/FFG/ Firefox General Thread

what are you using instead ?

>>57416566
ungoogled chromium

>>57416445
Do you even get paid for all these posts?

>>57416580
Paid by whom? The recommendation is to uninstall Firefox and use literally anything else. Mozilla are a shit tier company and Firefox is a shit tier browser, so this seems like sound advice.

>>57416580
Everybody needs an imaginary internet success if they can't reach any IRL.

ALready done

File: 1474391591744_waifu2x_art_noise3_scale_tta_1.png (497KB, 511x1242px) Image search: [Google]

497KB, 511x1242px

What was Firefox?

File: 1478351013226.png (453KB, 854x707px) Image search: [Google]

453KB, 854x707px

>>57416445
Fuck off shill
>SJW
>implying every other company isnt filled by them
Browsers should be judged by their merit not by whether the developers are SJWs.
Firefox and its forks are much better than any Google piece of shit. Chrome/chromium are literally the shitties browsers in terms of security and extensions. They're fucking pathetic tbqh

>>57416884
>Firefox and its forks are much better than any Google piece of shit
>slow
>bloated
>better

If i wanted a browser where SessionBuddy is a pointless addon that can't work without the browser and system freezing because Chrome has no tab lazy loading,
i'd install Chrome.
But since i have a Session Manager on Fireshit which won't break my computer when i load sessions of 50 tabs of porn or books or music, i'll stick with it.

>>57416898
>slow
only if you have shitty machine
Most importantly they are more secure therefore better. Chrome is a piece of shit botnet

>>57416943
>>57416943
>only if you have shitty machine

It's literally fucking dogshit.

These tests were done on a Skylake Xeon, 16GB of RAM and a PCI-Express SSD. e10s enabled and dom.ipc.processCount set to 50. Now tell me Firefox isn't slow:

>FF vs Chrome - 30 Random sites
https://webmshare.com/play/KBm8v
>FF vs Chrome - 11 News sites
https://webmshare.com/play/Meo8O
>FF vs Chrome - 40+ Instagram profiles on Windows
https://webmshare.com/play/Wn1GD
>FF vs Chrome - 40+ Instagram profiles on Arch Linux
https://webmshare.com/play/6wK0n
>FF vs Chrome on bad machine (2core/2thread - 2GB RAM)
https://webmshare.com/play/gBdJb
>FF vs Chrome with uBlock
https://webmshare.com/play/RAE86

>Vivaldi vs Opera vs Chrome
https://webmshare.com/play/LX38L

Firecocks is basically the Arma 3 of internet browsers.

File: 51i-h9zy5OL.jpg (15KB, 216x210px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 216x210px

I installed Opera and I don't seem to have any problem with it.

>>57416935
get onetab, fool

No thanks OP. I like my vertical tree tabs too much.
The closest thing your Chrome diarrhea has is "Tabs Outliner" which requires donation to unlock full features.
I never knew Chrome users were cucks until i saw this.

>>57416964
Chrome is not secure and has zero cunstomizability. It is the MacOS of browsers.
Enjoy your botnet and unique fingerprint.

>>57417004
So Fagfox is literally "autism: the browser"

Thanks for confirming it

>>57416990
That doesn't resolve the horrid system break when you reload the tabs at once fool.
I'll stick to what works. Fucking faggots at Chrome can't even implement proper resource management into their tab system.

I've been thinking about switching to seamonkey. You still have compatibility with firefox addons and customization, but none of the SJW shit.

>>57417011
>FagFox

fucking REKKKKT

epic

>>57417021
Works on my machine

Your bookmark system is pure puke.
And your solutions for opening videos via external applications are camel shit because "muh security and trust".

>>57417042
>And your solutions for opening videos via external applications are camel shit because "muh security and trust".
So Firefox is in fact less secure than Chrome?

>>57416445
why do you keep remaking this thread

>>57417030
But it still runs on Gecko, which makes it slow like molasses

>>57417048
If by less secure you mean it allows me to actually do some shit with it, then yes.
I'd rather use a car than be only allowed to watch it from the sidelines.

>>57417011
>autism
More like giving a fuck about not having a shitty browser. Enjoy being a homosexual
Chrome is literally /lgbt/-tier
I bet you're browsing on a Mac right now faggot

Until there is a usable equivalent to tree style tabs on Chromium, I'm not switching.

>>57417071
Just paste the link into your precious console, like livestreamer chaturbate com/uglytranny best


>>57417088
Good thing your shitty addon will go away when FF finally switches to pure webextensions

>>57416964
Palememe is the same? you can test?

>>57417111

I will use Firefox forks after that.

>browse porn on Chrome
>decide to switch to other tab
>fappidy fap
>decide to switch back to the previous tab for the finale
>tab webpage was closed down for some retarded reason
>my finale is gone and needs to re-load again
>my boner is ruined
>my day is ruined

>>57417084
>non-shitty browser
>literally below 10% market share
>full of SJWisms
>"PLS GO VOTE" ads
>spending $10k to remove "Master" and "Slave" from source code instead of improving their shitty engine

Good thing Firefox reaches out to people with brain problems like you. Don't be left behind, Chris-chan!

install w3m is best

>>57417134
>I'm too dumb to CTRL+SHIFT+T

>>57417111
>Just paste the link into your precious console, like livestreamer chaturbate com/uglytranny best

>just lower your standards and accept a shittier experience, and you'll love Chrome
No thanks.

install w3m is the best

>>57417139
>literally below 10% market share
>if more people us it that means it's better! Just like iPhones!
>he also gets ads in his browser because he uses chrome
Kek
kys

>>57417151
>i'm too dumb to read

>>57417173
iPhone marketshare has in fact plummeted over the last years. Your equation is invalid. Enjoy your niche system and browser.

But feel free to tell me where Chrome has ads?! I don't see any lol

GNU icacat best browser

>>57417238
Even Palememe is more up to date

>>57417254
what would i need updates for? it runs fine

>>57417254
wtf? There is no backport from ff.

>>57417267
>latest icecat version is literally half a year old

https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/

File: Selection_635.png (14KB, 597x137px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 597x137px

>>57417084

>>57416445
>5 points have been deposited in your google account

>>57417468
>if you don't like fagfox you must like google

KEEEEEEEEEEEKKKK I'm literally using yandex and opera

>>57417478
>literally chorme reskins
>>>/v/ is this way

File: 1473697381237.png (305KB, 401x395px) Image search: [Google]

305KB, 401x395px

>>57417444
>not knowing what firefox ESR is
IceCat is derived from it. ESR is aimed at enterprises but the mainter decided they wanted it to be based on ESR. Less maintance.

This trait is also followed in Pale Moon, which is currently on a (large) fork of Firefox 24 ESR, with security backports. 27 will be based on 38 ESR. (While removing australis).

I personally have no issues with Pale Moon. Sometimes older is better.

>>57417532
ESR means: No updates, only bugfixes.

Enjoy your single process.

>>57417504
Both browsers have their distinct set of features that sets them apart from normal chrome. Pity you are so blind and set in your ways, freeturd shill.

File: noose.jpg (223KB, 800x563px) Image search: [Google]

223KB, 800x563px

>>57417478

>>57416884
I'm a Firefos user and I think it's a pity, but Chrome is more secure. Firefox has no sandboxing and it has serious structural security problems like https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=929539 (thankfully solved, but how many are left?)

Once electrolysis and Servo stuff start maturing, Firefox will get a lot better... or that's what I hope. I wish Chromium was botnet-free so I could use it. It's a pity that despite being open source it's tied to Google services by hardcoding.

File: mrskeltallaughing.gif (955KB, 360x360px) Image search: [Google]

955KB, 360x360px

>>57417543
Once the new ESR comes out, we'll get multi process.

That will be quite a while though. Did you know you can do it now by spawning a new instance with the -no-remote flag?

>>57417553
>Both browsers have their distinct set of botnets that sets them apart from normal chrome.
ftfy

File: 1460155768917.jpg (202KB, 424x600px) Image search: [Google]

202KB, 424x600px

>tfw you're forced to use lagfox because you care about privacy and shit

>>57417606
Says the tard using a Mozcuck botnet. Have you colored your hair purple yet?

File: vev lad.png (84KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

84KB, 400x400px

>>57416566

>>57416631
> recommends Google

nothing wrong with seamonkey .
been using it with great pleasure .
low memory usage , with firefox its filled in no time.
try it out and see for yourself.

I use Chrome. Just deinstalled bloatfox.

I tried Palemoon and Opera but I ran into issues with unsupported websites and that kind of shit. Got sick of it so I DL'd chrome because I want something fast that just werks.

Fuck it, Google can have my shitty browsing history, I don't care anymore.

>>57417776
CAN THIS DO ADBLOCKING AND FLASH???

>>57418943
Yeah

>>57417134
>worst of all, google now knows what sort of degenerate pork he gaps to

alright i am running vivaldi with adblock now what?

>>57419173
Start enjoying life

delete fagfox

File: 1475254075223.gif (374KB, 821x796px) Image search: [Google]

374KB, 821x796px

>>57416445
Uninstall firefox.
No way systemd.
8G+ ram is a meme.
Install BSD.
Can you image what a pile of shit you're computer would be if you actually took all the crap memes on /g/ serious?

comodo ice dragon

>>57422405
>comodo

KEKKKKK

Done

Fuck this shitty browser, going back to Safari.

>>57416445
I havn't been keeping up with the bullshit people are getting mad about these days.

What's going on?

>>57423162
It's not these days, this has been going on for a while.
See, Firefox is slow and developed by SJWs
Check this out >>57416964

>>57423289
Great so when is chromium getting noscript and working adblock? Never? Cool, that's what I thought. Meanwhile I'll continue using a browser that isn't made by a company that doesn't directly profit off insecurity.

>>57423598
> Noscript and adblock
Wow, nostalgia. Even on FF, I'd switch to uBlock origin.

And maybe uMatrix and random agent spoofer.

>>57423622
Truth be told I just use a hosts file. But noscript and self destructing cookies are just plain required for every day browsing now.

File: default256.png (60KB, 256x256px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 256x256px

>>57417065
>what is a general

>>57417444
IceCat 45 beta is out

>>57417543
if multi-process comes at the expense of the addon architecture or configurable preferences then i wholeheartedly will

>>57417581
>Once electrolysis and Servo stuff start maturing, Firefox will get a lot better
The only reason to use Firefox is its power-user features. It has now removed those features and will continue to do so. There is no reason to use Firefox anymore.

>>57417587
if you mean IceCat users, keep dreaming

>>57417651
>tfw you're well-informed enough to not need to use lagfox

>>57418070
it's usable

>>57423147
install icecat

>>57423637
uBlock is more elegant than just a hosts file since you can also use anti-anti adblock filters and what not.

And noscript can basically be substituted with uMatrix. Didn't have any problems with that approach yet. I guess it's only a partial substitute for self-destructing cookies....?

Either way, just getting rid of cookies isn't even enough. Without random agent spoofer your browser is quite likely uniquely identifiable by the ad companies and anyone who cares anyhow.

>>57423733
>I guess it's only a partial substitute for self-destructing cookies....?
install Clear Console
/
block 3rd party cookies

>>57423733
PS: uMatrix can delete even un-blocked cookies xx minutes after they've last been use. Plus it can just block cookies from domain x used on domain y.

>>57416445
>don't let the SJWs win!

who? This term has lost all relevance.

File: 1473301557888.png (660KB, 1106x1012px) Image search: [Google]

660KB, 1106x1012px

>>57423810
no it hasn't

friendly reminder that firefox is less secure than both chrome and fucking microsoft edge. why are you still using this garbage, /g/?

forbes.com/sites/leemathews/2016/11/05/microsoft-edge-comes-out-on-top-in-browser-security-test/#37660ef45b57

>>57424069
Literally impossible for it to be less secure than Chrome since Chrome deliberately leaks all your info to Google

>>57423729
it doesnt istall right ?
but it doubles the memory usage over Seamonkey... BUT its fast tho.
but i dont like the memoy usage of it ...

how do you get rid of the tiles ?

install brave browser.

chrome and firefox are both infected by SJWs.

>>57416566
honestly on android ff is losing the game. desktop is petty normal for me but android version is lacking everything, almoat no addons, poor perfomance and poor comparability, wake the fuck up ff team!

>>57424107
This.
There is no "less secure than google product".

>>57416572
there is no such thing anon. All you lose when using chromium vs chrome is some codecs and the google office apps.

why did firefox go downhill so much
it used to be THE web browser
how could it get so slow

>>57426380
Google has money. A lot of money. Also Android gives chrome big user base for testing, while all Mozilla has is a "better than IE" reputation and is used mainly on PCs, all this while being a non-profit organization. And since Google has Youtube and could push html5 really fast while Firefox had to adapt, i think that was the first big sign of Firefox getting behind

>>57423758
Yeah but Umatrix can't delete them right after leaving the site, wish gorhill would add the feature so i can get rid of self destructing cookies already since it's not even e10s compatible.
>>57423733
Umatrix has a random agent spoofer.

File: ss+(2016-11-07+at+05.25.47).png (12KB, 1561x251px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 1561x251px

>disable this garbage
>still can't install unsigned addons
What do?

>>57427719
install developer edition

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056

>>57417004
Chrome and Firefox are equally vulnerable to fingerprinting. You can check panopticlick and the social media fingerprint test (find your own links, I'm lazy) to prove it. Even FF's test pilot privacy feature won't protect you.

Moreover, Chrome is a more secure browser due to its sandboxing, a feature Firefox won't have until sometime next year.

Privacy-wise, both browsers run Privacy Badger and umatrix, so why argue? Use whatever you like.

>>57428804
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Sandbox

Looks like windows builds will get some sandboxing features in firefox 50. The biggest hindrance has been the XUL addons which have blocked e10s from being rolled out

>>57416572
Still annoyed that there's no x64 build for Windows. I don't want to compile that shit everytime there's a new update.

>>57426372
Sure thing, lad :^)
https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

switched to Chrome full time after FireShit became so fucking slow and laggy even with only uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere installed.

Fuck that nigger Mozilla that gave 10000 USD to someone who changed "slave" and "master" to something """""""""""not racist""""""""""""" in the FireFox documentation.

Fuck you Mozilla you fucking niggerfuckers

>>57416572
tried to install it, but as i already had the regular chromium installed nothing happened

>>57416445
What should i use on Android instead? (using Fennec F-Droid now). Only Firefox based browsers seem to have plugins for some reason.

>>57429105
HTTPS Everwhere is poorly optimized shit. That's more the EFF's fault than Mozilla's.

>>57416572
>shit decoder support
>some extensions don't even work
literally cucking yourself.

Cyberfox is one of the better fork

>>57428975
>The core of the Windows sandbox is Google's chromium sandbox.
What the fuck? Is Firefox going to include literal unaudited Chromium code, which is known to point directly to Google's IPs?

I am a recent convert. Firefox is still my favorite UI with tree tabs. I also miss vimperator. But chrome is just way too fast. I also have 32GB of memory so i am fine with it using all it needs. It sucks that it's recording all my data but I only use it for work so hopefully I'll be fine.

>>57430041
I'm pretty sure they're not going to incorporate parts of chromium that connect to google's servers. In the past they have made use of Google's safebrowsing service but they modified it in their implementation so it checks URLs locally and only sends partial hashes to google to double check

>>57416445
>uninstall Firefox
>don't let SJWs win
They do win if you uninstall it because they forced you to use something else.
I would gladly fork it if I would have knowledge to do develop it.

File: 1478192531703.jpg (34KB, 640x637px) Image search: [Google]

34KB, 640x637px

>>57425686
What?

File: 13ad1d4ab7a8d39f349f52e72403c9f3.png (697KB, 1000x710px) Image search: [Google]

697KB, 1000x710px

/g/uys wgats your opinion on waterfox? I have liked it so far.

>>57431324
Placebo crap.

>>57416884
but SJWs are shit developers

>>57431331
this

>>57430314
They win by trying to cuck you with their propaganda. If you dont use their browser, you're not being held hostage by them

>>57425938
All Android browsers suck.

>>57417134
chrome://flags/#automatic-tab-discarding

Now I just need to get rid of thunderbird....

>>57423289

The people who program Gecko aren't SJWs by any stretch of the imagination. Just because Firefox's leadership is full of SJWs doesn't mean all the devs are SJW too.

>>57424069

Those tests should be run again with security addons. No one here recommends using Firefox without NoScript.

>>57433408
Firecucks dev pls go

What version are you guys using?

>>57433458

Faggot - just because a leader is cucked doesn't mean all the underlings are. Haven't you ever worked for an organization with a shit-tier manager?

>>57433491
How is the general feeling in the Mozilla SJW headquarters? Do you get put into the stocks and publically shamed if you don't show up with colored hair and begin mansplaining things?

>>57416445
Using SJW boogeyman to scare people into installing botnet browsers.
I admit, its an interesting, but old tactic.
Dunno if you're google or ms, but either way the pay must be decent.

>>57433550
t. groupthink mozilla cult member

>>57433563
Irony

I've since started to use Opera. It's not as bad as people make it out to be

>>57433550
Sometimes it seems like there's a group of individuals that do nothing but push SJWs into every thread about Mozilla. I don't know but this SJW shit has been very effective at dividing the community up.

>>57417776
>No Sync
so fuck you..

>>57433646
It's not like the SJWs don't squander Mozilla's money like no good:

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source-support-first-awards-made/

>15,000 for a bot that removes "Master" and "slave" from Mozillas code

Also, I'm sure all of you pinkhaired femmes forgot about the brotli debacle a while ago as well, because "BRO IS TOTALLY CHAUVINIST!"

>>57433626
Opera = MS

>>57433695
>brotli debacle
.br is more practical file extension. The only reason there was outrage about it was that the first proposal was .bro. I don't give a fuck about that stupid shit.

>>15,000 for a bot that removes "Master" and "slave" from Mozillas code
It's not that simple. If you read the thing there's actually artwork that has to be redone with the new terminology. I don't care what Mozilla spends their money on anyway and neither should you.

>>57433743
>I don't care what Mozilla spends their money on anyway and neither should you.
You should however. Money wasted on shit like this is money not spent on actually making their browser not freeze every time I load the catalog

>>57433766
Money put toward promotion and keeping their brand out of negative light is money that is being put toward acquiring more money down the line.

Spoon feed me like a 4 year old autistic boy on why I should uninstall firefox?

Also, using waterfox w/ Firefox. I also have Palemoon, are there any other good ones that I should know about?

>>57433743

I care about the culture they foster.

They encouraged bullies. They encouraged social activists that keep shitting up FOSS organizations. They encouraged blackmailers.

They encouraged people who rot tech from the inside and will lower the code quality and morale of devs across the FOSS ecosystem.

I'm fucking tired of FF. It dares to run slow even on an i7 4790 with 16gb of ram, on ssd. I'm just tired, I expect it to be FUCKING SNAPPY all the time with this hardware.

>>57428280
>Pulse Audio hard dependency
Pulse Audio hard dependency
>Pulse Audio hard dependency
Pulse Audio hard dependency
>Pulse Audio hard dependency
Pulse Audio hard dependency