/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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First for x230 with x220 keyboard

how's the default wifi card on T420?

trying to decide if I need to buy a different one

>>57370711
how much did you pay cause im thinking about getting a T460 also tell me how it is when you get it

>>57374342
I have

Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak]

and I haven't ever been able to make it go full speed in linux even copying over SSD onto an SSD

>>57374324
Looks comfy

Thinking about doing that myself, do all the extra keys not work or only some of them?

Also how different is this older keyboard still to the x230 one in terms of feel?

>>57374324
but do you have a working caps lock light?

can someone recommend me a quiet thinkpad?
i have an x60 and a t61 right now and they're both so loud that i'm afraid to bring them to class

>>57374485
the older keyboard is less ridgid

Is it necessary to have the same capacity RAM? I know on desktop it doesn't really matter, but I have an open RAM slot, and I have a 2GB stick lying around

>>57374506
>T61
>loud
My T601F is very quiet, even with the fan on top settings. Is yours an Nvidia model or something?

>>57374541
it is an nvidya model
please don't make fun of me it was free

>>57374626
well it was free, thats a pretty gud price, not that anon but i'll cut you some slack

>>57374485

The new keyboard is unusable.

>>57374503

I have caps lock mapped to a modifier key. because i don't use capslock anyway.

>>57374539
Nah, Thinkpads aren't picky. If it fits, it sits.

Is an X220 worth the extra dosh over a T420 for increased portability, or does the smaller size/reduced weight not really make much of a difference?

I only need a laptop for making a couple of long trips a year.

>>57374829
The price difference between the two shouldn't be substantial. If it is, you just haven't seen enough listings.

>>57374860

I'm in Britbongistan. a T420 is £120 and a X220 is £140.

>>57374506
T61 might need some lube on the fan, or a fan, which are cheap new off Ebay. I have five T61s and none are loud under load.

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hey guys

What ssd should I buy for my t420?Is it worth upgrading?

I've seen some of you fall for the convertible ones, what are your temps under load? I'm playing around with Yoga S1 and HW monitor shows up to 80C. 45 when idle, so the tool itself cannot be that far from truth.

>>57374342
~200kbps for me, people say meh but actually my german internet is about 0,5-1mbps on good days so i live with it

is $200 for a libreboot x200 too much?

>>57374950
Got one really cheap with all the other refurbs, few days ago actually. Put it up on local ebay equivalent, will see what bites. I'm under the impression normies love that shit. Meme it up with "milspec" buzzwords and there we go, 20% of pure profit.
At least in theory.

>>57375114
Yeah cause you can add libreboot yourself

>>57374829
Small is nice since most people use a laptop as a desktop at home. BTW Thinkpad docks are cheap and an underrated accessory. I'd get the X220 then connect it to a nice external monitor at home. Notebook screens, all of them, are shite compared to a nice large monitor.

>>57374972
SSDs are always wonderful and make a great difference because old spinner notebook drives eat ass and not in a good way. Ultrabases are cheap and worth a look for when you use a notebook as desktop.

is there any way to specifically tell when my T420 was made? i know that the sticker on the bottom gives the month and year, but is there a way to get a day?

>>57374972
Just get something on sale with enough space you need. Really any of them will be better than a mechanical drive and you wont be able to tell the difference between SSD's except in benchmarks. I went from a SATA II SSD that completely saturated the SATA II speeds to a SATA III drive that was twice as fast and the only thing I noticed was battlefield 3 maps loaded slightly faster but even on the old drive they completely loaded the map before the countdown timer finished.

Of course there are some you should avoid I think the Kingston V300 had some issues just look it up before buying

you can get this 500GB one for 115 on newegg with this code ESCFFEH36
I don't know if its good though.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226834

Guys I just got a T420 and I can boot to BIOS no problem.

However the Security section of the BIOS says the "Hardware password manager" and "Password at unattended boot" are enabled

Is this normal or something to worry about?

also anything else I should troubleshoot to make sure I wont have problems in the future?

>>57375560
>Guys I just got a paperweight and I can boot to BIOS no problem.

However the Security section of the BIOS says the "Hardware password manager" and "Password at unattended boot" are enabled

Is this normal or something to worry about?

also anything else I should troubleshoot to make sure I wont have problems in the future?

>>57375576
niceme.me

Got an X131e in the mail yesterday. It's my first thinkpad and has an i3-3227u, 8GB DDR3, and 300GB HDD. I picked it up for $137

>>57374296>>57374296
Cancerpad general
These threads should be outright banned

>>57375701
Now you only need to throw in a SSD.

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>>57375701
forgot pic

>>57375701
I found it too bulky. I prefer the x120e

>>57375745
I plan to. I can put in a 2.5" SSD and an mSata SSD so I'll probably get the mSata first as a boot drive

>>57375759
I like it cause I can actually play gaymes on it. With an 11.6in screen I don't mind turning down AA and resolution a bit. Runs CSGO at 70FPS

>>57375792
nice
I want to try CSGO on linux, it'll probably be playable

>>57375844
What specs will you be working with? On an i5-3210m and 8GB DDR3 on Ubuntu I got around a 5-10 fps drop from Windows

Is the x220t good for actual artwork? I.e. making sketches>lines>colors?

>>57375701
>>57375746
>botnet

>>57375915
I think it uses a wacom digitizer

>>57375915
the pen accuracy turns to shit once go within 1 inch to the edge

>>57375725
>I've never used a thinkpad

Any word on 2017 models yet?

>>57376093
Nope

should be getting the retro thinkpad in 2017 though, david hill said so at that lenovo conference earlier this year

could be typical executive desk-jockey verbatim bullshit though

>>57376138
>retro thinkpad
No touchpad buttons, so it's cancer

>>57376191
>Using the touchpad instead of the track point

Found the real cancer here

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>>57376191
>RETRO thinkpad
>touchpad at all

>>57376191
really?
where did you get this information?

I'm so tired of this bullshit, why did they have to fuck up the only good laptop that is user-serviceable

>>57376222
>>57376226
I've used one for years on my ancient toshiba laptop, but the placement on the thinkpads i have is just not as comfortable for me.

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>>57376228

>>57376258
that is actually not too bad

I still wish they wouldn't have changed from the design of the T420 though. Fucking perfect laptop.
although admittedly I like the ports of the T430 more

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>>57376258

>>57376258
>no back/forward keys
fix that and I'd say it's perfect.
oh and not an hero tier speakers would be nice.
The ones in the w520 are good enough for most things, but my t420/t430s are god awful

Got a T520 and turned out to have the 1366x768 screen.

Will replace the screen for the FHD one. My question is do i need to get a new cable like when upgrading the T420 screen?

>>57375882
>i5-3230m, 16gb DDR3, Intel HD Graphics 4000

What's a good price for an X60 or T60?

>>57376340
no. I swapped out only the panel without problems

>>57376370
What will you use it for?

>>57376370
X60 or 14-inch T60 shouldn't be more than $75. SXGA+ X60T or SXGA+/UXGA 15-inch T60 could be up to $150 depending on specs and condition. Anything beyond that and you're getting completely ripped off.

>>57376370
depends on specs, but maybe <$120

>>57376370
On a related note I'm picking up an X60 soon. Mostly planning to use it for school (writing reports, internet, programming).

I'm getting it for $120, which seems like a pretty good deal. Still have to check it out to make sure it's good, but the guy doesn't mention anything particularly bad.

>>57376421
(Same person) The guy also says it has 4GB ram and 160GB HDD, which is above specs from what I can see. So I can justify the slightly higher price.

>>57376387
C programming on OpenBSD. Battery doesn't matter since it will be staying at home on AC. I'll probably be adding a small SSD to it.

>>57376446
>4GB RAM
Only 3 will be usable because of the shitty chipset.
>160GB HDD
Better than stock maybe, but still shit-tier. Nothing worth paying extra for.

>>57376446
pretty sure x60 can address only up to 3gb due to chipset

>>57376421
I bought an x220 with 8gb of ram for $125 and free shipping on ebay

don't waste your money

>>57376373
Nice, thanks.

>>57376258
So no extended battery that makes a perfect handle for carrying in one hand while using in the other?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFWJP5yCujw#t=46s

My company ordered ~120 e550s from for a contract in Korea. They were purchased from over there. Anyway the contract got cancelled and they're getting shipped back here (U.S.) I think I'd be able to get one at a discount since we're primarily a Dell shop, and we have no idea what to do with them. You think they'll have little Korean letters on the keys?

>>57376724
You should be able to just swap out the keyboard no problem
You can also probably sell the keyboard for a decent price in the US since I doubt very many people sell them over here.

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>>57376724
e series

>>57376724
I think the Korean and US english keyboard layout is pretty much identical.

>>57376421
It's Coreboot/Libreboot compatible, that's about all you'd have going for it. Dual core is yucky.

>>57376776
Yeah I know. They were bought to run a training program and that's about it, so I'm sure the company was looking for something cheap. All I know about the specs so far is that they have 8gb of ram. Plus they won't work with my dock, since they lack the port. Oh plus they have the WiFi cards, microphones and cameras stripped.

Looks like people agree that fucking logo is ugly as fuck all.

http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-time-to-think
http://blog.lenovo.com/uploads/general/DHill_5survey2.png

>>57376849
it's pretty A E S T H E T I C

>>57376849
>3000 people no preference/I don't use the trackpoint
>I don't use the trackpoint

what the fuck

>>57376314
I really hate those keys because I accidentally press them when I'm just trying to use the arrow keys.

I wish my X201 Tablet didn't have them. I'll just have to disable them...

>>57374324
but anon that's a "x230" with x220 keyboard and display

>>57376346
You'll be fine. Should run at a playable frame rate with AA off

>>57376823
I can understand microphone and webcam, but the Wi-Fi card being removed just seems like a nuisance, especially if you're going to possibly get one

>>57374324
Posting on leddit as well...

What's the current thinking on new buys?
Is it smarter to buy a current model with decent linux support while it has the EPP discount, or is the chance of the Thinkpad Retro coming out high enough to wait?

I'd get a ThinkPad if not for the design...

It looks 'tacky'.

I know I'm criticizing on the ThinkPad General, but am I the only one.

>>57377331
Might as well buy a model which exists. You can always sell it if the Retro is worth buying.

>>57377479
I like them because they are good value for money, are built well, and reasonably priced. Plus, lots of replacement parts

>>57377509
>tfw I'll never have the Retro no matter what because I'm that much of a poorfag

>>57377479
I disagree actually, I think the XX20 series Thinkpads are very classy. The keyboard is downright gorgeous and reminds me of the design style of Ducky PBT boards. There are certainly Adobe tacky elements about them like the function key though.

The >XX40 series would be perfect in terms of design if only they had the old non-island keyboard.

I have a broken t420 with the 1600x900 screen, and a t430 with the lower resolution screen. How easy would it be to replace the t430 display with the higher resolution t420 one?

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Are T440s starting to come off lease? I've noticed that a few months ago they were about 1,000 AUD, but now they can be had for around 700 AUD. Should I expect further price drops?

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won't the thinkpad retro, provided lelnovo doesn't back out, just be like modern t420 for like 4x the price of an actual t420? why would i spend my buckaroos on that?

>>57377742
10% better cpu performance

>had audio stuttering on a T520 when I used the network card
>updated BIOS to last version
>problem gone

>>57377759
and 100% better battery performance
and maybe even a decent screen

I have these laptops:
2007 T60p with 77% battery wear
2011 W520 with 55% wear

2009 HP compaq with 16% wear
2012 Probook with almost 0 wear

Please explain this shit.

>>57377651
Not possible.

>>57377796
Lithium polymer maybe

>>57377769
this

that T420 shitty screen really makes it look like obsolete technology and its time to move on

What happened with the thinkpad retro?

>>57377844
Nope, all use standard 18650

I got a new Thinkpad 13 with 32% off! Thanks /tpg/uys!

>>57377865
The next notebook line hasn't been announced yet

>>57375056

are they really that bad?

>>57375056
Are you talking in MB or Mb?

Im thinking to get a X200 and a 850 EVO.

Should i instead spend the money on a X220 and use the HDD it comes with it?

Also tell me about docks.

>>57377955
Depends, I got 100MBit/s this year. Had 3 before.

>>57378174
X201 would be my minimum

I'd save a few shekels more and get an x220 and a Crucial mx300 instead. Cheaper for more space

What's a good way to thorough clean my T420? Don't get me wrong, it's not filthy. Just best up. Or even better, do they sell new palm rests? Or a cover for the lid?

It functions well but whoever owned it before me was rough on it no doubt.

>>57378343
X201 are really expensive for whatever reason.

It is cheaper for me to buy a X220 than a X201.

>>57378370
>>57378370
>X201
do you think 70USD is good for one?

what was upgraded from the x200 to the x201?
i like that the x200 doesn't have a trackpad

>>57378399
That's the kind of price someone sells scrap for.

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Does Sandy Bridge GPU still see driver updates on Linux? If not when was the last update?

>>57378428
it's fully working supposedly

you must not be from the US to think that these old shitpads are worth this much

my ebay market is flooded with X201 models with a price range of 70-90USD buy it now many coming with docks and batteries

>>57378460
The last intel driver update on arch was on the 29th. But the driver has been broken for sandy bridge ever since an update during June so I've been stuck using that.

man i'm so bummed, I'd appreciate any help. i got an x220 tablet a couple months ago, upgraded the RAM and stuck an SSD in there. It had an i7, handled all my work like a champ, played my old vidya and chinese cartoons, i could even doodle on it. Comfiest piece of technology i've ever owned, I was supremely happy to have fallen for the meme.
Sometimes it would randomly shut down, but it was alright because I'd be back up and running again in seconds.
Last night I noticed that I actually caused the shut downs when I pressed down firmly on the keyboard or trackclit. I tested it out, the machine would sperg out then shut off. I turned it back on one last time, closed the lid, and went to sleep.
This morning I couldn't get it to boot. No lights, beeps, nothing. I did all the usual troubleshooting, removing ram and battery, holding power button, removing cmos battery, still nothing. All I can get it to do is flash the battery and sleep status lights once when I plug it in to power.
I've disassembled it, reapplied thermal paste, cleaned it up, and put it back together. Still nothing.
I don't have the cash for a new motherboard, and the cheapest replacement machine is double what I originally paid for mine.
I'm thinking that this is something I'll have to investigate in my free time, so I was tracking down schematics to see if I could determine what exactly went wrong and maybe cheaply fix it with equipment at uni. All I can find are X220 schematics, and I'm not sure I can use it. Frankly I'm out of my element here but I'm patient enough to learn.
Anyone know where I could find X220t schematics, or maybe other options I can try to get this thing to boot up? Sorry for the wall of text.

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I have no clue about the W series

Is a W520 i7 second gen, with 8GB RAM, 1 TB SSD (assuming here that that the owner knows the difference between SSD and HDD) and extended battery worth $500? This is in the US market. A 1TB ssd new is ~250-300USD alone. I don't even see too many W520 units on ebay

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COMFY AS FUCK

>>57378597
x220t were know to have a good amount of problems, that is why they are so cheap even cheaper than the normal version.

>>57378615
>>57378615
I personally wouldn't buy anything besides the X or T series, and I suspect that you're correct about the SSD being an HDD.
If it's really an SSD and you're good to go with the xbox size, sounds like a breddy gud deal.

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How does Civilization V run on an X220?

>>57378615
Depends on which SSD.

If its a cheap TLC SSD then no.
If its something recent or a 850 EVO yes, its a good deal.

Probably its a HDD.

>>57378694
It would run, but I don't think it would be playable.
I'm sure you'd have much better luck with an X230.

>>57378691
>If it's really an SSD and you're good to go with the xbox size, sounds like a breddy gud deal.
I've exclusively used the X series forever myself. Just seems like a good deal to pass up

>>57378706
you're right, forgot to mention that. It could be some cheap no name ssd like you suggested.

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>>57378674
Damn son what model is this?

>>57378591
>But the driver has been broken for sandy bridge ever since an update during June
elaborate

Anybody use qubes on their T420 with switchable nvidia?
Can you pass through the nvidia card to a windows vm?

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Anyone know of a thinkpad, elitebook, or latitude with a core m3 and a trackpoint? My T2020 (pic related) is really starting to show its age. The SU9300 is still fast enough for what I use it for but it runs pretty warm and since the fan bearings are shot and modern atoms outperform this junk, I think it's time to upgrade.

Clit-mouse is a must.

I prefer ~12", I don't care for touch, and none of that 1366x768 trash.

I'm going to order a new fan for my laptop but after that, I don't want to put any more parts into it.

Is the X62 out yet?
Also, is there a cheap place I can get an X61 besides eBay in Canuckland?

Where can I buy a legitimate IPS display for the X220?

>>57379852
buy an X220T and swap them if you're so paranoid

>>57379953
isn't the digitzer merged with the screen?
and aren't the tablets glossy since they have that plastic outside?

Is a T430 with these specs worth ~$225?

>Core i5 3rd gen (does not specify model, only frequency and that's 2.6 GHz)
>8 GB RAM
>256 GB SSD (yes, SSD)
>Webcam, USB/VGA ports and other similar paraphernalia seem clean enough (one USB port is 3.0, and one is always-on 2.0)
>1600x900 (14")
>Intel HD 4000 Graphics
>Around 2 ½ years of use.
>Windows 7 Professional

>>57380443
>one USB port is 3.0, and one is always-on 2.0
wat
also seems a bit high for a hd 4000 only model, but at least it has an ssd and 1600x900

>>57378691
Give W series some love too.
However they are mobile workstations, not really laptops. Ei. they are heavy and bulky but give you good performance.
Gotta be honest that I don't have a Thinkpad W, I gave an Elitebook 8560W which is supposedly the equivalent. I love the machine but it is too big and heavy to carry around on a daily basis. Got my X220 for that. My 8560W blows the X220 out of the water in terms of performance (i7 2630QM (afair, it's in my lab, not here with me right now so can't check specs) vs. i5 2520M and better GPU as well) but loses big time in terms of portability and battery life. Different tools for different jobs.

>>57379309
Do your own research.
Beware though that I could and can not get tap-to-click on that clitmouse to work under Linux on my Elitebook.

Can you put both a HDD and SSD in the X230?

>>57382055
With an mSATA SSD, yes.

>>57382118
Neat, I've ordered an X230 with a 320GB HDD and I'll probably just add a 128GB SSD instead of replacing the HDD with a 500GB SSD.

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Who ded battery here?

I need a replacement for my T420s, do chinese knock off work at all? I'm super broke at the moment, so I can't afford the $150 a legit battery world cost shipped.

Trackpad issues

Just bought myself a T430, on Windows 10 the trackpad is intermittent, every now and then it cuts off for a 3-4 seconds. On linux everything is fine. I've downloaded all the drivers and still having trouble. Anyone else had this issue and if so any ideas on how to fix?

>>57377531
>>tfw I'll never have the Retro no matter what because I'm that much of a poorfag

It's only a computer, and external keyboard, monitor and mouse will always be superior to anything that fits in a notebook. Most people use their notebook as a desktop anyway, and for portability I'd rather have a cheap used Pad so I won't be sad if I break it. I can afford any notebook I want but older Pads with SSDs work fine so why spend the money?

>>57377796
>Please explain this shit.

Dunno but how do you like the Probook?

>>57382322
The ribbon cable coming from the palm rest to the mother board is probably loose, take it apart and check

>>57378597
>I don't have the cash for a new motherboard,

I wouldn't get a new anything, but I would get another Thinkpad and swap RAM, SSD and whatever else is useful from your dead machine. The beauty of Pads is they are so easy to mix and match parts. That's why I stash dead organ donors.

If money is tight find something else which will take your RAM and SSD,

>>57382348
If that was the case, wouldn't it be happening on linux too?

>>57382139
You can add even more storage cheap if get an Ultrabase and caddy:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay

>>57382190
Anker batteries work for me.

>>57382509
>If that was the case, wouldn't it be happening on linux too?

Yes. Linux doesn't magically jump over a loose connection.

What are my options of maximizing storage in a t420? And what about thickness -- 7mm or 9.5mm?

>>57382584
They don't make batteries for the T420s sadly

Why the x220t has a lot of problems and how you can avoid them?
I wanna get one.

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>>57374352
I payed a bit over 1500 for this, its fucking lovely. Keyboard is great, screen is quick, fast as lightning. Case is solid and has a nice texture to it. Surprising light and very sleek. Battery life also great, though I got the upgraded battery.

>>57382598
Any ideas?

>>57382924
screen is slick*

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>>57374506
Hmmm unless the bearings of the fan needs oil, your machine could just need a dusting and some fresh thermal paste.

>>57374950
Having bought a 1st gen Helix recently, the machine isn't that bad but is a bit tad overpriced.
Likes to run warmer than I expected and the keyboard battery is bad. Oh yeah touchpad thing, but I mainly use it for a tablet, so meh.

>>57375701
Good price! I need find a screen for my X131e. Other than the lackluster performance of the AMD models, I think the i3 would be great, plus I believe it supports mSATA as well, which is hand for me as I have a few 16GB cards to use.

Downfall is keyboard and screen, but its a nice little device.

>>57376258
I'd like to hold out on it until I see some photos of the prototype that is working.

>>57376370
You'll most likely need a battery so warrant $30 of your investment into it.
Usually you can get them in decent condition from $50 to $120. Probably more if you want to pay more...
OEM AC adapters usually range from $8 to $15

>>57377479
Plenty of enthusiasts agree with you.

>>57377796
One was used more than the other?
Check if they are Panasonic cells, I have no clue about the HP's though.

Talk about the Probook tho ":)

>>57382924
i was thinking about getting this exact processor and similar specs. this sealed the deal thank you bases anon I hope your thinkpad works well for you. also new or used?

>>57378615
I'd make sure its a 1TB SSD and not a SSHD or HDD.

Otherwise, $500 is FHD i7 16GB W530 territory. If I was selling an W520, I think the most I would get out of one is $400, but most likely $300/350.

I'd pay only $180 to $260 for one, since I'm a scheming bastard.

>>57379363
X62 is out but I don't think available overseas

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>>57380443
If you can find one for $180, i'd go for that but $250 would be the max one would pay.
As long as the battery is in great condition, sounds fair.

anyone know how to make the bluetooth LED indicator work properly on a T420/win10? So that if bluetooth is off the LED is off?

Not a huge issue but it would be nice.

>>57382924
hey did it come with an optical drive that you could remove or no?

>>57376026
Didn't they release a driver update to address this?

>>57375759
rip the x120e

e-350 is too shit to do anything

>>57376618
There was an option in the survey they put on after this render was put out.

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Dell Latitude - e5450/70 or e7450/70?

>>57376867
Why don't you just remap them so that they act as arrow keys if you don't use them for page back/forward?

I bought a used x220 from Germany for 200€ but After a month the battery died and i don't know how to choose another one, could someone help me ?

>>57383686
Battery tiers:
>FREE BATTERY IF ELIGIBLE - https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122

>New geunine lenovo - most expensive but more durable and dependable compared to the chinese counterparts. If money is no object, buy new.

>Used/refurbished genuine Lenovo - on a budget, these have all the benefits of new batteries, just with some wear. Only buy used batteries from sellers that will screencap battery stats (charged vs original design capacity, cycle count) so you know what you're getting. Usually price is on-par with high quality third party batteries.

>High quality 3rd party battery - anker & denaq both use jap/korean 18650 cells and are thus known to wear well. Worth considering at this price point. Some models (XX30 and up) will not charge 3rd party batteries, so avoid outright.

>New chinese batteries - reviews are mixed but most use sub-par cells and electronics. They may die unexpectedly or wear much faster than genuine lenovo batteries. Others seem to work fine. There are a million brands and batches out there, so there's no way to tell which is better than another, if they are.

>used chinese or unknown capacity used lenovo - reconsider your life choices that led you to this destitute position

Will the Quadro in my W520 break if I use it often?

>>57383830
yes

>>57377742
A display that isn't shit?

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What's your opinion about the ThinkPad T460p?

How upgradable is it? If I get one, can I replace more than just
the battery, RAM and hard drive?

I feel that thing can last me 10 years.

Buying a laptop. I was thinking about the t460 but I thought it was rather pricy. All I need is apporx. 256GB SSD and 8GB ram. Any reccomendations?

>>57383944
in the same boat as this anon pls respond

>>57383987
>All I need is apporx. 256GB SSD and 8GB ram
Why is this ever a concern when buying a laptop?

You should ALWAYS be buying the lowest ram/drive spec possible and upgrading it yourself

>>57384045
that isn't always the case though?
laptop memory and ssds can get expensive on their own. you'd spend more if you bought a t420 with 4gb ram (2x2, probably) and a 120gb hdd cause you'd have to buy 2 4GB sticks and an ssd, plus then you'd have useless ram and a useless drive now

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>>57384031
>>57383944

Yeah, and I also wonder what's the fucking deal with this battery sticking out...

>>57384088
this
And the t460/t460p start at ~ 900$.

T440p for $200 on cl near me. Worth it?

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I'm a student what think pad should i get and what distro is great for basic task like and office l, video, and organization

>>57383750
If batteries are just 18650 cells, how hard is it to replace them yourself?
>open battery
>switch and solder the cells
>close battery
Sounds simple, but is there risk of firmware not accepting new cells or something like that?

>>57383750
I just bought my T420 with dead battery, does that mean I can just send it to them?

>>57384323
much harder due to multiple technical reasons
it's not like replacing remote batteries

>>57384300
x220
x230
t420
t430
xubuntu
manjaro

>>57383084
>I'd pay only $180 to $260 for one, since I'm a scheming bastard.
you're not a scheming bastard at all. That's the average good deal for one and considering a new 1TB SSD goes for ~250USD that W520 config is worth at best 450USD (no coa, no Win OS installed, oem 9 cell but might be worn etc)

>>57384300
i'd say t400-420, or x200-220, debian is good
libreoffice will take care of simple documents, spreadsheets, presentations, etc.
mpv for videos or vlc if you want a friendlier gui
organization im not sure what you mean by but debian is organized and easy to organize, in case that's what you meant
or if you wanna organize your life there's icedove for email, calendar, tasks, etc.

>>57384363
if its eligible

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What's a good price for a T420 or an X220 in britbong currency? The cheapest I could find on ebay was £120 for a T420 and and £140 for an X220. Are those decent prices for britain or would I be getting jewed?

>>57384426
>>57384469
Thanks for the advise

What docking station should I but for my t420?

>>57384300
I'm running my T430 with RHEL without issues, so Fedora would be a solid choice.

>>57384663
mini dock series 3

>tfw Gookovo removed the best feature from their docks for users that don't use their laptop as a desktop replacement

I miss the battery charging slot
Was really convenient to charge multiple batteries without having to swap at the end of the day

Would somebody answer my question? I am important.
t440p, i5, 8gb ram; worth $200?
[]yay
[]nay

>>57382677
Max. Storage is somewhere around 500 GB-1 (2?) TB. I might be wrong.

Also for thickness, I'll quote the buyer's guide in the OP:


"Make sure you get the Correct size drive otherwise it won’t fit!
Regular Size 2.5" 9.5mm SATA Drive:
T60, T60p, T61, T61p, T400, T500, T410, T420, T510, T520, T530.
X60, X60s, X60 Tablet, X61, X61s, X61 Tablet, X200, X200s, X200 Tablet, X201, X201s, X201 Tablet.
W500, W510, W520, W530.

Slim Size 2.5" 7mm SATA Drive:
T420s, T430, T430s, T430u.
X220, X220 Tablet, X230, X230 Tablet.

1.8" µSATA Drive:
T400s, T410s.
X300, X301."

Newfag here, never owned a thinkpad before but a friend is selling me his T520 with an i5, 320gb hdd and 1366x768 screen for $50, everything works already checked it.

He says that the screen is shit but i can upgrade it to full hd along with every piece inside easily, is this true? Is this model good? Anything else i should know?

>>57382677
go msata 1tb ssd + 4tb hdd + 4tb hdd or go home

9.5mm hdds

>>57385208
He actually is right. Do buy it, it's a great deal and with probably about $150 you can crank it up.

Never opened a ThinkPad myself even though I worked at a place where we serviced laptops and desktop PCs, but everyone claims they're relatively easy to service.

...much unlike HP's laptops.

>>57375560
You are fucked my dude.
If you got it on eBay contact the seller to get your money back.

>>57385331
HP eliteboks are pretty easy as well. You don't even need to use a screwdriver on the newer models to do basic things.

So I have a hookup through my company to get 40% off of a Dell laptop (think latitude/precision models). It's a small business so no bios passwords or any of that BS. What should I get?

>>57374791
What about dual channel?

>>57385208
Yep. thats a good deal. Unlike some manufacturers, Lenovo actually publishes the repair manuals that tell you exactly how to take it apart too.

>>57385286
>1tb ssd + 4tb hdd
>not2x 2tb ssd and 1tb msata ssd

>>57385386
Depends on what you need.

>>57385427
>2x 2tb ssd and 1tb msata ssd
>not 2x of those 16tb samsung ssds and 1tb msata ssd

>>57385480
it looks like those 16 tb drives arent SATA and they arent 2.5" either.

>>57385386
They gave me a 7470 for work. It's pretty slick, i5 8gb of ddr4 m.2 ssd. I think they paid like 1200. We just got a couple new precision 3510s which are drool worthy, xeons, 16gb ram, dedicated graphics. They were only 1600, which is actually a pretty good price

>>57385447
Mostly school and browsing. I have a good enough gaming PC at home, but when I'm out and about, I would like the option to do some limited gaming.

>>57385542
of course, considering the savings, the more power, the better.

Is the color calibrator on the W520 just a gimmick? Becaue it seems like one to me

>>57385542
Go for the latitude then, the 5000 series is pretty close in spec to the 7000 series, it just lacks the enterprise and premium stuff like support, probably a cheaper chassis and no nipple pointer

>>57384099
72Wh 6-cell battery
you can also get a shitty 3-cell bat that doesn't stick out

>>57385621
How shitty is the 3-cell? Like 5 hours use?

>>57385587
I don't see why you would need it more than once, so it seems like it.

Got myself a T500 today for about 80 bucks. It came with Win Vista. I want to eventually put libreboot on here and a good free distro. What would you guys recommend I have experience using (X)Ubuntu, Debian and Arch. Since I fell for the thinkpad meme is it perhaps a good idea to finally install gentoo or perhaps choose a fsf aproved distro.

What distro are you running on your ThinkPad?
Do you guys have coreboot or libreboot installed, if so what was your experience?

i am looking for wwan for my x220 tablet
which would you recommend me, anon?

>>57386030
I'm running Gentoo on my T430 and my W520. Any other distro of Linux just is a waste of time. That's not just my opinion... It's a well established fact.

>>57386169
Tethering from your phone.

>>57386254
but this is uncomfortable

>>57386308
Why? you always keep your phone with you anyway.

It's more useful to have a msata ssd imo but if you really want it get a WWAN pci card or an expresscard one.

>>57374324

Can i do this on a w530? Does all keys work?

>>57386355
>Why? you always keep your phone with you anyway.
I don't want my phone anymore and carry only x220t around

>>57386181
What's also a well established fact is that Gentoo takes ages to install and maintain.

You are a virgin. That's not just my opinion... it's a well-grounded assumption.

>>57384836
That seems like a good deal. Nobody else answered because they're probably scouring ebay/Craigslist to buy it before you can

Please can someone link me on ebay to the 1600x900 display and the display cable so I can upgrade my T420? I can't find them

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>decide to put an ips panel in my x1 carbon
>disassemble the whole thing
>burn my hands with the hair dryer
>put it back together
>the screen has lines on grey backgrounds
I'm fucking crying, /g/. I'm talking to the screen seller, but I don't want to go through the disassembly process again. My fucking fingers still hurt.

>>57387304
You mean like a grid every few pixels? That 's normal for some shitty screens

>>57387304
LMAOOOOOOO

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>>57387324
nah, in one corner of the screen it shows these lines, just a few degrees off from being vertical

they're not like a single pixel wide, more like waves

can kinda see it here when you zoom out

http://www.villageinstruments.com/tiki-index.php?page=ViDock

Can this work with my t60

X230T or x250 ? There's more choice for x250 and really scarce x230T thus them all being around 400€ and i feel like it's much for a x230T, but the tablet thing really seem nice, would i regret losing power just for this ? Is it actually useless ?

>>57387454
Why would you use that and not the Advanced Dock? Any card you use will be bottlenecked by your processor anyway.

>>57387375
Maybe it's because it's a 6bit scrren with static dithering? Do other colors show this too? Do medium quality JPEGs look like shit?

>>57387454
Maybe, but what would you use a Core Duo/2 Duo gen1 for?
>>57387645
Advanced dock can onl support low power cards and is one slot only

>>57387735
It's mostly greys, and is resolution-independent.

>>57387851
>Advanced dock can onl support low power cards and is one slot only
And like I said, whatever card you use is gonna get bottlenecked to shit by the Core 2 Duo. I have a T601F with a T9300 and an Advanced Dock with an R7 240, and in 99% of games I've tried, the bottleneck has always been the CPU. A base T60 with a T7300 at best will be even worse in this regard, as it'll also have the 3GB RAM limit, which might be an even bigger bottleneck depending on the title.

>>57386402

Yea, all the key werks, only problem is the capslock indicator dont light up

>>57386402
You have to flash a modded EC firmware. Could brick your laptop.

>>57387304

LOL, kys

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Would the 9 cell battery last for 5-6 hours of writing school docs on x201?

>>57387942

Yes, if you are a idiot loves eating paint chips.
You would have to try pretty fucking hard to brick a laptop during the 2 second EC flashing sequence.

What is the maksimum battery time with x201 on linux without wifi?

>>57387978
more like 4 hours if it's in good condition

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>>57388143
>9 cell
>4 hours

>>57388186
yes because new X201 9cells are so easy to come by

>>57388143
If I would use it in half brightness how would it affect the battery life?

How long are Thinkpads generally leased for by businesses?

>>57388380
depends on warranty plan
typically 2-4 years

>>57388380
Business warranties on thinkpads are 3 years, so my guess is they'll use them for 3 years then sell them on and get the new models.

>>57388468
So the **40 series are supposed to be getting sold off atm? I can't find many on ebay, only a handful.

>>57388295
Not as much as you'd think, CCFLs need a ot of power

>>57388529
They'll get sold off around April (start of the new financial year)

>>57388594
X201 is LED, not CCFL. Those died out after the X200.

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How is the DAC and amp in Thinkpads? Specifically the X220, T520 and T440 as these are the models I'm looking at.

I don't expect it to be brilliant but my phone (1+1) is able to drive my Sennheiser HD600 to a satisfactory level so I would hope a Thinkpad could at least meet that chinkphone standard.

>>57388684
So how much can I expect from it?

My T420's trackpoint acts up weird. It sometimes scrolls as if the middle button is pressed, but it is released.
Any ideas to fix it besides disabling the trackpoint?

>>57388975
I get 6-7 hours out of the 9cell in my X201s. The non-slim model is probably within 30 minutes of that.

Found a used t430 on ebay that I like, but when I asked the seller if it had computrace or a bios password set he responded in broken english that it didn't. (I had to ask twice to even get this response). Should I run away, or order it?

>>57389098

Buy it, if its not as discribed, then return it at his expenses. EBAY BUYER PROTECTION !

>>57389023
Fix/replace/disable the middle button?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00I7NV9LG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478300266&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=LP125WH2&dpPl=1&dpID=31JJRyU%2Ba6L&ref=plSrch

Is this what I should get if I want to upgrade my X230 screen to IPS? Is it possible to upgrade to 1080p or does that require a bunch of fucking around?

How comfy is this video 2:30 m in ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UKrrAq50t4
That music

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If I buy a t400 to use, should I leave it a stock or what are some worthwhile upgrades.

>>57389431
ssd, max the ram, cpu and the screen

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>>57389454
What cpu and what screen. Thanks for responding.

>>57389253
No use.

I heard you can put the T440 FHD IPS panel (B140HAN01.x) in the Thinkpad E440. Is it true?

>>57389490
P9700 and the WXGA+ 1440x900 screen.

>>57387269
please someone help

>>57389643
I used this one when i did the upgrade on my T420.

http://s.aliexpress.com/URjEzYji

>>57389426
Lol,I was watching the exact same video.It's absolute gold.

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>>57389564
One of these?

>>57389751
Yeah you could also try the T9800 and T9900 but they have 35W TDP instead of 25W. I mentioned the P9700 because it seems to be the most balanced one in heat/performance.

Is it safe to set the PWM of the T520 FHD panel to 1200Hz?

Did any W520 come with a sub-1080p display? I've heard someone say that the W520 only shipped with the wide gamut B156HW01 panel.

So if I buy a W520 off ebay and the display resolution isn't listed could it be a lower resolution panel?

>>57389796
Thanks i think the cpu you recommend is solid is this screen fine or can you link me to the one you meant
http://m.ebay.com/itm/231580665451

>>57387978
i get about 4-5 hours on my x201's 6 cell battery

>>57389912
Many came with 1600x900, some even with 1366x768

>>57389920
I think it should be fine, quoting thinkwiki these should be the ones:
>14.1 " WXGA + 1440x900 TFT (AUO, Samsung)
>14.1 " WXGA + 1440x900 TFT LED (LG-Philips, Samsung)

>>57389691
And where can I find the screen?

Welp I bought the t440p for $200. It's an i5 but the memory is 2 different sticks and the hard drive is total shit, the guy must have swapped it out for an old shitty one. No big deal, turns out these processors are upgrade-able. You think it's worth it to pick up an i7 and 2 sticks of 8gb, or should I just dump this thing on ebay? I figure I'm only $200 in right now, I can't get hurt

>>57384088
Useless drives aren't useless in an Ultrabase, caddy or external enclosure. RAM can go into the spares stash.

>>57390094
Thanks champ

>>57384469
I run Windows VMs on old T61s to run Windows software. Virtualbox works fine on a Linux host.

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I hope Lenovo turn things around and bring back the classic design, I want this Thinkpad meme to last forever.

>>57390101
You should go with the Alienware M14x screen, at least that's what everyone says.

Personally i went with this one, the N140FGE-LA2.
http://s.aliexpress.com/uMZbYBzy

Mostly because i didn't knew better at the time. Turned out to be okay, still shit viewing angles but at least the slightly blueness of the original screen disappeared.

>inb4 aliexpress shill
Muh worldwide free shipping.

>>57390259
They have so many series of Thinkpad now, at least have one of them a "Thinkpad Classic" series.

>>57390281
Wow, I just found used lp148wd2 in my city, they claim it from T420s. Can I get it to work in my T420?

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china batteries suck ass

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Can't decide between X220 and T520 bros.

>T520: larger display, more upgradable
>X220: better display (can be upgraded to IPS, whereas the good display for the T520 is impossible to find these days), a bit cheaper, better battery life?

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>>57390427
My counterfeit t420 9-cell chink battery misreports the charge too but actually delivers fine.

Pic related, the BatteryMon log while watching chink cartoons and for some reason stays at 6% for hours.

>watching cartoons at 3 am
don't judge me

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>>57390382
Well, that's a photo. Can it be used in T420?

>>57390427
Is that "new"?

>>57384615

pls respond

>>57384300
Used my T430s with mint until I got tired of it not recognizing SD Cards greater than 16GB.
Running LXLE now, I haven't tried to see if I can video edit with Sony Vegas, but photoshop and League work well.

Haven't messed with Wine/Office because idk if my keygen will work.

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So are the P70s good or should I just get a high-end dell?

>>57389098
I wouldn't risk it.

>>57390993
Yeah they are good, but you should define 'high end Dell' because I can say a high end dell is better with only one attribute
>XPS 15 100% adobe RGB

>>57390993
I have a P70 and it's pretty decent, good for work, can run ML/statistics programs on pretty large datasets, can max out BF1 with the quadro 4000M

It's a beast though in terms of weight/dimensions so if you're unless you're someone like me who moves from city to city every 4-12 months and doesn't want to ship a desktop, I'd just get a desktop. I actually use a T430 as my "daily driver" just because it's so much more mobile. The P70 is just for serious computing/gaymen

Anybody with a T420 running linux use the display port? What do you have to do to make it work?

>>57391180
plug in a displayport cable, faggot

>>57391180
if you have the dgpu and you disabled it in bios, displayport won't work

>>57385208
A steal for $50.

>>57391257
Why would you disable it?

>>57391257
I have optimus on with bumblebee but it doesn't detect the TV

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>>57391285
if you got fucked in the ass by nvidea or something idk

>>57391331
Why would you even get a laptop with a dGPU then

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>>57391308

>>57391345
why are you asking me dude, i'm not the guy with the dgpu

What's a newer version of a x220? or something around the price range of $250-260 that's on the lighter side?

T520 bros, what is the best current upgrade for the wifi card?

>>57391421
x230

>>57391440
Is the intel 6300 not good enough? You probably need a modded bios for AC cards

New thread:
>>57391604

>>57391356
>KDE

>>57391803
>guh nome

I have a x220. How do I make it so that i can use the trackpoint left handed and the pad right handed? Sounds stupid but it just works for me

Whats the best ssd compatible for with t400

>>57392656
Just get something on sale. Google it first to make sure its not crap though I think the Kingston V300 was shit or something

>>57392690
What do i search for it to be compatible size and maximum specs

>>57392720
Im sure any 2.5" drive will probably fit and SATA is backwards compatible so don't worry about it a SATA III drive will be fine

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>>57392777
Thanks ill buy a samsung then

>>57392777
>>57392720

I just looked up the T400 and its SATA II but like I said its backwards compatible so you just max out the SATA II connection

>>57392846
320GB 5400rpm 2.5" SATA HDD
160GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA HDD
200GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA HDD Available withFull Disk Encryption (FDE)
These are the specs i got from the thinkwiki

>>57392966
Is 320gb biggest i can use its plenty

>>57392966
Those are the configs that you could get when it came from lenovo you can put a 1TB SSD in it as long as it fits

So anything that fits Im really new to this but know what i want out of it so far got everything chosen but ssd