why are you nerds so paranoid about the CIA and microsoft

>>57391246
We're job creators fighting back against the automation Jew.

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>>57391246
read this, it explains the basic reasons

>>57391246
Don't want to go to jail for sexual perversion, obviously.

>>57391450
>homosexuality decriminalization
>society progress

>>57391246
Because I break the law and post about it on 4Chan :^)

>>57391450
tl;dr pedos on /g/ wanna download CP without getting caught

>>57391642
Hello CIA shill

>>57391516
Good lord, fuck right off back to /pol/.
I don't even give a shit if this is bait, nobody gives a shit.

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>>57391642
>False equivalence

It's the nsa and fbi who concern me. They dig for dirt, not just criminal stuff.

>>57391450

>they think they are epic fighters of justice for the common man
>they just don't want the NSA to see their terabytes of lolicon

>>57394590
>>57391642
Oh, fuck off already.

>>57394590
(You)

>>57394617

the truth hurts don't it anon

>>57391246
You are right. Why the fuck should I pledge allegiance to the US law? I'm not even their citizen.
So fuck off with your burgerland spyware

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>>57391246
I wonder who could be behind this post?

I can't wait until the shit REALLY hits the fan. I think Snowden bought us some time...but this whole thing will be a mess of historic portions. A new world divided between the sheep that require technology to function and the wolves that abandon it to fight, or control it to feed off the sheep. An epic battle is on the horizon. Can't wait to see it.

Privacy is not secrecy and secrecy is not intelligence.

You can ask who guards the guards themselves. With regard to the four points on >>57391450

We're embedded with a prerequisite for survival which is adaptation, in other words "evolve or die".

A culture of fear is an assumption of a nefarious intention when the core function of information is factual, devoid of interpretation.

The assimiliation of progress and law is a fallacious assumption of law, upholding an ethical communitarian standard which restricts the growth of individual freedom.

Privacy as a basic human need doesn't hold ground when you equate need with a veil of secrecy appealing to your diversity in humanity.

Basically, privacy is overthought and hedged under protective reasons when you're clouding masks for their own sake without the need for a cloud of secrecy. Also the statement of "read this it explains the basic reasons", actually does not explain anything in a culture of parrot copy pasted reasoning instead of shaping your own thought. I'm all for privacy, just a thought.

>>57395181
2edgy4me

Maybe because they violate US copyright law daily, and in some courts and without a good lawyer, obscenity law as well?

The CIA and NSA aren't doing the bulk of the watching anyways. IP holders and their friends are.

>>57395320
Go to uni and learn to compose coherent thoughts. Self education hasn't been working for you, oh lord of fragmented, vaporous, return key abusing bullshit.

>>57391246
>I'M SILLY

>>57391246
WHEN YOU FUCK WITH THE BIG BOYS THEY'LL FIND SOME DIRT ON YA AND YOU GET FUCKED!
NOBODY IS CONSTANTLY WATCHING YOUR PONYFAPPING HABITS YA DINGUS/MORON(THAT WOULD BE TORTURE)!

>>57395320
We can tell you're 12.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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>>57393143
THIS THIS THIS!!!

You people are all to young to remember J Edgar Hoover. This man had a file on just about everyone and would frequently blackmail people.

With today's technology it's possible to have a file on literally single person. Imagine if every single thing you said on 4chan was logged and saved for all eternity. You might say something today, like disagreeing with government's surveillance policy, that gets saved for decades and makes you automatically red flagged as the enemy of some powerful person. They could use their power to keep you from receiving promotions or just ruin your life if they felt like it. It literally destroys the foundation of free speech and is the greatest threat to America right now. That's right, it's a bigger threat than a half dozen pedos!!

It's not really paranoia, at least for me. I just like privacy. Its the same reason why I don't like people looking at my screen over my shoulder. Yeah, most of us have nothing to hide that is true. Yet, I gurantee all of have blinds on our windows in our homes, we have nothing to hide so why do we cover our windows ? Because we like privacy. I don't want people looking into my house and seeing what im doing and I dont want people looking in my computer and seeing what im doing. Plain and simple.

>>57397752
I've seen plenty of neighbors that don't have curtains and at night can see in and see everything, some people really just don't care or "le have nothing to hide", not a good analogy there.

>>57397772
some people are exhibitionists too

It's the NSA get it right

Gosh

>>57397772
>people are stupid so i have to be stupid too

>>57397772
Fine, locking doors? Shielding your phone away from peering eyes? Covering a piece of paper when writing something? This analogy can be applied to many examples. And it may not be everyone anon but the vast majority do.

>>57395181(you)

Upvoted

Wake up sheeple

>>57397835
What the fuck are you hiding?

>>57391246
Read the book 1984, or atleast watch the movie.
The movie was made to resemble soviet Russia.

>>57397772
>I've seen plenty of neighbors that don't have curtains and at night can see in and see everything,

Are your neighbors aware they have a creep sitting outside their home watching them through the windows at night?

>>57397851
That's the point, unless it's illegal he doesn't have to say whatever it is that he is hidding, privacy is a basic right that people can use as they please as long as it doesn't violate laws.

>>57397851
Well, I lock the door when I go into the bathroom, or when I sleep at night in my dorm room. I cover my paper when writing sensitive information down or taking a quiz and the douche next to me hasn't been to class in 3 weeks. I lean my phone away from people who I notice peering over trying to see what im looking at because I find it rude. If you dont want to lock the door when you go to the bathroom or shield sensitive information then be my guest. You do you man.

>>57397903
>unless it's illegal he doesn't have to say whatever it is

5th amendment. Even if it's illegal he doesn't and shouldn't say anything.

>>57398009
Indeed, forgot about your 5th Amendment.

Why is that any time someone posts anything here that goes against the grain you always get these snarky, condescending, short comments. Is this some kind of shill tactic by shill bots to dismiss something that could hurt them?

>>57391642
>>57394667
>>57397836

SAGE

>>57391246
It's the dude who calls everyone an encryptard! Please take a moment to notice the growth in this shills shilling. Instead of calling everyone amd encryptard in the first post, op (or as i like to call him, Jesse mcbathsalts faggotpants) has restrained and instead used the term nerd. Let's all clap for op, the sensitivity training is working, you are one of our most valuable shills.

>>57398149

Wow you're the only one here that is truly woke.

Can I come to your sweet 16, or does your mom not allow girls?

>>57391246
I hate CIA niggers.

>>57391507
>sexual perversion
what the fuck is non-sexual perversion then?

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>>57397645
>Imagine if every single thing you said on 4chan was logged and saved for all eternity

>>57398670
>textiles.com

>>57399917
Shit.
textfiles.com

Most of us have government secrets pulled off the dark net. Some have cheese pizza.

>>57395320
>>57391450
t. pedos

>>57397480
Well written 12 year old

>>57391246
>invade privacy
>no big deal it's just cake xd why no paranoid we should lock you up psycho
Clash of shit eating ideology with independence

>>57391246
Tell that to the guy planning a camping trip who looked at backpacks and pressure cookers after Boston

>>57391246
If you check out the desktop threads you'd see something like 70-80% of the board has loli/etc. on their computers.

>>57391246
they live in a hollywood fantasy land and think they're all super secret political activists

or they're simply holier-than-thou dullards trying to look important and "moral" on the internet

>>57391246
My yellow cake recipes aren't safe anymore

>>57391246
I'm a paranoid schizo. When I'm off my meds, I literally believe all of those things. People are watching me, tapping my phone, spying on me, maybe even gleaning some of the thoughts inside my brain. And no matter how much I know this isn't actually the case, it's still something I can't shake. Logic can't beat it at all. It drives me completely insane.

>>57391246
>Big brother is a good thing

>>57399917
Why do you want me to buy cloth?

People are retarded.
>Surveillance will end the world! Hitler!
Hitler would not have been able to establish a dictatorship if Twitter, Snapchat, Periscope et al existed back then. You'd have video proof of the Richstag fire being a false flag. You'd have viral videos of Jews being taken away, streamed in real time.

The only downside of social media is that once you make a mistake, it's stored forever. And some people, like the autists here, make a lot of mistakes.

>>57391246
I'm mostly paranoid about Microsoft or CIA getting hacked by criminals.

Once your personal data is on some server who knows what will happen to it.....

>>57391642
"Look guys! I said it! I am so cool"

Pls fuck off.

>>57391516
and your point is you mindless piece of shit?

>>57391246
I can see how this is going to play out in the future
>No Frank, i dont feel comfortable wearing neuroenhancer.
>bu-but if you dont have bad thoughts you dont have to worry about the mind police.

>>57391642
Go eat a patty with shreded glass in it you fucking dope.

>>57395320
Now can you please rewrite that into some coherent chain of thoughts?

>>57391246
Most people here collect CP, you didn't know?
Why else would they care about monitoring their torrenting?

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>>57391246
thanks for starting this thread. I'll explain:

the pic itself doesn't show how these people can/could also:
- read your emails (see wikileaks, for example)
- read and store bank/credit card/paypal transactions
- track the stuff you buy (see the case of the NSA intercepting computer hardware bought by individuals and companies)
- learn what you like/dislike (as in politics, porn, etc., etc)
- intercept and literally "hack" malware for use in DDoS attacks / infiltration / etc
and so on. these things are related to one each other (for example, malware can intercept connections to banking websites and email accounts, which the NSA can intercept and steal the data, etc..)

some reads
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
https://www.wired.com/2014/03/nsa-botnet/
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/29/5253226/nsa-cia-fbi-laptop-usb-plant-spy
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-nsa-tampers-us-internet-routers-snowden

etc.

>>57391246
Fuck off cianigger

>>57391655
what do you have to hide if you arent doing something illegal, huh?

>>57391642

OK, made me chuckle.
Have your "(you)".


>>57395066

Why _THE_FUCK_ would brazil care about the CIA? That makes no SENSE!!1!

>>57407178

Can I post your mom's nudes?

It's not like she has something to hide, does she?

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When building their surveillance state the Stasi were limited by manpower. Eventually they were unable to manage the sheer volume of data they collected.

Nowadays with computer databases and algorithms and AIs there's practically no limit to how bad things can get.

>>57395320

this is drivel

To me, it's less about the application of mined data (interest tracking, personal information storage), but the concept of freedom that these application encroach on.

If you are truly free, in my mind, you are free of agencies reading all of your data for profit and intelligence, you are a citizen that has the freedom to retain information that you do not wish to give. Some may argue that "you give your data willingly, you agree to user agreements, you basically sign contracts regarding your privacy", but most people are too ignorant to realize that they are being tracked and watched by federal and private agencies. Originally I thought that if you have nothing to hide, why worry? But again it isn't the use of the data, or how that effects you physically, but the principal that you deserve to conduct your business in private.

CIA niggers want to piggyback off of Microsoft faggots' marketing data to sell me big government.

>>57395320
Who knew the Rev. Al Sharpton posts on /g/?

>>57391246
What's so "secret" about my "secret recipe" when CIA niggers know what it is??

>>57403205
False.

I'm immoral and I need to protect any potentially incriminating information.

>>57407178
Post your browser history, please. I'm sure you have *nothing to hide*.

Why are you so fucking mentally retarded? We're you born with down syndrome or do you just literally have shit for brains?

>>57398149

You seem disproportionately emotionally invested for such a trivial comment.

Do you honestly think the govt gives a shit if you jerk it to anime all day and cyberbully kids on social media sites like the average /g/ user would?

Theyre looking for bigtime criminals and CP hoarders, you really dont have much to hide. They probably dont even give a shit about piracy if you arent the owner of a tracker

>>57391450
Laws don't need to be broken in a democratic society to make progress. I fully agree with keeping government on a leash though.

>>57409472
>Do you honestly think the govt gives a shit if you jerk it to anime all day and cyberbully kids on social media sites like the average /g/ user would?
They obviously do, or they wouldn't be spending significant amounts of money on doing it, while doing everything possible to deny or retroactively legalise their actions.

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>>57391246

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>>57409472
Yes.

>>57409504
They do.

>>57391642
I can already do that without having to worry about getting v&, I still wants some privacy

>>57391642
>>57394590
>>57397851
Pedos, nothing to hide, whatever, are not good arguements. Please, gtfo this board.

Why are you so paranoid about other people choosing privacy?

>>57391642
/board

>>57408293
So you have something to hide? Can't wait when you end up in jail faggot.

>I've never heard of identity theft
>no one has ever had their emails stolen and used against them

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I can't believe that there are people in this anonymous board that unironically think it's okay to live in a surveillance state.
A few weeks ago there was an article about how police officers in the US used their job database to find information for personal purposes. Now imagine letting whoever works for the government know about everything you do.
If they had such power, if they knew who you vote for, in what you believe, and they wanted to stay in power, what would stop them from getting rid of you for voting "in the wrong candidate", or in believing something not "state-approved", whatever that means for who's at power?
You fuckers shouldn't say mass surveillance is okay NOT EVEN AS A JOKE.

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>>57410165
>This level of paranoia and autism
>theyre coming for our animu porn!!!

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>>57413012
>They might use it for bad things against us! Nevermind that they have much worse shit to worry about and theyd have to sift throught petabytes of data just to find out I watch tranny porn!

Cant you guys give a single argument without sounding like Terry A Davis?

>>57391246
People With Heads up Their Ass: The thread

>>57402186
Next time you go to a doctor or god forbid an attorney make sure to tell them to make everything you've talked about public because you obviously have nothing to hide.

>>57391246
To all who don't give a fuck about privacy, a basic human right, post your credit card information, passwords, etc. on this thread. Because apparently you have nothing to hide right?

>>57398654
Perversion of justice

>>57414726
But that info is being handled by the government, not random autists on the internet, plus its like petabytes of fucking data, nobody's gonna sift through it just to get your shit and anyone that tries will get swatted within seconds.

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>>57414726

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>>57414926
>Government not giving a shit about the 4th amendment

>>57414926
>But that info is being handled by the government
People from the government, not some abstract entity.
And these people from the government might be retards just like you and illegally sell specific information about someone if bribed, or they might use it for their own purposes. It's not some conspiracy shit, it's something that WILL happen because inappropriate use of database info is already a thing, see the police officers in Denver that used crime databases for personal gain and were dumb enough to get caught.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/fearing-no-punishment-denver-cops-abuse-crime-databases-for-personal-gain/

>Denver police officers performed searches on state and federal criminal justice databases that were not work-related and instead were made to help officers' in the romance department and to assist friends, according to an independent department monitor

>The report by Independent Monitor Nicholas Mitchell listed a host of wrongful searches, including an officer getting a phone number of a woman he met on assignment, and an officer running the license plate of a man for a friend who then stalked that person.

According to that article shit like that happened quite a few times already.

>>57414584
>Nevermind that they have much worse shit to worry about and theyd have to sift throught petabytes of data
people are just human, all kinds of shitlords get employed all over the place. They do not have to sift through data at all, they can submit simple queries and get interesting stuff all the time.

I am sure queries are logged, but rarely if ever reviewed.

>>57414726
>post your credit card information
that is a shit argument, and not really a valid analogy.
the main problem is gathering data about people without the people being suspected of anything, and storing that data [forever], possibly in case it might somehow be used in the future.

You think hillary or trump are just memes, but you have no idea who might be in charge in the future, and regardless of whether there is some clause in the constitution against retroactively applying laws, who is to say that will exist in the future?

It also stunts freedom of speak, because people self-censor when they know they are being recorded, making society into an even stricter groupthink reddit (literally).

>>57415130
>People from the government, not some abstract entity.
You mean private corporations contracted by the government, right?
Snowden wasn't working for the US government, he was working for a contractor.

>>57409472
If you torrent an anime series or a movie a week you are a big time criminal in the eyes of the jew-controlled west

>oy vey don't you know us media creators have a right to a lifetime and 70 years of profit you thieving goyim?

>>57414542
If it's illegal, they are.

CP bans are about punishing pedos, not protecting children. Do you think an anime pedo is any less of a pedo? They want you in jail because you are disgusting.

>>57415237
That's even worse then.

>>57415264
I remember when they put gays in prison because they were disgusting.

>>57391642
Well, you'd have to be pretty stupid to want to get caught for downloading child porn.

>>57398253
>>57397480
>>57391642
>>57394667
>>57406086
>>57414934

>Calling everyone who advocates privacy a pedo or a 'kid'.

Funny that this happens whenever a thread like this springs up. It's almost like there are people who are paid to wait for these threads so they can crush opposition with pre-planned strategies.

Funny that. I wonder who would do such a thing?

>>57412730
I MIGHT have something to hide, I don't know.

Why would I go to jail for secret cake recipes?

>>57414542
> live in england
> have lolicon or DFC
> alternatively, raunchy stories with supposedly underage participants
> go 2 jail
???

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>>57416304
>whenever a thread like this springs up, you get like ten posts with variations on two basic insults
>this must be the work of US foreign intelligence
Sure it is, pedo kid. Who else would have the resources for this kind of operation?