Laptops

it's pretty fucking shit compared to the previous itterations

>>57486989
only because of the lack of ports useful to only a handful of people?

>>57486989
Not too mention way too fucking expensive. I'd feel like a fool everytime I turned that thing on if I purchased it.

>>57487009
put the price aside, some people like me can buy it without looking at the money

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>>57486980
I used to love Apple.
I currently have an iPhone, a Macbook, and an Applewatch.

I'll still say that the iPhone is the best on the market before the 7, but everything else is shit. The Macbook is okay for writing papers and basic garbage, but it's useless for anything else. I wasted $600, yes SIX HUNDRED fucking dollars on an Apple Watch, and I regret it every day I wake up and look at it. They only sell in the after mark for $200 now and I'd honestly be happy to get that.

Fuck Apple. I will never buy another product from them ever again.

>>57487009
This is how I feel.

>>57486980
It's not Pro, it's just a larger MacBook.

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I need a laptop for school that's dependable, durable, and fast but am working on a limited budget.

Is the Thinkpad T420 a good option? I can get a refurbished model for $200

>>57487029
And you're exactly who it's designed for.

>>57487007
Please tell me how it's justified to spend $20 to charge my new Apple phone on my Apple laptop, where any other laptop would allow me to charge it without buying an adapter?

For that matter, using (almost) any device requires the purchase of an adapter. So much for "Just Werks".

>>57487007
The absence of an SD card reader will most likely make a part of apple's regular customers either buy a 2015 model or jump ship.

Also, Apple went way too fast on the jump towards USB-C, and will most likely suffer from it.

One USB-A and one SD Card slot would have probably been way more useful than just two ports on the already-more-expensive mbp, which effectively makes it a non-throttling macbook with two ports and a slightly beefier GPU.

The mbp w/ memeoji bar should have been the fucking baseline, not a god damned space grey dildo that fucks you with the price before you even use the unit.

>>57487007
it's the 'pro' variety. it should have all the amenities. being a macfag, that enjoys things to just werk on my casual machines, i am pissed. this would be okay for the macbook or air, but the macbook pro should have had old ports PLUS the new usbc stuff. i am actually really upset, because a lenovo p-line computers are more expensive. but that's the new closest thing to my standards.

>>57487036
What is the appeal of the iPhone? Other than a braindead-to-use UI and marketing, I have never heard a justified reason from someone who is actually tech-literate about why it is a better device over Android.

>>57486980
>gimmick emoji bar
>no travel keyboard
>dongles for life
>even more expensive

why should I get this piece of shit over the 2015 MBP?

>>57487148
didn't see
>>57487061
this. fucking. exactly. they have killed the notion of manufacturing a 'pro' laptop. it's just a better-looking macbook now, and a huge fucking scam.

>>57487162
You shouldn't.

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>>57487150
Anon, I'm not exactly what one would call "tech illiterate", but I do have a single reason that keeps me from switching: How it feels in my hand. Yes, something as mundane and simple as that is what keeps me from moving on. When I pick up an iPhone, it just feels like a quality device, like it has a solid weight too it. The touchscreen feels more responsive than any android I've ever used, and the buttons feels responsive and concise.

That being said, I'm going to stick with the 6s as long I can. Apple can fuck right off with their lack of headphone jack.

>>57487150
>Other than a braindead-to-use UI
What is with this stupid meme? Should things be unnecessarily difficult to use? How is easy bad?

>>57487007
You do realize if you buy an iPhone 7 and the new MBP 2016 you cannot charge your phone on your laptop without a physical adapter?

"It just werks" (as long as you also buy this $80 apple dongle)

Oh and for some unfathomable reason the laptop has issues if you use 3rd party dongles, despite those dongles working just fine on any other laptop with USB-C ports.

Apple is clearly running out of ideas. They can't scam their user base anymore

What are the chances Apple will rollback the headphone jack removal from the iPhone 7 (or later release of the phone)?

>>57487200
i am an apple user, not loyal or any bullshit, but i own an air and a 2015 mbp. i do it because my job requires computers in many different settings, and they supplement my w530 and a desktop very well. the "just werks" aspect is nice, as long as you don't buy into the "philosophy" behind it. the new iphone 7 and the new mbp completely ruin that. they are gimicky, avenues for money-grabbing by apple, lacking in features, and hard to use.

>>57487200
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0X2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m

check your facts, kid.

>>57487220
Slim to none.

>>57487220
none, that would mean they admit they fucked up

I just hope other manufacturers won't follow in their steps

>>57487066
Yes. As long as you don't plan on playing graphically intensive games, then it is the perfect laptop if you're on a $200-$300 budget.

If you want blazing fast boot times, make sure to buy a SSD.

>>57487243
you still have to pay $20 for a cable to do that, it doesn't come with the iphone nor the macbook pro

>>57487281

wow you're still trying? Just stop the more you say it creates at least three more questions you can't answer

>>57487007
Everyone is using ports. Not a handful of people. You are delusional.

>>57487162
you shouldn't. the 2016 release helped me purchase the 2015 15 rmbp

I don't give a fuck about MacBooks I don't like applebots, they're stupid.

>>57487359
most of people dont have any dslr therefore no need for an sd card reader
therefore id prefer my laptop as slim as it is and use the dongle ( seriously, it doesnt kill anybody ) only when i need it, which is on rare ocasions
you see, just because some people are using ports doesnt mean everyone is using them
personally i dont see the lack of some ports i dont use as a tragedy, not even a bad thing
calm down, kid, go back to your winshit and enjoy your endless flow of lag, bugs and crashes no matter the specs

>>57487445
>most of people dont have any dslr therefore no need for an sd card reader
You're a fuckin shill, anyone with a camera, phone or other memory format has it and requires it

>slim as possible
the dimensions for the SD card module is well within the dimensions of the laptop

Theres no reason to not have it you fucking shill, thinner =/= better you're losing so much fucking versatility for bullshit like "muh thinness"

>>57487445
So you're the 1 person who has to have thinner and thinner. Why don't you buy a MacBook, then? The Pro isn't supposed to be for you.

>>57487066
>>57487272
if it will be your only computer, i would say get a t430 instead. or a w530 if you don't need to be away from a charger for long periods of time. you can get a nice t430 under $300 and a nice w530 under $375. the boost in performance is worth it, especially if you do actually use cad software or photoshop or whatnot.
(if you don't know *10vs*20 vs*30 denotes one generation of difference each).

Just bought a 2015 2.5ghz 512gb 15" MacBook Pro because the new ones are too expensive and I don't wanna use dongles

>>57488525
How much and where?

>>57486980
The hardware and touch screen feature is nice.

But only c usb? A laptop is supposed to take everything from your desktop and condense it into a laptop.

Completely retarded.

>>57488590
Viking Direct for £1800 ish. The 2.2 is real cheap from there

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>>57486980
because this

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I really think that the 3.1mm decrease in thickness was not worth sacrificing key travel. The keyboard is not unusable but it just isn't pleasant to type on. They should have kept the thickness of the old model. Kept magsafe, kept one usb port and an sd card reader. Also with the old thickness but new display the battery life would have increased.

They should have kept a big distance between the maximum portability Macbook and maximum performance Macbook Pro. It was predictable but did anyone really complain about the Macbook Pro being too thick?

>>57489011
Basically they should have changed nothing but the processor, the gpu, and the screen and it would have been an ideal computer

5 pounds isn't all that heavy and anyone who cares about performance probably wouldn't complain. For everyone else there's the macbook.

The keyboard I've dicked around on and unpleasant is the exact word. I remember reading a review about it that said you can feel the impact in your bones. Doesn't sound fun if you type a lot.

>>57488860
holy shit this image really shows how fucking shit the MBP 2016.

I don't mind it having USB Type-C only.
What i mind is paying so much money for a last gen dual-core and no dGPU on the 13"
And the Touch Bar should be optional in every model, i really don't think it's useful at all.

>>57489011
Underrated Post

>>57487066
if they made this with a non-shit trackpad and a non-shit screen, I'd be sold

>>57489576
>I don't mind it having USB Type-C only.
You should, because MagSafe is the best DC connector for laptops and USB-A is still in wide use, even by Apple.

>>57488860
Too soon.

>>57489011
I want to know who is asking for all these razor thin devices.

>>57487200
If you bought a 2016 MBP *and* an iPhone 7, chances are you can buy the USB C to lightning cable with the lost change in your sofa.

>>57489682
No need for the trackpad. I have a MBP, but that clitmouse is awesome.

Thinkpad screens are generally subpar, tho. They do make a few nice ones, but they are not usually what you find on the second hand market.

>>57489011
I tried out the new MacBook in an apple store and the keys are actually really nice

Should I buy a 2015 mbp or just get an xps 15

>>57489752
mbp, worth the money imo

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>>57489698
You can still get MagSafe with an adapter.

https://youtu.be/EGPIuHMTjLM

Pretty soon the Macbook Pro will be running a SoC class processor to go with its SoC ram and connectivity.

An Odroid that costs $25 has better connectivity.

>>57489752
I bought the 2015 a few months ago.

Sooo glad I did.

>>57486980
Because it's $1500 overpriced. I can kind of see the use for an air though

>>57489885
They're still pretty expensive

The screen is really great though. You have to give Apple credit for that when everyone else uses 16:9 panels in their laptops. It's also very bright.

has anyone bought a refurbished older model MBP from apple?

Besides the lack of ports, what is wrong with the new MBPs?

>getting a MacBook
>When best buy is offering the surface pro 4 128GB for $500

Why spend extra on shit you don't need?

>>57490689
>meme tablet

>>57490638
keyboard

>>57488717
you could've just bought a new MBP

>>57487007
and slower cpu
and like 300$ more expensive the base model with no touch-bar(and a lot more in other countries)
and worse battery
and worse keyboard

>>57487066
youre going to look like such a fucking autist

just get a regular laptop

>>57489808
That's fucking garbage.

>>57487185
these guys apply their usual autism regarding desktop OSes to everything else. The last thing I want is to fight against my phone.

>>57490974
i have a thinkpad t420 and i'm pretty fucking normal

>>57487175
check out a16z podcast on this, will change your mind about 7.

https://a16z.com/2016/09/13/apple-iphone7-watch2-etc/

>>57491014
I don't know how to break this to you, but you are posting on /g/. You're outside the spectrum of 'normal'.

>>57491057
Nah.

>DUDE JUST BUY A 2015 MBP
>save only $100

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Zen MBPs when?

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Long story short I spilled beer on my laptop, shorted out the hard drive :/. So I have two options: get a new hard drive, or buy a new small laptop. Taking into accout that I just use my laptop for watching videos, surfing the web and editing documents (no gaming, no video editing, etc.), and would have a barebones Arch with i3 and no DE, should I get a new hard drive (would probably be ssd), which would be cheaper, or a new mini-lap/netbook that would be a little more expensive, but much more portable? If SSD, what size?

>>57490730
>Great screen
>Great stylus
>Amazing battery life
>Type cover works extremely well

Hey guys, what's a good laptop? I plan on getting one, mainly for emulators and some lightweight programming, altho a powerful laptop that can play slightly modern games would be nice, what's a good option for a roughly 300-400 USD budget?

>>57491318
Just admit that all you will do on your laptop is play league of legends and watch anime. In that case, the alienware is perfect for you.

Apple cant innovate anymore because the company is run by marketing people, Steve Jobs explained how that happened to Xerox in this video clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1rXqD6M614
now its happening to Apple

>>57491386
what alien ware model can you get for 400 bucks?

>>57491386
>play league of legends
>watch anime
HAH! You'd wish!
[spoiler]My internet is too shitty to do either[/spoiler]

>>57491318
>altho a powerful laptop that can play slightly modern games would be nice

Compromises is what makes laptop shit in every aspect. If you want to game, get some gaming laptop but don't cry about battery life or portability. If you want to work on it with programs that are not demanding in CPU/GPU, a macbook is perfectly fine. I'm trying the 2016 MBP without touch bar and I'm pleased so far.

>>57491437
>a macbook
I really care about playing at least old games and programming, and I can say from personal experience emulators on Mac are shit and installing Linux is a nightmare, I'd much rather a normal computer. Also, what are some gool laptops, both in the power and the battery life/portability ends of the spectrum?

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Who else EXCITED?

>>57491454
>I can say from personal experience emulators on Mac are shit
openemu is god tier

top row keys are touch... fuck that

>>57491454
Programming is perfectly fine on the mac, I'd say it's better than linux or windows in that regard. Gaming and emulators - would look for a different laptop.

>>57487061
This, desu, I don't understand this obsession with making the machine thinner and thinner. I don't give a shit if it's half a pound heavier or a few millimeters thicker. I just want a laptop that actually decent specs, battery life and will not overheat as soon as I open anything more demanding than a browser and a twitter client.

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>>57491518
>programming better on mac than linux
please /g/tfo

>>57491576
If you wanna get actual work done, yeah.

>terrible keyboard
>ridiculous price increase
>no sd card slot
>no magsafe
>usb-c only when even other apple products dont support it

but hey at least it's a nice colour

>>57491614
Keyboard is fine in my opinion, see your point about the other flaws. Though I personally welcome USB-C only.

Positives: Much better sounding speakers, great display, very good battery life, more portable.

>>57490638
Read the thread you fucking retard

I recently bought a Macbook and I am looking for a good browser.
Firefox is supposedly shit on MacOs.
But Safari can't even properly play webms because there is no native support and the VLC browser plugin a shit.

Are there any Mac users here at all anyway?

>>57486980
no ports, I own a 2015 rMBP with the dedicated GPU and it's going to be my last Mac if Apple doesn't reverse course. I already dual boot Windows 10 Pro and macOS on it so I am not particularly loyal to Apple.

>>57487093
I use my SD card reader regularly with my mirrorless camera but that's not even the only issue. I also connect my Mac to external displays via HDMI and DisplayPort regularly. The removal of this functionality means I will need a different computer in the future. Plus, not having USB-A? Seriously? On a $2000+ laptop? Fuck off Apple, you goddamn kikes.

>>57487093

>Apple went way too fast on the jump towards USB-C

No, fuck you. You clueless moron. Slow transitions are the cause of multiple standards which do the same thing and a world of incompatibility in shit like displays. There was decades of refinement and device shrinking and now USB-C is perfect for everything, from phones to display connections and so it should be moved to as quickly as possible.

>>57491598
you got me cracking up 10/10

>>57487150

>braindead-to-use UI and marketing

A bit late for this canned response when most of the developed world uses an iPhone. You're just an outlier autist who doesn't interact with anyone, clearly.

>>57491769
No worries, one day when you'll find yourself surrounded by people actually working in the IT you'll find plenty of people that know their shit and use macbooks. Unless apple fucks up more until then.

Everyone in their first semester of their CS BA thinks like you :^)

>>57491829
>CS BA
>BA
No wonder they use macbooks they're fucking retards

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>>57491455
yay
i bought something online so i had to take a screenshot of it and then upload it so other people will know that i bought something

>>57491844
don't cut yourself on that edge bud

>>57491729
you better fucking help me out with this shit

>>57491670
>Though I personally welcome USB-C only.
You're the problem.
>more portable.
For who, chemotherapy patients? Who was having trouble with a 3lb, 18mm thick laptop?

>>57491729
>ly play webms
Who cares? Firefox or Chrome should have properly functioning hardware acceleration in Yosemite and above.

>>57491891
Higher portability is now a negative point?
And no, USB-C is actually a good thing. USB-A needs to die off quickly. Though the transition phase is annoying without adapters, yes.

>>57491903
Firefox and especially Chrome are pretty shitty on OSX in comparison to Safari unforunately.

>>57491952
>Higher portability is now a negative point?
Thinness at the expensive of literally everything else has been a negative point since about 2008, now.
>USB-C is actually a good thing
As a replacement for mDP Thunderbolt ports? Sure. For literally all I/O on the device? No.

>>57491968
>For literally all I/O on the device? No.
why?
because your devices don't have USB-C connectors?

It's undeniably superior in all ways

>>57491968
>For literally all I/O on the device?
Yes. I don't need different ports, that is why USB was so successful. USB-C is just the next iteration and you'll be glad in the future.

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Because they are faggots.

>>57491987
>why?
Because it breaks compatibility with everything for no real reason? There's plenty of space for ports on the older retina MBP. It's only superior to mDP in that it is reversible. It has really nothing on USB-A other than being reversible and smaller. Even just adding back MagSafe and HDMI would be a huge improvement.

>>57491455
>>57492003
I don't understand how people are buying the Touch Bar version without trying it first, it's a huge investment that you might not like.
I, personally would try it at a store first, because from what i've seen online so far seems like its useless.

I don't get all that bitching about USB-C.
MBP 2015 only has two USB ports. that's two, but that's not many either.
So people usually use a USB port anyway.
boo fucking hoo you'll have to buy a new 15$ accessory for your 2.5k laptop.
get with the fucking times

>>57492034
Seems extremely useful for me. I do a lot of photo and video editing via laptop.

But honestly, the main reason I am upgrading is I'm about to have to send my other MacBook Pro in for repair(complete screen replacement), and I figured rather than be out a laptop for a week, I'd buy a new one, transfer my shit over, then send the old for for repair and sell it once it comes back.

Autism, I know.

>>57492061
no, not really.
macs are super price stable so you'll get a good chunk of money back anyway.

>>57492034
You can return it for 2 weeks where I live, no questions asked. Good opportunity to try it out.

That fucking keyboard/trackpad tho. Shit is so fucking gay.

>Buy Macbook Pro
>take it out of the box and after 5 minutes of clicking your preferences in you're done
>Buy Dell XPS
>have to deal with 10 hours of updating and getting rid of bloatware before you can start using it

>>57492072
>macs are super price stable so you'll get a good chunk of money back anyway.

Exactly. I've been doing it for years, and one of my favorite parts about Apple shit is retail value. Apple Care expires in March, so I'll have a whole new computer with updated care, and get lots of new features.

I'll probably sell it to a family member for a super low price, and since I'm sending it in they will fix all the small issues I've had with it. What a lot of people don't understand about the benefits of Apple is the customer service. It is better than literally every other company. I can get someone in a chat window in the middle of the night, have them diagnose a problem, it's fantastic.

Another thing people are seemingly missing with this laptop is that it is designed as a docking/dual role use computer. I was about to personally sell my MBPr and buy a Mac Pro for home use, but with the inclusion of this laptop I will just buy one of the LG 5K monitors when they are available in December, and be able to dock my laptop to the monitor(which has extended ports) via a single cable which will keep everything charged and handle ALL data transfer. Even I am a power user, but I rarely use the ports on the computer for anything of merit while not at a desk. The only thing is I use the SD card slot, but now that I am rocking cameras with Cfast/Cflash I need a dongle anyway, so no big deal there.

Many people hate it, but this laptop solves a few of the problems that I was currently experiencing. Also looking forward to the updated screen, and Touch ID for multiple reasons.

>>57492159
>buying a mac pro
they're just pathetic tho
would rather build a hackintosh

>>57492126
You're going to struggle to hold the cum inside your balls when they release an updated Apple Pencil for the new larger trackpad. Then let's see who's really gay.

So about my browser question

>>57492207
>browser
Just use chrome

>>57492193
That thought crossed my mind as well. The G5 case is the epitome of sexiness, but I did love the small form factor of the new trashcan pro.

People can make fun of it, but the It Just Werks is an actual reason to buy Mac shit. Premium quality costs premium prices.

>>57492359
The problem is the Mac Pro costs WAY too much for a single socket system and the 12 core system doesn't have enough jigglehertz to be compelling when compared with a dual socket machine you can have for the same price, expensive engineering porn aside. Then you get the same dongle hell you get with the new MacBook Pro because it has no internal expansion slots. The Mac Pro is a compelling machine, but not in the price bracket it competes in.

>>57492431
That's why I ultimately moved away from it. That, and they haven't updated it in a very long time.

>>57486980
let me see

>stupidly thin
>not enough ports to warrent "pro use"
>no magsafe
>keyboard is fucking garbage
>nobody is gonna care about the touch bar
>shit specs for the price you are paying
>over priced as fuck

i was in the apple store today and most of the staff even agreed with me that it wasnt very good.

>>57492522
I think Ivy Bridge-EP is still fairly competitive. I mean, people are still buying Haswell chips and those are from the same era. Not reducing the price is absolutely mental, though.

>>57487066
>for school

this board is for people over the age of 18

>>57491829
>I work at a start up macs the best.
TFW I have been in the industry for 10 years kid.

>>57489011
imo they should of just kept it the same and just swap the thunderbolt 2 ports with thunderbolt 3. The 2015 macbook pro was god tier

>tfw rocking my late 2013 13" retina

best laptop i've ever owned. Wish it had a bit more grunt in the graphics department but its perfect in almost every way.

>>57492675
They had room for a discrete GPU, I don't know why they didn't. Would have been godly.

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>>57486980
>wifi doesn't work if a usb hard drive or video adapter is plugged in

>>57492716
IT
JUST
W O R K S
O
R
K
S

>>57492714
if the razer blade can do it with a fucking gtx 1060 so can apple.

>>57492714
I have the 15" from that year and has a discrete GPU.

>>57492733
Exactly, one side of the vents below the display is completely empty!
>>57492762
We are talking about the 13".

>>57492796
I'm aware just pointing out there was a model that had it.

>>57491195

This... buy an old model and it's still overpriced.

>>57492675
>imo they should of just kept it the same and just swap the thunderbolt 2 ports with thunderbolt 3
I could live with this, although I'd rather have a Thunderbolt 2 and Thunderbolt 3 so I'd never need a dongle.

After I'm done with my 2015 Pro I'll have to buy a Dell or some shit

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What is the best laptop for content creators? Or rather, which is the smartest buy? I do batch photography/4k video/music. It needs to be powerful and have a great screen, but I have a PC I built for gaming so that isn't important.

>pro
>short for prolapse

>>>/cm/

>>57488860
Being a 2015 rMBP user, the only thing that bothers me on the new one is the lack of an SD reader.
Everything else is pretty much useless.

Getting a USB to USB-C dongle is easy and cheap enough to actually bother me.

>>57493490
Oh, that and the lack of magsafe.

>>57493490
Tell me the 2015 doesn't have the perfect mixture of ports.

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Shit specs, no magsafe, no ports, worse battery, AMD GPU, shit keyboard, xboxhueg trackpad leaves no room for palms. 2013 rMBP was fucking perfect, and they ruined it. They should hook up a generator to Steve's coffin, because that fucker is spinning like a turbine.

>>57493666
Excuse me, I meant the 2015 rMBP.

>>57487150
iMessage. I wish I was joking.

>>57493680
iMessage is great for native end-to-end encrypted messaging with the uninitiated.

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https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/03/2016-macbook-pro-thunderbolt-compatibility-issues/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o

>dual-core processor (not even kaby lake)
>no 10-bit HEVC and VP9 HW decoding
>have to have a bunch of dongles at all times
>can't use any existing TB3 devices
>can't use USB and wifi at the same time
>keyboard shallower than a hollywood slut
>keyboard louder than a sheboon nigress
>proprietary SSD
>memetouch emojibar
>no USB-A
>no escape
>soldered ram
>tamper tape on battery screws

APPLEL IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

MACFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>57493666
DEVIL TRIPS

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Call me autistic or poor but seriously unless you need a portable desktop for intensive work (3d modeling or video editing or even gaming I guess) why spend more than like 100 bucks on a laptop.. other than the aforementioned reasons in some cases all you really need a laptop for is basically web browsing, text editing and watching videos. I have a Thinkpad t61p I bought for 60 bucks and a 64gb ssd and 500gb HDD and it does all that + old school runescape just fine .. I just find it silly to spend too much on a laptop when you can build a desktop that is pissloads more powerful at that price point.

>>57493735
I'm not autistic or poor but I agree with you.

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>Retina screen with ghosting/screen burn in issue
>Lack of ports
>Thermal throttling
>Keyboard and palm wrest becomes uncomfortable hot during heavy use


Why do people hide the fact retina screens have an issue with images burning into it? It's as bad as the Samsung AMOLED meme

I've worked in a service/repair shop for 13 years and in 2012 we begun working on macs too and just about every one that came in aside from ones that were almost brand new (hah, brand new laptop having to come in for repairs!) all had an issue with ghost images on the screen. At login screen you'd always see spotify, facebook or itunes burned into the screen XD

>>57492646
If you had managed to get past the 11th grade you would understand.

>>57493791
>Retina screen with ghosting/screen burn in issue
What the hell are you doing that this happens?

>>57493812

It's a common problem with them. Leave it on for 12 hours straight with the same window open without any screensaver and don't allow the screen to turn off and the image will burn into it. we always get them in with people thinking it's fixed simply by replacing the LCD connector. Soon as we tell them it's $300 for a new screen they tell us to go fuck ourselves then they go to Apple then they come back to us after Apple tells them it's $800 for a new screen.

>>57486989
This. Also
>pro
>>57487007
Why aren't tenkeyless keyboards (or with even less keys) more popular, then? Normal people don't use all those buttons; they're useful only to a handful of people. Scroll lock, pause break? Home, End, PageUp, PgDn - who fucking uses these? A handful of people, right?

>>57493624
I guess it does. Although I've never used the HDMI nor the Thunderbolt ones.

>>57493833
a common problem for the first model ever in 2012 and even then they changed manufacturers and had a recall. so shut the fuck up you idiot.

>>57488860
DELETE THIS

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>>57487342
>being this much of an apple cuck

>>57493833
>Leave it on for 12 hours straight with the same window open without any screensaver and don't allow the screen to turn off and the image will burn into it
Ok I'll add 'doing fucking nothing' onto my computer using schedule.

Retard.

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Im looking for a laptop that is thin and doesn't have insane 4k and ultra high graphixxx'

>>57487150
I don't own any i-device, but all I hear is how iMessage is so great and they won't ditch their iPhones because of it.

but it seems to be just any other messaging app to me. Maybe it's the cult following and "eww green bubbles" trash.

>>57494427
yes imessages is used by people i care about so.

>>57494439
but they can use other apps...

that doesn't tell me anything about why iMessage is so great.

>>57494045

Nice propaganda. It happens to all of them.

>>57486980
1. Because it's different. We know /g/ can't tolerate change.
2. It makes their Thinkpads look even older and more obsolete that they were last year.

>>57489011

What does the thinness help with? Do people have some obscure storage slot for their laptop with only 15mm spacing?

>>57491796
>Most of the developed world use an iPhone

You do know that iOS doesn't even have an above 50% market share in its biggest market, the US, right?

I have a shitty old-ass Compaq 610 and I want to get a second-handed Thinkpad T420, thoughts? Mostly for uni, programming, maybe playing a few lightweight games (I already have a desktop for that purpose), planning to use /g/nu+Linux

>>57487764
This is fucking retarded. The minor boost is not worth the MASSIVE sacrifice in design and keyboard quality

>>57487492
People with dslr can get a windows laptop then. If they require sd-card reader then they should not be stupid and buy a computer that doesn't easily facilitate it.

>thin laptop
>limited battery life
>imagine doubling the thickness and putting a battery twice as thick inside
>20+ hours of battery life
>people would pay $500 more for it and it would only cost like $35 more to do this
>Apple, you so stupid
>stupid fucking people will be the death of us all

>>57496073
>imagine doubling the thickness
That's where you went wrong.

>>57487492
>>57488637
>>57489698
>>57491614
>>57487093
>>57491968
>>57492010
>>57492608
>>57493666
>>57493722

People WANT less ports. It is the most popular apple laptop. There will likely be even less ports in the next one. People are itching for reasons to buy more apple products and now people have access to all sorts of dongles.

Proper apple pros don't need ports.

>>57487631

The pro is supposed to be for people who don't want to have tons of ports and who like it thin.

>>57491729

If Apple products don't support webm then it means its obsolete.

>>57491891
3lb is quite a lot for the average apple user. Don't need cancer to think that is incredibly heavy.

>>57496073
People WANT less battery life for a thinner computer. Can remove some battery and some ports instead.

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>>57496160
>The pro is supposed to be for people who don't want to have tons of ports and who like it thin.
>pro
>doesnt have more ports

>>57496160
>If Apple products don't support webm then it means its obsolete.
yeah idk what their problem is

>>57491302
This isn't /sqt/, but if you can replace the hard drive and the whole thing still works then just buy a new hard drive.
Also, netbooks are severely underpowered, so be careful when doing things like typing or moving the mouse.

t. guy who had a netbook for 5 years straight

>>57491759
I never got this whole usb-c display thing
>Using a serial bus
>For transferring at least fucking 6 parallel signals together

>>57487009
this, had they been launched at the previous models prices, I would've gotten one, I'll just get an XPS 13 then

>>57493833
>Leave it on for 12 hours straight
Who does that on any computer, let alone a Facebook machine? Default power settings turn the screen off.

>>57486980
>why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYVjIjBMx6o

Next time google it, faggot.

>>57496160
does PRO stand for consumer?

>>57489011

I've seen reviews legitimately claim that the 13" was a half pound heavier than other competing models like the XPS 13 and that this was a serious reason to not consider the MacBook pro. People seriously will bitch about a few millimeters. The review was a LaptopMag one I think.

>>57489808
Thunderbolt 3 on the new Pro's is different from USBC only chanrging in the Macbook 12"

>>57494509
can and dont. its the default messenger and its pretty good.

>>57496967
why is he bitching so much about the keyboard?
t. posting with a blue switch mechanical

>>57496073

The old 15" rMBP had the largest battery legally allowed in the US. Barring a major breakthrough from Intel, battery life wouldn't get much better.

>>57497172
>The old 15" rMBP had the largest battery legally allowed in the US
Source? 99.5 watt-hours is a pretty substantial battery and it sounds like they intentionally kept it under 100.

>>57490963
Not a 15" with touch bar.

>>57497172
>>57497233
Nevermind, I found it. So the TSA doesn't allow passengers to carry computers with more than 8 grams of equivalent lithium content or 100 watt-hours (wh) of power per battery]

>>57496160
How can future have less ports? Will they ship a laptop with 0 ports?

>>57487150
only bought one for the imessage groupchat

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>>57486980
Because this

What is /g/'s opinion on the Toshiba Satellite?

>>57497381
>Asus
>ROG
Yea, no.

>>57497381
So much wrong, MacBook Pros offer 2560x1600 and 2880x1800 displays on the 13" and 15" models.

>>57489737
Thinkpad screen is shit, I can't find one with HiDPI in my local market.

>>57496160
>3lb is quite a lot for the average apple user. Don't need cancer to think that is incredibly heavy.
So, you think Apple's user base is literal children?

>>57497381
>FOUR HOURS of browsing
Yeah that's totally acceptable. Typical /g/ completely ignoring the most important spec on a portable device.

That's just web browsing. You wouldn't even get through a single movie on that battery.

It's a shame, because OSX and their hardware had some potential. They could have gone a different way and they fucked up. Now they have this piece of garbage that still happens to cost a fortune (maybe even more than previously), isn't as perfect as it should be for the fucking price and has a system that gets progressively slower and has more issues without adding any features worth a shit.

>>57498806
They've been getting a lot of backlash, so maybe if this year's sales are low they'll fix their mistakes on the 2017 refresh.

>>57491844
Ah see but they will actually get a job or run a business later.

>>57499012
I don't think the 15" Macbook Pro will ever be the Xeon and Quadro/FirePro machine that its competitors now are.

Is a 2015 rMBP that much better than the 2013? Both with 1TB SSD/16GB RAM/dGPU, and the 2015 model is about $500 more.

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>>57499629
well the ssd is blistering fast
everything loads and werks in a blink of pajeet's eyes
better money/perf for the 2013 though

>>57494405
Dell XPS 13 or Thinkpad X Series

>>57495652
>massive

kys nerd

>>57494509
With the updates in IOS10, iMessage is probably the most powerful messaging app on the market right now. It just does it all - there's app integration, bazallions of stickers/emojis available for download, bubble effects for messages, handwriting/drawing tools (w/ effects, and the ability to save presets, AND the ability to superimpose on photos), granular read receipt settings, camera shortcuts, etc.

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>>57489907
I wanted to buy a MacBook Pro 2015 through my school's tender but I found out Apple fucking INCREASED the goddamn price of the rMBP 2015 after they announced the MacBook Pro 2016. What the fuck?

>>57500161
It's the New Coke strategy.

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>>57500173
It's the "demand for the 2015 MBP actually increased after announcement of the 2016 MBP" strategy. Fuck Apple. The 2015 MBP is the best thing they've ever released.

>>57492225
>botnet

>>57492646
smrt

>>57499914
i have a *20 keyboard on my w530. it isnt that important though.

What laptops display 4k well?

>windows
>1080p
>ok battery(~7 hours)
>$700-$1000 price range

What have you got, /g/?

>windows
found your problem here

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Anybody buy laptops off AliExpress?

>>57494292

what a great rebuttal champ.

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>>57486980
Macbook Pro 2015 is down to 1299 EU
is this the best move now ?

>>57503688
The 13" version?
I'm thinking of a 2013 15" since the 2015 is like 30% more expensive.

>>57503820
yes 13"
does this thing runs linux without problems ?
i am sold on its screen, not sure about the rest.

Can't install Linux on it. Useless.

>>57496160
>The pro is supposed to be for people who don't want to have tons of ports and who like it thin.

brain dead retard fuck

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>>57503820
I got the 2015 model new on ebay, ran this earlier

don't regret the purchase yet

>>57504004
How much, and what specs? Got a link?

>>57487175
>fucking this

i honestly don't know why but the curves and innovative design of Apple products just make me gravitate towards it. It fits my needs well, but if there is a device(s) that are overall better for my lifestyle over my iPhone, iPad, and MacBook, then I probably will never come across it because Apple has me bent over and moaning for more, metaphorically of course.

Are there any unibody macs with matte displays?

>>57504421

yes.
airs and pros, and the 2010 macbook

>>57504010
Paid $1900 with free shipping

2.5GHz i7
16GB of RAM
512GB SSD
AMD Radeon R9 M370X

It was a seller on ebay, if you look around you can find decent deals. No link as they aren't selling it for that cheap anymore. They come with a warranty.

>>57496160

People responded seriously to this? I can't believe how easy it is to troll this board. Off yourself mate, shitty low quality trolling is annoying these days.

>>57492034
That's exactly what I'm doing. Also waiting for benchmarks and reviews to come in. I already tried out the keyboard. The fact that it clicks makes a difference.

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>>57487445
>most of people dont have any dslr therefore no need for an sd card reader

You can use it for other things.
I was gonna use a SD card expansion to increase storage.

>>57504843
I did this for awhile but the SD card reader on the MacBook Air anyway is too slow to take advantage of the maximum speeds of higher microSD cards.

Another thing that is funny is Apple changed the depth of the SD card slots on multiple MacBooks, probably to prevent people from easily using things like this. The SD card slot on my 2015 MBP is shallower than my 2014 MacBook Air by 1mm.

>>57493722
Holy fuck i almost died laughing lmao

Murder by laughter.

Literally had to lie down in bed trying to recover so i could breath again, applefags completely btfo.

>>57493722
I had seen the video before but this is the first time I've read that article, jesus christ Apple. A whole new low

>>57489808
Have fun when that shit breaks off in your charging port.

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>>57487150
>t. autist

>>57486980
Needing a dongle to plug the newest iPhone into the newest MacBook Pro says plenty.

I don't mind only having USB C/thunderbolt ports. I do have an issue with the lack of GTX 1060 and lack of 32GB Ram options.

>>57505563
>needing a dongle
sure dude

>>57487007
>only because of the lack of ports useful to only a handful of people?
You are completely fuckin retarded.

I hope you get paid well for shill.

>>57505584
>with the lack of GTX 1060
Who cares about this, MacBooks have never been gaming laptops nor should they be now.

>>57505538
you have 4 more so its not too bad

>>57505646

Would make them competitive alternatives for content creation. As it is now, there are better options for people who need to do 4k video/batch photography.

>>57500139
Should i get an ipod 6 so i dont get completely cucked?

you don't really realize how fucking awful the keyboard is until you see one in person. The keys hardly move at all. Watching someone type on one made me physically cringe.

>>57496160
>Proper apple pros don't need ports.
OH.MY.GOD.

Does your retard hurt? Are you crying of pain at night?

>>57494045
>>57494324
>>57496946
Wow, you apple fags are total assholes.

Are you that bitter that your expensive toy is complete and utter shit?

>>57502248
I might get a stinkpad from aliexpress. Is there a massive sale at the moment? The chinks are probably freaking out about Don's 25% tax.

>>57505662
Uses way too much power

>>57505662
The Pro 460 should be more than enough.

>>57506333

Sure, if I want the bottom of my MBP to be 99°C.

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how did I do?

>>57506498
>HDD

breh

>>57506379
it won't be, the GPU will throttle long before it reaches that temperature.

>>57506516
plan to swap it out with a spare 500gb ssd that i was suppose to use for gaming, realize that games are shit anyway

>>57506379
I'm not sure why you think the bottom of the laptop would ever reach 99C under normal operation.

>>57506669
All laptops get hot when im around ;)

>>57490689
Core m and no included keyboard makes this a not so great deal

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I'm loving it