AMD FX Appreciation Thread

>>57437403
As long as you don't play the latest video games, AMD is fine.
In fact, it's an ideal choice for the budget conscious professional developer because it gets you ECC RAM at a low price point.

>>57437403
Yes. Fx 8350 is still outperforming i5 6400 despite a 3 year age gap and faster ram.

>>57437403
i burn my hand on my fx octomonster weekly, love it

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>>57437422
>don't play the games that work best with AMD processors if you buy AMD processors

OK GUY WE BELIEVE YOU

>>57437436
>being such a loser that a difference of 50 fps is a big deal
top geg

>>57437422
I played dark souls 3 with a stock clocked 6320 (or whatever the six core one is) and it ran incredibly well

People overestimate the use of CPUs in most games, GPU is the main issue most of the time

>>57437468
>>57437436
Well even better then.
I don't play modern games and the FX-8350 suits me well.
I developer software, compile a lot of code, run large SQL queries, which is all integer-heavy and multi-threaded.

>>57437436
3.4ghz < 75watts -> 100%
4.7ghz > dying star -> 99.9%

oh amd you are so in favour of the lols

>>57437475
*develop even
It's 7:40 AM here.

>>57437477
>completely ignoring how the fx6300 is outperforming the older i5s and newer i3s
Good goy

>>57437422
That's the main thing the intel fanboys don't understand, 990FX is a full featured enthusiast chipset, it's better to have an 8350 on a 990FX with ECC ram for your server/video editing rig, than a faster i7 on an H170 chipset.

Not fx but I still using my X4 965.
Im surpised it has survive since 2009 especially those hot 40c summer days on the stock fan.

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>not having your mom buy you the latest Intel K CPU

>>57437512
>completely ignoring the obvious disadvantaged of the personal desk furnace

also who buys i5 and cares about performance

>>57437549
>also who buys i5 and cares about performance
Then what reason to buy an i5 over an i3 or Pentium?

>>57437566
best one can afford

>>57437549
>i5 is not a mid range CPU made to deliver good performance without hyperthreading
Intel users, dude.

>>57437620
meh, if kids in highscool can save up for a clapped out toyota neets can save their lunchables money and buy the best gear if they cared and wanted to

has less cache, lower platforms have less memory bandwidth... i stand by my argument because it's nothing revolutionary

>>57437648
i5 6400 is kind of a beast, 2.7GHz and its on par with an FX 8150.

>>57437422
>As long as you don't play the latest video games, AMD is fine.

Anon, I play the latest video games on amd and it's still fine.

>>57437675
This, an old HD7970, or even an HD7870 with an 8350 destroys consoles.

>>57437403
I think 32nm CPUs in general held up well, look at laptops, a T420 sandy bridge is almost impossible to beat.

>>57437534
>asking your mom to buy you a hardware level botnet.

>>57438588
>not trusting gamespot forum recommendations
dude do u even pro game bro lmao @ ur life

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muh spooky

>couple of years ago
>friend wants to build a PC
>tell him to get a intel
>"but why anon? amd has much better price/performance ratio"
>tell him about my experiences with burning Athlons.
>"nah anon, the new FX series is ok."
>the thing is that AMD put's so much effort into cores, not efficiency.
>instead of getting that FX 6300 get an i5 instead.
>games don't benefit from that many cores

>he got an FX 6300
>around a few months later I start browsing /g/
>they rescue me from the gaymer world
>I learn the art of GNU/Linux
>I merge with /g/
>around a year later.
>looking for parts to replace my old E8400 and HD 6670
>I remember my friend.
>I bought an FX 6300 and a R9 270X
>not a single regret
>not a single complaint
>sometimes when people bring up the fact that I wanted my friend to buy an intel instead, I feel like I want to die.
>recently another friend wanted a CPU upgrade
>got him a FX 6100
>he loves it
>mother wants a computer.
>old HD 6670, ITX board and a FX 4300
>she loves it.
Feels good to be part of the Glorious FX series.

>>57438756
Why would you buy her an fx4300 instead of a Pentium? That's just overlook overkill.

Why would you buy your friend an fx6100? Fx4300 is probably faster.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>57437422
>implying
I'm using a Athlon 860k and a rx 460, playing the newest shit @ 1080p, 60fps, high to ultra effects

>>57438756
>ITX board
>FX 4300
choose one
AM3+ ITX boards are non-existant

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>>57437403
A series deserves love too

boards are expensive as fuck tho

8350 and 390x is a pretty good combo.

I mean it sucks for GTAV but then in the Vulkan renderer for Doom it performs superbly.

Most games favour GPU over CPU and the only emulator that doesn't really take advantage of its capabilities is PCSX2. (Which is a mess of an emulator anyway)

Considering you can pick them up used for like £50. You can't grumble at all.

Try arma with amd. Fucking teamred pleb

>>57440911
>arma
That's a non-free video game. Irrelevant.

>>57440821
>I mean it sucks for GTAV
Lower a few CPU heavy setting a bit and you get 70fps most of the time.

>>57440989
Oh dam. Gas i goofd then

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>>57440821
got a 960 for it, maxing out bf1 no probs

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>>57437403
The fx series has aged incredibly fucking well. I had a 6300 until 4 months ago when i switched to 6600k memelake because i'm too autistic about dwarf fortress.
For gaming, the octopussy core 8300 is proably the best bang for buck.
Now AMD, make Zen have moderately sensible single core perf and i'll instantly buy two. One for upgrading and one for having tea parties with and cuddling.

>still outperformed by a dual core pentium that's a third of the price

>>57441785
>outperformed
By what metric?

call me when zen is out

>tfw still rocking a FX6300

>>57442025
FX6300 is a really underrated CPU, good for the money, 95w tdp, high clocks.

I bought my fx-8350 in 2011 for $190 on sale, I am patiently awaiting Zen

Sitting here with my FX-8350 and Crosshair V Formula Z

>>57437403
Do we have any news about Zen at all?

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>tfw bought an a10 unlocked apu
>tfw bought into the dual graphics meme

If I went for an 8350 for a little bit more I would be set until Zen.

FUCK

>>57442275
at least you can get a Zen setup and have a GPU-less machine for a home server or something

>>57442305
This, my 990FX board would make a beast server, but it's gotta have a GPU and even a crappy one is like 30 watts more head.

My 3270E handles any game I ask of it. Running at 4.6GHz on air. Still no idea why people say you can't play the latest games. The latest games are finally getting optimised. DOOM for example, I'm hitting 100+ FPS with a 970 at 1440p > OMG muh games.

>>57440712
>a10
>expensive boards

The most expensive would not be over $100. A Gigabyte mATX board I bought for a build was $50, and it supported overclocking for K-class APUs, though it didn't support Richland out of the box (had to go back to the shop to reflash the BIOS for me, which thankfully was free).

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>>57442314
a low power gpu in idle clocks? don't think so

>>57442431
yeah once games get proper 8 core support like BF1 and Doom, FX shows its true power

pssh, nothing perssonnell kid *unsheaths cores*

>>57437403
>Costs far less than a new Intel CPU and comes pretty close in performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj7wnRA1yDo

>>57437423
fucking lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSkpyuLgsoI
>gets beaten by a fucking i3
AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

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>>57442898
>cherry picking single threaded games

>>57442918
>arma
>single threaded

>>57437403
>990FX
>inexpensive
this meme has to die, they're expensive.

>>57442932
compare to a game that actually takes advantage of a more powerful cpu like GTA V
the FX gets absolutely btfo by even the 2500k

>>57442910
An i3 that cost 20% more.

>>57443006
meanwhile the I3 runs much cooler and draws no where near as much power

you cant defend the fx, its just fucking terrible

>>57443037
The fact that you feel the need to compare the fx6300 to a skylake i3 instead of the Ivy bridge i3 it was originally competing against is proof enough of how great it's aged and how it's better than an i3 even now since its also unlocked.

>>57442898
Video games are irrelevant.

>>57443197
I was comparing the fx 8370, cunt

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>>57437403
>Costs far less than a new Intel CPU and comes pretty close in performance
Yeah not really. Multithreaded performance, sure. The FX series are the best bang for buck by miles in that case. But in single threaded performance they are waaaay behind, they use stupid amounts of power when overclocked (which is necessary to squeeze out performance), plus the platform is ancient by now so you don't get as many features as newer motherboards have.

They have their place, particularly if you're running heavily threaded applications (i.e. not most games).

>>57437475
Depends on where you draw the line of modern games. Last gen and late sixth gen games work terribly on processors which favor number of cores above clock speeds.

>>57443037
that's like 5 bucks a year you damn child

>>57443197
problem is, sandy bridge is no longer on the market. piledriver is.

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>>57443807
???

>>57442953
$200 for cpu and motherboard isn't expensive.

And if you invest another $60 in a cooler, you can run it at 4.5GHz

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>>57437403
ive had mine since they launched ran stock for a while until games and other shit started needing more power

have mine running slightly over 4.5ghz with a max vcore of 1.344 i can run faster but its not worth the house fire temps because of the higher voltage requirement

>150
>i5 3470 is like 100
No point.

>>57437403
FX were pretty shitty desu.
>not much improvement from Phenom II X4 and X6

Waiting for Zen now, hope they can save us all.

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>>57444523
>not getting 150$ processor and running damn near as fast as a far more expensive cpu

its like you dont even belong here or something

>>57443807
>that's like 5 bucks a year you damn child

That's a subway sandwich I'll never eat
A little caesar pizza I'll never taste
1 big mac I'll never get to buy

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>>57444581
if you are so poor that your computers power draw effects your life in such a way you should probably consider re evaluating your life

>>57437403
I wish I could get an FX but by the time I need a new PC, Zen will be out.

>>57444604
No one has rich parents like you anon-desu

I'd go AMD if I could find a Micro ATX board that didn't look terrible.

>>57444647
this argument is retarded, if i had rich parents like you say id have gotten some super mega i7 1000$ monstrosity cpu.

im just reasonable with money while not being rich or poor, hence overclocked fx chip

>>57444151
Thats way too fucking much for a 2500k

>buy intel cpu
>overclock
>instant housefires

what the fuck intel

>>57444675
I'd rather get good performance out of a cpu and have the longevity that the 2500k does.

The fx cpus are bad since the architecture is so old and wasn't even good when it came out.

>>57444719
>sandy vagina botnet chip

nothx

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>>57444743
>amd poorfag making up excuses.
Exactly what I'd expect

>>57437422
>As long as you don't play any games at all, AMD is fine.
fxd

>>57444768
Privacy and multithreaded performance is more important than video games

>>57437403
>not running cheap 2670 xeons.

>>57444570
Lol

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>>57444570
>not getting 150$ processor and running damn near as fast as a far more expensive cpu

its like you dont even belong here or something

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>>57445209
>mfw I meant $50

>>57445209
X58 was a great platform but you have no usb 3.0 and the cpus have like a 130w TDP anyway.

>>57438756
Based Vishera bump.

>>57444472
is that stock cooler ?

I got the h100i gt for my lil bro's gaming rig and I have yet to go overclock it , I plan on reaching 5.2

>>57444557
This. I've had a Phenom II for five years and the FX hasn't been worth the upgrade (I care about single-thread performance and power/fan noise). I'll just wait until Zen and then upgrade either to it or to Intel, depending.

>>57440514
Bullshit. I had a 460 before it shit itself. at 1080p your doing medium-high at best. If it's something like fallout, your not going above medium.

>>57447907
Bullshit.

Not that anon but I've got a 460. Runs gta v and bf1 on ultra 60fps 1080p.

>>57437403
>Is the FX line becoming to new Core 2 Quad for budget builders?
Core 2 Quad was never a "budget" option. Once Deneb was released, there was no reason to buy anything LGA 775. The sole exception to that would have been finding a great deal Ebay. Phenom II had a higher OC ceiling on air, better IPC to begin with, DDR3 support, etc. It was also significantly cheaper. For that matter, FX isn't much better in terms of IPC than Phenom II. In many ways, FX was competitive with Sandy Bridge, but building a new FX system in a world with a $180 i5 6400 is questionable. There are niche applications, but generally, it'd be a mistake for most users to opt for AMD.

>>57437529
They're actually not easy to kill. CPUs in general aren't. There are S478 Prescotts still running, and those things were my generation's GTX 480.

>>57440712
No, it doesn't. AMD should have released something on par with or better than the custom chip that shipped with the PS4, but they never did. To make things interesting, I'd need to see AMD release a line of boards with integrated HBM alongside Zen-based CPUs with onboard GPUs ranging from HD78xx to HD79xx levels of performance. I think that's what they're planning to be fair, but it hasn't happened yet.

>>57443807
>sandy bridge is no longer on the market
The used market is still a market, and used Sandy/Ivy is a good purchase for the right price.

>>57438288
They really did. Part of that was how big of a performance bump that came with the later 32nm chips, and also the slow pace of performance improvement + increased heat from the generations directly following it.
I'm still using my 2500k, that I bought new shortly after release, overclocked and perfectly adequately.

>>57448124
45nm isn't doing too bad either.
I7 870 here, still performing great.

>>57448134
Lynnfield and bloomfield were great back then, breaking 4ghz on air, faster memory actual 4 core dies.

>>57448162
4.3ghz on a cpu cooler I got for 7AUD on clearance.

Of course now I've got it at 4.07ghz because I enjoy my temps not peaking in the mid 90s

>>57448240
4.07GHz still holds up today, wouldn't bottleneck my HD7750 card.

>>57448251
It's not bottlenecking my 680 either.

I doubt I'll be upgrading until there's a massive breakthrough in CPU performance or my mobo dies

>>57443702
you are beyond help.please go back to /pol/ or /v/ or wherever the fuck you came from

>>57437403
Tempted to sell of my 880K & 750 ti for FX6300 & 1050 Ti

>that glorious feeling when p67 mobo and i5 2500k

>>57448624
Lucky guy, I was gonna build a 2600k rig out of used parts but it ended up being super expensive so I bought a gigabyte 990FX.

I'm happy with my fx 6300 keeps up with almost everything i throw at it :)

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Do you think these non solid audio caps for the nice ALC1150 audio will ever become a problem? I know they don't get that much power through them to pop.

>>57437422
i max doom with an overclocked 8320 and an rx480 at 1080p. amd is absolutely fine. i will probably buy zen if i dont die from old age before its released.

Would AMD be a good choice for image and video editing? I couldn't give two shits about gaming (aside from some retro gems). I also develop on android and deal with VMs, but I guess that's more of a memory issue.

>>57449406
Yes, the 8350 can puke out 1080p video pretty fast, and the boards can have 32Gb of 1866mhz, plenty for VMs

>>57449590
after some research, I found out android emulation has serious problems with AMD processors. Fucking hell, gonna have to dish out more shekels for jewtel...

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>AMD is going to release an arch that kills intel
>trump won (MAGA)
>Apple is going to die without steve jobs
>Microsoft is going to die because of general incompetence

Things are looking bright lads

>>57449660

>Microsoft
>Dying

LOL

>>57449660
I am so proud as a Californian to vote for him even it is futile.

>>57449641
>android emulation has serious problems with AMD processors
Not true btw

>>57437403
that power usage tho. the hardware might be cheap but using it wont be.

>>57444151
i got my 2500k for 120€ almost a year ago

>>57443807
more like $20 per month if its just idling

>>57437403
>150$ for a room heater lmao
Dude you can buy a Xeon for 15$ that will outperform this turd in everything.

Well. I got to know that there are 16 core socket g34 opterons out there. For 20 bucks.

Quad socket boards are available for $400.

Basically $600 gets you 64 core amd workstation with 64 gigs of memory.

Does everyone with a fx 6300 unlock the other 2 cores? Just curious why people don't go straight for the fx 8xxx

>>57452875
Can you unlock cores?

Also might be price. In aus the 6300 is like 160 but the 8320 is 220

>>57450449
Yes but the platform for those 15 dollar xeons is very old with no usb 3,0 on it.

>>57452932
I think that just applies to Phenom

>>57437403
Shoo shoo pajeets. Trump is president now you're all deported.

>>57454578
Oh I fuckin voted for his ass in California, not like it meant anything in cuckland.

>>57448814
>Matte PCB
>Big heatsink on mosfet
>White lettering indicating where to plug shit in
Why are gigabyte boards so aesthetic? they make an old ass chipset look good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFO8LKtjak8

So it begins

>>57456248
I'm only half white and i want to shoot someone right now, holy shit.

bought a fx 6300 two years ago, constantly clocked at 4.0, only problem I have is when I push it to 4.2 my games act like they're on adrenaline. Thinking about moving up to the new 8350. As for gpu, I have a 7350, but am thinking about getting the new 490.

>>57456284
>FX6300 still kicking ass
Sweet, can't wait to get more parts and finish my 8350 rig.

i'll always regret buying thuban 3 months before FX came out.

>>57457816
Thuban held up well though, people still run Deneb cores and they get by.

>>57457816
Imagine people who bought lynnfield just before Sandy bridge came out.

>>57457836
it was dissappointing in skyrim. having shadows on high choked the fuck out of my 1090t

>>57457850
There actually was a reason to buy a Lynnfield or socket 1366 i7 for a little while until until board manufacturers fixed the data corrupting sata controllers on the P67 platform. Still good to hold off until board revisions of a chipset mature, 990FX is at a point where the boards have sweet audio and nice big mosfet heatsinks even on mid range models to handle that 9590.

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>>57445209
>Distance to TJ Max
>mfw

>>57437403
Shoo shoo poo in loos, trump is bresident you have 2 months to gather your things before you're deported.

I still use my Phenom II X4 955 from 2009

not upgrading tll Zen

>>57458348
>buying Israeli spyware CPU instead of made in America

AMD respects your freedoms, anon.

>>57445680
What do I need USB 3.0 for? The only thing I use USB sticks for is to boot into backup recovery applications. Can't use them at work and I have a home file server running a VPN server to access my files anywhere.

>>57447907
>using shit gaymes like fallout to try to win an argument

>>57450441
>buring petrol for power
pajeet pls

dunno where to put this new Zen rumours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0es4I-tbvM

>>57461977
here is the retail current news on zen
Just bumping the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_puUApw6E

>>57462225
Zen looks pretty sweet, I'm gonna wait until it goes through a vishera-like refresh before getting it.

>>57463831
>waiting for a refresh of a chip that isn't out

wew

>>57464089
AMD did it when vishera, it got like 15% more clock speed with the same watts, and even if they didn't newer revision 990FX boards are awesome at overclocking, where as when 990FX was new, you had to buy an overbuilt gaming board that could handle chips running close to 5GHz 24/7 without dying.

>>57464116
>when vishera came out*

I was going to build a workstation around Zen, to replace my old old Westmere box, but it won't be out to compete with Skylake E5 Xeons, and I'm getting fucking antsy.

>>57464189
>workstation
Unless you're a sony Vegas hobbyist like me where an 8350 is a total beast, I see nothing wrong with going intel, especially an X264 rendering rig where it's working 100%.

>>57464206
My biggest workload is virtualization, followed by photography and shitposting, so video transcoding performance isn't a big deal to me. I'm starting to get into video just a little bit, but I use PowerDirector.

>>57464454
>virtualization
Yeah man, save up the cash and get an x99 platform, all those ram banks will help.

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>>57459209
>AMD
>made in America

Kek

>>57442052
I've had some few issues when rendering in 3DS Max (mray and vray) but I shouldn't be rendering with a FX in the first place.

Had an FX 6300 for 3 years,i LOVE that CPU.
The FX 6300 is just about the best thing you can get for the budget.
I loved it to death,i switched to an i7 6700K because memes and power usage.
The performance boost wasn't that good (not counting the EXTREMELY CPU dependent games,where i got 60+% FPS boosts)
I like Intel just because they waste much less power.
In terms of heat,my FX 6300 had better temps by a large margin,but the max temp of the i7 is far higher so it makes sense,not to mention the i7 is simply "stronger" in general.

>>57448814
>tfw rev 3.0
I love this shit, aesthetic as fuck.
I'm worried about the VRM, I've read that they overheat a lot.

I'm happy with my Phenom II 955 / 32gb ram rig. Might pickup a FX cpu later so if I ever want to upgrade all I gotta do is drop in the FX. or if the Phenom dies.

>>57437477
>dying star
maybe canis majories, might match that in terms of energy burnt through.

>>57449660
>>Microsoft is going to die because of general incompetence
>Windows 10 is now pretty okay now
>Surface PC looks great
I dont see the problem

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>>57465331
>NSA/Windows with 24/7 spying is okay
>video games are more important than freedom

>>57465351
why don't you start making some open source free video games then faggot

always been your problem, you don't have an answer to the useful software available on other platforms, whether that's Photoshop or logic or battlefield

>>57465643
>useful software
>battlefield

AMD is a pile of shit. Can't even play well with a Lenovo Y700. I equally blame Lenovo for shitting the bed in regards to AMD compatibility, but AMD should have made an update to their driver that didn't force windows explorer to go into an infinite crash loop.

I do not recommend it, get something else, I don't care what, as long as updates to it don't fuck you over and leave you with a broken piece of shit.

Considering a processor upgrade from my decent-ish Athlon X4 860K, would it be foolish right now to get an FX-8320E versus, say, an i3-6100? I'd be able to afford additional RAM if I got the FX, and the additional cores/cache in the FX would help with multitasking versus the i3's hyperthreaded dual-core setup. I know the i3's cores are significantly quicker, but there's still only two of them (even if they're hyperthreaded), so I can't help but think it could still choke if I, say, want to have a game running while I have a billion tabs open in Chrome while chatting and having video playing on a second screen, for example. Would the FX be a mistake? I do plan on keeping whichever processor I get for a couple of years minimum.

>>57465239
Yeah that huge heatsink on rev 4 and rev 5 really get the heat off it.

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>>57465239
Also, it's a bummer the 990FXAUD3-R5 has no firewire, I'd have to install an X1 firewire card to use my HDV camera

running fs 965 6x3.3ghz
its a dream
debian testing 4.7 kernel
icewm
chrome

>>57466382
Maybe that's the reason I had to change it.
I bought the rev 1.1 when 3.0 was the newest, worked fine for a while then something happened and mobo stopped working.
Fortunately, warranty covered the damage (they didnt say what was it but I suspect it was VRM related) and they replaced my old rev with a 3.0. Works fine so far.
I wonder how will top series mobo for Zen look like, and I hope it isn't as bad as "top" GB Intel mobos that look like something a 14yo minecraft player, PDP fan would ask his parents for Xmas.

>>57466453
>R5
Wait what, I'm sure both mine (rev 3.0) and the 4.0 have a single 6-pin firewire. What a shame.

>>57466500
The 990FXA-UD3 R5Rev 1.0 SKU was made to guarantee FX9590 support, probably because many people bought a 990FX-UD3, got an old revision, and it didn't work with the newer 9000 series.

>>57466585
Also the loss if the six pin firewire isn't so bad, you're getting an ALC1150 audio which is damn near audiophile quality.

>>57466585
When was it released?

>>57466594
Ah yeah, I also read it got an upgraded sound card or something.

>>57466609
Amazon said it was available since somewhere in 2015, so I think it's the best gigabyte's 990FX boards can ever be.

>>57466613
Indeed. I'd upgrade only if Zen wasn't around the corner.

>>57466621
I agree, I only have one because i'm a cheap ass who's always behind the curve.

>>57448814
that's an oddly satisfying motherboard to look at. I'd get a windowed case just to look at it

>>57466726
That's why I loved it, made to handle huge power draw through it, mid range board, not gaudy but fast, 89.99 when I bought it in September, I wasn't even gonna build a new rig but it was so worth it just for the sound card-like quality alone is way better than my current pc which gets interference depending on the frame rate of my game.

I dont have fx personally but build couple of fx based systems and i have only gotten praised for them.
Im still running phenom II x6 1050t @3.8ghz
Its basically hotter fx 6300.
Cant wait for zen to launch, its gonna bring much needed competition to upper tiers pf cpu market.

>>57467095
I think Zen is going to be awesome for expanding the AMD user base to enthusiasts again, then the FX 4000, 6000, and 8000, series will be great for budget builders.

>>57437460
ur point?

>>57465351
I'm fine with this, as long as it works and I don't have problems in the forseeable future because of it

>>57437403

>"Costs far less than a new Intel CPU and comes pretty close in performance"

Are you fucking retarded? There's a hell of a lot of Intel CPUs, there isn't just one type and cost point.

There are LOTS of Intel CPUs that are far cheaper than that heap of junk, and still perform just as well if not better in many applications, and there are plenty of far more powerful (and I'm talking about performance here, not the gargantuan power draw of the FX) Intel CPUs for people who need a non-budget CPU, too.

The FX 8350 has its strong niches yes, but only a fucking retard like you would make blanket statements about it being 'far cheaper but almost as fast'.

>>57467805
Well it is awesome for the money, the 8350 hangs in there with the skylake i5s, beating most of them, and you can run two GPUs in crossfire or SLI at x16 lanes each with the 990FX chipset.

>>57467830
only if whatever you're using likes to utilize as many threads as possible, which are pretty niche scenarios for the average user.

>>57467853
The budget boards are chintzy as fuck Anon, with a 990FX you can get a board with like 10 usb ports on the back with lots of PCIe bandwidth, and the beefier power phases help with overclocking because the board doesn't get as when when you're running a good OC.

>>57467890
I agree, if you're gaming, get an i5 and overclock it, but man, an 8350 is really good if you can get 8 of those threads rockin.

>>57467897
>get as when
get as hot*

>>57442157
9590 and Crosshair V Formula here

>>57471013
Did Asus have to make a newer revision of the crosshair V fomula to use the 9590? or just issue a bios update? the board should handle 4.7GHz no prob, I saw a video of Linus unboxing the FX8150 and crosshair V way back in 2011.

>>57471047
Bios update my friend.

>>57471071
Noice.

>>57442932
Both Arma 2 & 3 are single threaded.
Forest is fine but look at how large cities perform.

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>>57465331
>Tfw work tech
Windows "rolling release" 10 has colossal issues not only on our end but customers have major issues as well.
It's a huge clusterfuck for everyone involved.
1/10 people prefer working with it.

>>57471268
Windows 10 sucks so bad, my sister is backing up her shit to restore her toshiba laptop to the 8.1 it came with, her audio is all fucked up and super quiet, and she gained nothing anyways.

>>57465237
No wonder amazon has installation options for $100 when looking at AMD boards.

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8320e here

foreverial waiting for zen because I want all new shit like m.2 and can't justify updating my current platform

probably going to splurge on a higher end board with lots of bells and whistles and get a middle range zen CPU

>>57444961
this, but I only have one of them. it's still a beast though. the problem is finding affordable motherboards. used LGA2011 boards go for so much that I ended up buying a new one instead.

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Would RX480 get bottlenecked by OC'd 8320?

>>57476727
Nope

>>57437403
If you're a normieshitter then by all means get an AMD, if you're a software developer, you should go for Intel.

>>57477072
>normieshitter
>Literally can't get an FX processor from walmart or best buy unless it's a custom machine.

>>57437549
>95w tdp 6 core
>furnace
Wew.

>>57477072
Gotta have that 50% higher IPC for your fucking text editor.

>>57480085
Nonsense, my d2500 is perfect for programming.

>>57480093
I was being facetious, anon. In fact, one could argue that the lower the performance of your system, the better your code will be as you would likely be testing with such a low bottom line.

>>57480185
So I shouldn't throw away my athlon xp-m 2000+ laptop?

>>57444849
not really

>>57442025
>tfw still rocking a fx6100

Hi goys, Huezil citizen here, just a question..
Currently I have a Phenom X4 955, I want to buy an FX 8320E Or FX 8350, in 2016, is it worth?

If I buy an Intel I would need to change motherboard and buy a new processor, if I buy some of the mentioned processors above I wouldn't need to change any of my components. And only spend R$ 400 in a new upgrade, and probably it'll last 3y with good performance.

Probably ZEN will be expensive as fuck in Brazil, plus the motherboard, so I don't know if the right thing is wait to ZEN or buy an FX, or even buy an Intel and spend R$ 1100.

>>57483174
The 8320e is great.
Just overclock it to 8350 clockspeeds.
But if you dont have a decent CPU cooler yet, you could also get a 8350 with that wraith cooler.

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>>57483174

Unless your motherboard is fucking amazing I wouldn't slap an 8350 onto it as those chips draw significantly more power than the phenom line. The 8320e is a great chip as ->>57483719 says without knowing your motherboard I advise against overclocking.

>>57483719

IIRC of the 8 core chips on the 8370 and 8370e come with the wraith cooler.

>>57445680
You can always just get a pcie usb card.

>>57437403
im still on an athlon 2x 250 from 2009. works just fine. might upgrade to a 2c / 4 threads zen if there is any. (or eventually if really cheap a 4c zen)

>>57437403
If your mom pays your electricity bill, sure.

>>Costs far less than a new Intel CPU and comes pretty close in performance
It doesn't cost that much less anymore, and it's nowhere near "pretty close in performance". I'd take a i5 6400 over my FX 8320 (OCed to 4ghz) in a heartbeat.

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FX-8350 represent!

This build is serving me just fine and all-in was like $400 to build.

>>57484232

>, and it's nowhere near "pretty close in performance"

Battlefield 1 disagrees. Hell in a fair few games recently Guru3d have pitted an 8370 against a 5960x and the 8370 is fairly close to it at 1080p and identical at 1440p and 4k.

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>>57483926

>>57484270
>he fell for the 16GB ram meme

get another 16GB you pussy, otherwise great build m8

>2016
>still falling for amd's shady marketing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ITA1_XoqM

on a serious note, the zen is NOT going to fail because of Jim Keller

>>57484270

>fx 8350
>16gb
>gtx 1050 ti
>some shit mobo
>$400

stop lying

>>57437403
Sorry for barging in but I'm looking to swap my i5 2500k for something more up to date.

Does AMD offer anything to rival the 6600k/6700k for a similar/lower price?

Obviously i'm going to overclock the shit out of them so suggestions of how an overclocked AMD can match those when not oc'd doesn't help much.

>>57485824

>Does AMD offer anything to rival the 6600k/6700k for a similar/lower price?

No.

>>57485839
Shame, I wish they can start rivaling Intel's higher end stuff so we can either have an alternative or even get Intel's prices down.

>>57485863

Its why everyone is so focused on Zen.

>>57485824
You'd have to wait for Zen
And waiting for new hardware isn't recommended
It's supposed to be out this spring
What's wrong with that Sandy Bridge chip? Just super overclock it.

>>57485955
I'm doing 4.6GHz and in some things its starting to show it's age, especially games like WOW(yeah I know, no need to tell me).

I'm used to being able to have a music player up, chrome with a ton of tabs, maybe some video file up aswell, not closing anything down.

And lately I've had to.

So yeah, I'm not in a rush to change it, just checking whats on the market now. May aswell way till spring, intel's kaby lake should be released around then from what I've heard.

>>57485351
I don't understand what you're getting at?

>8350 is $150
>1050Ti is $140
>Shit mobo was $10 thanks to a Microcenter promo when buying 8350
>SSD was like $50
>HDD was a holdover from an old PC.
>Case was real cheap, like $30.
>RAM is some discount shit

>>57486026

>I'm used to being able to have a music player up, chrome with a ton of tabs, maybe some video file up aswell, not closing anything down.

Thats generally a sign of not enough ram.

>>57484781
Whatever

>>57486498
I got 16 gigs of ram, never seen it go above 12 used, so nope.

>>57486755

Well the tasks you list generally don't eat much in the way of cpu cycles but sure love to molest ram at times. I would be seriously suprised if a 4.6ghz 2500k is choking with all that shit running.

Personally I have no experience with a 2500k as i'm running a 4.7ghz 8 core vishera chip so it takes a shitload to cripple performance in typical OS activities.

>>57483719
>>57483733
Thank you for replying Anons, I have one Thermaltake FRIO for 4 years, my max temperature using this cooler is around 36-50c, and one Gigabyte GA-970 DS3P, probably an FX 8350 works on this mobo since it has 127w TDP, like my Phenom X4 955.

>>57486799

125w at stock sure but that number absolutely rockets when you overclock due to the typical voltage curve. Consider that the highest clocked vishera chip (the 9590) runs at 1.5v out of the box. Even that 4.7ghz 1.428v 8320e is going to be pulling nearly 200w at full load.

tl;dr if you are clocking above 4ghz you best know what you are doing on old motherboards.

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES 220W

>>57486831
Why would I overclock it? I have my Phenom X4 955 since 2011 and I didn't found a valid reason to overclock it, even when I tested I overclocked it to 3.6ghz but no valid reason or improvements, and it still running games in 1080p with +40fps (doom, rise of tomb raider, Crysis 3) paired with an R9 280.

>>57486831
>
> Even that 4.7ghz 1.428v 8320e is going to be pulling nearly 200w at full load.
It has this clock speed by default or this is an turbo mode optionally used/activated by the user?

>>57486797
Meant that while playing WoW for example, which can be pretty cpu intensive in situations.

>>57487030

An 8320e has base clocks of something stupid like 3.2ghz. 4.7ghz is a massive overclock. Still consider that even for an 8350 locking all of its cores to its boost speed (4.2ghz iirc) is going to possibly require a minor bump in voltage and (more voltage or not) increase power consumption.

See also: some newer intel chips having 3 clock speeds - single core load, half core and full core (which clockspeed getting lower each time).

>>57487060

Yeah for a single thread.

>>57483733
>AMD CPU
>Intel burn test
When poorfags will have their own tests?

>>57487157

IBT is just a specific part of linpack done by a dude who worked at intel. You could easily use prime95 but I prefer IBT.

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>AMD's 8350/8320
>Uses a shitton of energy
>No internal GPU, requiring an external GPU that requires even more power
>On a aging platform that still uses DDR3

I'm not even a fanboy--I've bought into Bulldozer
I've done APU builds
I've bought into their GPU's
AMD always looks good on paper, but they're absolutely flawed with their execution
I'm cautiously optimistic about Zen, but I'm not holding my breath

>>57487235
>Uses a shitton of energy
Not really
>No internal GPU
Enthusiast platform 4 lyf.

>>57488694

>Enthusiast platform 4 lyf.

Good thing since intel's igpu technology is years behind AMD's efforts. Only now are they besting AMD despite a truly staggering node and R&D advantage. If zen slaps polaris onto its SoC Intel is basically fucked on that front.

>>57488796
If AMD has a better iGPU than intel, it's game over for them especially for prebuilt small form factor machines, it'll be 2005 all over again.

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>>57488886

>If AMD has a better iGPU than intel

There is no "if" - they flatout do. Its taken until broadwell and its huge slab of L4 to catch up to AMD's years older igpu tech.

I would like to point out that both Intel and Nvidia are learning the hard way that building a gpu (for intel) and cpu (for Nvidia) isn't as easy as they think. Intel in particular is woefully unprepared for the sort of driver support required for a gpu due to so many games shipping broken - for all of the talent at intel and the hardware they have they are in no way prepared to deal with the shit the AMD and Nvidia software teams do to make sure CoD 12: over 24lb of pussy and ass edition runs smoothly on their gpus.

If zen brings cpu performace upto at least haswell performance within a sensible TDP envelope (which is 95w and under) Intel is basically fucked on the OEM front unless they bribe everyone again.

>>57437436
>an entire GHz higher
>still slower
RAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

is it worth getting the 8350

i have the 6300 right now

>>57489110

>2600k
>400mhz faster than 5960x
>still slower

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>57489138

At this point? Unless you score one for peanuts no - just clocks your 6300 as high as you can.

>>57489138
Yes, because you're already on the platform.

>>57489150

A 8350 is a significant jump in power draw vs a 6300 - not all AM3+ motherboards (especially not old ones) are upto the task of feeding such a chip.

>>57489192
Any board made when the 6300 was hot stuff can handle FX8350, the FX8150 has been around since 2011 with the same wattage, so the board makers keep it in mind.

>>57489150
It's not worth it at this point at all you stupid faggot. Platform is outdated as fuck at this point with Zen right around the corner. Like the other guy said, unless he gets it basically for free it's better to just save the money at this point.

>>57489231
But muh 8 coar

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>>57489220

Perhaps but we all know the real strength of AMD shit is the ability to overclock and anyone going from 63xx to an 83xx isn't going to see enormous leaps in performance unless they crank the clocks.

>>57489192
This, had a AM3+ board i bought for a 6300 with 4 power phases for the CPU and it ran an 8320 like shit, not to mention I couldnt OC at all and the MC would often have struggles and i needed to undervolt my RAM.
You need a mobo with at least 6 power phases, or 8 ideally. The 83xxe chips or whatever may be less stressing.

All in all just wait.

>>57489522

>The 83xxe chips or whatever may be less stressing.

Those e chips are the golden samples - an 8320e for example comes out of the box at 1.1v territory (something even Intel struggles to match on their 8c chips if you disabled HT) and I bet an 8370e isn't too far above that.

When you think about it some of the FX chips are a shining example of node maturity - some of their traits (read: voltage or clocks) are so far beyond what the original release could mange its staggering. Imagine if Intel refined the node for sany bridge for 5 years we'd see chips running sub 1v at stock and/or 5ghz sames at less than 1.3v.

>>57489585
>FX chips are a shining example of node maturity
Same thing with the boards, you can spend $100 and get a nice ass board that overclocks wellbecause they've been making it so long, nice ROGshit needed.

>>57489605
>nice ROGshit needed.
no ROGshit needed.*

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>>57489605

Sabertooth or bust yo. Sure the crosshair is that little bit better but realistically unless you are LN2 or need the few extra ports it offers the sabertooth is the cream of AM3+.

When zen drops I am going to go balls in with a top end mobo and see how far I can oush the chip on air (bonus points if my silver arrow fits on AM4).

>>57437403
FX8350 reporting in, shitty build with 2012 era hardware overall, does everything just fine for me

Thanks AMD

>>57489642
I can't wait to see how far some people will push their old FX rigs once they build a new zen rig, 5GHz media center PC's and shit

>>57489687

I will push mine to the limits of air cooling - open bench with volts cranked up in a cold room and see how long it takes to catch fire while boincing.

>>57489661
>2012 CPU
>Still somehow stays relevant in 2016
Based AMD.

I saw this thread a couple days ago. Glad is still up.

Im using a 8320 since 3 years ago now, before that i briefly used a FX4100 because I fell for the Bulldozer meme.

Before that I had a long time serving Phenom II x3 720. I used to post pics of it running win7 @3.4 ghz and with the 4th core unlocked on a horrid Biostar motherboard i had.

Did the upgrade to an Asus M5A97 when 890X chipses where King of the AM3 plataform.

Then did the "upgrade" to a 4100, it was brief tho, less than a year later i sold the fucker for 100usd and got a real bargain an 8320 open box for 120 usd.

This CPU saved me from getting an X58 build...and in a way Im glad.

I had the bastard 24/7 with a nice OC @4.2ghz no vcore increase nothing just the multiplier bump...that was on an CM Hyper TX3.

1 year ago i bought a h80i gt because the fan on the TX was dying and the h80 was 60 dollars...the store fucked up and sended the newer one.

I now have the fucker @4.93ghz from time to time (most of the time it runs @4.5ghz) vCore is 1.32 (stock was 1.26) and the ram is clocked @ 920~mhz.

I once tried to clock beyond 5ghz but beyond 4.95 i need to increase vcore above 1.44v and im not comfortable with that much of a bump.

Ill try and post a picture later but im lurking on a friends wedding while taking a shit.

Also i posted a few times the story of how i wanted to buy a 1060 mini from zotac, ended buying a 470 4gb for 150 usd and recived an 8gb version.

>>57494345
>I fell for the Bulldozer meme.
Some anon gave me shit for waiting if Zen gets a higher clocked refresh, but this is why I am waiting, Vishera was a good improvement

>Getting a decent 24/7 OC on a CM Tx3
I feel good about having bought this cooler for cheap now.

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>>57437403
There are people with AMDs this winter, and then there are people who freeze to death.
*drops the mic*

>>57495282
I'm gonna need some heat this winter, considering picking up a 7970 used and build the ultimate 2012 meme machine to keep warm.

>>57484781
Why is that video interlaced.

>>57489087
The fun think would be that Zen comes with pretty much the entire chipset inside it. I presume the only other chips you need would be an ethernet MAC and a BIOS EPROM.

Meaning you can have a pretty clean mainboard for an OEM or laptop.

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I love this shitbox. HP s5704y. Pulled it out of a dumpster behind Office Depot.

Emulates like a beast, computes all day and doesn't afraid of anything.

Does anyone else feel like an AMD system "feels" different to use? That is, it handles tasks in a certain way distinct of an Intel computer, though the same tasks may be done.

>>57495372
>AMD system "feels" different to use?
I think it's because they had memory controllers on the CPU, when I upgraded form an Athlon X2 to a Q6600, it rendered video faster, but the AMD felt snapper.

>>57437403
I got an FX 6300 + 970 board + 8gb ram for under 200$ half a year. Already had a 212 EVO from my E8400. Overclockd the fx to 4.3Ghz. it's all good boyo

>>57495432
Good deal, I've seen FX8350 and board combos real cheap, but I'm buying new since I don't want something that someone's overvolted.

>>57495432
I have a FX-6300, 16GB RAM, and a RX 460 - 2GB. Pretty happy.

>>57495363
I guess this will make zen mobos cheaper?

>>57495462
The chances of killing the CPU are slim even when overvolting, you'll likely kill 5 motherboards before you kill a single CPU.

>>57495571
Well the board is definitely something I don't want someone to have overvolted.

>>57495609
Then just buy a new board and used ram/cpu. They only thing I wouldn't buy used is HDD/SSD's desu

>>57495664
Used 8350s are only like 25 dollars cheaper so its not too big a saving, and it's still cheaper than a used i7 2600k.

>>57437691
This I have a asus 7870 and FX chip set from 2011 and runs all the latest games.

>>57495719
That's fucking sweet, I have the XFX HD7750 but I wanna get a 7970 and rape the PS4.

>>57437460
50 fps IS a big deal.

If you had 10 fps ofcourse those 50 help.

If you had 60, 50 more is super favorable. Even a console peasant can see the logic in this.

who does need 220 Watt processor?

>>57444849
Oh come on it's not like game will ever support more that one thread, that will never happen. EVER

Privacy? what are you a commie?

>>57444961
>two $30 CPUs
>$500 motherboard

Oh yeah you're way ahead of the game with that one.

you can buy a second hand 2600k + mobo for less than a garbage piledriver CPU.

in fact i 'upgraded' from an OCed 8320e months ago and the difference was night and day. you're better off just waiting for zen if you're going to be an amdrone.

>>57437436
Wow the 6600 is a whopping 16% faster than it's five year old equivalent, runs hotter and overclocks worse.

great innovation there Intel

I wish more games were multi-threaded properly. Bet it's a bitch to program.

>>57456260
>I'm only half white and i want to shoot someone right now, holy shit.

I presume that's the black half talking?

>>57500892
Yeah it is, they blacks bein really racis, I voted for my man Donald.

>>57500482

I don't know how Intel continues to revolutionise cpu performance year on year like this!

- Tom's Hardware

WHEN IS THE ZEN OUT?

I needed those for our developer/virtualization lab testbed like half a year ago. Fucking hell.

>>57499579
I bought four 2670s within last year. Not a single motherboard for them cost $500.

I got one excellent dual one for $250 used, and bought two brand new ones for $300 a piece.

>>57495363
>ethernet MAC
That can be done on die now.

Shit I've got a(non-x86)system with no BIOS chip. BIOS gets loaded straight from the hard drive. It get even stranger. The processor can not see storage devices without the BIOS. I have to start up the GPU then get it to load the BIOS into RAM which is shared with the CPU. No the GPU does not have an EEPROM, it has fucking storage drivers coded into its instruction set. Very limited ones that then load the capable ones from software.

While talking to the chip manufacturer about this shit I had to stop and ask if they were really high or just stupid. After a long long talk with there current and ex employees/quasi contractors I finally managed to get an answer out of them.

Yes

>>57495719
I don't think the high end 7xxx's will ever stop tearing ass.

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>>57501375
>WHEN IS THE ZEN OUT?
next year

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>>57501534
They're like the new nvidia 7800 series cards, so good, you upgrade your CPU around em to get rid of a bottleneck.

>>57501011
So just to be clear the black half of you wanted "to shoot someone right now" after seeing a video of other black people... being black?

>>57501571
Am I having a stroke or is that case upside down?

>>57501604
Yes, I see a dude getting messed with a bunch of niggas, maybe if white bois in europe got mad once in a while,they wouldn't be screwed right now.

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>>57501637
It's the Dell Optiplex 745 and it's built ass backwards, i'm building a new rig anyway because muh ATX.

>>57501637
Looks like the case might be on its side or inverted motherboard layout with top-mounted PSU.

>>57501652
Shit your GPU is pushing hot air down(which just rises up) and sucking cool air from the top.

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>>57501717
It's such a stupid setup but it actually works, It maxes out at 66C, and when I left furmark running for a week with an overclock during memorial day with my grandmother, I came back to 76C, the thing is a tank.

>>57500482
>runs hotter
Skylake is cool as hell, what are you talking about? I can get 4.7 GHz on my 6600k and it doesn't even break 60 degrees with a Hyper Evo 212.

>>57501637
Yup, it's backwards. BTX layout, to be precise, I have a Dell XPS 410 that's exactly like that on the inside.

Would an FX-8320(e)/8350 be a worthwhile upgrade from an Athlon X4 860K? I'm torn between an FX or an i5-4460, and while the savings from getting an FX would allow me to buy more RAM, I worry about the longevity of the FX platform, especially with Zen on the way.

>>57501739
I've used Pentium II systems with split in half boards and risers for the risers that looked less retarded than that thing. Back in the days when case alarms didn't fuck around. Pulling the side off disabled the whole thing and triggered what sounded like a smoke alarm. People got fired back then.

>>57503770
>tfw you grew up on Socket AM2 and core 2 shit
Dayum, that old hardware doesn't play.

>>57501807
Never skimp on RAM. What doesn't get grabbed by userspace will get used for cache.

>>57503781
I grew up on socket 5/7 shit.

But yeah PII's did not fuck around. "Are we targeting servers? Are we targeting desktops? We don't even know." -Intel

The Pentium II Xeon was the first Xeon ever made. All fucking downhill for Intel from there. I think they've made a comeback in the last... shit what year is it?