Magic technology

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>>57482155
How the fuck do these heavy metal cylinders fucking fly?

>>57482161
they flap their wings

>>57482165
*they're

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>>57482155
>analog to analog signal
>can't be explained
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

>>57482175
Fuck you

>>57482175
>*they're
They flap they are wings?

>>>/lit/

>>57482359
those chinese are clever fellers

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>>57482359

>>57482359
>warm, peeled, hard boiled egg
Well, mystery solved
>I was expecting the shell to be square too, but fuck your logic, rite

>>57482155
I'm using that kind of a CC adapter in order to listen to my MP3 player in my car via they car's radio.

My car, a Volkswagen Golf, turned 20 this september and is the living proof that German engineering used to be best.

>>57482387
Spotted the newfag.

>>57482643
mine will turn 20 next year. also using cc adapter

>>57482588
That's a thin laptop

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http://www.dvdrewinder.com/

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>>57482588
That's a lot of dongles

>>57482155
My mate has this in his 90s Volvo, fucking blew my mind because I had just assumed he had manually wired his aux.

>>57482155
meme magic

>>57482387
Of course, if they flap they're wings you illiterate fuck.
Have you seen a bird flying without flapping its wings?

>>57482643
Ben?

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>>57482155
I theorize that it somehow magnetizes a tape in real time so it can be read by the cassette head

>>57482161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqByUi5DRo :)

>>57483625
mfw it's the actual approach of neurosciencetists and their research

I use one of those in an old CD player
The cassette player itself makes some noise when playing but the quality of the output sound is very good however.

>>57482161
What's actually magic is the low fares you can get on airlines which fly this thing

God bless Boeing

>>57484453
I think it's just a magnet on in the cassette and there's no tape

>>57482161
Difference in air pressure on the top and bottom of the wing. Fluids moving quickly have a low pressure relative to slower moving fluids. An air foil on the wing forces air to move quicker over the top than bottom, causing a pressure differential that keeps the airplane up. What's crazy is that you keep that thing up with a ton of random impacts of air particles against the wing.

>>57482155
IIRC it's just simulating the effects of a standard tape. Look up how a tape works and you'll learn how these work. It has a metal surface at the point where the reader would traditionally contact a tape.

>>57482253
Moving electrical charges induce magnetic fields. Natural magnets such as iron have permanent electric current within them.

>>57482588
Idiots pay Apple for shitty products and have to use shitty adapters to use their shitty products.

>>57484638
Why can planes fly upside down, then?

Checkmate, physicists

>>57482588
He doesn't look very happy

>>57484638
>causing a pressure differential that keeps the airplane up.
Part of growing up is unlearning the K12 lies-to-children, anon.

>>57482352
Actually has magnetism been explained?

>>57484638
ur pretty dumb but probably think ur smart

>>57485017

He probably spent the rest of his rent money on those adapters that barely work.

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>>57484453

Hmmm.. So the headphone jack outputs electrical audio signals... now only if we had a way to translate electricity into magnetism

>>57482155
Primitive microphone. Carbon particles are compressed by a vibration-sensitive diaphragm. When the particles are compressed they conduct electricity better.
Basic speaker. Variations in field current to coil of an electromagnet causes a diaphragm to vibrate.
Tape deck head senses magnetic tape's arrangement of particles.
IT'S LITERALLY MAGNETS.

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http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/we-still-don-t-really-know-how-bikes-work

>>57485673
except we still don't really understand exactly how magnetism works

>>57485697

Not really though

we don't understand "why" they work

but we understand how they work very, very well.

>>57485697
It's enhanced gravity. Because polarity.

>>57485744
And no one understands how gravity works without adding additional imageniary mass to fudge calculations to match observation.
Dark Matter is 2XXX ather.
>Light is a wave therefore there has to be a medium!
>It has a stronger gravitational field so it must have more mass!
Science is a cargo cult at this point

>>57485697
If you dig deep enough, we don't understand how anything at all works. But we understand magnetism well enough for all practical purposes.

>>57482643
My Subaru Impreza turned 24 this summer.
But Japanese cars are highly improved for the European/German market compared to versions for US/home market.

Also:
Fuck Volkswagen!

>>57485744
Explain then how the polarity is constant and unchanging in a controlled environment then.

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>>57482588
>fucker doesn't even have money to buy a table for his tv.
you got bamboozled mohinder.

>>57485677
There is no way, I feel like vice is just uninformed here.
Anyone know?

>>57485837
Well technically we don't really understand inertia, so I guess it's true

>>57485090
not him, but google bernoulli's principle

>>57482165

thats actually not far from the truth, see how the wings are bent upwards?

thats because that is a still photo, it just captured the frame in the exact moment the wings where up instead of being down.

if you see it in a video, you can see the flapping

>>57484638
>Moving electrical charges induce magnetic fields. Natural magnets such as iron have permanent electric current within them.
Actually, in a sense, all substances have such electric current in them formed by electrons moving in the field of atom's nucleus. However, ferromagnetic materials can have those currents oriented in the same direction on a large scale, allowing the net magnetic field to be large.

>>57482155
ha, I had one of those for my old car. used it on my ipod. Fantastic device. Very straightforward

>>57482359
>egg cuber
for what purpose

>>57484638
Dunning-Kruger effect in full action.

>>57485837
yes kind of, gravity is at the level of understanding of lighting hitting the tree=>came from clouds =>tree burns
or proverbial apple
apple falls=>there is gravity
why? what? how? nobody has a clue

>>57482387
Haven't you noticed that people here ALWAYS write the wrong version of there, their and they're?

Of course most english speaking people are idiots, but you should have spotted that /g/ is unusually idiotic.

>>57484666
they actually can't, they lose altitude that way

>>57486549
Red bull pilots

>>57485135
The Ising model for ferromagnets is pretty adequate for most purposes, though more exotic materials still need better explanations. In the case of something straightforward like oxygen, a paramagnet, it is not so hard to explain after some introduction to MO theory.

>>57485918
>not him, but google bernoulli's principle
not him, but please anon go goole how lift works and why. Bernoulli accounts for like 5% of total lift generated.

>>57483625
*it is

>>57486405
There are theories that vaccum of space is not empty, but actually full of anti-matter. An object with mass rips a hole in the anti-matter and as a result.. Im kinda drunk and can't be bothered to remember the rest

>>57486614
not him, but what the hell are you talking about?

>>57485779
Subaru guy hates volkswagen how original

>>57486614
not him, but plane works because of pressure change how technicalities of that pressure change happen fundamentally not important

>>57485826
He bought 10 dongles 79.99$ each. He probably don't have money for food now.

>>57486715
do you remember the rest, that is quite interesting.

>>57486715
I think you mean that an object with mass displaces the dark matter around it, like a baseball presses down on a sheet.

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>>57482643
My 1993 Buick Regal just died recently, 340k miles, general wear and tear is causing multiple piston misfires, too expensive of a repair.

Older American engineering is better than German engineering.

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>>57482359
reminded me of square watermelons

>>57482643
Wow, you found out cars are durable goods. Amazing!

>>57482161
that's a carbon fiber cylinder you tardlet

Little known fact that airplanes are impossible. People see mockups on television and the so called "airports" of the world keep a few models on the runway, but they never move. Have you ever actually seen one fly? I haven't.

>>57482161
Wings are designed to direct airflow in a way where the air is denser under the wings than above it. Causing the plane to be pushed up by lift.

It's really easy when you have massive jet engines and hundred foot wings.

>>57484638
>Difference in air pressure on the top and bottom of the wing
Yeah it's called the Bernoulli effect. But how does this apply when there is no air at the altitude in which planes fly? At 35000 ft, theres no air for the Bernoulli effect to work.

>>57487428
There's still enough air up there
Some planes operate much higher

>>57487219
how in the fuck

>>57487444
They grow them in wooden boxes

>>57487454
that makes sense

>>57487218
That seems like pretty reasonable mileage for an early 90s VW Golf though. It's just that the Golf wouldn't have coughed out less shit into the atmoshpere or drank nearly as much fuel while still carrying about 5 people.

>>57482387
>>57486444
Strong newfaggotry ITT.

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>>57487540
>vw wouldn't have polluted as much
>implying vw hasnt been cheating emission tests for years

>>57484638
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/wrong1.html

That's not why airplanes fly. People like you cause shitload of confusion.

ITT: /g/ tries to talk about things it knows nothing about. All if you need to shut the fuck up.

t. /sci/

>>57484666
Only planes design for that purpose can do it well

>>57486651
>*it is
A bird flying without it is wings?

>>>/lit/

>>57487444
>>57487454
Thought it was glass

it makes it fit in jap fridges better, wish we had em here

>>57486350
to create cubed eggs

>The gap between the head and the disk is about 40 atoms high. That’s how close the head comes to touching the disk surface. About 3 nanometers. That’s even smaller than a bacteria or a virus. >The read/write head is incredibly small too - width of less than a 100 nanometers and a thickness of about 10, and it flies above the platter at a speed of up to 15,000 RPM.

>To get things into perspective, Tom’s Hardware makes a comparison of the head with an aircraft. If the read/write head were a Boeing 747, and the hard-disk platter were the surface of the Earth:

>The head would fly at Mach 800
>At less than one centimeter from the ground
>And count every blade of grass
>Making fewer than 10 unrecoverable counting errors in an area equivalent to all of Ireland.

I think hard drives are an incredible engineering achievement.

>>57485777
Whats a "cargo cult"?

>>57485826
Thats clearly an office of some sort

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>>57482825

>>57491625
Isolated tribes of humans who's only knowledge of modern society comes from cargo planes flying over them. They worship the planes.

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>so if we put you in a static high strength magnetic field and then apply a series of interspaced RF energy and transient lower strength magnetic fields and then receive the signal with some locally placed coils we can image your hydrogens

you guys don't have shit on MRI

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>>57482155

>>57490570

They're also a fuckton more expensive than the cheap ass watermelons we have in the US.

>>57491971
that isn't technology though

>>57487387

You know, for under $100 you can ride one on most weekdays.

>>57491989
It's a neural network, expect running on carbon instead of on GPUs.

>>57484573
t. boeing shill

>>57484573
How low are we talking?

>>57492040
If it's not Boeing, I'm not going.

:^)

>>57492059
norwegian does ~150 USD JFK to berlin one-way

not bad

>>57484638
>Difference in air pressure on the top and bottom of the wing. Fluids moving quickly have a low pressure relative to slower moving fluids.
This is not the main source of lift. The main source of lift is simply air being directed downwards due to the angle of attack.

This is also why planes can fly upside down as >>57484666 asked. It's not as efficient as flying right-side up because the shape *does* make a difference, but you're still generating lift.

What you are confusing for the source of lift is just a secondary effect that makes the lift more efficient (by also shoving air downwards). But it is not the major contributor at all, and airplanes have existed and can fly with symmetric wings.

>Natural magnets such as iron have permanent electric current within them.
No. The source of natural magnetism is not a moving charge but rather a magnetic dipole moment in unpaired electrons, which in the case of ferrogmetic materials will spontaneously self-aligned into magnetism domains instead of cancelling itself out.

This post is a perfect example of the worst kind of retard: The one who actively believes himself to be knowledgeable while spouting out blatant misinformation.

>>57490951
No wonder shouting at a hard drive lowers its performance, it's doing all this hard work and you don't praise it?

>>57482161
Jet engine + Wings

>>57482588
>all those dongles and adapters
Cancer

>>57487387
Look up Mon roe on YouTube, they are actually sky demons

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>>57482155

>>57482155
8 track to mp3, it just werks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppo3IgHWDzA

>>57482861
for you

>>57491907
It's whose, lad.

>>57488493
stop feeding the troll

How did Solus get so good?

>>57482588
seriously how the fuck did apple think this was a good idea? HOW.

>>57487692
that's what I was taught in school

>>57492392
i wonder what's the maximum capacity memory stick this works with. there are adapters from ms to ms pro duo, and from pro duo to micro sd, so it would be pretty cool to be able to use a micro sd with a retro windows 9x machine

>>57492592
Your school was shit

>>57482643
Still use one in my 99 Lexus RX. Always found it funny that my 1990 GMC pickup (483k miles before eating a planetary gear BTW) had a CD player while a 99 Lexus didn't.

>>57482558
no your wrong its magic

>>57492624
better off with sd > cf > ide, replacing a hdd
much faster

>>57482825
>>57491736
No matter how stupid your fake product is, it always loses to password minder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcjViYTDk-A

>>57482643
My Yugo is 26m8
Father took his Mercedes to go to seaside, it broke like 150km from home, I came with Yugo and gave it to him so they can continue journey.

Those were around during the iPod era, so if your car only had a casette player and no iPod player, you could connect your iPod to it.

I also had something that would connect to an iPod and would wirelesslt broadcast your music on a nearby radio. (The idea being your car radio.) Unfortunately, my mom's car was new enough to not have a cassette player and not have any blank radio channels either, but old enough that it didn't have an iPod connector...

>>57490951
>>The gap between the head and the disk is about 40 atoms high. That’s how close the head comes to touching the disk surface. About 3 nanometers. That’s even smaller than a bacteria or a virus. >The read/write head is incredibly small too - width of less than a 100 nanometers and a thickness of about 10, and it flies above the platter at a speed of up to 15,000 RPM.
>
>>To get things into perspective, Tom’s Hardware makes a comparison of the head with an aircraft. If the read/write head were a Boeing 747, and the hard-disk platter were the surface of the Earth:
>
>>The head would fly at Mach 800
>>At less than one centimeter from the ground
>>And count every blade of grass
>>Making fewer than 10 unrecoverable counting errors in an area equivalent to all of Ireland.
Thats nice, but could you make it a food analogy instead?

>>57494596
Yes, I could.

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>>57494670

>>57482359
>"makes a square egg"

ITT? I keep seeing that...

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>>57485135
Yes.

>>57484453
Almost. There is no tape. It's just a tape head pressed against the tape head in the player. The audio signal from the headphone wire goes through the tape head in the "tape" making the same sort of magnetism you'd get from a tape moving over a head. That induces current in the player the same as a tape would.

The fake tape might also have some gears inside it to turn the other reel and a roller against where the player's pinch roller goes. Some players watch those to see if the tape is actually moving and not at the end or broken. The adapter just does it to make the player think it's playing a real tape.

>>57494596
To get things into perspective, if the read/write head were a chef piping chocolate mousse onto a 10 cm plate, he would have to pipe 350 plates a second, 1 micrometer from the plate, and miss less than 10 plates over an area equivalent to all of of Monaco.

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Someone somewhere on the planet enters a sequence of 10 or so numbers. A slab about the size of a pack of cards in your pocket then rings.

>>57494766
I used to use one of those adapters. The mechanism does turn both reels.

>>57493486
But that's actually useful for old people, and so long as they keep it at home only, its not a bad idea at all.

>>57482155
TRS literally wired directly to the playhead
It spins the two...whatevers, to humor the deck. It has all the interesting simple gearwork, but there's no tape.

It's feasible to record your music on a single loop of tape, but you'd ruin the tape after while, and have a fuckton of noise along the way.

>>57487218
Brother. I have the same car same year.
Mine is at 70,000 picked it up from a grandma.

>>57494740
I think he meant the magnetic force as whole the physics/chemistry behind it. As general concept not yet...
>tfw when ICP is on to something..

>>57494726
In This Thread

>>57494841
Smartphones an etc. really do amaze me. All the ridiculous shit we can do with them. Sometimes when I''m using my pc and smartphone in tandem or transfer files wirelessly or whatever I have to take a second and think "damn this is insane"

>>57490951
>it's doing all this hard work and you don't praise it?
>I think hard drives are an incredible engineering achievement.
Then SSD's came along and made a Blacked.com video of the hard drives wife

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15 magic technologies that can't be explained YOU will kill yourself after seeing #6

>>57484638
It always bothers me when people give a basic explanation of planes and dismiss how fucking crazy they are. Like holy shit how the fuck did we manage to make these things. It's nuts.

People need to appreciate the shit we've accomplished more often.

>>57495341
Bullshit. There is so many things that are just way more impressive than planes, why is it always planes that people get so uppity about? Fucking nanotech and computer processing, basically magic

>>57494740
literally kek'd

>>57492138
damn. rarely find a good beat down on /g/ anymore.

>>57495395
Mostly because it's not worth wasting 5 minutes on a good shakedown since cunts just roll the 'hur dur I was just pretending to be retarded' and roll a few reaction images.

>>57486350
you dumb motherfucker, it even says it in the red border.

it makes a square egg.

>>57491986
They're not for eating, they taste terrible since they don't grow normal at all.

>>57495367
>Basically magic
No, we're just behind the 'basic understanding' curve.
101% of the earths population don't understand electricity yet.

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>>57495429
Obviously not literally magic. Just a billion times greater in complexity and technological achievement than getting something to fly in the air

>>57495064
nigga it's a fucking notebook being sold for 10 burger dollars

>>57495468
Without a doubt.
One day I'd like to get my head around pressure differentials, convection currents and air density.

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>>57495341
Try to explain this.

>>57492138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqBmdZ-BNig

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ALRIGHT FAGGOTS LISTEN UP

SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THE COPPER COIL OF HEADPHONES PRODUCES SOUND LOUD ENOUGH AND RANGED ENOUGH TO BE HEARD WITH INSANE ACCURACY

HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT SHIT WORK

HOW DOES A COIL PRODUCE FUCKING SOUND

Alternatively explain this

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>>57482660
>>57487547
>>57486444
>pointing out the newfag
Here's a meme
I'm not even sorry that I'm late

>>57495587
>SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW THE COPPER COIL OF HEADPHONES PRODUCES SOUND
Because it moves a membrane, the coild by itself does only produce mangetism (aka. magic)

Take a piece of paper and hold it in your hands, pull it straight, loosen a bit, pull it straight... see, you made some noise with a piece of paper. A similar thing in headphones, but smaller and electricity driven

>>57487218
:((( anon get a second opinion. Get the ignition control module tested

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>this fucking thread

>>57492392
It needs watch batteries and a special driver, nothing magic about t

>>57492081
what the fucking shit?
Ive never seen an international flight for less than 1000 USD.
hell, ive never seen a domestic flight for less than 300.

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>>57482643
Dumb car only has a radio.
Feels bad man

I guess that's what I get for having a car that's 50 years old

>>57496314
>Ive never seen an international flight for less than 1000 USD.
bahahahaa

>tfw I flew from the uk to malaysia for less than 1000USD

you guys are retarded.

>>57487428
>No air
>35,000 ft.

Son, do you understand how atmosphere works?
The air is thinner, yes, this is why you have to keep the cabin pressurized, but I assure you there is plenty of air.

>>57496404
>flying economy

>>57487428
You may be retarded

>>57482253
>threading your own post :^)

>>57495419
why would you put a square watermelon in the fridge if you weren't going to eat it

>>57482795
It's a netbook.

>>57496422
This is probably the most easily explained thing in the thread.

>>57485837
>lean right
>bike steers right automatically
>wheels steer under the point of inertia
>bike leans left
etc

>>57490951
bullshit, there's no way a HDD has moving parts that are kept at a consistent distance of 40 atoms. If I can hear the vibrations from the thing spinning up, then every part of that machine is vibrating distances orders of magnitude above '40 atoms' width'

>>57496523
Explain it then

>>57487692
From your link:

{The upper flow is faster and from Bernoulli's equation the pressure is lower. The difference in pressure across the airfoil produces the lift.} As we have seen in Experiment #1, this part of the theory is correct.

What did that guy say that contradicted this?

>>57496440
>Japan

>>57495341
For making planes we basically just watched birds.

It is that simple.

We have accomplished much more stuff that is truely amazing.

I am writing this from across the globe and you see it seconds later, that's one of those amazing things.

>>57492029
>carbon
It has some carbon in it, but it's mostly water.

>>57485778
Yeah, must be god and shit.

Are you catholic?

>>57487218
>Older American engineering is better than German engineering.
Now I'm laughing. Thank you.

>>57487670
>Those emission tests do not even exist that long you dork.

>>57496314
I went to cancun and back from germany for 700 bucks on condor.

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>>57482155
>tapes hold no data
>yet they play sounds when placed on the appropriate machine

????????

>>57495306
>Sometimes when I''m using my pc and smartphone in tandem or transfer files wirelessly or whatever I have to take a second and think "damn this is insane"
I just transferred some music files over the cloud to my phone yesterday because it was faster than searching for an app or the cable. That's insane.

>>57496773
And now some guy in a warehouse knows your weird sexual fetishes, the last magazine you bought and how you feel about PDF files.

>>57495587
>pic
That works because the vision processing part of your brain does some insane error correction.

What I don't get is how READING works. There's these tiny squiggles of contrasting colors, and when looking at them, I perceive squiggle groups as abstract concepts. And people COMMUNICATE with them. What the fuck?

>>57496763

"Analog data is data that is represented in a physical way. Where digital data is a set of individual symbols, analog data is stored in physical media, whether that's the surface grooves on a vinyl record, the magnetic tape of a VCR cassette, or other non-digital media. "

>>57496763
they do hold data though

>>57486444
>I'm not retarded I'm just pretending.
Geesus.

>>57496806
>>57496807
Thanks! (not sarcasm)

>>57496805
damn, I really get this feel when I look at some text that uses a different alphabet. All that knowledge locked away from me in some exotic squiggly lines

>>57496623
Additional power goes through cable to power the device. What's magic about that?

>>57496796
No, he just knows what music I listen to. Get your paranoia checked.

>>57496806
you can store digital data in physial media without trouble, and this is what hard disks do.
rather, digital data has discrete states. Analog has practically infinite states.
in digital you could have 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5,3.0, in analog you'd have somewhere between 1.0 and 3.0

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>>57496422

>>57482161
That is fucking beautiful

>>57482161
They have so much power that it negates the weight itself. You could literally strap jet engines to a cargo ship and it would fly.

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>>57496645
The thing that keeps the airplane up is that the wings physically move air more downwards(Newtons action-reaction) with what's called a downwash. This downwash is caused by the pressure differential like he said. That same pressure differential also pulls(negative pressure on top)/pushes(positive pressure on the bottom) the airplane up but that part is insignificant to the total lift.

>>57496404
Guy you replied to here, I just checked and flights from the closest major airport to nz are about $2000.
cancune was about 400
dublin about 800
london about 1000

>>57496903
>>57496422
Fucking EuroPEONs

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>>57496972

>>57496806
harddrives store data like that too

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>>57496931
>pressure differential
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/wrong1.html
http://www.amasci.com/wing/airfoil.html

vinyl records

i dont get how grooves and bumps in a piece of plastic can do that

>>57497083
are you retarded? the groove in a vinyl is literally the waveform of the sound, the needle vibrates according to the path of the groove and all you need to do is amplify that sound, that's right vinyl needles make actual sound that you can hear

>>57497064
You idiot that page describes the wrong theory where the upper part has the same travel time as the lower one but meet up at the end. Which is wrong. The reason is that if it was true, there would be no downwash. The upper part needs to clear the wing faster then the lower part for this to happen.

>>57497136
there are two links, one with wrong theory other with full theory

>>57497136
read the rest of the articleeee

>>57495587
eletrical signal comes from computer and goes through coil.
more current = more magnetism, so a changing signal causes a changing magnetic field.
The headphone membran also has a small magnet attached to it, which will either be attracted to the magnetic field generated by the coil, or repulsed by it.
That means a changing electrical signal causes a changing movement of the membrane. Now if you make it change like 10,000 times a second, the membrane will move back and forth at 10,000Hz. This causes the air molecules in front of the membrane to be moved at the same speed, which in turn move neighboring molecules, creating a wave effect that travels into your ear, where the vibrations get picked up by the thingies in your ear that turn it into brain signals.

How can you bruteforce a 128 bit Hex value

>>57497232
just try all the combinations of 0's and 1's.
If you want a system, just count up in binary or something until it works.

>>57497201
>>57497193
Now tell me where I was wrong. Because the article is describing what I did.

>>57482161
How the fuck do you take those pictures

>>57497269
with a second plane

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>>57486405
We have a clue now. JUST NOW. IN THE CURRENT YEAR THE DISCOVERY HAS BEEN MADE.

Spoiler: tesla was right.

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You know this is king of analog technology magic

>>57497263
>The symmetric airfoil in our experiment generates plenty of lift and its upper surface is the same length as the lower surface.
[...]There are modern, low-drag airfoils which produce lift on which the bottom surface is actually longer than the top. This theory also does not explain how airplanes can fly upside-down which happens often at air shows and in air-to-air combat. The longer surface is then on the bottom!

>>57496930
>You could literally strap jet engines to a cargo ship and it would fly.
>ywn in a Final Fantasy-esque world with flying ships everywhere
god

>>57492138
Fact: moving electric current and only electric current creates magnetism
Ergo: where there is magnetism there is current

how can a natural magnet be any kind of static phenomena if the above is true? checkmate

>>57497320
Angle of attack. I thought that was obvious.

>>57494766
THANKS

who is god?

>>57493513
>I also had something that would connect to an iPod and would wirelesslt broadcast your music on a nearby radio. (The idea being your car radio.)
That's an FM transmitter. I have one that works with old ipods and the 4/4s, I bought it for something like $5 on Amazon three years ago and it still works fine.

>>57497380
imaginary being that many people agree on being the explanation for everything they can't explain themselves.

>>57497414
Prove that God is imaginary.

>>57497430
nah I'm not taking any more bait.

>>57497380
It's the source of consciousness. Before humans could think consciously they had a voice telling them what to do.

>>57497449
wasn't this theory debunked?
that inner voice was mistaken for god etc. etc.

>>57497414
>Its imaginary so it can't be real

>>57497019
We also have three prongers xDDDDDDDDD

>>57496846
That's for powerline networking you dumb.

>>57482155
>tfw no cd version

>>57496623
You can extract different frequencies from a signal, so with powerline is a composite of 50-60Hz + xHz where x is whatever the manufacturer is using.

>>57497350
Electron dipole moment has about as much to do with a moving charge as a electron “spin” has to do with the electron actually rotating.

They're simply visual metaphors, but the underlying principle is that the electron some vectors intrinsically associated with it. In fact, the reason it's even called a “spin” is simply because of the association with the magnetic dipole, whicn in classic electrodynamics is generated by a rotating charge, so we visualize electrons as “rotating”.

But it's important to realize that this is just a mental image, and that electrons are no more actually “rotating” than atoms consist of little spheres flying around other little spheres.

>>57497762
Do elementary particles actually move at all instead of "teleporting"?

>>57486108
>>57484638
You're both retarded

>>57496100
Urusai urusai urusai and go get ntrd by your senpai's sister

>>57497817
Define ‘move’ and define ‘teleporting’

These questions are hard to answer in any satisfying way because of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle and the fact that elementary particles exist in a probability spectrum instead of any given point.

So really, the concept of “teleport” doesn't really make sense - it's more like the electron exists in multiple places at once. Similarly, the concept of move breaks down once you try to measure it, because you can either know the position of the electron or the velocity of the electron, never both. (Knowing more about one increases the uncertainty of the other)

>>57498118
For example: If I throw a ball do the atoms in it move continuously or does the probability distribution move it?

>>57496589
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_height

>In 2011, the flying height in modern drives was a few nanometers.[2] Thus, the head can collide with even an obstruction as thin as a fingerprint or a particle of smoke.

>hurrdurr it just be wrong becuz I fink so

kys yourself to peaces

>>57498148
It moves continuously by any reasonable definition of “continuous movement”

>>57497639
Are you retarded or too dumb to read?

>>57497639
Nope, PoE injector.

>>57498211
If you would zoom in as much as possible where particles pop in and out of existence in a probability distribution, does this distribution change to facilitate moving of the larger object?

It's ok to admit you don't know man.

>>57497762
you stupid relativist heck out

>>57485135
>>57486604
>>57494740
>>57495258
It's a "fundamental" force that work's "bust because", much like gravity. So yeah, basically magic. ICP isn't as anti intellectual as you think.

>>57487218
corvette pics pls

>>57482359
HAHAHA, what the fuck

>EggCuber
>Makes an egg square
hahahahhahahaha

>>57497762
So what shape are atoms then if they're not spherical? Do we even know?

>>57493486
there's actually nothing wrong with this. great product. i would recommend it to old people. it's not even over priced either. honestly, i wouldn't mind having one to keep in a safe or something

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>>57498309
we know, and they are spherical, don't listen to his quantum woo bullshit

>>57498250
>If you would zoom in as much as possible where particles pop in and out of existence in a probability distribution
You have a wrong mental image of probability distributions. Particles like electrons don't pop in and out of existence, they fundamentally exist in multiple places at the same time.

This is how, for example, photons can exhibit wave-like behavior in the dual slit experiments. The photon is not a single ball that pops in and out of existence around the opening, but it's a superposition of many states that simultaneously evolves through time.

>>57498157
he provided an incontrovertible argument that you have not refuted, audible vibrations have wavelengths much much greater than that distance, if it produces an audible sound it cannot be that distance

>>57498349
My point still stands even without "popping in and out of existence"

>>57498349
all photon behaviour can be modelled exactly with physical balls, there is none of your woo in the real world

>>57498309
>>57498337
It's not some quantum “woo” bullshit, it's actual, well-understood quantum mechanics. Have you ever studied physics? Either way, you're free to wallow in your ignorance if you want, but please don't regurgitate your outdated classical atom models from 100 years ago to others.

Atoms' outer interactions and overall shape are dominated by the electron shells within which electrons are bound. The shape of these actually sort of depends on the shell, and it's also hard to pick any sort of real “size” for an atom because all of their shells are just probability distributions. It's more like a cloud than a shell, really. In principle, any electron within an electron shell could end up at any arbitrary distance away from the atom in practice, but the probability of it doing so becomes exceedingly low.

See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_radius for more information on this topic, and for some practical approaches to answering the question of “what is the shape/radius/size of an atom?”

As for the shape of particles themselves (e.g. electrons and protons) they are perfectly round as far as we can tell (and we've looked really, really hard at electrons).

>>57497760
It's not a powerline network adapter dipshit. It's POE, Power Over Ethernet.

100Base ethernet and lower doesn't even use all 8 wires, it only uses 4 of them. 2 for transmit and 2 for receive.

With POE you just pick some unused wires on the cable and slap some voltage on them. Then you use that voltage to power the device at the other end. So you don't have to run two cables to the device(one for power and one for networking). Comes in handy when you don't have a power source at the device, or just want to manage shit centrally.

>>57498378
>There is none of your woo in the real world
Holy fucking shit, pick up a book on quantum mechanics and read up on the wave-particle duality some day. This is some flat-earth tier reality denying going on here.

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But how do these work?

>>57498422
My 1Gbps PoE sure uses unused wires.

Learn some electronics.

>>57498426
>>57498405
I picked up a book and it was demonstrably wrong. Quite easily so in fact. Think for yourself stupid wooists.

>>57498365

http://talkelab.ucsd.edu/index.php/hdd-intro

>In present-day hard drives the flying height is between 5 and 20 nanometers (nm) and lower with thermal flying height control.

>>57498428
They boil water with one of the most dangerous force known to man.
Then it's steam->turbine-> electricity.
Fucking nuts

>>57498426
It's almost like he said the exact wrong thing, huh?
Physics was done in 1900, all they had to do is dot the 'i's and cross the 't's.

>>57496440
They don't , they usually set them out as a decorative piece, lasts about a year.

>>57482825
>NOTE: this product is intended as a novelty. All disc and MP3 media are direct access and do not truly require "reqinding." However, it is very fun to hear the sounds, and watch the lights of this product.

>>57498445
>>57498457
What kicks do you get out of trolling on /g/? Is it fun misinforming people? Do you get a nice sense of superiority if somebody believes your horseshit?

Seriously, I don't get it. Anyway, I hope your got your laughs, this is my last reply to your at this point obvious bait

>>57498503
Also the world is flat, columbus was black, and the pyramids were built by slaves.

>>57498365
the argument is rather sketchy, there is a lot of shit you could do to avoid issues due to vibrations and i'm sure plenty of those are done.

>>57486715
>>57487171
>>57487215
Empty space has dark energy everywhere. There are also quantum fluctuations causing virtual particles (particle-antiparticle pairs) to spawn from nothing and annihilate instantly. Dark matter is affected by gravity and thus clumped with other matter in the universe, around galaxies.

>>57498595
This is a hypothesis, not a theory.

>>57495442
3 numbers
avg. from 15, 5 mins and 1 min
if it goes over the number of cores u dun goof

>>57498454
>tfw this powerful and revolutionary power source is just a bigger and stronger steam engine
Never ceases to amaze me.

>>57498736
Newcomen must be rolling in his grave.

>>57498736

it uses a steam turbine generator but that doesn't make it a steam engine. The thing that makes it a nuclear power plant is the nuclear part that generates the steam. When it gets the the turbine, the power is basically already generated

>>57487218
>not going to a scrapyard to find spare parts or just dropping an LS in it

faggot

>>57498803
yeah, well, steam in steam engine is also heated by coal
but nobody fucking calls it coal engine

>>57498803
I mean it's obviously a gross oversimplification, but it works by heating a fluid which then moves upwards and does some work for you.

>>57498803
>>57498836
>>57498838
I'd say that a “steam engine” is the componenet that converts heat energy into mechanical energy. The “nuclear reactor” is the component that converts nuclear potential energy into heat energy. Findally, the “electric generator” is the component that converts mechanical energy into electrical energy.

A nuclear power plant is a combination of a nuclear reactor, a steam engine and an electric generator.

>>57498503
What kicks do you get out of promoting baseless """"theories"""" and telling people to use magical thinking to blindly accept them in spite of simple logic?

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>>57487670
>Using Billy Corgan as a reaction image

The fuck do you think this is?

>>57486350
It makes a square egg

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>>57496903
Seriously, these don't really work all that great.

>>57498859
Yeah and that's what is so great about it, they use a fucking steam engine in modern power plants all over the world.

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>>57486350
>purpose

We're far beyond that now, anon. There is no purpose to wanting a square egg.

Here's a watermelon buggie. For what? I Don't know. Who cares? Buy it.

>>57498859
>>57498913
so basically heat exchange engine
same as combustion

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>>57498921
I'm never going to find a good time to post this, so I'm just going to do it here

>>57498365
I'm pretty sure my earbuds produce bass frequencies whose wavelength is many times larger than the earbuds themselves.

Also, the fact that some parts of the drive vibrate doesn't mean that the head does too.

>>57498606
what's the difference?

>>57498933
>nothing is combusted
>combustion engine

>>57498606
>Casimir force is a hypothesis.
Fuck up.

Casimir force has been a pain in 50 asses for CPU design for the past 2 decades.
Along with quantum tunneling leading to leakage.

>>57499001
did some googling and:
>It is important to note that the definition of a "scientific theory" (often ambiguously contracted to "theory" for the sake of brevity, including in this page) as used in the disciplines of science is significantly different from, and in contrast to, the common vernacular usage of the word "theory". As used in everyday non-scientific speech, "theory" implies that something is an unsubstantiated and speculative guess, conjecture, idea, or, hypothesis
fuggg

>>57499027
I meant the dark energy thing. It's completely unproven because it's just something to bias the math so it's correct. Without "dark matter" Einsteins relativity isn't correct but we have absolutely no proof that it exists. We're just inserting mass so the math checks out and call the amount dark matter.

>>57498935
This isn't just pointless. It's downright harmful (unless for some reason regular breastfeeding isn't possible but this is), because of all the consequences that come from the degraded bond between mother and child.

>>57499070
Oh, yeah, that is for sure.

Dark Matter and Dark Energy are basically blanket terms for "we haven't a fucking clue what this is".
There are so many competing theories for it.

2 major branches are incompatible, and one of them, the Super Symmetry one, seems to be ruled out given recent experiments in CERN.
RIP SUSY fags.

A recent new theory in relation to String Theory is that the dark matter is "rolled-up" in "hidden sectors", similar to the extra dimensions of String Theory that hold reality together.
Wonder where that one will go.


There is also a theory in relation to Casimir that it is the reason for the Dark Energy acceleration of the universe.
If we could ever figure out how to harness that energy, which a few teams are working on, it would be a power revolution that would piss off so many faggots clinging to words instead of maths. (wahh, muh conservation of energies! I can say words! )

It would be the negative energy density needed to create stable wormholes, if we can ever figure out they are even possible.
All we need are 3 blackholes and a lotta energy to make 2 of those blackholes orbit so close the 2 singularities fall out between the actual event horizons. (naked singularity)
That could create a torus that could be stretched open with negative density, the other turned in to a white hole, boom, we wormholes now son.
>you were born too early to even see thee experiments pass or fail.
>you were born just in time to be nuked in World War 3.

>>57496805
I desperately want to know the origins of all written and spoken languages, as well as their translations. It's one thing to be able to communicate with someone else without a pre-established system and then later finding another group of people that made their own language and interacting with them, how the fuck. Languages of the same name doth change over time too, are they languages unto themselves? And there's speech recognition and automated translations, I can't be doin with this.

>>57498933
Sure. My point is just that saying “a nuclear power plant is just a big steam engine” is fundamentally wrong, because while a nuclear power plant *uses* a steam engine for part of its process, it sure as hell consists of more than just that. (like the whole nuclear reactor thingy)

>>57499165
>There is also a theory in relation to Casimir that it is the reason for the Dark Energy acceleration of the universe.
>If we could ever figure out how to harness that energy, which a few teams are working on, it would be a power revolution that would piss off so many faggots clinging to words instead of maths.
Technically you're harnessing the energy from spacetime itself which is expanding(so it has energy)

The issue is whether that energy is infinite or finite. Would we slow the expansion down by harvesting it?

>>57498905
You can get a few hundred Mbit/s which is more than enough for a home user

>>57497514
They are still not as well supported and still bend lmaoo

>>57499033
>>57499001
Not that anon but a hypothesis is basically an informed guess or proposition that has testable consequences, and a theory is a hypothesis that has survived the trial of testing for a significant amount of time.

There's no clear-cut distinction between a hypothesis and a theory other than that a hypothesis still needs to be “tested”, or is a more immature version of a theory in general - whereas a theory is something that *seems* to be correct.

That said, in empirical sciences, nothing is definite and absolutely nothing can be “proven right”, at best we can have theories that seems to work until somebody finds a flaw with them 300 years later. Like newton's theory of gravity, which was considered correct for many decades, but then einstein's general theory of relativity predicted results which would have contradicted newton's theory - and sure enough, tests revealed results that were consistent with einstein's theory and not newton's theory. And therefore we scrapped newton's theory of gravity in favor of einstein's theory of gravity.

But einstein's theory of gravity is also running into limitations as of modern quantum physics, which is why we're trying so hard to replace it by grand unified theories that combine quantum mechanics and gravity into a single consistent theory of quantum gravity.

String theory etc. are all just attempts to fix these shortcomings with einstein's models

>>57496805
>>57499188
It's all just pattern recognition. I believe that our brains are deep down just pattern recognition machines.

All your thoughts, all your emotions, they are just patterns that your brain has been trained to recognize. You are associating multiple stimuli together and finding the patterns in them.

When you look at this sentence, you're seeing patterns within patterns. The letters are patterns, the words are patterns, the sentence structure is a pattern, their associated meaning, the thoughts you derive from them, etc. etc. etc.

It's all just a big system of recognizing patterns and responding to them. This how artificial neural networks learn to play go. They learn to recognize patterns just like we humans do when playing go.

>>57499218
Slow it down.

Similarly to how if you were to use gravity engines, it would just steal energy from the host and slow its rotation and orbit.
But given the energies you can harvest from them, it would still take a fucking long ass time to be significant.
If every human had a gravity engine to power their homes, it'd maybe cause Earth to fall in to the sun several trillion years after it already exploded.

With dark energy, it would be even less since it seems to be the dominating force in the universe.
It is already expanding the universe so rapidly that is is, relatively speaking, _faster_ than light. And accelerating!
This is why things get red-shifted, the light is being stretched out.
The whole universe is expanding so quickly away from itself that eventually we will never see stars in the sky. (if we even live that long as a species)
We don't even know if life could be possible at that time because the repulsive force will eventually fuck with cohesion of molecules. When that is isn't known yet.
After a while, it will be so violently repulsive every atom will rip apart.
RIP universe.

You'd not even feel it. Everything would just instantly end as every molecule in your body violently explodes away in every direction.

>>57499312
This is also how you learned language as a kid. When you were young, you learned to recognize the patterns in your parents' speech and how it relates to the other patterns you see (like the ones coming from your retina or your ears)

Even as an adult, If I point a tree and repeat a phrase in a foreign language, you will learn to associate the phrase with the concept of a tree. This actually reminds me of my introductory swedish course - the teacher started by just talking basic swedish like saying “I am <name>” while pointing to herself, then pointing at me and asking me “what is your name?”. This is how we fundamentally learn language.

We just learn to recognize patterns, and our interactions coagulate on common ways to refer to these patterns. This is how new words like “meme” are born too. We all have an understanding of what a “meme” because we have all seen memes and seen the phrase “meme” in conjunction with one another often enough to recognize the concept.

But all you're doing is recognizing the patterns. You see a meme, you identify it by similary with other memes. You then call this a “meme”.

>>57499258
>Not that anon but a hypothesis is basically an informed guess or proposition that has testable consequences, and a theory is a hypothesis that has survived the trial of testing for a significant amount of time.

http://www.amasci.com/miscon/myths10.html
http://amasci.com/miscon/miscon4.html#mis

just shut up

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>>57499312
>>57499360
that's a lot of fancy drivel monsieur

>>57499370
>As a solution to the hypothesis problem, Sonleitner (1989) suggested that tentative or trial laws be called generalizing hypotheses with provisional theories referred to as explanatory hypotheses. Another approach would be to abandon the word hypothesis altogether in favor of terms such as speculative law or speculative theory. With evidence, generalizing hypotheses may become laws and speculative theories become theories, but under no circumstances do theories become laws
This seems to be agreing with what I'm saying? Maybe you should read your own sources fully before trying to use them as counter-arguments.

>>57499395
you said a hypothesis becomes a theory, which is not true

>>57499331
neither dark energy nor expansions exist, additionally conservation of energy is not a universal law but a law that applies to known closed systems such as the conditions you might establish in a laboratory or an engineering project

>>57499453
>expansion doesn't exist

Expand this
*whips out dick*

>>57482155
I know it IS explained, but radio waves fucking blow my mind
>a moving electric field can create a magnetic field
>a moving magnetic field can create an electric field
>if you do it right you can chain these into a self-repeating wave
who the FUCK thought of this shit? goddamn.
The universe just boggles the mind, what are the chances of a universe with fundamental laws like we have? I know we can only really exist in such a universe so the question is kinda pointless, but fuck me if it isn't completely amazing that this shit is possible.
EM truly is magic.

>>57499422
[citation needed]

I'm not sure how you derived that conclusion from the article, but maybe you were basing it on this section:

>Myth 1: Hypotheses Become Theories Which Become Laws
But that one seems to be primarily concerned with the “theories become laws” bit, not the “hypotheses become theories” bit. In particular, for example:
>The problem created by the false hierarchical nature inherent in this myth is that theories and laws are very different kinds of knowledge. Of course there is a relationship between laws and theories, but one simply does not become the other--no matter how much empirical evidence is amassed.
It doesn't even mention hypothesis

This doesn't seem to contradict the idea that a hypothesis becomes a theory, which is in fact supported by other parts of the article (such as the stuff i quoted earlier)

Or, for example, stuff like
>The term hypothesis has at least three definitions, and for that reason, should be abandoned, or at least used with caution. For instance, when Newton said that he framed no hypothesis as to the cause of gravity he was saying that he had no speculation about an explanation of why the law of gravity operates as it does. In this case, Newton used the term hypothesis to represent an immature theory.
Clearly indicates that “immature theory” is at least one accepted definition of “hypothesis”

The rest seems unrelated. Also, we can look at more sources as well, e.g.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
>A hypothesis is a conjecture, based on knowledge obtained while formulating the question. The hypothesis might be very specific or it might be broad. Scientists then test hypotheses by conducting experiments. [...] If a particular hypothesis becomes very well supported a general theory may be developed.[1]

>>57499453
You could well be right.

Einsteins equations are knowingly fucked up because he used Lorentz equations in an improper context. (a universe without aether, which we know is false, virtual particles are a proven, very real and very annoying fact)

But we still use them since it is the only ones we have that make sense for our needs.

We won't really know this until we get the fuck out of our solar systems gravity well to test.

>>57499530
One thing I have never understood is what the fuck happens to the energy when waves "cancel out"?
I've never heard that explained properly that doesn't rely on "it just does".

I've heard that doing such a thing basically creates a mirror in free space.
But I've never seen them actually point to a proof of such a thing. Only using "examples" such as bird feathers or silver. You know, solid matter.
FUCK.

>>57499530
>The universe just boggles the mind, what are the chances of a universe with fundamental laws like we have? I know we can only really exist in such a universe so the question is kinda pointless, but fuck me if it isn't completely amazing that this shit is possible.
To me, the thing that this really, fundamentally implies is that our universe isn't the “only” one. The sheer improbability of it having arisen by chance to support life, to me, means that there are billions and billions of other universes which have no life.

Sort of like the sheer improbability of earth having developed life is reflected in the billions upon billions of lifeless planets we see in our own universe.

>>57499530
God

>>57499683
universe = everything that there is

>>57499258
How are laws defined?

>>57499778
What I meant is our observable universe, i.e. the thing we're analyzing and calling “universe”

>>57499188
funny thing is most of the languages are identical in their essential semantics-logic, meaning, origin
because guess what - all human concepts are the same no matter where on this planet they are

there are some slight emotional connotation differences to the same words in different languages, it as tested on bi-lingual respondents a few years back
but I think it's way too inconsistent to actually prove concretely

>>57499809
Good examples of laws are things like “F=m·a” or “U=R·I”. Good examples of theories are things like “mass warps the spacetime around it”.

Laws don't try to explain behavior, they simply describe its relationships. A theory tries to describe the origin or nature of a behavior, a law simply “documents” the relationship. If that makes sense.

Honestly, all of these definitions are incredibly muddy and in practice molded by how people decide to use them, like every other definition.

>>57499653
We know because there is no evidence to consider it, and several contradictory observations to consider. It's very simple.

Expansion is conveniently hypthesised to only occur between galaxies. Call me when you have a """"gravity"""" probe at 100000+ ly out

>>57499683
We can see 7 other planets and some dozens planetoids. Exoplanets are a huge meme and even then only a few thousand have been """""""""detected""""""""".

There could be life bearing planets at proxima centauri for all we know. The solar system could be the only star in the universe with planets at all. This is the reality of how little is known.

>>57499683
i'm pretty sure life is not that uncommon. We just can't check for sure, but simply relying on math if it could survive 5 extinctions over millions and millions of years here it can appear/disappear anywhere fit for any kind of possible life.

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>>57500004
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_2233.html

is NASA lying to me?

>>57500072
No they're just giving you the dumbed down version. Normies only want """facts""" they don't want confusing theories. Read about how exoplanets are inferred, and realize it's an inference. And that the number of stars is also an inference, and that the number of planets is inferred based on the inferences of planets and stars put together. And then recall that conclusions based on false assumptions must also be false.

>>57499974
Oh, I am not saying you are wrong.
I question the gravity locking contradiction myself.

I still blame the fact we were stuck with Einsteinian Relativity and not Lorentzian Relativity.
Einstein just beat him to a simpler punch.
We literally got stuck with a Pajeet-tier cut-and-paste job where Einstein took something against his own Relativity and used it to explain something it shouldn't. Great job you walking static fuck-up.

And, as you know, scientists, hell, anyone, are paradoxically lazy as fuck and cling on to anything that makes their lives simpler, even if it is wrong, inaccurate or otherwise.
>Shall we be obliged to modify our conclusions? Certainly not; we had adopted a convention because it seemed convenient and we had said that nothing could constrain us to abandon it. Today some physicists want to adopt a new convention. It is not that they are constrained to do so; they consider this new convention more convenient; that is all. And those who are not of this opinion can legitimately retain the old one in order not to disturb their old habits, I believe, just between us, that this is what they shall do for a long time to come
>- Poincaré
He was so right.

>>57499974
>Expansion is conveniently hypthesised to only occur between galaxies.
What do you mean by “expansion” in this context? The expansion of the universe? If so, isn't that pretty well-established based on the cosmic microwave background, red-shift of distant galaxies, the presence of heavier elements, and so on?

>>57500238
Yeah, but it doesn't happen in gravitionally locked groups.

Beyond the local cluster, we can see the effects of some expansion.
But inside of it, we can't.

We have no explanation for it as of yet.
We know the reasons for the redshifting, but we don't know why it is happening outside the LC.

>>57500274
Well, yes. We know that the universe is expanding, we just don't know *why* it's expanding

>>57499885
>there are some slight emotional connotation differences to the same words in different languages
that often does not even exist. words carry subtle connotations that are hard to represent in other languages, try translating any eloquent text.

>>57500307
That's not really the problem.
The problem is there is massive contradictions to equal expansion of space.

I assume that is how we will eventually figure out the whole problem of dark energy and matter.

>>57500307
>Beyond the local cluster, we can see the effects of some expansion.
>But inside of it, we can't.
[but we should be able to see some] [And yet we don't, which doesn't really make sense]
that's how i understood him anyway

>>57500385
But that doesn't make sense. We don't see the effects of expansion inside our galaxy because the effects of gravity are much stronger than the expansion over this short distance scale, right?

>>57498921
how else are you going to keep your watermelon chilled at the beach?

>>57492555
Idk Solus is just the best

>>57492555
checked

>>57500413
You are correct, he is wrong. All space is expanding evenly. Of course space between galaxies is way more vast than within galaxies. It is not noticing on the galaxy scale.

>>57499868
in that case im 100% with you, i just get really mad about the word being missused while at the same time no new word to talk about "the everything" being popular

>>57500413
maybe they are getting away from us?