[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

For when planck length transistors

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 47
Thread images: 2

File: planck-scale.png (19KB, 412x233px) Image search: [Google]
planck-scale.png
19KB, 412x233px
For when planck length transistors
>>
>>57359785
(plank time year)^-1
>>
>>57359785
It is impossible to make planck length transistors.
>>
>>57359785
If we are able to make anything "planck length", we should have something better than transistors by now.
>>
>>57359959

Well then.
According to http://htwins.net/scale2/
the smallest lenght confirmed is 100 attometers

For when attometer transistors?
>>
>>57360132
Never.

Well before then due to quantum mechanics the electrons will just jump through the gates making them worthless.
>>
quantum tunneling is already an issue down at sub 5nm.
>>
>>57360205
It only happens randomly so there is a non 0 chance that they wouldn't jump.
>>
>>57359785
Never. Quantum computing will not be a meme by then and actually take over regular processing applications.
>>
>>57359785
how long is an electron?
>>
>>57362156
>It only happens randomly so there is a non 0 chance that they wouldn't jump.
So each transistor will only work properly some of the time.
Wonderful. Let's put billions of transistors that don't work properly all the time onto a CPU and see what happens.

Idiot.
>>
>>57363491
>http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news-Allowing-Errors-Makes-Chip-More-Powerful-Efficient-051712.aspx
>>
>>57364560
whoops, guess I'll go with the shitty article instead of the source that has moved
http://gizmodo.com/5911399/this-imperfect-processor-is-15-times-more-efficient-than-yours
>>
>>57364570
>allow errors
>waste 20 times more cpu time to fix them in software
>muh efficient cpu
>>
>>57360220
it's starting to rear its head at 10nm
>>
>>57364653
You don't need to fix the errors, there are plenty of applications that don't need perfect results.
>>
>>57359785
This proves we live in simulation of pixels
>>
>>57360132
kind of now, DNA is made of transistors essentially

future in bio computers with programmable proteins
>>
Using electrons rather than bosons to carry information.
>>
>>57359785
Assuming that string theory is true, then the ability to manipulate information at the planck length scale will be akin to performing mathematical operations on the universe itself. If we as humans can be said to do that, then we will no longer be humans; we will have evolved to a greater cosmic being that has obtained all information and is, therefore, all information itself. At that point, universal entropy will hit its maximum, as all information is in complete disorder, with no way to do any work. And yet, we will be there, the quantum interpolation of consciousness within an infinite plane of uniform energy. Will we then, perhaps, be able to create anew? Will the entire summation of all creation be able to redefine its own being as something meaningful, or will be simply dissipate into a bit, a final zero, to end the line of binary that seemed to stretch on for all of eternity? Only time will tell.
>>
>>57360205
>2160
>still using electrons like a pleb
>>
>>57360220
Quantum tunneling is a phenomenom that enables DNA to compute temporal/spatial requirements of gene expression.
You read it here first folks.
>>
>>57364683
Don't come bitching when your PC gets cancer.
Sure, DNA Polimerase and flow are good at avoiding write errors, but I'd be laughing at information cancer.
No, not data corruption. A mRNA so aberrant, it'll literally bloat your data.
>>
File: 1476620329658.gif (993KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]
1476620329658.gif
993KB, 250x250px
>>57364968
>information cancer
>>
>>57360059
we already have your penis at planck length
>>
>>57364667
And plenty of applications that DO. Imagine if it makes errors during malloc.

And it only improves power consumption.
>>
>>57366002

Power consumption is what generates heat. I assume they're talking about things like floating point math, and it's not like you do malloc with floating points on a gpu
>>
>>57366002
the article mentions that such processors would obviously useless for larger machines but could very well be used for simpler ones that don't require high accuracy. in those cases the lower power consumption could definitely be useful, but it is not the groundbreaking discovery the headline is trying to sell
>>
>>57359785
You do realize that the planck length is smaller than an atom, right?
>>
>>57366134
It would make more sense to implement in a situation where you will have many processors running the same/similar code so that they can basically error check by averaging or majority rule, but this would have to be done as addon processors and not the main processor in the machine, like your desktop CPU.
>>
>>57359785
I hate this interpretation of Planck length. Anything below Planck length is in the quantum-gravity regime, it does make sense. We can't describe it though.
>>
>>57364828
Just trigger a false vacuum and begin anew.
>>
>>57366497
Not physical sense, though. The scale is too small.
>>
>>57366201
>make many power efficient cores
>run the same task on all and use what the most cores get as the correct result

how is that more power efficient that just running on one good core?
efficiency/core is useless if efficiency/task is still shit.
>>
>>57366858
Not all of them obviously. It would depend on the error rate, which could mean as little as three running the same code.
Which they might do anyway as in some cases you might do anyway as it is possible for errors to come through other things than just your processor being designed that way.
>>
>>57366002
I think the more sensible application would be in things like GPUs. You probably won't notice 1 pixel being off in a thousand for 1/60 second, but with that much power saving you could probably do a lot more.
>>
>>57367142
I'm not sure how good an idea that would be. From the article
>and relative errors as high as 7.5 percent still produced discernible images.
The "still produced discernible images" part is what worries me. You can get a lot of corruption and still have a discernible image. You want it to remain indescernible.
>>
>>57366002
muh gaems don't :^)
>>
Positronic computing when?
>>
>>57369840
Excuse me sir but as a competitive gamer who only plays competitive games like le Global Offensive, anything less than 100% computational accuracy is unacceptable. All of my equipment is error corrected and hardended against solar radiation bit flipping
>>
>>57367069
well, such a setup with three cores running common code would have to be 300% more power efficient per core to even *match* a single robust core. Which doesn't seem feasible either way. And then it would still lose on having to use a fair bit more of die area and with that, manufacturing costs.
I can only see it being useful on such error-disregarding fields as video or lossy image encoding and that's it. Which is basically what the article was writing about IIRC (I read that article a long time ago so my memory on it might not be as robust... kek)
>>
>>57371642
>tfw SRBF is a legitimate concern at work

fuck the sun tho
>>
>>57364968
Just install Linux on your DNA, it will die of AIDS and disgust.
>>
>>57364674
you mean qpixels
>>
>>57364889
>2160
>1
>6
>0
>>
>>57371642
>CPU buried under feet of cement
sick gaming rig, bro
>>
>>57371849
>would have to be 300% more power efficient per core
According to the article, they are 7-15x more efficient, meaning 700-1500% more efficient. However it's true that just adding 3x as many processors does have a lot of other costs.
Thread posts: 47
Thread images: 2


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.