Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux. Are you running it?

Yes, on my libre x200. On my desktop I have arch, and my server has Ubuntu server.

>>57461855
I have installed it for longer than I have used it.
It might be stable for you, but I've never managed to use it for more than a week without breaking something.

I ran testing and then sid for several years. At the end of the day it was just quicker and easier to throw Ubuntu onto new machines.

>>57461872
off yourself, weeb

>>57461875
How come you aren't running Debian on your server?

>>57461855
Yea, I have it on my desktop alongside windows and also have stretch on my laptop.

Yesterday I decided to install Antergos on the laptop.

>I think there was some server issue yesterday because I couldn't install it
>This morning I finally install it with Openbox and Japanese locale
>log in screen is tearing like fuck
>log in and screen tearing stops
>numbers and symbols not rendering at all in terminal or system applications
>password entry when trying to use the package managers uses carrot a's instead of stars
>have no idea how to fix this shit
>debian just werked

>>57461872
Dude, stop spamming your desktop all over /g/, you will be banned

How is it the freeBSD of linux?
>no ports tree
gentoo is actually the freebsd of linux, and you should be installing it.

>>57461990
I am going to move my desktop and server to proxmox(based on Debian) for easy virtualization. I am probably not going to have time to do this for a couple months though.

Arch was the easiest to set up my GPU passthrough on for my desktop at the time, but it looks like proxmox will be even better. With proxmox I am going to run all nonfree software in a VM. Right now I use nvidia GPU drivers and some games in my main GNU/Linux install, but with proxmox I will be able to segment it.

When I set up my server I wanted to get it set up quickly, and I was most familiar with ubuntu at the time. Once I get proxmox set up, I may run a freenas VM for my storage, with a PCI sata controller passed through. I will also be able to keep the proprietary cannon print drivers in a VM, I may even run a windows VM as a print server with the printer passed through, because sometimes cannon's poorly made GNU/Linux driver will put dots on the page. Running everything in a VM should also help my server uptime and stability, as different components can be restarted individually, and I will be able to test things without risking breaking my system.

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yes ofc

>>57462728
pretty aesthetic

>>57462742
Numix Blue ... as you can see on the screenfetch

>>57462691
Open Indiana?

>>57462728
Ancient kernel

>>57461855
>Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux.
+1 for admitting Debian and BSD are shit.

>>57462122
>>57461957

did you ban the pink anime macintosh tranny? you gotta admit that desktop was pretty clean looking

>>57462920
>Open Indiana?
Horrible. Absolutely horrible.

>>57461855
>Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux.
What did he mean by this?

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>>57461855
>Are you running it?
no

>>57463046
I had to install quartus for one of my classes too. It is the only nonfree program on my libre x200.

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posting my distro

>>57463059
GIVE ME THAT CSS YOU FAT CUNT

>>57463070
pls do not call me that

>>57461855
C'mon. Debian can't be t͟h͟a͟t bad.

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>>57463100
Are you a wizard

>>57463093
SORRY FATTY

PLS

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>>57463100

>>57463055
Icarus Verilog works fine, and is WAAAYYY quicker at compiling, but I have no idea what I'm doing without the netlist viewer thing quartus has.

Good luck with your studies, CS/Engineering bro.

>>57463109
i weigh 53 kgs which is not fat

>>57463148
hello skeleton brother
>am 50kg 186cm

>>57463148
CSS PLS MR SKELTAL
PLS

>>57463164

>50 KG at 6'1"

Holy shit how are you alive?

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>>57463106
The wizard of combining low line.

>>57463164
i'm not really talltho lik 5'5" or 5'6"

>>57461855
No, I'm using Slackware, it's more unix-like and similar to freebsd than debian.

>>57463142
Thanks, I will install that so that I can mess around with it sometime. Compiling does take forever, even on the university computers.

>>57463164
lel mr skeltal

>>57463186
>Holy shit how are you alive?
I kinda look like I've been in Auschwitz but otherwise I'm fine.

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>>57462961
im a girl

No, I run OpenBSD.

>>57461855
>Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux. Are you running it?
I would say Sourcemage GNU/Linux is, but his portslike package manager is far better than anything on BSD. They even try to port it to BSD, but fuck that.

>>57461855
>systemd

No thanks.

>>57464042
this
anything that uses systemdicks is nothing like BSD.

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>>57461855
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57464207
thank you for that clarification good sir!

>>57461855
>Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux
Not it's not.
Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is.

Anyone else tired of this worthless BSD shilling? The ports package manager are nothing new, other distros have it including Gentoo and Source Mage, the only other thing is the installer which Slakware is the king.

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>>57464268
Who would use FreeBSD or OpenBSD when GNU/Linux exists? What benefit or advantage is there? None, as far as I know.

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>>57461855
noirunubuntu.png

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>>57463367
MFW

>>57464314
Adding to that, if you want a kernel to tinker with (comp sci grads) you are better off with the HURD.

>>57464381
>hurd
>a kernel written by the same group lead by a guy who believes su shouldn't have a wheel group because muh power to the people
>the kernel that only runs on fucking x86
no

>>57464381
HURD is an incomplete mess with no real world application or need for existence. No harm in tinkering with it, but also no good reason to either.

Tinkering with Linux (the kernel) would be much more informative and useful.

>>57464587
Tinking with Unix V6 would be useful.

>>57463491
ok i laughed

>>57461855

Only on my server.

>>57463491
Who is the girl on your desktop?

>>57461901
hahahahahahahahahaha
is this a real comment???

How many times do you fuck up before you learn to read before clicking "Y" in terminal?

>>57461855
Yes, in the form of Xubuntu.

Debian Gnu/kFreeBsd is the freeBSD of freeBsd

>>57464381
If you wanna tinker with something, it better be well-documented and follow sane coding standards. Hurd does neither.

>>57464314

Linux is literally Windows open source edition at this point. Feel free to use it if you like crapware.

Everyone's gradually realizing Linux is not comfy on the desktop anymore and migrating to TrueOS.

On the server side of things, Linux' been dead on the water for a while now. FreeBSD is the way to go for storage and network infrastructure is pretty much OpenBSD's turf, with maybe a little bit of room for pfSense/OPNsense.

You only use Linux these days if you want cheap web servers or VM hypervisors.

>>57466026
>coding

>>57461855
>Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux. Are you running it?
No, I'm running FreeBSD, the FreeBSD of BSDs

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>>57465837

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I do not want your systemd-tainted SJWware no thanks.

>>57466090
What's so bad about systemd?

>>57466090
What's so bad about systemd?

>>57466090
What's so bad about systemd?

>>57466108
>>57466113
>>57466117
whats so bad about openrc/sysvinit

>>57466124
Why would they make systemd if those were working fine?

>>57466124
No support for modern software like GNOME.

>>57466124
Outdated.

>>57466137
thats a good question anon.
>>57466138
>gnome
>>57466142
OpenRC gets updated multiple times a month.

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>>57461886

Nice racism, jackass. Stop posting.

>>57466163
/g/ isn't your safe space.

>>57466174

1- Not funny.

2- Against the rules.

3- Not work safe.

Now go and stay go.

>>57466188
>browsing 4chan at work
don't you have something better to doing.

>>57466201

>posting offensive irrational content just to feel edgy and troll people

Don't YOU have something better to be doing?

>>57466034
So your argument is that Linux is crapware and isn't comfy? Your system can be as minimal as you want, and you can use whatever DE or WM you want.

What DEs are available in the BSDs? What advantage is there to running it over Linux? You still didn't answer the question. I wonder why.

>freebsd security

>>57466188
1- Very funny.
2- Not against the rules.
3- Perfectly work safe.

Go back to plebbit

>>57467888
>Not against the rules
3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism...

>>57461855
Fuck no. Debian is everything wrong with Linux. They fuck with the basic directory structure, compile drivers into the kernel instead of as modules, have outdated as fuck packages with a garbage package manager, no documentation ANYWHERE except for a bunch of threads on shitty forums where the problem is just marked solved because they reinstalled it from scratch.

>>57466076
hahahahahahahaha that was actually funneh!

>>57467888

You're getting trolled friendo

>>57464248
>kFreeBSD
>Linux

pick one

>>57461855
What would be the OpenBSD of Linux?
What would be the Solaris of Linux?

>>57468671
>garbage package manager
?

>no documentation ANYWHERE
?

>They fuck with the basic directory structure
?

>>57461855
> Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux
> systemd distro
> FreeBSD of Linux
It seems to me that you are mentally damaged. FreeBSD is minimalistic and clean, yet powerful. Debian isn't really minimalistic.

>>57470022
>What would be the OpenBSD of Linux?
QubesOS

>>57462273
devilish

>rx 480 has no support on debian

Fuck

>>57462691
m8 you need Xen. Much more secure than proxmox yet still very usable. FreeNAS devs by the way do not recommend using it in a VM, but if you go for it, they say to use either VMware esxi or Xen. KVM (which proxmox uses) is not recommended.

And Xen has great support for PCI pass through, so you'll not miss it.

>>57470022
Gentoo Hardened

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>>57461855
Hell fucking yes my bro.

>>57461855
I refuse to suck poettering cock, I use gentoo without any of the shit made by that fucking faggot.

>>57470820
I have not used that before, I will look into that. When I was researching my ideas, I found a person who has done most of what I am thinking of in proxmox. I barely know any german though.

https://m.youtube.com/#/channel/UCnZIn_CYjz0ErPs1ktH-2lQ

I'm running Fedora, which is basically the FreeBSD of Linux, but with updates every week instead of once every 5 years.

>>57470908
>>57470820
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnZIn_CYjz0ErPs1ktH-2lQ

>>57466188
b8

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>>57461875
>ruining your chinkpad by flashing trannyboot so hillary can control you
Degenerate desu

>>57463491
Girl (Male)

>not using devuan

>>57470943
How is memehat the FreeBSD of Linux in any way whatsoever?

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>>57471383
I'd love to. It doesn't have Gnome tho. Gnome experience is nice but systemd needs to not be required for it to work right.

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>>57461855

>debian is the FreeBSD of Linux

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>>57471467
does it have KDE though?

>>57466034
>Everyone's gradually realizing Linux is not comfy on the desktop anymore and migrating to TrueOS.

Citation needed. You made a statement you cannot support. Fuck off. The burden of proof, onus probandi, in a debate is on the person making a statement of fact.

Show us statistics to support your contentions.

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>>57471604
>This Thread: The Post

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>>57471670
>the face of me caring

>>57461855
>Deban
>FreeBSD of linux

FreeBSD is updated like fucking crazy

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>>57472012
fuck you ching chong

>>57461855
Void is the NetBSD of Linux, It's made by NetBSD developers.

>>57461855
>no rc,conf
>systemd
I use Debian but it is lacks FreeBSD's simplicity and its documentation isn't as good.

Using antergos now. Fight me irl.

>>57473785
Why? You're already hurting yourself using that piece of shite

>>57473785
kill urself

>>57474960
Name one valid reason that it's a piece of shit.

>>57471257
The wonderful thing about free software is that even if I don't agree with the person writing it, my copy still belongs to me.

Leah Rowe seems to have caused a big issue out of nothing without knowing the facts. I wish that Libreboot was still GNU, because that helps development, but I hope that the project survives.

Also, I think Hillary and Trump were both horrible presidential candidates. I could not vote for either of them with a clean conscience. Trump (just like Hillary would have) is going to continue the powergrab by the executive branch and increase the power of the surveillance state. We will need projects like Libreboot and GNU to combat that.

>>57476770
Well what's the point? You just threw your cards on the table so hard they bounced off and sliced my face open, meaning your idea of "valid" will not mesh with mine no matter what I say.

But I'm bored and slightly drunk so maybe I'll humour you. The installer is weapons grade garbage. Didn't work for months, and asking about it on the forums I was ignored several times weeks apart. When it's finally installed--because you got lucky--sure it looks nice OOTB but multiple things are broken. For e.g. I installed libreoffice-fresh, completely unusable. Okay fair enough, let's go with libreoffice-still, that should work, right? Nope, UI is all fucked. It sort of works, but the menus are black on black now so good luck actually using it.

Oh yeah, lightdm. First thing I had to do post-install was replace that with gdm, because it locked up every time I tried to log in. Whatever, fine, it takes two commands to fix I'll get over it. Couple of hours later I'm minding my own business and BAM! Screen goes black. Maybe a kernel panic? Capslock isn't flashing though so maybe not. Machine turns off. Reboot. journalctl. Oh, light-locker dumped a big stinky core in its pants. What fun!

Antergos, traps and gentlemen.

>>57466108
goes against the unix philosophy is my main annoyance, but it's usable very popular today and it's nice not having a ton of scripts for everything.

I'd prefer runit though

>>57477126
>goes against the unix philosophy
literally meaningless meme argument

>>57477031
lightdm is discontinued, i think most of the issues were on your part

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>>57461855
Yes.

>>57471257
>choosing your software over the author's ideas
You're literally a SJW

>>57461855
That would be gen-
Oh wait, gentoo actually works. Sorry, you're totally right.

>>57477031
Actually that's arch and systemd, not antergos itself.

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>>57476791
You know TrannyBoot is designed to turn you into a tranny via subliminal messaging right?

Next thing you know you'll be Chrischan.

>>57461855
On my only Linux machine, my SBC.

>>57463100
>Come on, BSD can't be that bad.
FTFY

>>57461855
>Debian is the FreeBSD of Linux

>>57478110
You need more GNU.

>>57479051
No thank you

>>57479100
No, thank GNU.

>>57463254
Same here brother.

>>57463491
Heres another (You) for your counter.
Retard.

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>>57480768
rude but ty

>>57480828
>>57463491
Why are you using a 16:9 screen with OSX?

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>>57481151
You need more pixels and a better OS.

>>57481186
>arch
>ubuntu
>better OS
not even her but what did you mean by this

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>>57481186
wow u fell for alot of bad memes

>>57481196
GNU is a better OS. Arch was the easiest way to set up my GPU passthrough. In a few months I will switch my desktop and server to proxmox, so that I can virtualize all nonfree software completely.

in theory having systemd actually seems a good thing

freeBSD seems more practical though

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>>57481512
>BSD
>practical

>>57461855
so that means freebsd is old and outdated shit?

>>57467876

Lumina is available on BSD but not on Linux.

>>57487146
pretty sure it's availeble on linxu too. It's just a shittier kde for now unfortunately (the whole point of DEs is the unique software, well-integrated with other tools, they rpesent - yet the point of lumina is to ingore that. What a waste).

Thinking about bailing on Debian for FreeBSD or OpenBSD. Anyone prefer one over the other?

>>57462728
>bar on top of screen
are you a fucking nigger?

>>57488973
What's wrong with top bar you fucking racist spic?

>>57463491
Tits or get the fuck out

>>57488973
Can't put it on the (glorious left) side in Cinnamon without tweaking the fuck out of it, so I just leave it there, cause I don't feel like bothering