57491359
Are you 15 or something

Was windows 7 your first OS
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>>57491316
>>57491343
>tfw i want to use TDE (KDE3) but XFCE is too comfy.

Its still not as comfy as Gnome 2 on ubuntu 9 was though.
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>>57490927
Classic looks fucking fantastic on an IPS display. Everything looks so crisp.
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>>57490927
The big thing you will miss is a search box that will let you run programs like you see in Windows 7 or with XFCE's whisker menu.

Without it finding a particular program you want to run can be rather mouse-y and time consuming compared to just typing the first couple of letters of the program and then hitting enter.
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>>57491334
Through same strange combination of madvr settings I have been able to get smooth video playback with the classic them in Windows 7. I changed a lot of things so I'm still not sure how I did it.
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>>57491578
you don't need a compositor to have vsync within application windows
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It's inefficient and archaic.
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>>57490927
You're accusing people have said there's anything wrong with the Windows classic interface?

I personally have always liked it, and I guess the reason why people have moved away from it is... well... slow retardation of the human population or something, it's like eating junk food, but for UI "prettiness". Interfaces like these just simply use less RAM and CPU resources. Why not use them??
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>mah compositor
>mah vsync
what do these have to do with classic interfaces?

just because windows moved off of the win95-style look and got a compositor at the same time doesn't meant they're mutually exclusive
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>>57491732
they are though
if you disable aero on 7 or later, then you lose out on hardware acceleration
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>>57491779
that's just what windows does, the compositor and aero are linked together
but that's /just windows/
a compositor is required to do things like shadows, semi-transparency, etc
but there's no reason why you can't use a compositor with a classic theme

you can use a compositor with any theme on linux/X11, for example
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>>57490927
Absolutely nothing. That's why it had to go away. Whenever something is good, someone younger and dumber will come along and fuck it up.
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>>57491854
we're talking about the windows classic theme baka
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>>57491864
>the kind in windows 2000 or kde 3
he mentioned kde3, so clearly he means any older "desktop metaphor" interface, and not specifically win95-2000's themes
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>>57491896
and clearly everyone else was talking about the windows classic theme as well when they mentioned vsync issues
work on your reading comprehension, or tone down the autism
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>>57491183
>>57491334
wtf even is tearing? I've never had any issues using the classic interface.
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>>57491410
The command prompt is still a gui retard.
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>>57490927

You went through 4 menus to reach something I can get in 2 keystrokes
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>>57491912
it's when the rendering isn't strictly tied to the monitors' refresh cycle
it causes visible discontinuities when moving things like windows around, caused by new information being drawn part way through the refresh cycle

pic is a simulated example

the name comes from the way they appear
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>>57490927
I would be using classic, but Windows 7's classic is basically a clash of XP and 98 shit with random additions that doesn't look genuine. It also lacks WDM / aero hardware acceleration / double buffered vsync so using the aero glass theme has actual performance benefits. If I wanted classic theme, it better be 98, 2000, or nothing at all.
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>>57490927
>What's wrong with the classic interface

Screen tearing.
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>>57491557
personally I never understood windows 7 search
I liked the classic search better, with wildcards, by date, type, size
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>>57492299
I have literally never gotten Windows 7 search to work properly. It's LESS user-friendly than the Windows XP search, as you have to memorize a bunch of keywords (some of which were apparently never even implemented). It's more productive to just search for the file on Google and download it again.
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>>57490944
/Thread
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i love the huge space that comes along with classic
xfce for life
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>>57491912
Something that gamers are really anal about.
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>tfw superior free desktop is so comfy
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>>57490927
Windows 7 needs Aero active or there will be screen tearing.
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>>57492299
It still has that you idiot. Use the search box in the file explorer.
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>>57491716
well, /g/ said in one thread that I'm autistic for using the classic interface and that the classic interface is to blame for AMD drivers crashing.
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>>57493561
I hadn't even noticed screen tearing with the classic theme.then again screen tearing doesn't bother me too much even in games.
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>>57492299
>>57492584
you want a program called "Everything" for doing file-searching on Windows
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How do I get the classic theme on Windows 8?
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>>57495702
You can't. They took it out. Same with 10.

Upgrade to 7, or to Linux.
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I prefer it out of nostalgia. I end up enjoying my time with it more.

I always think of times when my family PC was clogged full of all sorts of malicious shit. Never bothered me, because I was still able to play Newgrounds and Croc at some terrible framerate
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>>57490927
Nothing. It looks aesthetic af. I have that interface on my slow Win7 work PC
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>>57495845
Same, apparently the USAF can't afford computers that are newer than 7 years old.
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im still have the old template and im feeling like a super special snowflake
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I like traditional mate / it's smart and fast
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>>57495870
>USAF
United States of America Faggots?
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on windows, hardware acceleration

>have hardware
>don't use it except when you play quake

if only you could have compositing without spinning cubes and blurry glass.

on linux, X11.

>>57491703
The style itself isn't unless you assume everyone has the motor skills of a chimp and can neither mouse nor click with any degree of accuracy
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>>57495721
Themes are literally just images

http://simplexdesignsart.deviantart.com/art/Windows-Classic-517664235
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>>57491336

was that really necessary
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>>57490961
THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE WRONG, KIDDO
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>>57495903
I'm not sure if that's supposed to be funny?
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>>57495911
Windows itself is archaic in general. You don't even have tabs in your file manager. The UX sucks shit, even without classic
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>>57491331
>Uses a 15 year old computer
>Calls other hipsters
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>>57490927
G O A T
O
A
T
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>>57492049
How autistic do you have to be for this to be a problem that matters in any way? I don't know about you, but I don't find myself ever trying to read something in a window as I'm dragging it around. I move the window where I need it to be and then leave it there.
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Do you guys seriously prefer that multi-level start menu to a more modern version? It has always been a pain to navigate if you have more ten 5 programs installed.

I really don't get it. Especially on old windows versions it was a fucking pain in the ass
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>>57497874
I still have it set to just move the window silhouette/border, then re-draw it in place.
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>>57497874
are you telling me you've never watched a video on your computer?
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>>57490927
Nothing.
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>>57491201
No. As a matter of fact, the XP/2k3 classic interface was (after some tweaking here and there) the best Windows GUI there ever was. But you're probably just a kid who thinks that today's "icons" consisting of monochrome simmplistic shapes thrown together by pajeets are better than the XP era icons, don't you.
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>>57491359
Ye ain't seen the 95/98 shade of grey yet, kid.
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>>57491732
>can't into that 95/98, 2k/ME, and XP/2k3 classic looks are all distinct, let's throw them all in one pot instead
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>>57490927
/thread
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>>57497874
I had tearing issues in my first linux install and it drove me fucking insane, its just really distracting e.g. youre just trying to scroll through a webpage and everything is skipping around. And watching movies its horrible. I'm glad I got it fixed
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>>57490927
Es ist perfekt

/thread
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>>57498205
Fürwahr.

/thread
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no Share Button :^)
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Nothing unless you want to have something more personal maybe.

But for work it's not distracting. The best thing for "productivity" (I know this shit means nothing these days) is to have a lot of shit accessible and easily visible.

Another thing that I like about most classic desktops is the use of colors there. Proper colors. Not full white, not dark shit. Not solarized flat crap. You have grey, which is easier on the eyes. Elements on screen don't take a lot of space for very little. Think about it, they had to fix quite a bunch of stuff in 800x600. Today we have 1080p and it feels pretty shitty.
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>>57497920
It was hardly a pain if you set it to list alphabetically
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>>57493625
What DE is that?
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>>57500378
looks like kde frendo
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>>57497874
oh i completely agree, i couldn't care less about tearing windows when dragging them

in fact, i care more about the small lag you get when vsyncing windows (though still not really)

it doesn't stop you from vsyncing applications (videos, games, etc), so i don't use a compositor at all
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>>57500187
> Today we have 1080p and it feels pretty shitty.
I don't get how small elements makes feel pretty shitty.
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>>57490927
>tfw linux will never look this GREAT
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>>57501596
You made 4 mistakes in the word "SHIT"
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>>57501596
i can admit that having such color-oriented theme across different apps would be cool but looking at your blurry "4" in the clock makes me wanna puke.
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>>57501596
What theme is that looks sharp
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>>57501596
Which media player?
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>>57503675
There is still Haiku OS, though
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>>57503675
feels old, cozy, trusty, strong and nostalgic. i like especially the window borders.
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>>57495702
Classic Shell works nicely.
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>>57490927
>What's wrong with the classic interface on a desktop or laptop?
At least the W2k variety's start menu has a tendency to get either overcrowded or too deep, where you either have multiple columns in Programs, motherfucking scroll arrows at the top and bottom, or layers of menu march across the screen and bounce off the right hand side.

So much easier to hit start, type the first few letters of a program name and hit enter. Win7 was the pinnacle of start menu technology.
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Behold the comfiest theme of the 90's
When you had to compile your window manager and it took hours, like a real man.
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>>57495107
I wish I could integrate Everything into explorer.exe
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>>57495955
w2c
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>>57501829
>this
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>>57505056
i find some odd comfort in these ugly 90s fmv video game window managers
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>>57491316
This. Xfce saved me from Mate/Cinnashit. Figured I would head back to Linux after Win10 botnet. Install Manjaro + Cinnashit and got cancer. Uninstalled Cinnashit installed Mate. Cancer still there. Install Xfce and cured. Windows any version classic shell is best. Linux +Xfce is best and comfy AF.
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>>57505022
>windows 7

credit where credit is due anon, 7 even had internet search disabled by default for some ungodly reason, a baffling downgrade, like the decision to restrict it to edge bing when it was reintroduced in win10
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>>57501829
get a modern resolution man
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>>57503675
beautiful
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>>57490927
>classic interface

Nothing wrong with it. Boring and predictable. Which is totally against what marketing dweebs want, which is why Vista, 8 and 10 and why Windows is even deader to me than it was in 1998.

>it's been 18+years since I switched completely to Linux

Holy shit.
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Still the best OS they ever did. Why can't the miracle repeat itself?
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>>57505274
It's a paradigm difference.

You open the start menu when you want to search for programs or files. You open a web browser when you want to perform a Google search.

When you're searching local files for a phrase that potentially contains sensitive information, you don't expect or want that search to be sent to an external search engine. Nor do you expect a browser to pop up with web results for that search if you hit enter without looking first.
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>>57505322
Who cares? There was never an ambiguity if you were searching the internet or locally.

Install vista with IE7, use it for a week the way it was supposed to be used, don't customize it. Use it the way it is. Come back and tell me it's not years ahead of """modern""" desktop workflows.
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Nothing I loved the classic theme but unfortunately they have removed it and I don't want to use that shitty deviantart theme
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>>57490927
the ONLY thing I don't like about the XP interface is that there isn't a quickly accessible search bar in the start menu, other than that its great. not a major issue anyway though.

I use win7 on the classic interface, and the search bar helps find shit quicker without going into the menus.
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>>57490927
literally the only reason I stay with win7 is the classic interface.

>inb4 spic
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>>57500396
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as KDE, is in fact, Plasma/KDE, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Plasma plus KDE. KDE is not a desktop environment unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Plasma desktop environment made useful by the K corelibs, shell utilities and vital desktop environment components comprising a full desktop environment as defined by Xorg.

Many computer users run a modified version of the Plasma desktop environment every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Plasma which is widely used today is often called “KDE”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Plasma desktop environment, developed by the Plasma Project. There really is a KDE, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the desktop environment they use.

KDE is the desktop environment manager: the program in the desktop environment that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The desktop environment manager is an essential part of a desktop environment, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete desktop environment. KDE is normally used in combination with the Plasma desktop environment: the whole desktop is basically Plasma with KDE added, or Plasma/KDE. All the so-called “KDE” distributions are really distributions of Plasma/KDE.
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>>57505339
Oh god, some one has been searching like me. Shit that the only way to do it is some chink theme off of the internet
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>>57490961
>>57490982
This, and only this. It's just fine and perfectly functional otherwise. Me, I only own convertible tablets laptops at this moment (don't ask) so trying to use this type of menu system is hell.

And Windows 10 is the only OS that is one hundred percent touch friendly.
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>>57505437
>rei
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It's simple, but inefficient in the used space, since it doesn't provide with useful tools in the task bar. Also, task bar is too small IMO.
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install Q4OS
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>>57490927
>>57492299
>>57503675
>>57507725
My dream is to have a tiling window manager that has these kind of window borders.
As far as I know they are all flat and boring.
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>>57500378
it's openbox with fbpanel and pcmanfm for the desktop
theme is adwaita dark with breeze icons
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>>57505056

Holy shit where's the "jack into deck" button?
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>>57507725
Honestly openbox can look a lot like that, too. Especially with all the drop-downs.
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>>57505437
You can use it with external programs in Windows 10 even

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=113024
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>>57501596
windows will never Look this great either
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>classic interface
>nobody talking about CLIs
lol.
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