/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>tfw replaced my X220'S cracked TN display with a fresh IPS display

feelsgoodman

>tfw new display cost over half the price of the laptop

feelsbadman

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> tfw I have to decide between 1080p display and comfy 7 row keyboard.

>>57477609
>tfw ready to instabuy an IPS 1080p screen + adapter for my T420 at any time
>no one sells a working kit
feelsbadman

All my hopes are with rmsmajestic releasing a working t420 kit.

>>57477592
Anyone run MacOS on their thinkpad?

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>>57477667
>tfw I bought the W520 so I don't know this feel

>>57477592
How might one keep a solar or physical charge for a laptop during a 3-4 back (mid) country trek? I plan to defend my PhD thesis and do a northbound traversal of the Appalachian Trail. I'd need to respond to comments/revisions during the various town stops or any campground in cell phone range. If tethered to my phone, Latex revisions and SSH to simulation servers are trivial. I currently run a 2012 Macbook Air but I'd be willing to buy a T420 despite the weight for durability. The real question is how to charge it while hiking 12 hours a day.

>>57478178
...phone/hotspot would be LG G3 with standard charging port

>>57477592
>posting the ugly version of the IBM thinkpad logo

you had one job OP

>>57478178
Durability isn't the problem, but multiple batteries would be an advantage as you could charge them at stops with power then toss them in ziplock bags.

Solar innawoods ain't happening, especially on the move.

I'd bring a small Thinkpad like an x200 with a low wattage CPU and an SSD to conserve power, and three or four new spare batteries.

Alternate option, an Android tablet with a Latex editor app and a power bank or three.

is $335 a good price for a BRAND NEW t420?

>>57478772
eoooo

>>57478178
>3-4 MONTH back (mid) country trek?

>>57478814
They do make USB tier chargers that use walking or ambient solar en energy. Not sure about mechanical charging but if I'm pulling ultrabook/tablet energy it should be doable if esoteric and expensive an orthodox user. They don't need that many Amps or Watt/Hours and it's all DC to the port.

Multiple batteries mean slower hiking so the something 12inch and X series might even be better since it's small but supports a full character set for command line syntax.

Most common products seem to assume you are in a car based on multiplicity of "bricks", weight or cables since manufactures are assuming AC from the socket or using a DC source to feed a device's default AC cord.

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Is this a good Craigslist deal for $170?

>>57479028
y-yeea...

>>57479028
Yiss

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>>57477698
jijavie or jajiave is the one who made the kit I think, RMS is the one who exported it.

Once you go IPS its hard to go back...
Awaiting the T431s so I can do a comparison of the two HD+ panels that are compatible with the 900p T420 and the IPS FHD screens

>>57479028
Cheaper than what I would sell one for.
Just sold a T430 in similar spec for $250.

>>57477817
This

>>57479028
>170 for i5 420 with an HDD, broken parts, no mention of battery
hahaha, no

when will lenovo realese the the retro thinkpad? last ive heard was sumtime in 2017

>>57480441
I didn't know companies usually released their vaporware pr stunts

just got my t420 from ebay. Missing a driver for the webcam to work, i dont really need it i just want to solve the problem. If anyone can offer advice I'll be thankful. running windows 8.1 (cant downgrade to 7 or upgrade to 10

>>57480878
>cant upgrade to 7 or downgrade to 10
fixed

why not though?

>>57480905
I'll be honest I'm retarded when it come to working with non apple products. This is the first device i have that isn't apple. I can't go back to Windows 7(I'm more familiar with) beçause I'm sure I'll fuck something up. I'll work slow and steady at this, first adding ram, fixing the webcam drive, get some Linux distro and so on. Working with macs all my life really put me behind in general computer knowledge

>>57477592
>>57477592
>>57477592
>>57477592
>>57477592
How long do your 3 cell batteries last anons? Mine is about an hour on my x220

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Buying from Ebay, seller has 98$ positive with over 1000 sales. It's free delivery and very close to my city. Want to use it for GNU/Linux. Thoughts?

>>57481472
My personal is a t420s. I can give you pros and cons.

Actually just going to give cons, pros are pretty obvious. Cons are battery is meh, 3hr max with a new battery. Battery slice is expensive and doesn't add much. No GPU. Also not sure why the seller says 1366x768. Should be 14x9. I don't think they even made the laptop in that resolution. Overall good buy, had no problems with linux or windows

>>57481498
Battery life and no GPU don't really bother me, won't use it for gaming and i won't be going anywhere without power for more than 3 hours i reckon. I'll buy it then, hopefully it arrives soon. Cheers mate.

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Me>Gf: look at my new laptop! Is damn great (T430)
Gf: looks like my father's old laptop, is totally shit, I couldn't even watch a YouTube video or surf the web
Now is in my old house, it should work but I don't have the charger
Me: what....? What do you have?! I want that thing here. Now.
Here it is. Now what?

>>57481093
google it you retard

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>>57481531

>>57481531
Learn how to greentext
Jesus fucking christ

>>57481531
>trackpoint gone
How the fuck?

I guess nobody will ever answer my question about battery life. I just want to know if 1 hour of battery life on my X220 is average for a 3cell.

>>57481679
No. 1hr per cell is the norm

Hey /tpg/, do you happen to know which ThinkPad models are Coreboot-able? I know the Libreboot-able models are all C2D affairs, I'm looking for something slightly newer and I'd like to at least have Coreboot.

I think my ideal situation would be
>i7 T430 for SATA III and USB 3
>1080p IPS panel
>Coreboot
>9-cell
I'm not particularly worried about the T430's keyboard, it's not the abortion the early X1 keyboard was.

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What do you guys think about the thinkpad 13?

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>>57481679
Not really, a T420 with the 9cell gets like 9h idle and 6h with normal usage or something around that.

>>57482167
why is she screaming at that thinkpad

>>57481472
$420 dollary-doos!!
Specs look good, just delete winblow$ and install debian or gentoo.
The fingerprint reader might not work anymore on linux, but there are some fixes that might fix it.

>>57481093
Kill yourself le macfag.

>>57482681
Sorry, meant $274 dollary-doos!

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>>57481560

>>57482696
Yeah didn't need to eat tonight anyway. Beers a supplement for food, right?

>>57481472
1366x768 is not fun to use.

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My x201 just arrived with win7 preinstaled.
Im trying to boot up ubuntu mate from usb, but then this happens, please help.

>>57484001
I solved it.
Thank you for interest, cunts.

>>57477609
>tfw new display cost over half the price of the laptop
Better a fixed machine than one fit for the skip. Sounds like you did quite well to get the display.

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>>57477592
Lads, I've seen the X200 (era 2008), with a Core2 Duo P8600 2.4 GHz and 6GB RAM in rip-off Ireland. The mad man is selling it for €200, is even getting it for €100 a bad deal?

>>57484467
I dont know about x200, but I bought my x201 i7 with 128SSD, 4GB RAM and 9cell battery together with docking station for 170e.

>>57484506
First gen i7? Still a great bargin.

Mine will have slight more RAM than, a new SSD can be had and preferred for cheap and I'm likely to use it plug in at libraries/archives to use it as a glorified typewriter (with a lightweight linux OS).

>>57481668
Happened to my father as well. He said he thinks it went missing after vacuuming the keyboard.
Thank goodness for x10 caps for 1 dollari and eternal father-gratitude for saving the computer.

>>57484547
Yup, first gen.
They are maybe cheaper in western Europe, but for my country its a great price.

>>57484678
Question remains, is even €100 to much for something I just want to be a portable typerwriter?

>>57484714
Its not if you can afford 100squids for a typewriter.
Where I live, some people are working entire month for a 200e paycheck.
So thats it.

i've got myself t420 with 4GB RAM seated in the slot under keyboard, also bought separate 8GB RAM stick for upgrade.

i've tried inserting 8GB stick into the empty slot, but it won't boot with it - after i press the power button it turns on, i can hear fans working, the power diode is lit, but screen is dark and nothing else is happening.
Any ideas what might be the problem?

Replacing my X200s with an X230 with IPS screen this week. Best laptop form factor ever imo

Does the x230 make a lot of noise?
Also how good is it for gaming?

>>57478772
I think it looks pretty cool honestly.

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>>57477592
Guys I need a Drive bay and cover for the T61 I recently picked up, what are the differences in dimensions between the 4:3 and widescreen 14.1". I have the 4:3 and its a bitch looking on amazon because they don't differentiate.

confirmed date for next series or thinkpads released yet or no?

Any recommendations for something silent to use in an university? I'll mostly use it for coding more than anything.

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I hate you people.

You made me buy a T520, and I find out when I really need ADB drivers that they just don't work, any of them. Not even universal drivers.

I now have to take a whole different laptop just for my android development class so I can test apps on my phone.

Don't fall for this meme laptop. Obscurity is BAD.

>>57485298
>falling for the don't do product research meme
you memed yourself friend :^)

>>57485307
I did product research, I just didn't predict I would be touching android development ever

>>57485298
we didn't make you buy shit, dumbass

>>57485298
try harder

How much should I pay for X220 IPS/i7/8/128 SSD/Grade B?

>>57485382
No more than 180

so are there any coupons for the new ones? only ones I can find are SAV15THINKPAD and thats it. There's gotta be like a really big one right?

>>57481472
>$274
you're joking right?

>>57482110
I'm wondering if the line will spin around the bowl one more time before it finally goes down the shitter

>>57481650

underrated.

how much should I pay for a half year old 4th gen x1 carbon?

Can someone with T420 and i5 2520M run CPU-Z, press "Stress CPU" button, wait for 3 minutes and tell me CPU temps?

I was getting 86 yesterday. Today I changed thermal interface and getting 68. I think that's still too high.

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Got this for £175 in really good condition apart from a few keys having the letters missing. T430 with a 256GB sandisk ssd, 3320m i5, 8gb ddr3, original charger and battery. Really pleased so far, really quiet and boots rather quick.

Cheapest Thinkpad that can run Overwatch at 60 fps?

>>57487181
Get out.

>>57487181
>>>/v/

>>57487181
the Thinkpad K Y or S series will do it for you

>>57483556
>Beers a supplement for food, right?

Not modern beer, but mead was and is.

>>57487229
Oh thank yo- hey wait a minute

>>57484714
I like my x200 and have more than that in it, tho I added an SSD, dock, and second battery. They are very nice typewriters.

>>57484887
Probably incompatible RAM. Try inserting it in the other slot on its own.

>>57485320
>I just didn't predict I would be touching android development ever

So you get to be a rich developer and buy many computers. Cry us a river.

>>57487176
It's been a year and I don't know which one should I buy... The T420 or the T430

>>57487343
t430 if you want gaymes because better iGPU, if not the cheapest one you can find.

Can all x220 batteries be used in x230s, too?
Are they compatible?

>>57482223
because she can't stand the piece of shit screen

>had a T420 for work
>decent screen, keyboard was shit and took like 10 minutes to boot up

Dunno but so far I've leaned towards Asus laptops and they haven't failed me (never consider shit tier $400 ones) Should my next laptop be a thinkpad?

Not something I'll buy any time soon but I'm just curious what you guys think.

Thoughts on the x201t?

Want something portable for writing lab reports and reading comics

>>57487389
The battery authentication won't let even genuine X220 batteries charge if used in an X230, IIRC.

Thank you, I didn't know there was a battery authentication process.
So, those 3rd party battery manufacturers are programming their batteries to pretend they are genuine lenovo ones?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X120e-11-6-Notebook-8GB-memory-90GB-SSD-Win-10-/282245792144
is this a good price, /tpg/? I just need something portable for light programming, was gonna remove the Windows and install WindowMaker Live or something else lightweight.

>>57487372
Yeah, im pretty sure the T420 is a sandy bridge i5. Or can you get them with ivy i5s?

>>57487568
t420 is sandy vagina only, t430 is ivy

Apparently you can use a ivy on the t420 by flashing coreboot though

What are some good games to play on an x220?

>>57487669
emulators
100% orange juice with friends
aoe2

>>57487669
You should just watch Taiwan child animations, like the rest of us.

Opinions on T460s?

>>57487897
T460's or T460s?

Will I regret getting a t420 instead of a t430 or even newer if it's the same price? I really vastly prefer the keyboard

>>57487963
thinkpad retro release date when
>new specs
>classic layout

>>57487963
Also not gonna mod new keyboard in, I'd def fail

>>57487956
T460's, sorry.

>>57487978
We'll find out at ces. Sadly I wouldn't be able to afford that

>>57487963
>will i regret getting x instead of y when i like x keyboard
what kind of question is that

>>57487998
Y is objectively superior in pretty much everything else though.

>>57488021
iGPU and CPU marginally, everything else is the same or worse.

>>57488053
Why do some people here get the t/x30s then?

Sadly, I can't use my thinkpad at home at all. My desktop is so much better in every way.

>>57488125
Desktops are supposed to shit all over notebooks. Notebooks are crippled for portability. Desktop master race is otherwise superior.

You can always get a Thinkpad keyboard if want.

budget of 300-700 what kind of thinkpad do I get? Mainly for web development and some light graphic shit.

>>57488077
Plenty of reasons such as they want/need the better GPUs or the Ivy Bridge CPUs instead of Sandy Bridge, they might've found a better deal, don't mind the new keyboard layout, etc.

>>57488125
You need the dock for the maximum Thinkmemexperience.

>>57488192
>don't mind the new keyboard layout, etc.
I'd prefer if we didn't acknowledge that such people exist.
Is the aspect ratio the same?

>>57488213
Yes, both have the same shit screens with shit viewing angles and same resolutions (1366x768 or 1600x900).

>>57488263
What a shame. Maybe I should go for a microsoft surface instead? They're 3:2 right?

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>>57481531
Found the portuguese man

I want to hackintosh a P50 (or any recent Thinkpad) because I'm an aesthetic faggot. How well does it work? Sorry if this is a /sqt/ type question, just seemed more appropriate for the Thinkpad thread.

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This in now T520 appreciation thread.
Got it 2 days ago, sexy machine :^)

>>57488380
Get whatever seems better for you.

I wouldn't trade the ease of disassembling, upgrading and replacing the components in a ThinkPad for anything.

Maybe try a 15" T60 with 1600x1200 display or a X60.

>>57488540
>playing video games on your delicious yuppie business machine
Maybe kys

>>57488561
can't you only replace so much? what if it's maxed out?

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>>57488540
what's this?

>>57488569
That's a wallpaper, the fuck are you talking about.

opinion on the W520 & W530?

>>57488609
Then you use it until it breaks and if some component does it's easily replaceable.

>>57480905
both are upgrades though, 7 is just comfier than 10.

>>57484421
;^)

>>57488629
It might be bezel. I might be wrong though.

Should I put my money on X230 grade a condition with i5 or grade b with i7? Also is there any notable performance difference on X220 vs X230?

Just 2 measly months left

>>57487176
Still waiting for mine ;_;
690 shekelz i5 3320m and HD+ screen
it comes with a 90W charger, I hope that it doesn't mean that it has an nvidia gpu

>>57488777
I mean that square thing, looks like a color calibrator or something.

>>57488677
W520 is the best --20 machine, hands down. Haven't tried a W530 but I'd assume the same applies for its generation.

>>57488540
how fuck your cat looks like it should be airbrushed on the side of a van, or leading a revolt against the goblin king.

fucking badass/10 would pet and snuggle with.

>>57488812
According to hmm it's cover for a screw.

>>57488805
top kek in terms of shekel price

Hi /g/anons. How to clean Thinkpad cover? On my T420's cover there are many scratches, and I can't remove it. Is it way to clean it?

>>57488838
oh that's disappointing.

>>57488861
with stickers :^)

>>57488821
Never really understood. What differentiates it from the t500s?

>>57488829
Cause it is maine coon. It's special breed of cats that look badass. Just like /g/ is special breed of people that have autism.

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>>57488850
they keep the it low relative to the dollar/euro so farmers could make a living exporting

>>57488861
sandpaper, epoxy resin, and a black sharpie

>>57488053
there is a clear difference between sandy and ivy.
always go for the _30 if you are choosing between them

>>57488877
>more ram
T520 - 16Gib, W520 - 32 Gib
>better cpu
both support quad cores, but you can safely use xm's on W-series
>gpu
T5**-integrated or shitty nvidia
W5**-less shitty (still shit though) quadro

T series are usually cheaper as well

>>57488956
There is not, your FUD is getting really old at this point.

>>57488972
Are they different designs or is the difference just how much they crammed in there?

>>57489202
no design is basically the same W might be a bit bulkier

>>57489202
I read somewhere that you can even swap motherboards beetwen them. Don't quote me on that.

>>57488629
I think thats the screw cover for the bezel. My old thinkpad T61p had big ass covers like that

>>57489713
You can get fresh covers and screw kits off Ebay if needed.

>>57481531
Put it into the trash

How complicated is changing the audio jack on T420

Read a bunch of stuff of stuff and ended up finding a T420 with i5-2540/4GB of ram/250GB HDD/Win7 Pro with charger and fine battery on craigslist today for $130 dollars. Works perfect and I don't see any issues with it beyond slight physical wear. Wanted to thank you guys for these threads as I was really at a loss for finding a good small work laptop for a bit as I'm not as familiar with laptop stuff as I am with desktop PCs.

What thinkpad has the best keyboard? will mainly use for programming

>>57477592
What's the secret to buying a refurbished thinkpad online? What are the signs to avoid?

I need to get a computer for work, something durable that can survive being on a construction site and other less-than-desirable environments and don't want to sink a lot of money into something that could be stolen.

But buying refurbished online has its horror stories. Are there any recommended sellers?

>>57491580
>T420 with i5-2540/4GB of ram/250GB HDD
oy vey stock as fug config

The possibilities to upgrade it are endless.

>>57491776
T/X/W*20 and under

>>57491793
ebay

>>57491828
Yeah, it seemed so when I was reading on it, I'm probably gonna get a mSATA SSD for it and upgrade it to at least 8GB of RAM. Beyond that I'm not too sure what I would do it with upgrading it, still new to the laptop stuff. I'm fairly impressed with how much you can change with these things and just how many spare parts are to be found.

>>57491921
Which screen res does it have?

>>57478895
hell no

>>57491946
1600x900, forgot to mention that. Also uses the IntelHD graphics.

>>57491921
>Beyond that I'm not too sure what I would do it with upgrading it
9-cell battery, 16gb ram, docking station, triple drive (msata ssd + 2hdds/ssds), quad core i7 cpu, egpu setup if you want to shove a desktop graphic card there and play games.

Does anyone here do programming on a T420? Is it a good experience?

>>57492044
Interesting, I figured it'd be a big hassle to switch to a higher end cpu and thought that it only had slots for the msata ssd and one hdd/sdd not two. I'm not interested in games beyond the occasional Dwarf Fortress as I just don't have the interest or time anymore. The i7 would be nice. I'm admittedly ignorant of what you mean by docking station.

>>57492154
>it'd be a big hassle to switch to a higher end cpu
For the T420 it's only removing the keyboard, palmrest and 4 screws then swap the CPUs.

>slots for the msata ssd and one hdd/sdd not two
msata slot is at the back next to one of the ram sticks, 1 screw.
HDD1 is the main drive bay and HDD2 is replacing the ultrabay optical drive for a HDD caddy with the second or third drive.

>I'm admittedly ignorant of what you mean by docking station
youtu.be/hnezqFu6crU

>>57492245
>youtu.be/hnezqFu6crU
That's pretty cool, I'll definitely be getting that too.
As far as the rest I appreciate that knowledge, I for some reason thought that switching out the CPU would have me messing with a new OS install and the like but I wasn't thinking fully. And switching out the optical drive for additional space for ssd/hdds wasn't something I was aware of. This purchase just gets better and better for me.

>switch "new" t400 to discrete gpu
>no longer boots
>power button causes fan to spin, disk drive to spin for a few seconds, battery light and power light turn on
>display doesn't turn on
>four short beeps can be heard faintly, only with ear pressed against keyboard

I've tried the stupid static discharge trick, reset cmos, reseated the cpu and ram, and tried different drives, ram and monitor.

Four short beeps points to dead motherboard, but in any video of a beep error it's much, much louder than the one i get.

pls help

Why do you guys not talk about the Edge series? It has a mobile Nvidia video card built into it for only around $500 instead of the shitty intel HD graphics.

>>57483502
sorry senpai.

(Informal speech doesn't require a comma when separating clauses when the meaning of the sentence is understood without context.)

>>57485298
That's really surprising to me. As is memed, Thinkpads usually have unmatched amounts of support for 3rd party software. Where did you confirm you couldn't run debug software?

thoughts on x131e? I absolutely love mine. Have an i3 3227u in it and 8gb ram

>>57494409
That model is cute and super cheap, thinking about getting one on ebay.

>>57494465
I love mine. There's not a game I can run thus far, although more demanding games need to be run at 800x600, but with an 11.6 screen it isn't that bad CSGO at 720p runs great. Best powerful and small from factor laptop, in my opinion. I highly recommend getting one

>>57494544
Sorry for jumbled text. I'm drunk

>>57494544
I just bought one, I'm probably just gonna run a handful of competitive games and put photoshop/musicworkstation/unreal4 on it.

Thanks for reminding me about it, I'm hype.

>>57493187
Dead system board or faulty memory. Currently work for ibm/lenovo and have to replace system boards for this shit all the time.

>>57494544
x131es are good, easy to work on. Hinges give out a lot due to faulty plastics in the right hinge and will crack plastics so be careful.

>>57494544
>found one for $40 from the US
>$66 shipping
le third world face

>>57494658
I said right, but i meant left. Either way theyre okay.

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Since my optic drive started to die, Can't burn anything with it.
What should I do?
Get a caddy and install HDD/SSD, Or leave it since the optic drive can still read and get mSata SSD or get mSata USB 3.0?

>>57494750
Get an empty caddy and store weed or adapters/flash drives in it.

You should've running an msata ssd already because who the hell uses a hdd as main drive in 2016.

>mSata USB 3.0
wat

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got this X41 tablet laptop from my old man today. he has like 6-7 old thinkpads lying around doing nothing and i thought this one looked pretty cool

i've always wanted one like this, but i never knew what i wanted to put on it. what OS/distro? is 1gb of memory enough?

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>>57494780
>mSata USB 3.0
Sorry I meant ExpressCard
https://www.amazon.com/GMYLE%C2%AE-ExpressCard-34mm-Adapter-Dual/dp/B0045BLP1S/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479026643&sr=1-1&keywords=t420+usb3

anyone want to buy my w530?

>>57494819
install some avant garde distros

>>57494819
Install FreeBSD or OpenBSD.

>>57494578
Update, just got an SSD and gonna upgrade it with 16gb of ram later on.

Can I replace X230 keyboard with US layout to DE layout?

>>57494646
fug
The Pajeet is willing to take it back and there's a t410 the next street over. Might nick that one

Was this bullshit exclusive to T400s? or is this the standard for ((((recent)))) thinkpad quality?

i made the decision to get an ssd.
since I will put it in the msata slot (i.e. 3 instead of 6 gb/s) should I bother about performance/quality of the card?
I was eyeing the Evo 850, but if the msata slot doesn't let it shine, i might just get a cheap one and save the 30-40 bucks.

>going to buy thinkpad to save money
>it probably needs new battery so find one from eBay
>9-cell 94Wh at cost of 74 €
Not so cheap anymore.

>tfw I can't decide between an x220 with an IPS, a t420 and a w520
Can I have some input please? I'll be using it for college and watching Chilean cave paintings.

Is the T420 a meme worth getting?

>>57497213
I got T420, because x220 is too small and w520 is too heavy.

[spoiler]Now it's heavy and small at the same time[/spoiler]

How can you /tpg/ stand your low-res 90's screen on 2016?

CES SOON FRIENDS

>>57497592
>T601F - 1600x1200 IPS at 15"
>X201s - 1440x900 at 12"
>W520 - 1920x1080 at 15.6"
Non-pleb Thinkpads don't have this problem.

>>57497592
>How can you /tpg/ stand your low-res 90's screen on 2016?

I use external monitors for content consumption/fapping compared to which all laptop screens are tiny and pathetic.

I use Thinkpads for durability, ease of mods/maintenance, their lovely docks, and because my rural power goes out often enough that a notebook battery makes a convenient UPS.

Pleb Pad screens are great for reading manuals and tech data. That's what they are for any why I scatter Pads without external monitors around my home and shop. Linux support makes it convenient to boot some from USB flash as shop PCs.

Pads are great for data rescue when working on other people's PCs. I keep a T61 with no hard disk and a box full of USB flash drive live WinPE and Linux OS along with adapter cables (for full height drives). A caddy lets me load new hard disks in my Pad and copy over files from the old disk in the drive bay or whereever. I used to do that shit with a desktop but Pads take less space.

>>57497596
>CES
Isn't a new thinkpad outer shell design due?

Just ordered a x220 on eBay to replace my 2010 MBP. I'm pretty reliant on Ableton Live and Photoshop but hate using Windows, how viable/reliable would Hackintosh be? Would I be better to try to get these to work in WINE?

>>57497991
"""RETRO"""(read: actually functional for getting work done) DESIGN THINKPAD WILL BE ANNOUNCED

>>57498099
It actually works really well: http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

>>57498159
I'm trying to do this but when I start to install it just says

"macOS could not be installed on your computer"

"Target volume appears to be invalid"

I've formatted the drive like two dozen times now, I just don't get it

>>57498400
It worked for me without problem so I can't help you much, but you could try booting some prepared distro(was it called niresh?) and then make installer using that.

>>57498423
I've made installers from two different osx installs, one in vmware and one on the laptop in question before i nuked the drive to upgrade

should've done a backup, i guess

>>57498099
How much did you pay and what specs & condition?

>>57498477
$219, 8GB RAM, i5 2520M, 160GB SSD, slight scratches on body. My only concern is the size of the SSD.

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uh oh.
Was gonna ask for a thinkpad t420 or t520 here for christmas.
That's usually reasonably within his gift giving budget, but since he's paying some of my sisters vacation he is gonna have a higher present budget this year for me. I feel like if I say I specifically want the t420 or t520 that would be perceived as rude and presumptuous, so he might foolishly buy me a newer and more expensive thinkpad instead.

>>57498600
Get dock for moar storage. Every Pad should have a dock.

>>57498693
*gonna ask my dad

How many ThinkPads do you own and what are they for, /tpg/?

t61 here, looking for a newer model
should I buy a x230/4 ram/i5/hdd for 200 euro from some webshop?
or should I be patient and wait until i find something more interesting on (craigslist alternative)?
thanks in advance

How to control the fan from linux? (Or at least just see RPM)

>>57481650
>furniture
keke

>>57477592
What's a good 1080p IPS and quad core Thinkpad or Thinkpad like laptop, with a good keyboard and build quality?

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>>57481531

>>57481531
Rough translation into English:

>Me to my gf: Hey look at my T430 laptop, isn't it great
>"Is shit"
>I moved house and lost the charger, gf won't give it to me
here is my nice laptop

>>57499080
W520

>>57498730
Five or six T61s as AutoCAD/utility/shop/data recovery machines. Mix of Linux and Windows hosts and guests.

x200 for travel and power outages (extra battery and battery life please me). Windows for Office and printing (Linux has no IDENTICAL Office replacement and printing lags Windows, my notebooks are tools not ideological statements), Xubuntu VM for everything else.

x200t because was curious about tablet. I don't use the tablet function much but it's as handy as the x200 notebook. Had xubuntu and Ubuntu on it, Windows 7 at moment.

Docks are love. So are drive caddies.

>>57481531
install a lightweight linux distro.

>>57485298
>you made me
Great

>>57486432
$800 for a beat to shit, broken screen i5
$800 for a top spec i7, IPS QHD, 3TB SSD

>>57487531
I've yet to buy one but there's quite a few eBay sellers advertising as T430 batteires and not saying they are compatible for the T420

>>57488187
W541 might be affordable
T460s

>>57500421
W541? whats the difference between that and a W540? also more vids when?

>>57500447
W541 has the newer GPU from the W550, but with real non-ULV CPU options. I think it also has the physical trackpoint buttons that were brought back with the --50 generation, but don't quote me on that.

>>57500919
so basically good enough hardware for another what like 5-7 years and the clitmouse that is godlike? seems bretty gud. I'll do some research and see if any are in my area on craigslist then ebay Thanks Anon and xsauc!

>>57500421
>>57500919

someone give me advice on how to handle this.
>>57498693

>>57500967
Ask for a W520 or W530 instead. They retained their value much better than their T series cousins.

>>57501020
>W530
my entire concern is that they'll buy me a model with chiclet keys

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Anyone have experience running an E-GPU from a W520?

>>57501029
Well, just W520 then. Although you can swap the chiclet keyboard in the --30 models for the classic one from --10 and --20 generations. There's an EC mod that makes it work much better than it used to, almost all the keys work perfectly with it flashed.

>>57501029
I'm literally asking for books this christmas from parents. Just be specific or ask for cash specifically. Then again my family knows that I prefer cash since I buy specific stuff or usually don't know what i want.

Is an X220 with 8gb ram, 120gb ssd, official battery+charger worth 300 eurodollars? am i getting chinked?

>>57501065
but I'm afraid they'll think I'm autistic ;-;
>>57501051
how hard is that though? I'm extremely poor at handling hardware, and how much would it cost me to get that keyboard.

>>57501107
well what are your spending habits like usually? It works for me since my family knows I don't spend a lot.

>>57501107
There's step-by-step instructions on the page for the mod: https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec
The physical replacement of the keyboard is also fairly easy, documented here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

The keyboard looks to be around $20-$40 on ebay.

>>57501123
How is that relevant? I mean, my family is pretty damn rich, but I never ever ask them for money, this is the only time I feel comfortable asking for a sort of monetary assistance.
I can hardly overspend, I'm a poor student

>>57501156
What keys do not work?

>>57501159
same here but they'll think it's not autistic if you don't spend money frequently

I just installed Mint and my FN keys in Windows are no longer working. How is that possible?

>>57501184
According to the readme, only Fn+F3 (either shuts the monitor off or opens the power manager) and Fn+F12 (hibernate). Neither are essential or even particularly useful.

>>57501077

you're getting chinked, a standard x220 with genuine battery, charger, mechanical hdd, and some amount of ram would be £80-100 then it's only a bit extra on top for the ssd (£40 for 160gb new), some extra memory and maybe £30-50 for a good condition 9 cell genuine battery, I wouldn't expect to pay more than about £150-200 sourcing all the parts myself but you could source a decent x220 for £100 off the bat and pay £40 for a 160gb ssd

Why are used thinkpads so cheap compared to today?
Older Thinkpads have very good specs compared to some of lenovo's recent laptops and cost triple in price

>>57501437
Companies bought them by the truckload at bulk discounts and then dumped them a couple years later, flooding the shit out of the market. We're seeing this happen to the --40 generation right now, a T440 can be had for like $200 now, when a year ago they were $400-$500 or more.

>>57501202
so keytravel and everything is the same as w520?

>>57501512
It's the same keyboard, so yeah. Just know that there are three different manufacturers for Thinkpad keyboards and each one has their own feel. Each manufacturer has a separate FRU, but I don't know which is which, so it's a bit of a gamble.

>>57488540
The thing I hate about most LCDs is that the slightly blue hues will distort the color of the surrounding areas.

Sweet cat btw

>>57500967
just tell him what you want, what you really, really want

>>57501878
I wanna really really really wanna zigazig ha.

>>57501878
I wanna really really really wanna the fucking T420 FHD mod it's been forever REEEEEEEE

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the retro thinkpad will be an underwhelming 16:10

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>>57498109
> $3000 base model

> Limited inventory

>>57502116
limited inventory? like they'll only make 10000?

>>57502116
LENOVO NO

>>57484467
If you can get it for 100€ then yes, my X200 (P8600, 2 GB RAM, 160GB HDD) cost me around 80€ but this was a couple of years ago so YMMV

>>57502116
Wonder if there will be docks for these.

>>57484960
I went from a X200 to an IPS X230 as well and I absolutely adore it, The keyboard feels better (but the layout is worse), the screen is amazing and USB 3.0 is a fricking godsend

>>57498109
>"""""""""""""""""""RETRO""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
I hate this fucking meme

>>57502407
you hate me denying that it is retro by putting it in quotes?
or do you hate the quote meme?
Or do you hate the lenovo meme of implying that good design is "retro"?

>>57502602
>Or do you hate the lenovo meme of implying that good design is "retro"?
That part. I should have been more clear but thinking about what Gookovo has done to the line over the years had me mindlessly shitposting before I could control it

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>>57502296
>The keyboard feels better

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What is this crap? I tried cleaning it with wet mop

>>57502909
Put some acid on it, it should work.

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I have a T430 already but I want to buy a T60 for the 4:3 screen and the sexy IBM logo. Is this stupid?

>>57503354
Not at all. The T60 is a thing of beauty. Get a 15" one so you can enjoy an IPS display with your 4:3.

>>57503354
can't you frankenstein the 1600x1200 screen onto a t61p?

>>57503509
Other way around, you swap a T61 board into a T60 shell. There are no 15" 4:3 T61s, so you can't swap the screen from a T60 onto one.

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>mfw the wifi card on my x60s is unbearably hot
just end my life senpai imo desu

>>57488805
>I hope that it doesn't mean that it has an nvidia gpu

You can usually find if it does in the psref before buying...

>>57495430
I've noticed it more so in the newer t400 series units, 450s, 460s.

>>57481679
My Elitebook 2560p with a 3cell gets around 1~hr, so, yes, I would assume it's normal.

>>57503559
is that hard?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKAeXgCZP94
makes me sad.

>>57505313
Not terribly so. This video explains everything you need to know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m74otZqd2Y

The hardest part is sourcing all the components. Do as the video suggests and get a whole sacrificial T61, hunting for an individual motherboard is a bit tricky. For the host T60, your best bet is to look for a T60p, since they all had SXGA+/UXGA IPS, no XGA TN like the majority of T60s you'll find.

Is there much to be gained from upgrading your ram to 16gb? I currently own a X131e with 4gb of ram.

>>57505531
Not if you don't feel immediately limited by 4gb ram. If you often have ram maxed out it'd help

Has anyone had luck purchasing batteries?

Need a new one for my used X201.

>>57477592
Anyone got a x120e? What's it like? What's the battery life like?

>>57478895
No, considering I was able to get a T430 for $301, brand new, sealed in box. Threw a 256g SSD, a 500g MSATA SSD and a 9 cell in it and I love it now.

>>57502909
That's mold. Do you have rust anywhere on that laptop? Any signs of moisture? Check the HDD make sure it is nice and dry. Consider returning it you may have a thinkpad with diffused life expectancy.

>ordered a T420 on Thursday
>it's just a town away from me
>Friday is the estimated delivery day

This is what I get for being cheap on shipping.

>>57505608
I purchased one for mine off Newegg. Cost ~$50, and ACPI told me it was at 100% capacity after a TLP recalibration. I get ~10-12 hours of battery life 100-0%, but I try to keep it between 40-80% for the long-term health of the battery.
Here's the link:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAAP640N6609

>>57505771
>~10-12 hours
only if you let it sit there on idle on lowest brightness maybe. My everyday experience was 1/3 that with x120e

>>57505806
Nah, that's with web browsing (50+ tabs in Firefox). I use Linux (various distributions) with TLP. Watching high bitrate videos (anything higher than 1080p youtube) will cut it down to about 6-8 hours, but 4chan, news articles, Discord, duckduckgo, and various forums on Firefox will let it run for ages. I use 2 batteries, one that came with it (ACPI reports 60% original capacity), and the newer one I bought. I keep it set to 40-80% using TLP, and I get through a 2-hour class with my old battery before it drops below 40%. On my new battery, it only drops to around 60ish%. Note that it's just writing notes and using the college wifi, not doing anything like intense video processing or program compilation.

>>57505806
>>57505896
Forgot to mention, usually keep brightness 25-50% of maximum on the screen. It's actually bright for indoor usage, but the matte screen keeps 50-75% also somewhat usable outside, but I typically keep it at 100% when I'm outdoors. Also note that both batteries I have are 9-cell, and I use the i5 model x201.

Bought a second hand Lenovo Helix 1st gen for $400 in what looked like as new condition off eBay for $400. Touch screen/digitiser were a constant problem. 2 new screens, new motherboard and fucky Lenovo techs that cracked the plastic in 4 different places they finally agreed to replace it with a new X1 Yoga. Cheering because it has less than a month of warranty left now.

Is the new X line as sketchy as the other new ThinkPads?
And will I have the newest meme laptop on /g/?

On an R500 here. How can I rebind my FN key to my right control key? I was on a thread the other night and some anon said you can rebind the FN key in bios, but I couldn't find it even in the manual.

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>tfw my x230 is coming in this week

>>57482110
I was considering using it for college.

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>>57506380
Enjoy your comfy

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What's the best site for replacement parts?

I need a new battery for my T430. It holds a charge, but I'm only getting around 1.5-2 hours on average from it.

>>57478895
No way. Around $150 is the ideal price.

>>57485298
Works on my machine

You're probably just using the wrong fucking drivers, asshole.
See if there's one specific for your phone model.

>>57506626
>Works on my machine
My favourite meme.

>>57506538
Ebay for everything but the battery, Newegg for the battery, and only use stuff that's listed as "Lenovo" and has all the stickers and stuff on it in the pictures.

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>>57506780
Thanks. Buying now.

So I'm thinking about an X230T, should I go for something else instead? I find those things to be pretty sweet though

>>57505771
Thank you very much

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Will there ever be more FHD IPS T420 kits?

>>57487181
x131e runs it at 40

>>57487181
W520 with quadro 1000m runs it at 720p/20ish fps

going to coding bootcamp and class is from 9 to 4, any way I can maximize battery life on my 420s without having to carry 3-4 batteries that last 2 and a half hours max on linux even with TLP calibrated and shit?

>>57507489
I also want this

>>57507572
>x131e
I kind of want to get one to fuck around with, but they are butt ugly.

>>57498702
X131e doesn't have a dock :^(

>>57498730
I own one. X131e, used for general computer stuff when away from home, and playing some games at lan parties. Works great for what it is. I like it a lot.

>>57507655
bring your charger

>>57507203
Remember that the thing does weigh 1.8kg, so don't expect to carry it around like you would any old tablet.

>>57508035

tfw rich kids with new laptops that last 10 hours

>>57494819
You won't get much use out of the touchscreen in anything other than Windows desu

yay I just scored 2x4 gigs of Hynix PC3-8500S RAM for 22€ from a guy who bought them accidentally! And they work on my X201!

>>57502698
it's true though, if you use it

Even with the old layout the typing feel has been shit since after the T60, but starting at the _30 series it's good again despite the shit layout

>x200 for $44
>30 min left
>shipping to my shithole is $85.35
fuck

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Thinking of making a hackintosh from T420, how's the drivers compatibility?
Anybody done this?

New thread:
>>57508862

http://s.aliexpress.com/ziyumam6 Is this battery any good? Can't use ebay or newegg.

>>57508889
>Can't use ebay or newegg
As someone who has the same issue and ordered a 9cell 55++ battery from AliExpress that turned out to have a fake serial number but real capacity for $58, stick with $50+ batteries.

>>57508937
But 6 cell would be enough for me. I am good with any shit, I just don't want it to blow up or work under 2 hours.

>>57509158
Then i guess it'd be fine, thought it was a 9 cell so seemed cheap but it was a 6 cell.

>>57508608
honest to god that pic seems comfy as fuck, but the reality is it's not really as nice ;-;