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Hi, /g/.

I have had the same 24'' ASUS 1080p monitor since I built my first computer about five years ago.

I currently don't play video games or own a GPU but I think it's safe to assume that I will own one in the distant future. Right now, I am focusing on drawing and digital art.

What monitor should I get? Thanks

Monitor thread.
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I'm currently on a 27" 1440p ASUS PB278 monitor and it's way too big to be comfortable.

I think 24" is the highest I'll go. Probably going to buy a new HP 24" 1080p with tiny bezels. Don't need 1440p. It's under $200.
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>>57439870
I got the PB258Q and it's perfect, 25" 1440p.
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>>57439882
How much did it cost? That sounds good because I really like the sharpness of it, the brightness is nice (50-60% is adequate even for bright conditions). If it's at 80% it literally burns my retinas.
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>>57439890
I got mine for $265 each, but that was on sale. They are usually anywhere from $280-320.

The dual arm mount was another $100 from monoprice.
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>>57439792
>art
Get an 2k/4k IPS monitor.
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Depends entirely on what you want. But if you're not gaming, a 4K IPS screen is a good idea.
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>>57439792
24" 1080p isn't bad at all, especially with no GPU. If you feel like wasting money, upgrade to a 16:10 rather than a 16:9 for a more ideal aspect ratio. Also, you can get a very decent GPU for less than the price of a new monitor; they're useful for more than just games.
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>>57440131
I am trying to be more creative and I am afraid that if I buy a GPU, I'll just play games.

Other than video editing, what would a GPU be useful for?
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>>57440249
they have media decoders so you can playback 1080p and 4k video without using any CPU %.

Besides that they're really only useful for gaming, GPGPU computation, or similar.
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>>57439792
I recently got a 27" 1440p Dell UltraSharp U2715H and I'm quite pleased with it.
Great build quality, perfect pixel pitch for me., top notch colors out of the box (comes pre-calibrated) and no ghosting.
The only downside is the shit contrast (950:1) and IPS glow, but I've seen worse. Definitely not a big issue unless you are dealing with very dark content all the time.
And it's slightly expensive at €440.

Since you're into drawing the great colors may be a big benefit.

I'm mainly pleased with mine because of the massive extra workspace, which is particularly handy when programming or working in various editors (such as Unreal)
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>>57440249
Then buy an industrial card. But you don't need anything better than an r7 280 for art.
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get a widescreen(21:9) for productivity, trust me. not those gaymen fags
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it's blowing my mind that people are still buying 24" 1080p monitors.
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>>57442422
i use a 19" 900p monitor, fite me
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>>57442422
I honestly am fine with 1080p. I can tell 1440p is sharper, but 1080p looks sharp enough for me.
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Hey guys. I have a 6700k and a 660Ti and two 24" LG IPS231 monitors.
Problem, one is old as fuck and the other ain't no spring chicken. I can't for the life of me get them calibrated the same and I find 24" way too small and limiting to be honest. I have a Canon 6D and would like more screen real-estate, I'm a hobbyist photographer. But also would like bigger screen for porn as well.
I've been looking at 32" 4k IPS monitors but they seem so damn expensive. Cheapest one I can find is the BenQ one that's going for $1000 CAD on NCIX.
Anyway, would I need to buy a new vid card for using a 4k monitor for non-gaming use?
Is it even worth it to get a 4k 32" monitor?
I'm not exactly poor but $1000 is quite a bit to plonk down on a single monitor.
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>>57442422
I'm sitting on U2414H, everything is great.
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>bought dell ultrasharp in february
>discovered a dead pixel today
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>>57443818
I have a couple on my new U2715H.
I saw them when I looked for dead pixels explicitly. Haven't noticed them since (couple of weeks now). Can't be bothered to swap it out if they're not really noticeable. Depends on the pixel pitch of course. There's always bound to be dead pixels on such a high res screen.
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>>57443980
>There's always bound to be dead pixels on such a high res screen.

Pretty much, even the highest end manufacturers like NEC and Ezio have pixel policies which allow SOME pixels to be hot, dead, or stuck.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_13406-2
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>>57444468
Besides, after a couple of weeks there's so many dust specks and shit on my screen I can't even tell the difference anymore :^)
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>>57439792
Hey guys, i want a good monitor that is over 27 inches wide

what are some good options that arent too expensive? im willing to go to around $350
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I just bought my first monitor over 1080p. how did I do?
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>>57446883
>4k instead of 144hz

Not bad I guess, as long as you don't play multiplayer games.
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>>57443487
Whatever you do make sure it has srgb unless you know what you're doing when it comes to adobe rgb.
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>>57446883
>4K

Honestly the worst choice you could have made? You chose 4K instead of 100+ FPS. Why? You can't even notice 4K on such a small screen. Fuck sake man...
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>>57446994
>Honestly the worst choice you could have made? You chose 4K instead of 100+ FPS. Why? You can't even notice 4K on such a small screen. Fuck sake man...

oh boy you're another one of those 40+ inches 4K retards
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>>57447009

The only retard is you. I own a 4K and a 3440x1440. I'll take 3440x1440 at a 100 FPS any day over 60 FPS. There is a MUCH bigger difference between 60 and 100 FPS than there is 4K vs 3440x1440.
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>>57442422
Why would you want anything else? 24" is my personal limit for comfortable viewing in a desktop environment.
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>>57443980
I got mine today, no backlight bleed and no dead pixels (so far)

I found 1 dead pixel on my U2414H, I dont even care because I use it in portrait and it's in the bottom corner.

The U2715H is really nice though, so glad I didnt buy the $1000 Asus ROG PG279Q
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I just received the 25 inch LG UM57 wide-screen monitor.

It is OK but I am thinking about sending it back for a real 1440p monitor. I just want more screen estate, but I don't pc game much.
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>People can't comfortably use 27 inch screens
How close do you guys sit to the screen? 27 is ideal, I can't imagine it being overwhelming.
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>>57439792
Grown-ups tend to prefer 16:10, 4:3, 5:4 or 1:1 monitors.
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>tfw 34" ultrawide is super comfy
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>>57448840
You're the kid here
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>>57439914
ive heard that with smaller 1440p monitors (<27"), you have to upscale to read text. is that true?
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>>57449162
Not true at all, especially at 25"

the difference between 27" and 25" is very minimal, 109PPI at 27" and 117 PPI at 25"

You only need to start GUI scaling above 120PPI.


I wouldn't want 23" or smaller 1440p, but 25" is fine.
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>>57449162
I imagine so. I have a 27" 1440p one and the text without scaling is just perfect. It's about the smallest it could be within the comfortable range.
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>>57449173
You think this need GUI scaling...?

Lol, it's perfectly readable without any sort of text scaling.
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>>57411023
1/2>>57411023
>>57439792
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>>57448784
>using a monitor in portrait

What is wrong with people?
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>>57449288
It can be comfy, especially if you have an adjustable mount.
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>>57449288
Main 27" is in landscape

Secondary 24" is in portrait. It's really useful for emails and reading pdfs
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>>57442422
Cheap and good enough for gamers.
Plus easy to have more than one.
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>>57449400
I agree, on sale they can be had for under $100.
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>>57443487
If you're not doing anything hardware-accelerated you should be fine, integrated graphics alone will handle desktop usage and basic stuff at 2160p
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2k @ 144hz
https://jet.com/product/Acer-XB270HU-Bmiprz-27-inch-Wide-Screen-LED-Monitor-with-built-in-speakers/912c808951d8480daf70e5a679bb5408

or

4k @ 60hz
https://jet.com/product/Acer-XB271HK-Bmiprzl-27-inch-Wide-Screen-HD-LED-Monitor-with-built-in-speakers/d6eb451d54de487c8ca5ffeec8cb5623

Mind you I'm not some hardcore CSGO player that gets some sort of performance boost from my monitor.
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>>57449783
at 27" i'd get 2k 144hz.

4k is only really super useful at 35-45" screen size because then you can actually use the extra resolution for desktop use.
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>>57449288
Some people have jobs
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Hi guys,

Which monitor produce is the best upgrade from DELL 24" TN.

DELL U2913WM - 29" Ultrawide

DELL P2416D - 24" 1440p

DELL U2515H - 25" 1440p

All IPS monitor with almost same price.
Any other recommendation?

I'm leaning toward U2913WM but this monitor out on 2012 and maybe dont have improvement compared to newer monitor. Is it correct?
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>>57450866
>U2515H
My choice is the 25" 1440p

29" UW is a meme unless a lot of your games take advantage of the aspect ratio.

24" 1440p is almost too sharp, 25" is good though.
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>>57439792
i'm not really happy with any of the monitor choices on the market right now, either get a 4k ips that's so so, or just stick with a 1080p display
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Dell S2216H monitor has speakers and line out which is very useful to send to hifi.

Sound switching actually works unlike on the TV when I was using that as my 2nd.

Smaller monitors are better for typing shit for whatever.
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>>57450961
So the scaling is good enough for 1440p at 25"?
I'm afraid the font is too small. Nearby store don't have U2515H on display for me to test.
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>>57451026
This is the same panel but in the Asus model without any font scaling.
>>57449183
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>>57439792

X-Star or other Korean 27" 2560x1440. I've had one since 2013 and it's pretty wonderful.

Adaptive rate monitors are still new, expensive, and not really well proven. For example, supporting Nvidia's version is expensive, and I have my doubts that it will still be around in five years.
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>>57447964
>24" is my personal limit for comfortable viewing in a desktop environment.

Why? I have a 27" 16:9 and would loooove a 30" 16:10. It doesn't even seem big to me anymore. Hell, I'd go to something like 34".
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>>57451065
I'd honestly be fine with a 40-45" 4k. I have two 25" right now and if I could get that down to a single 40" 4k i'd save a bit of horizontal space and add a few inches of vertical resolution.
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>>57451045
They should offer it royalty free to OEMs, they would make their money back and secure it's future.
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>>57451034
The monitor is not available in my country. I'll go with U2515H for 1440p since 27" almost double the price. Thanks.
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>>57451093

I don't know why we aren't just using existing adaptive frame rate options already built into standards.
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I currently have a DELL SE2216H, I plan on building my first pc soon, and decided I might as well upgrade the monitor. Thoughts on this Asus? https://www.amazon.com/VS238H-P-1920x1080-DVI-D-Back-lit-Monitor/dp/B005BZNEVQ/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref_=as_li_tl&linkCode=sl1&tag=bm070f-20&linkId=9c62a5115b2f68874f42803ce1775afb

Or should I consider somethinmg else? I'm open to other options probably going to build a pc around $600 with a 1060 card.
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I've been using some Benq 21.5 inch 1080p monitor for years and I want to upgrade but I don't know what resolution to get. I'm a hobbyist photographer so getting a 4k screen with accurate colors would be neat but I don't know how practical it would be for gaymen. Does downscaling to 1080p in games look worse than native 1080p resolution monitors? Or should I just stick to a 1440p 144hz IPS monitor and keep running dual monitors?
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I wish 16:10 monitors were still widely available.
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>>57451630
Meme.
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>>57451815
>hating superior usability
>hating superior screen real-estate

why.
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Dell U2515H or Asus PB25Q? If both are same price
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>>57451881
Consumers
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>>57451892
what
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>>57451882
If both are same price dell, they use the same LG AH-IPS panel, but the dell scaler is more advanced and can usually be OC'd a bit (~70-75hz) where as the Asus can't. Also the dell has USB ports and displayport passthrough (you can daisy chain other displayport monitors through the dell monitor only using a single displayport output on the GPU)

I got the Asus cause they were $70 cheaper than the Dell was at the time. But if they were the same price i'd have gotten the dell.
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I want to use one of these as a monitor.

Don't ask why
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what do yall niggas think about 2560x1080 for daily use?
im thinking about getting 29 inch LG monitor(currently still runnig 27 inch 1366x768)
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are you guys actually mentally fucking retarded? every single one of you?
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http://www.frys.com/product/8714081?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Thoughts?
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>>57452020
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If you have a 27" 16:9 monitor you need a 34" to keep the vertical height you are used to. Just a warning.
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Dell IN2020M (1600x900). In use for six years and counting. Hoping to buy me a new monitor for a Christmas gift.
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>>57442422
Just bought a 21 inch 1080p monitor.
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>>57439792
Get a K-panel, one of the A- stock 1440p versions. I've been using one for occasional color work for around two years, considering switching out my 1080p TN side panel for another one. For the price, the difference is really night-and-day between regular consumer monitors
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>>57451906

Conjecture
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>>57447468
who was arguing over FPS ?

My point was stretching out a 4K resolution to 40 or more inches no longer makes it a high ppi display
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Why do monitors still have such noticeable bezels?
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>>57452435
ok
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Is a 27" 1080 display livable if you are mostly going to be using it for gaming? Almost twice the money for 1440 is just a little painful
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I have Dell p2715q it's pretty good. Not for gaming though, 8ms response time is really fucking shitty.
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>>57453798
1080p looks pretty awful at 27" desu.
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>>57454058
>>57453798
This. I wouldn't go over 24 for 1080p assuming normal desk distance.
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>>57448784
>1440p on 27"
why suffer?
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>>57451026
1440p at 25 is perfect without scaling. i have the u2515h, getting the lg ud68 tomorrow. wonder if i can deal with that without scaling.
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>Have D2015H
>25 ms response time
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>>57454165
You can't, it requires 150% scaling which makes it roughly the same resolution as 1440p, but obviously much sharper because of the extra pixel density.
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>>57455380
>>>>>““““requires””””
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>>57455411
Unless you glue your face about 8-10 inches away or you have macro vision or some shit.
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I just got a BenQ BL2420PT from B&H for $250. No complaints so far, and it has Displayport, something I've noticed a lot of cheaper monitors don't have, despite the fact that most newer graphics cards I've seen only have one DVI/HDMI port.
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hey guys quick question... I am buying a Dell Ultrasharp from a friend's friend with about a year of use... is there any tests that I can run to make sure the monitor is working fine? I mean like those tests that reveal dead pixels and proper colors, etc
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>>57455575
you can use your eyes to look at it and see if there are dead pixels and improper colors
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>1440p 24"
>not 27"

Hahahahahahahahaha your damage control is funny.
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Does anyone else have my problem where VESA mount info is hidden or missing? Really annoying.
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>>57447964
24" is fine. or 27" or whatever you like. but smartphone displays, laptop displays, and tablet displays have all moved on to substantively higher pixel densities. operating systems that aren't trash have scrounged together support for high pixel density displays. get yourself a 4k monitor either at 24" (thus 200% of 1080p, so scaling UI elements should be easy), or 27".

>>57449400
>gamers
lol. okay
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>>57455420
I use a 30" 4K monitor without scaling, but I also sit rather far away from my screen. (Much farther than most people, which more than makes up for the difference between 27" and 30")

Friend of mine uses two 4K 24" displays without scaling, but he also sits closer

scaling is really only needed for old people with poor eyesight and idiots buying 15" 4K laptops
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>Want 1440p
>Want IPS panel
>Don't want cheap Korean garbage
>Can't get this for less than 800 dollars where I live.
Fucking hell.
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Convince me GSync isn't worth the premium please, I lack self control
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>want to upgrade to a 1440p monitor
>spoiled by ips
>but also want something more than 60hz and a decently low gtg
>anything matching this description are expensive as fuck $600+ monitors that seem to have a ton of problems
Should I just say fuck it and buy a U2515H?
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>>57457181
Well it's not over 60Hz.
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>>57457181
I say wait for OLED

OLED revolutionises display tech. No longer will we have to compromise when it comes to quality
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4K HDR monitors when?
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>>57457788
Dell UP3017Q
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http://www.frys.com/product/7851609?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
or
http://www.frys.com/product/8714081?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

or something else similarly priced?
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>>57439792

I use EIZO EV3237 with an R9 380X.
Would use again.
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Still using 2 EIZO models, one of which is the FG2421 I am still pretty happy that I kept returning/ordering them until I finally got a panel without flaws. Dont think I will ever be able to go back to TN/IPS for my main screen. I am too much of a sucker for proper blacks and high contrast ratios.
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I want to get a new monitor for both photo/video editing and gaymen, is it best to just grab a 16:10 1440p IPS monitor with 100% sRGB and just disregard high refresh rates for now until that technology becomes more affordable? I've been using some mediocre 21.5 inch 1080p 60hz monitor for years now, I think I can survive for a bit longer without 144hz.
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>>57458138
144hz is a meme unless you play heavy fps

I got a 4k samsung that does 60hz for 500$ and it's amazing both for production and gaming, so much screen estate
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>>57458138
16:10 is a meme
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So i just got a pg348q and i think i may be suffering buyers remorse. The monitor is amazing but considering how much you pay for it, there is noticeable backlight bleed and scanlines at 100hz. I'm honestly thinking about taking it back and just getting a 27" ips 1440p monitor but i also hear these suffer from the same quality control issues.
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>>57458180
Why? More screen real estate which you need for photography since RAW files are 3:2, if I could get a 3:2 monitor I would
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>>57458158
I do play Overwatch and CSGO but I feel like I should just prioritize non-gaymen stuff for now since it's going to be impossible to find a monitor that has both 100 sRGB/IPS and is 144hz unless I want to put myself in debt for the rest of my life
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Is there any difference in how games look on a 4k screen downscaled to 1080p compared to a 1080p native screen?
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Keen on upgrading to a decent budget 4K monitor for around $300~$350 US, just waiting for Black Friday or Christmas to see if I can snatch a close enough deal.
Don't know if it will be worth it since HDR is going to be the new craze. It looks really nice on some of the TVs I saw on display. Don't expect an affordable HDR model anytime soon though.

viewing distance: 0.5~0.7m
viewing angle: ~30 degrees when laying back to watch,
desired framerate: 60Hz adequate
backlightbleed: not a big deal since I always use monitor in well lit background
GtG response time: anything under 5ms adequate, don't play twitch shooters.

I've narrowed it down to two attractive budget choices each with their cons and pros for their price.

>ASUS MG24UQ
pro
>cheapest locally accessible IPS 4K monitor I've seen
con
>23.6"

>AOC U2879VF/75
pro
>Cheapest locally accessible 28" 4K
>10bit color depth (probably not much content out there to utilize it anyway)
con
>TN

Despite being better bang for buck, rather skip 2K because 1080 scales well with 4K should I need to revert to this resolution. Leaning more towards the AOC since it is pretty cheap with a more suitable size.
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Anyone used a ZOWIE RL2460? I'm looking to replace my ancient 23" Aluminum Cinema Display with something I can plug my consoles into if I'm feeling it, and the price is super solid on the 24" model. It says 1ms input lag, which seems to translate to 10ms on that displaylag website. Any advice is appreciated!
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>>57459332
Just realized it's a TN panel, are they that bad? I don't think I've ever actually used one.
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>>57440249
The 480 is the right card for you then.

It has all the modern decoders and full support for acceleration.

If you're willing to spend a premium though I suppose you could go for low end FirePro or Quadro cards.
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>>57439882
5ms
60hz
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>>57460450
It's not for gaymen like you friendo.
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>>57459500

You've used one.
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>>57457178
G-SYNC is garbage, I say this as someone that owns a G-SYNC monitor.

It's just a gimmick to reduce stuttering that occurs when your fps isn't a multiple of your refresh rate.

I'd take the stuttering with less input lag over that shit any day.
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>>57458390
PG279Q is 100% sRGB, 144Hz 1440p IPS.

I don't use sRGB because I don't like limiting colors, and I don't do professional work anyway.
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>tfw 1600p, the true master race, is deader than disco
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any other 5k users here?
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>>57463926
>that backlight

Would kms within 10 minutes of using the thing.
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>>57452898
It's as high ppi as a 27" 1440p display or a 24" 1080p if I remember right?
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>>57463995
Or you could turn it off using the remote it comes with
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>>57457161
Why don't you want cheap Korean garbage? The only garbage is the stands, all the panels come from the same cheap Korean factory anyways, doesn't matter what brand
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>>57464008

Why even fucking have it?
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>>57457178
Depends on what the premium is
I just got a new monitor, g sync is noticable but that's it
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>>57464026
It looks a lot nicer in person than it does in pictures, I find it relaxing.
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>>57464026
You know they generally have varying levels of brightness. However it only shows up well in pictures at the higher brightness settings.
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>>57464060
>>57464040

I realize that, but the very idea is retarded. It lights up nothing useful, distracts from the actual screens and is the single least pleasant color of lighting available, but hey, if you're looking to impress fifteen year olds, this is the shit. Basically baby gaymer "the-day-of-thousand-LEDs" rig tier.
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>>57464127
I can change it to different colours too and I don't find it distracting, just comforting. But I don't blame you for hating it, it isn't for everyone
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>>57439792
Just got a 27" 1080p monitor to go with my 24"
Would like to upgrade to a 4k at some point so I can work with 4k footage.
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>>57464333
>27" 1080p

How's that early 2000's tier pixel pitch treating you?
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>>57464478
perfectly fine.
Just felt like getting a second screen and it was cheap.
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What about Dell S2716DG? 144Hz, G-Sync, awesome looks but TN. How are modern TN monitors doing? I'm sick of IPS glow.
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>>57464127
It provides a soft indirect light source of any color I want.

Werks for me.
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>>57464782

TN is fucking shit. Give me IPS glow over garbage viewing angles and colors any day, especially on any panel over 24".
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>>57464782
I like my ROG swift and it's basically the same thing, it's not bad at all, the colors aren't vibrant but they're fairly accurate and I expected way worse viewing angles, it wasn't even a problem in my case
And the quick response time and high hz make it feel even better than it looks
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>>57464837
Do you view your screen across the room because you randomly decided to slide your chair to the other side of the room due to autism?
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Did i do good?

Colors are mind blowing compared to my last monitor. Running a 1070 and getting between 75 and 90 frames on overwatch maxed, but the g sync makes everything so damn smooth.
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>>57465700
>tn panel
>ayycer
no
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>>57466701
It's IPS, the 4ms response time is your giveaway, a TN would have 1-2ms.
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>>57466710
jsyk those numbers are absolutely meaningless and basically made up any way
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>>57467023
>Using a gamecube as a stand
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What is currently the best option for a 1200p or 1600p monitor? I don't want to abandon 16:10 just yet.
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>doesn't have a GPU
>wants a monitor

Wtf man? How does that work? Or you use "GPU" for discrete graphics card?
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>>57447468
>1999+17 the year of our lord
>Buying an acer predator
>paying $1,000 for an Acer monitor
>buying an Acer monitor ever
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>>57452020
Buddy of mine had the 25 inch one. I sold him my 34 inch ultrasharp 3440x1440.

2560x1080 looks like shit above 25 inch
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>>57464782
I was going to buy that monitor until I found out it was TN. You paid $550 United States American green cuck bucks for a TN panel. You're a moron for paying a premium for G-sync.

I bought the Asus MG279Q
2560x1440
IPS
4ms
144hz

same price
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>>57467568
TN pixels have less lag than IPS. The color sucks, the viewing angle sucks, but if you need to see the other guy a few milliseconds before he sees you, get TN or VA.
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>>57466989
Basically this. Back in around 1999, 1ms vs 6ms was large because the mice and keyboards had input lag as well which multiplied with the response times.

Now-a-days, 4 ms RT with effectively 0ms mouse and keyboard is instant input.

You will only see/feel a difference around 25+
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>>57467577
>Basically this. Back in around 1999, 1ms vs 6ms was large because the mice and keyboards had input lag as well which multiplied with the response times.
1. that's not how latency works
2. latency is not the same thing as respons etime
3. No display has a 6ms response time anyway. The real response time is always going to be much higher, they just quote bullshit measurements so they can put a better number in the article listing
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>>57467575
>Thinking the human eye + brain can process 3 ms

Response time is the input response from your input devices i.e mouse and keyboard. Not how fast stuff shows up. Proved you're actually retarded
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>>57467593
>Thinking display lag has no effect on response time

The sooner you see something the sooner you can react to it.
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How much are 4k screens with IPS panels these days? As someone who works in the illustration field color reproduction matters quite a bit. I don't think a TN panel would work well.

(Currently have one of the first Overlord 1440p monitors, i don't think my blacks are as black as they could be.)
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>>57468127
Veries _very_ widely based on the rest of the specifications

You need to specify more than just 4K and IPS, m8
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Every time i'm asking about some monitor, someone replies to me that 60hz monitor is not acceptable. I don't understand if that's really so bad. Can someone give me an answer without trolling?
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Just got a LG 27UD68P on sale, anyone have any experience with this monitor? I've got 3 months to play with it and get a full refund, but looking for actual feedback about it.
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>>57468127
>overlord
Man, what happened to them?
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>>57468537
they're /v/ children who think 144 Hz monitors will help boost their MOBA skills

it's that simple
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>>57466701
Like the other guy said, its ips.

Whats wrong with acer? I just wanted 1440p 144hz and g sync, and this was the best price.
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>>57466701
>>57469809
And i wanted ips obviously
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>>57452898
But I don't want a high ppi display, I want more screen space.
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I'm looking to buy a 27" 4K IPS 10-bit monitor with USB Type-C but can't seem to find a good one in all black, besides the expensive LG UltraFine 5K.
Think i'm gonna wait a while for more brands to start making monitors with USB Type-C.
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Is it worth spending 400€ on a monitor that features:
>144Hz
>1ms response time
>freesync
>23.5" 1080p
>125% sRGB
>VA panel
>178° viewing angles
>curved panel
>professional, "bland" design, no gaming bullshit

Because I'm thinking of getting one, but I'm not sure if I can justify the high price.
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>TFW I want a 1440p 27" monitor but don't want to spend more than $150.

>Want 4K but didn't bother building a capable PC even though I can afford it

>Won't do anything on computer to actually appreciate 4K or 1440p anyway, other than maybe watch a tiny amount of 4K content

>Will probably go back to laying in bed with my 10 inch tablet with a sub-720p screen
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Is 1440p at 23.8 inch too high DPI to use on windows ? There's a BENQ like that for 250 euros, it also has speakers and is one of the cheapest monitors with this kind of specs
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>>57471110
>23.5" 1080p
>VA panel
>400€

Nah, fuck that noise.
Also curved 23.5" is retarded, there's really no call for that until at least 30".

>>57471212

1440p at 24" is fine. It's not until 4k that the issues start.
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>>57471249
>>>23.5" 1080p
>>VA panel
>>400
I have two monitors though, I only have space for a 23.5" display, and I don't want it any bigger.

I also have an RX 480, so I CAN get high FPS in most games, but only at 1080p.
Thus 23.5" 1080p is exactly what I want.

I also think that a VA panel is better than a TN panel, because of better colors. What's bad about it?

Also, curved is just a gimmick, it is not what I am looking for, but it's a bonus I guess.
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>>57461028
>stuttering
>not tearing

Off yourself
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>>57464782
It's a good monitor if you can find it below $500. Don't fall for the IPS meme, you'll pay a lot more just to be able to act like a elitist cunt on a technology board
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>>57471263

I'm not saying 1080p/24" is bad, I'm saying the price is too high for a VA panel that size.
And while VA is better than TN, they will still look vomit-y next to a decent IPS.
Really, the only reason not to get a 1080p IPS nowadays is when you're super anal about response time or live in a cave and can't stand any amount of glow.
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>>57471249
>1440p at 24" is fine.
I have a 25" 1440p and I'd say 24" would be just about the limit.

25" is already fairly sharp and text is getting close to being a little too small if you don't sit a little close, 24" would just make it worse.
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>>57471310
>Really, the only reason not to get a 1080p IPS nowadays is when you're super anal about response time
I already have an 1080p IPS monitor.
And playing games on it kind of sucks.
It's an U2312HM.
The reason I don't like playing games on my IPS display is that as soon as something moves, it becomes unreadable because of ghosting or response time.
When a player slowly walks past me in League of Legends, and I move at the same time, I can't even read their player names anymore, no matter how long I stare at them. And that's not even an FPS, which I also play.
Quickly turning in FPS games also makes me unable to see any detail at all, only a general idea of what's going on, I don't like it.
I have overclocked my 60Hz IPS to 75Hz and the difference is very noticable, enough to make me want to get a proper 144Hz monitor. Since I have an RX 480, I'd also like freesync. And since I have bad experience with response time, I'd like a quick one, to stop the blurring of movement. Since I come from IPS, I also don't want TN trash, and VA sounds like a good compromise between colors and response time.

I plan to use my IPS monitor as secondary display for Browser and similar then, and use the new one for games.
Can you recommend me a cheaper one that still fullfills the above?
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>>57463926
You are dead set the most retarded battlestation poster I have come across on this website
>Full damage control in every /bst/ thread you make
>Too ignorant to take criticism from others
>trying to justify the fact that you spent $1K on that ugly ass keyboard
>desk flex
>Absolute shit gamer tier LED tape
Every thread man, stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself
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>>57471311
>>57471212
You can scale it up you know.
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>>57471493
What's the point then?

I'm buying 1440p for extra desktop real estate, not so I can have a slightly sharper 1080p image.
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>>57471506
Oh you're one of those special tards. Well buy w/e shit is getting hyped up on reddit then.
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>>57471506

I think he was trying to tell you you can get a 27".
It's kinda the sweet spot for 1440p. Large enough, but still sharper than 24" 1080p.
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>>57471603
No he's talking about GUI scaling to makes things readable at 1440p on a 24" screen, which defeats the point of getting 1440p in my opinion.
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>>57471601
I'm someone who uses my desktop for actual multitasking and want more space to do this as opposed to a faggot gaymer who only has a game on the screen?

If you don't see the value in having more desktop resolution I'm going to assume you're a highschooler who has nothing better to do with a computer than to play games.
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>>57471638
Listen kid. Since PCs have been a thing if you wanted more space you get a bigger screen or more screens.

I don't know where this dumb fucking trend of getting tiny monitors with large resolutions started but it's pure cancer. I assume this is the logic that forms when you're a tablet baby.
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>>57471683
>you get a bigger screen

Well that's why I fucking said 24" 1440p is too small and 25" is about the limit. 27" is even better.
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>>57471692
The original post was talking about a 24" scrren
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>>57471711
Yes I know, and MY original post was telling him that's too small
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>>57471713
And I said you can just scale it....
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>>57471720
and as I said, scaling makes it no longer 1440p desktop resolution, if you GUI scale you are left with a 1080p effective desktop resolution just that it is sharper than an actual 1080p panel because your panel is 1440p

Again, 24" is too small for 1440p for anything besides gaming, in gaming it doesn't matter because the game can be rendered at the full res, but when you GUI scale for the desktop you make everything the equivalent of 1080p.
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>>57471746
I don't even know how to reply. Talking about two things apparently.
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>>57471759
No, you just dont understand how GUI scaling works in windows apparently.
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>>57471759
It's like the retards buying 27" 4k screen and then using GUI scaling at 150% to make the desktop resolution 1440p.

Why buy a 4k panel if you're only using 1440p for the desktop anyway?

That's the same thing you'd be doing with a 24" 1440p panel, just 1440p to 1080p instead of 4k to 1440p.
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>>57471759

No, he's right. If you have a 24" 1440p screen and scale the GUI up to compensate for the higher resolution, you might as well have gotten a 1080p because you'll have the same amount of real estate, just sharper.
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>>57471779
>Why buy a 4k panel if you're only using 1440p for the desktop anyway?
Text clarity, increased quality
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>>57471813
Yeah, I understand that for the 27" 4k example, at 27" you will notice the increased pixel density giving you a nicely sharper image, but at 24" you're approaching diminishing returns for desktop use, it's simply too small and the resolution change isn't as drastic.
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>>57471766
Well for one I can tell you it doesn't go be specific resolutions.
>>57471779
>>57471792
Seriously where did you guys get that Win10 scales by resolutions? It's percentage.
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>>57471827
Depends on your viewing distance and eyesight

I know people who use 24" 4K without scaling
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>>57471846
....it's even SET percentages, 100-125-150-175-200.

Which means you can work out what any resolution is based on the percent of scaling.


Isn't math fun?
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>>57471779

It's kind of a necessity with 4k tho. I can understand wanting to game at 4k without having to use a magnifying glass for anything other than games. Yeah, yeah, 4k isn't really viable for gaming yet, but some people are obviously going to want to.
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>>57471779
>muh retina
t. applefags
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>>57471889
Not really, 40-45" 4k monitors are hitting the market, phillips has one or two models, Dell has a model, etc.

at 40" 4k has the same pixel density as 1440p 27" or 20" 1080p.

So at 40" you can have no GUI scaling, native res, 2x2 1080p windows open all on one monitor without bezels.


Anything under 35" though you'll probably be doing some GUI scaling.
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>>57471889
4k for games is pointless, natural images are harder to tell the difference with than with desktop elements such as text
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>>57471846
>being this dense

he obviously means that the desktop space you get is equivalent to that resolution
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I'm about to buy a new monitor, thinking about 25" 144hz. Any recommendations?
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I have a T220 from ages ago. It's starting to feel a little claustrophobic. I don't have money for an expensive calibrated IPS thingie. And I'm pretty worried about black levels, supposedly IPS has problems there. Supposedly this is (still) one of the better TN panels around so I'm worried going to another TN panel would be a downgrade in a sense. I'm also worried about 1680x1050 -> 1920x1080 being only a minor improvement in desktop space.

2560x1080 seems like it'd be similar to the benefit of dual monitor for desk space, but not be too many extra pixels to drive for my GPU in le gaymes. 1.8mp -> 2.8mp vs 3.7mp @ 1440

also would be nice for movies I guess, and games generally support wider screens better than 16:10

but the pricing of ultrawide is still pretty steep and I wonder if the cheap ones are worth it at all
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>>57471873
I'm not aware what the native resolution of win10 is. I know WIn10 doesn't use ranges like the old Windows OSes. It's set percentages.

How you figure out the resolution from that is beyond me.
>>57471936
Which isn't true. Applications you could say that.
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>>57472041
>icons are bigger
>text is bigger
>taskbar is bigger
>applications are bigger
>usable deskspace is not proportionally smaller

how is it not true? are you literally retarded?
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>>57472062
Not all applications need to be scaled.
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>>57472082
if you scale the desktop applications get scaled, it's not something you set per program, it's a global setting
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>>57472096
It's not permanent...
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>>57472111
and? I think you'r iq is permanently below 80
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>you will live to see affordable 4K, 144hz monitors with accurate colors

but when?
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>>57472172
No I'm just not a tablet baby like you apparently..
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>>57439792
depends on what you need, but a 27" 1440p IPS from Dell is a safe choice
watch out for high-DPI scam though, there are lots of <35" UHD monitors that have you use scaling so they are no different from a 1080p or 1440p monitor in terms of what you actually get.
Basically don't waste your money on 1440p <25" or UHD at <35". The ultrawide monitors are quite nice though, although I havent tried one over an extended period of time. Curved ones may not be so good for accurate work
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>>57472202
>you will never live to see laser scanning displays
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>>57472202
>but when?

Obviously right after you get tired of waiting and buy a 1440p one.
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>>57461040
4ms response time
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>>57472492
like you notice
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>>57472202
5000€ at the moment, give it a few years
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Stuck deciding between Asus PG278Q (144hz,TN,GSYNC) and Asus MG279Q (144hz, IPS, FREESYNC)

Gonna be using it with a GTX 1070 so the freesync from the MG279Q won't be used.
So basically I'm deciding if Gsync really does make enough of a difference to pick it over a ips 144hz monitor.
>>
Is that LG 5K screen compatible with desktop GPUs? It says it's Thunderbolt 3, but I don't understand whether that means it's limited to 30hz on Displayport.
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>>57472914

Why not the PG279Q? It's has Gsync and IPS, best of both worlds.
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>>57472914
why don't you ask >>>/v/ about their expert opinion on how important G-Sync is for securing those 360 noscopes?
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>>57472950
Don't have enough money for it. THe two monitors I mentioned are the max I can go.
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>>57473072

Then wait and save a little more cash
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>>57472914
sell the 1070 for a 480
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>>57473096
>downgrading
>>
Why do monitors still come with a vga cable?

Just add a dvi cable in there you fuckers
>>
I want to get into art again too, I also have to write stuff regularly for school projects and I also use my pc for watching movies.
I really value workspace but hate bezels so I don't really want to do a dual monitor setup, though the color problems on a flat ultrawide and the problems with perspective with curved ultrawides seems like a problem to me, but I'm not sure since no local shops display a 34 inch ultrawide.
Any tips on what I should get?
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>>57473341
oh also I want to study more in art (anatomy and stuff like that), so being able to have two things open on the screen at the same time is important to me.
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>>57473096

Are you brain damaged?
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>>57439960
I think there's a lot of software without good 4k support for a while. 1440p or the 16:10 equivalent would be good for art
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>>57453598
One word response
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>>57451630
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U3011-30-Monitor/dp/B004KKGF1O/ref=sr_1_13?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1478889935&sr=1-13&keywords=16%3A10+monitor&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6570750011

There are a few at 2560x1600
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>>57473451
16:10 equivalent is the old 30" monitors á 2560x1600
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is this the best all purpose monitor under 180usd?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FGCJAHU/
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Best 2k, 144hz monitor?
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>>57476272
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>>57476548
>touche
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>>57475908
>best all purpose monitor
>23" 1080p @ 60hz

I guess for office use it might not be utter shit.
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>>57470272
Why the fuck do you want type c? Not enough power for a monitor and the data protocol is probably just gotta be DisplayPort anyways, the only point is for laptop charging
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>>57439792
I went with P2417H for general usage, but they say if it's for drawing and digital art, then go with the Ultrasharp series.
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>not having a low response monitor for games

do you guys just jerk off and program all day lmoa
>>
im spoiled by my tablet
i now require an OLED monitor. what is the entry level goodness? something 24" and i dont care what else
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>>57477078
>Why the fuck do you want type c?

You can charge the laptop, use the USB ports on the monitor and have a display port all in one cable, instead of three cables.
Reduces clutter and makes it easy to plug in when you get home.
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>>57472914
Th pg278q has higher color bit depth than most TN panels, the colors are fine and the viewing angles are imo not bad at all, I was expecting way worse
The colors aren't vibrant but they're fairly accurate
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>>57476272
There's only like 3 or 4 bro
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>>57477262
>the laptop
We all know what you're talking about no point in hiding it you shit
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>>57477262
USB c on monitors has a low market and it'll continue to be low as long as desktop reign king and people keep putting meme displays on laptops
>27" 4K
you should be glad you can't find one you like
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>>57452020
>27 inch 1366x768
eww that must be vomit-inducing.
>>
I am using a BENQ G2400WGL

Fuck yeah best screen ever.
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>>57473019
It's nice to be intensively aiming and trailing without a random jitter getting in the way
I wouldn't say it really helps your gaymen, but it's one less monitor problem to worry about
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>>57451630
I'm about to change over from mine, not sure why you prefer this ratio, moving to two 21: 9 monitors.
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>>57455661
lmao
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I just joined the ultra wide master race. Upgraded from 1080p 60hz to 3440x1440 100hz. 1080p looks so boxy and square to me now. It's so weird looking.

Took this screenshot with DOOM's photo mode beta.
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>>57469175
depends on who you ask, the CEO/owner might have gotten really sick and his wife shut it down.

Or it was going under so he quit as fast as possible
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catleap is nice monitor
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>>57477533
>27" 4K
>perpetuating the meme that this is a bad thing
kys poorfag
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>>57464782
Gentlemen, please advise. I bought this monitor and I don't want to regret it (bought it for $450).

Can I enjoy it at 144hz gsync with a 1060? I already have one and don't feel like upgrading, but I will if I actually need to.
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>>57476642
What would you recommend kind anon
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>>57478184
It's the same as your 13" 1080p screen, just get that instead
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>>57478222
bump lads
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What is the current state of NEC? Are they even competitive in the NA market for high and middle end panels?
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thoughts about this ultrawide /g/?

- stronk curve
- 48-100hz freesync
- VA panel
- no gayming design

https://geizhals.eu/samsung-c34f791wqu-lc34f791wqux-en-a1502619.html

https://geizhals.eu/samsung-c34f791wqu-lc34f791wqux-en-a1502619.html
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>>57478637
i dont see any OLED panels....
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>>57478691
they're behind the curve like every other Jap company
never seen a spectra view in person

own a lower end IPS 16:10 1920x1200 from NEC
Not worth its MSRP (not that it's how much I paid)

I own an Ultrasharp with close to the same specs and the panel quality is much better and cheaper
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>>57440269
+1 best tech purchase of the last few years for me
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>>57478732
im just waiting to upgrade my 2490WUXI2 with an oled. thats all. i LOVE the picture from oled
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>>57478756
how long till it's market ready?
>>
Thinking of getting a Asus MG279Q. Are they solid? I just want 1440p, 27" and an IPS panel, the refresh rate is a bonus.
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>>57478222

Of course you can, but i doubt the 1060 can play anything AAA-new above 60 fps at 1440p. Source/MOBA games will do, though.
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>>57477476
Color vibrancy has nothing to do with TN FYI, most TN panels have shitty factory calibration. You can make more saturated than IPS due to its better contrast. I don't like TN because of the gamma shift anyway, but I hate how people shit on it for no reason.
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>>57467023
Where is the respect ? Using that poor thing as a stand.
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>>57478671

They have to use a buzzword to hide how shit the panel is. Use your brain.
>>
IPS IS A MEME
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>>57480067
Why
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Should I even bother getting a new tv? Should I just get a nice 4k monitor instead? I mean, I only watch streaming stuff like netflix and youtube.
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>>57480089
Color accuracy doesn't actually do anything. Unless you need it due to being an artist or something.

A lot of TN panels have decent color accuracy outside of pure whites or something.

You pay a huge amount for something that is basically a placebo. AMOLED screens are widely considered to be the most impressive screens by normies. And they have bad color accuracy, the colors are saturated. Muh accuracy doesn't actually matter. It is a MEME.
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>>57480147
>Color accuracy doesn't actually do anything.
It looks good. Kind of a fundamental part of a monitor.
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>>57480147
If I were to get IPS it wouldn't be for the color accuracy.
I have TN panels and when I kick back to watch movies with my viewing angle not being spot on you notice the color fading in certain parts of the display. IPS would be more consistent without having to readjust the angle of the display every time I re-position myself.
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>>57480114
Get a 1080p monitor if you only do that.
>>
If I'm an ultra-poorfag casual gaymer who only plans to use his PC for light gaming, watching anime, and shitposting, is a 23-24" 1920 x 1080 60Hz monitor fine?

I.e. something like this:
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148NNKTC/ref=psdc_1292115011_t1_B008DWITHI
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>>57480466
If gaming you may want to look into a TN panel because of the lower response times.

Though that panel doesn't seem too bad if you want an IPS panel for the anime.
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>>57480466
it's ok.
i prefer va panels from benq because of that black levels, great colour and no ips glow.
cheap ips still can still be shit.
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>>57480499
Are there any particular brands I should avoid when considering a monitor, whether it has a TN panel or an IPS panel?
For instance, I'm using this website as a reference (http://www.productchart.com/monitors/), and several of the TN panel monitors in my price-range are made by ViewSoft. Can't say I've ever heard of them so I'm a bit wary of considering them.
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>>57480466
>not 4k
pleb
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>>57480599
Forgive me anon, I am but a poor college student whose loans are soon to come a-callin' and whose main computer is a toaster-tier laptop that is on the verge of death.
Also I'm used to using a shitty stock laptop monitor so I think anything is an upgrade at this point.
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>>57447468
>"hey let's buy a 40" 4k monitor"
>literally see the block pixels, defeating the purpose of owning one
>not buying a 24" 4k monitor to not see the pixels
Why have you abandoned us God?
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>>57480718
You can barely see the pixels at 1080p 24"
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>>57480718
You're always going to be able to see the pixels until resolutions get like 10 times larger than they are now. Picking a pixel density based on being able to see pixels is fucking stupid.
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>>57479886
whats shit about the panel?
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>>57480718
Doubled.
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>>57480718
>110 dpi
>block pixels

what did he mean by this?
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>>57483903
DPI is a meaningless red herring
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>>57483918
>red herring
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>>57478671
>freesync
fake NVIDIA G-SYNC for poorfags?
no, thanks
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>>57452020
Go for 34" 3440x1440
I got a LG one and I love it.
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>>57484966
>paying more for less
>nvidiots
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What's the best 27" 1440p IPS 60Hz panel these days? I need something to look for as a secondary monitor when black friday sales hit this year. Probably a Dell something?
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>>57485689
yeah U2715H or U2717D
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Would an Asus VG278HV be any good for sim racing? Also would a GTX1060/1070 match its 144Hz output, bar the most resource-intensive games?

(I'm aware that 27" and 1080p on TN don't look glorious but I'll be sitting slightly far away from it so I guess I'll be okay with it. Plus I'm planning on playing around with Lightboost.)
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>>57485733
Just snagged a U2715H for cheap from Amazon Warehouse deals. Says the box is damaged. Hoping that my AW track record for receiving a perfect item with a slightly damaged box holds.

Thanks for the suggestion.
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