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> Yuliya

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>Tor
>respecting your freedom

>>57471400
Well, more than any browsers anyway..

So... all of them?

>>57471421
Somalia respects your freedoms to do whatever you want. The people living there might not, but that just means they're free to do that.

>>57471421
I allow Ukraine as entry/exit nodes and as middle I allow Russia as well (:

>>57471322
Brazil here, no one gives a fuck if you are running anything onion related.

>>57471457
Yeah, I guess that should be safe too. But I also don't want to kill my performance, so I'll stick with UA and RU.

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>>57471322
>'which do not respect your freedom'
>using windows

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>>57471322
hope you get raped and killed by the separatists soon

>>57471726
> don't want to kill my performance
> I'll stick with UA and RU
Wat

>>57471322
nobody cares about your shit

>making your fingerprint more unique
faggot

>>57471431
I think it's just because the internet infrastructure they have is too advanced and complex for the Somalian state to control.

Nominally stuff like Skype is illegal to use, it's just that Somalia has thousands of ISPs and Mobile service providers and none of them are registered with the state. Somalia have the most advanced mobile infrastructure in the whole of Africa because there was no rules surrounding putting up such infrastructure and no beuracracy and bribery to stop them. (Al Shabab did not take bribes and did not mind people putting up mobile masts, they also only took taxes on money, certain metals and jewlery that people have owned for over one year. No corporate tax and so on so they never implemented any rules against just putting it up)

But that also means that none of that is really registered, the users are not registered, nobody knows who owns whatever phone and all rules surrounding the internet can not actually be enforced. But they DO have such rules after they removed Al Shabab and maybe at one point it might be enforced so don't think they respect your freedom.

>>57471322
{US},{GB},{CA},{AU},{NZ}
done

>>57472533
i would drag my ballsack over broken glass for a mile, just if i had the luck of being born on any of these countries

>>57471457
Are you a lawman or law enforcement? If not, from where do you get that? Brazil is one of the few countries of LATAM that do have internet/surveillance laws over the internet. Along with Venezuela and Argentina

>>57472277
Nah, I'm fine

>>57472324
I live in UA (:

>>57472375
You do

>>57472383
What?

>>57472533
Idk, I guess those are the most offensive ones, but I'd rather filter everything and allow just a couple of which I'm sure are safe.

>>57472722
Lots if not most countries have internet surveillance laws cause they're necessary for lots of criminal investigation like drug trafficking or money laundering, that doesn't mean they do active surveillance and store everything like 5 eyes countries do cause they simply do not have the ability and neither do their surveillance laws allow it.

>>57471409
>https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en

What makes you think that, silly...

>>57472824
That's because Tor can be used for informational support of terrorists all around the world by American government.

>>57471322
>worried about privacy
>not using whonix, tails, or any linux distro

c'mon Yuliya

>>57471322
Good job Yuliya, now you stand out from the other tro brosers cause you're the only with ublock installed on it.

>>57472824
>https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors.html.en
Well, I don't think that represents a pronlem.

>>57472890
Nah, I want to use Win7

>>57472912
>you're the only with ublock installed
I doubt

Can anyone post any credible links explaining why tor wouldn't be safe or explain in detail. It seems like a meme here but I would like to know if it's legitimate.

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>>57472984
>I want to use Win7

Why would you knowingly compromise security. Do it right or dont do it at all.

>>57473185
It seems secure enough to me.

>>57473129
>It seems like a meme here
Because that's what it is. Nothing more. Tor is as secure as it can be (read: not perfect)

>>57473129
Many exit nodes are believed to be owned by us agencies which can track users. Thats why having control over where you connect is important. Its also a good idea to use a VPN or VPS to connect to the Tor network so even if you are tracked they will only see your VPN IP. There is also a lot of fear mongering to scare people from using Tor because the less people that use, the essier it is to track people. There is anonymity in numbers. So the more people who use it the better.

>>57471322

>not using I2P

pleb

>>57473258
Seeming secure and knowing its secure are very different

>>57471322
>he thinks the country matters

>>57473342
I know it's secure (; No phoning home and nothing executes without my knowledge either.

>>57472468

Todd Blackburn: "That's a nice beach down there. Hows the water?"

Durant: "Yeah, its nice and warm... and it's loaded with sharks."

(Black Hawk Down)

>>57473262
>if you are tracked they will only see your VPN IP.

Oh I'm laffin'

>>57473372
Cool, but CPU is backdoored unless you have pre-2006 CPU.

>>57473632
I have a couple of thinfoil hats, but come on. Worst case I assume it has to be local exploitation, not remote.

>>57473688
https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel
>The Active Management Technology (AMT) application, part of the Intel "vPro" brand, is a Web >server and application code that enables remote users to power on, power off, view information >about, and otherwise manage the PC. It can be used remotely even while the PC is powered off >(via Wake-on-Lan). Traffic is encrypted using SSL/TLS libraries, but recall that all of the major >SSL/TLS implementations have had highly publicized vulnerabilities. The AMT application itself >has known vulnerabilities, which have been exploited to develop rootkits and keyloggers and >covertly gain encrypted access to the management features of a PC. Remember that the ME has >full access to the PC's RAM. This means that an attacker exploiting any of these vulnerabilities >may gain access to everything on the PC as it runs: all open files, all running applications, all >keys pressed, and more.

>>57471322
Marry me

>>57475192
Libreboot only works on like 2 computers though
It doesn't even work on my X220 which is probably the most popular Thinkpad

>>57475574
Cool, their point still stands.
CPUs are backdoored.

>>57475192
Hmm, I don't see how that coud be used by some stranger. As for those exploits, again, nothing executes itself unless you open it.

>>57476880
Don't really care if it's stranger/government/company. Backdoor is a backdoor.

>>57476970
From that it doesn;t sound as a backdoor. It's more like the wake on lan functionality.

>>57477333

I suppose you thought Hillary was going to win also, eh?

>>57473632
What if it's AyyyyMD?

>>57477680
No (: If I was american I would have voted with Trump

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>>57478051

>Question 34 (5 points):

>In what way does plausible deniability make a good backdoor?

>>57471322
im only worried about most nodes being in usa germany and france.

>>57478091
It doesn;t sound like a backdoor to me. It sounds more like the wake on lan feature.

>>57478097
USA okay, but Germany and France? You might as well be worried about the all the nodes within EU.

>>57478119

kek

That's why you don't work in the security industry. Why don't you go back to smartphone general? Or perhaps Nvidia/AMD is more to your liking?

>>57478142
>That's why you don't work in the security industry.
No, because I'm a pharmacist. But what makes you think that's a backdoor? And if so, feel free to use AMD..

>>57478168

>No, because I'm a pharmacist

Uh huh. Thanks for your "input"

>>57478175
So you have no argument as to why wake on lan feature you consider to be a "backdoor" (not that it's the proper term anyway, but hey, it's your word, not mine, and you seem tto know a lot).

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>>57478191

Lmao. One small part of the argument you now look for has already been posted. Not very smart are you? Why don't you go back to /b/?

When did you leave highschool?

>>57478294
Yeah, it sounds like the wake on lan feature, not your "backdoor". So you gave no explanation for it, well just as expected, spewing memes but nohing more.

>>57478412
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>>57478412

"Pharmacist".

>Yeah, it sounds like aspirin , not your "arsenic". So you gave no explanation for it, well just as expected, spewing memes but nohing more.

xD this thread.

>>57471322
>using Tor on Windows
might as well not use Tor at all

>>57472890
>not Qubes + Whonix

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>>57473258
>windows
>security
pick one

>>57473406
connecting to the tor network from a vpn doesn't adequately hide your originating IP? please explain.

>>57473262
from which countries are exit nodes most considered secure? i'm thinking of netherlands or maybe thats what they want me to think and so all of the ones there are honeypots..

>>57481835
for the purposes of this argument, i am assuming that the vpn isn't contacted to share logs. beyond this, does connecting to the tor network from a vpn hide your originating IP?

Just curious, if you're not:
1. Seeking to buy drugs or weapons or
2. Seeking out CP
what's the point of Tor? Tor gets a bad rep and it's because if you're not doing either of the things above, there's literally no reason to hide yourself.

>>57481927
I like to use the internet like I used to : anonymously.
I haven't even been on any onion address in a year.

>>57472640
where are you from? I'm in US and wouldn't mind marrying for money

>>57481927
You could use it as a VPN. You can show as coming from literally whichever country you want.

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>>57481927
I seek both.
Not even kidding.

>>57481927
Trolling shitlib subreddits and twitter accounts, and avoiding permabans is a pretty good reason for using Tor.

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>>57481927
its used to avoid the state. we all have natural rights that the government originally existed only in order to protect them. at least that's the story with the US. today they barely recognize private property rights. we have the natural right to communicate without molestation, codified by the 1st and 4th amendments of the constitution. both respectively being the freedom of speech and the freedom from searches and seizures. so to answer your question, the point of tor is to circumvent those that take away our natural rights, steal from us, kidnap us for non violent crimes, and to kill many innocent people overseas or domestically from police unprofessionalism.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/obama-to-disclose-how-many-civilians-died-in-u-s-drone-attacks/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/counted-us-police-killings

>>57483690
They can just ban all tor exit nodes can't they?

how does tor provide any freedom or anonymity? people constantly say opposite things in that case

>>57484538
>people constantly say opposite things in that case
Those people are idiots, no wonder.

>>57484538
>how does tor provide any freedom or anonymity?
Practically making users indistinguishable one from anothore. Ofcourse, it's not perfect, but definitely harder to track than normal, in certain cases impossible.