Comcast rolls out data caps to more states in the USA

>>57348525
I have a feeling this will go unnoticed by most of their consumer base.

>>57348525
Yup just got my notice in the mail. Mother fuckers.

>>57348595
It will, but it's still the beginning of a very very slippery slope of bullshit. Pretty soon we're gonna start seeing mobile data tier bullshit, and smaller and smaller caps with higher and higher prices for the same shit.

>>57348525
Uncapped Comcast in WA.

Sucks to be you I suppose...

>>57348611
I also forgot comcast has a monopoly in a lot of areas.

It's not like consumers will have much of a choice.

>>57348620
Look at the bottom of that list buddy. It just rolled out today. Check your comcast email.

I did all of my last minute data intensive things, changed my backup server settings to use more compression and backup weekly instead of daily, and switched Netflix and YouTube to 480p right before the end of the month. Also, I limited my brother's bandwidth to 6 mbps. I should be fine, I hope.

Is this comcast or spectrum? Didn't one absord the other?

This doesn't seem like a problem yet, but you'll all feel the pain when 4k is standard.

Anyone thought this could have something to do with the infrastructure being unsuited for millions of people streaming HD video all at once?

>>57348659
Not Spectrum. This only applies to Comcast Internet.

>>57348670
False. Capacity is not the problem here.

>>57348525
>Be ready for a bunch of sneaky overage charges.
https://customer.xfinity.com/help-and-support/internet/data-usage-exceed-usage

>We're offering you two courtesy months, so you will not be billed the first two times you exceed a terabyte, while you are getting used to the Terabyte Internet Data Usage Plan. This means that the first two months you exceed a terabyte you will not be charged for overages, no matter how much you use during those months. You will only be subject to overage charges if you use more than a terabyte for a third time in a 12-month period. If you use more than a terabyte two times or less in a 12-month period, your courtesy month balance will reset to two at the end of these 12 months.

>>57348525
Americucked

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>>57348656
>and switched Netflix and YouTube to 480p
I'm so sorry..

This makes me grateful for the things around me. I hope you have a choice in ISPs, if not then good luck.

>>57348659
TWC is not TW. Two different companies (this is what trips up people into confusion)

>>57348647
Actually, Washington has been at a 350GB cap for a while now.

And I'm still un-capped. It doesn't apply to all accounts.

>>57348738
Do you work there or something?

>>57348753
Nope

Further, I fucking hate Comcast. With a passion. But it's the only option I have.

>>57348525
>sneaky overage

I have at least 2 hdstreams going 10+ hours a day with 2+ torrents downloading while playing games. I've never even broken 250gb/mo.

If you're seriously usingmore than 1tb you are ABSOLUTELY doing shit you shouldn't be like hosting your own server.

>>57348620
For some reason Im still fucked in the tacoma area

>>57348778
Try satellite. Only option you have for cable maybe. (because of the deals your local government signs with them) Might be more $ and slower but........

My ISP is Cox, will I be fucked too?

>>57348789
>doing shit you shouldn't be
that's anti consumer right there

>>57348843
>Cox
>will I be fucked..
you just answered your own question

>>57348789
You are either exaggerating or lying. 2 HD streams at 300 hours a month would be 600 GB alone, assuming that the compression's fucking great.

>>57348810
I miss Tacoma. Click! was really good, unless you were on 6th between Union and Anderson.

Though Advanced Stream is pretty shit. Their "office" is on N. Proctor just past the bridge over Old Woman's Gulch, btw.

>>57348835
Nope. Too densely wooded. Which is fine I guess. Level 3 was going to bring fiber out here and would have ran it to my property line for $2/mbit for a 500mbit commit. But now they aren't.

>>57348525
>1TB
Does this include upload and download?

This whole data capping is a tired old meme left over from the mid 90's. Back in the early days of AOL and Prodigy network they used to rape customers on data usage. Then AT&T blew them out of the water with unlimited $14.99 a month internet. They just don't want to buy more servers. I use the fuck outta my computer with netflix, torrents, browsing 8 to 10 hours a day. I don't use anywhere near a terabyte in a month. TWC has been great.

>>57348904
Yes. Both upload and download are counted against the cap.

>>57348525
>capping broadband internet
Wew, why can't the FCC put a stop to this greedy bullshit? Why doesn't a "pro-consumer committee" exist to oppose changes that could hurt the consumer?
Not that a TB isn't enough, but this could easily be used as an idea to abuse consumers for pure profit
>TB data usage plan has began
>4 years later, Comcast weighs the average household data consumption amount
>lowers TB data usage plan to 500 GB data usage plan
>continues trend without modifying the price.
This is why I dislike companies like Verizon and Comcast, they're all business and because they've gotten so big, they give nearly zero fucks about the customer's needs and/or wants.

>>57348915
>This is why I dislike companies like Verizon and Comcast, they're all business and because they've gotten so big, they give nearly zero fucks about the customer's needs and/or wants.
Because they "know" you're torrenting.

>>57348915
In such states, the majority of the people this affects are stupid and don't care if they have a 1tb cap if it doesn't affect them. Time Warner tried to push data caps in NYC and New Yorkers said "Lol, you can take your caps and shove them up your ass."

It's not the entire state, it's a select few cites in said state. For example Houston has it but the city I'm in doesn't.

Good news then

http://www.consumerreports.org/telecom-services/how-easy-to-burn-through-1TB-data-cap/

Well done comcast
Possibly to make the caps more palatable, the company recently upped its data cap from 300 gigabytes (GB) to 1 terabyte (TB).

if 1tb is more than enough, why put it there in the first place

not giving comcast more money. since the data caps i'm cutting back all my services entirely. fuck media

>>57348704
>Terabyte Internet Data Usage Plan.
>Int
>ernet
>Data
>Usage
>Plan

Even legal is trolling the customers.

>>57348991
Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

>>57348850
He means piracy, moron.

>>57348956
Not sure why these company's are even bitching about this, Really how many customers use that much data?

>>57348525
i just really wanna know

who the fuck hits 1tb of data up or down

jesus fucking christ guys it's 1tb a month, what the fuck are you downloading?

>>57349029
it's up and down combined. If you stream any sort of content at all, good luck.

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>>57348525
>Louisiana
> Maine
> Michigan


>tfw no Maryland

Ah well, fuck comcast anyway, FiOS isn't much better, but at least I get symmetric speeds and no data cap in any states.

>>57349012
>because pirating can use 1TB of data monthly
desu seeding on private trackers wouldn't use that much data at all, only if you're trying to build ratio, but even then, you might not always be uploading

>>57349029
I live in a family of four. We do a shitload of streaming and Steam gaming. Also, my dad does 3D modeling and uploads over 20 GB of ZBrush files to his company server daily.

>>57349029
i used to watch twitch.tv and kept three streams open every day and exceeded 1tb every month doing nothing rlse

>>57349029
If you stream any 4k content as a single person it isn't too hard to hit 1TB, if you have a family of 4 then even 1080p netflix or other streaming will easily be able to reach 1TB.

>>57349035
i don't sit at my fucking computer streaming netflix and hulu 24 hours straight. it would literally take weeks of that to hit 1tb. i also download all my shows, roughly 1gb a fucking episode if that, 13-24 episodes a season. there's barely anything that ever comes out, and i also limit seeding on public trackers.

really. who the fuck is hitting 1tb up/down combined

>>57349051
log it. i really wanna know, is this seriously a problem? i remember when comcast had the 250gb cap years ago, and never implemented it, if they ever did it would've been a problem. but 1tb? jesus fucking christ m8 that's still a lot.

i'd been a member of black cats games for 8 years and never even hit 2tb upload, now 1tb download.

>>57349051
3D animators use a shitload of data, not just with 3D models, but huge images as well as super high quality video rendering.

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With most of the usa on 8Gbps or less It really doesnt matter

>>57349073
We hit 1107 GB last month according to Comcasts data usage meter. Our firewall reports 1102 GB. I'd say that the 1 TB monthly limit is actually a problem for families who use the Internet a lot.

>>57349095
yeah gl trying to convince people to buy faster internet when it means hitting caps faster. gg comcast fucking retards

>>57349073
>i'd been a member of black cats games for 8 years and never even hit 2tb upload, now 1tb download.
pretty sad desu, I'm on 4-5 private trackers and on just one that I have been a member of less than a year (11 months and 1 week) I have 5.15TB upload and 4.42TB download.

Throw in legit games downloads and streaming services on top of the private trackers and I easily average over 1TB a month.

>>57349115
pro tip: stop downloading torrents

>>57349138
There is zero torrenting on my network.

>>57348843
Not yet. I'm Cox too and I'm wondering when it's coming. The only other ISP in my area is ATT and they already advertise a 1TB data cap on their site. What fucking kills me is buying a faster service and paying more to ATT doesn't up the cap. What's the purpose of 100Mbps if you get fucked in the ass for actually using it?

>>57349138
4k youtube is 12-25Mb/s depending on the codec used (depends on the video).

So if you watched as a single person 3-6 hours of 4k youtube per day, every day (or averaged that much over a month) you'd hit 1TB just in youtube use.


Assuming you have anyone else on your internet and assuming they also stream in 1080p or similar qualities, you're going to have no problems breaking that 1TB cap every single month.

Does Att have data caps?

>>57349204
Yeah, they max out at 1 TB as well.

>>57349202
Why the fuck would you be watching 3-6 hours of 4k youtube?

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>>57349218
Didn't know that. Better start watching my bill

>>57349219
Why would people be watching 3+ hours of youtube?

Is there that much good stuff on it?

>>57349247
they just added it since comcast did now they can get away with it

>tfw you live in ny
>tfw all your isps are data capless
>Optimum = capless
>Time warner cable = capless
>RCN = Capless
>Fios = Capless

Comcast will be forced to stay capless by pure competition

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>>57349254
I'm a Directv subscriber. Does that get me unlimited internet?

>>57349263
Only in the states that aren't overrun by hillbilly-type people.

>>57349267
your service is to slow too reach a cap

>>57349263
New York City is the capital of the world, the rules are different here

>>57349219
I'm talking about averages.

I can easily watch 3 hours of streaming videos a day, i'm sure plenty of people can watch more than that.

On a weekend if i'm not doing anything i've been known to binge watch a whole series over the weekend just to finish it up.

Lets say I do that with house of cards on netflix in 4k. Netflix 4k is similarly around 25Mb/s, there are 52 episodes, 43-59 minutes in length, average that to 50 minutes. So 52*50 is 2600 minutes, divide by 60 to get 43.33 repeating hours, 25Mb/s*60*60=90000 megabits per hour multiply by 43.33 repeating for 3,900,000 megabits for the whole series. Multiply by 8 to convert bits to bytes and we get 312,000,000MB or 312GB

If I do that over 2 weekends and also watch a few hours of mixed 1080p/4k youtube/twitch/hulu/etc and you've hit your 1TB, especially when you throw in games downloads, and if you have multiple others also using the connection?

1TB is gone easily.

Internet online cord cutting house here. Started fully around 2011. Netflix/Amazon/Hulu/Plex Media Server. Big family of eight. Changing all content we consume to 480p still results in about 1.5Tb od bandwidth used per month. This is with drastic usage reductions on top of the 480p for any video content. A steam game can end up costing you an overage fee. We use Origin/Steam on five gaming rigs. Shit is crazy. I'll end up taking it up the ass for the same service for an extra fifty since it's still cheaper than business class.

I hope they die in a fire while being spit roasted by a peaceful BLM protest.

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>>57349281
>Implying
I used 3 tbs last billing cycle just by streaming Netflix and youtube

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>>57349305
My kids grew up on Jewtube. They have me by the balls.

>>57348789
>my NEET use-case is exactly the same use-case as a family of four streaming HD video

Get fucked, dumbshit.

>>57349305
over your head but i'd be interested in seeing how that worked out last i checked directv is dogshit tier slow compared to comcrap

>>57349326
DirectTV here uses Centurylink which offers the subpar DSL 10Mbit maybe 20Mbit if they bond both channels or can in your case. It's not even broadband technically. Upload speeds are at best 1Mbit. It's sad.

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>>57349297
>Lets say I do that with house of cards on netflix in 4k. Netflix 4k is similarly around 25Mb/s, there are 52 episodes, 43-59 minutes in length, average that to 50 minutes. So 52*50 is 2600 minutes, divide by 60 to get 43.33 repeating hours, 25Mb/s*60*60=90000 megabits per hour multiply by 43.33 repeating for 3,900,000 megabits for the whole series. Multiply by 8 to convert bits to bytes and we get 312,000,000MB or 312GB

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>>57349029
>who the fuck hits 1tb of data up or down
People who contribute over the internet. Say I want to help test nightly builds for Fedora. There's 12 isos. 32 bit and 64 bit for each so that's 24. My guess for average size is 1.5GB. That's over 1TB a month already.

Data caps fuck over the people who make the internet worth being connected to.

>>57349353
This too, I forgot about my arch ISOs I am distributing, easily a few hundred GB per month.

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>>57349073
>people are actually humoring someone whose argument is "it doesn't affect me, so it doesn't affect anyone!"

>>57349353
precisely this is why i'm cutting back all my comcast services they want to pinch heavy data users then i'll pinch them back

but it's not even about that. it's obviously a long term strategy to curb the competing streaming services.

in the end i'm reminded the internet is turning into cable tv 2.0 right around this time i check out and find a better use of my time. comcast ruined the internet.

>>57348525
West Virginia here, the only tow isps in my area have a data cap of 330GB per month, and 300GB per month. Thats with the 50mbps plan so its not the budget one.
with a relatives botneted laptop and all of their iphones and ipads with a million apps running we sometimes blow though the cap within the first week.

>>57348670
Im >>57349424 , with my isps, the problem is that they are both cable companies and they are buttmad that nobody wants to watch the shit tier tv anymore with its 25% commercials.
They try to make people bundle their internet with cable tv and a fucking landline so that they can justify having all of this archaic shit still hooked up on their grid.

The isp is complete shit too, at one point I was getting ddosed for several hours every single day. Phone support only wanted to try to reset the router literally 10 times then tell me the router is just defective and I need to schedule a field tech to come replace it, I then go into the local office with the fucking router logs showing a clear ddos attack, after an hour of arguing with him, he finally says
oh I know what this is" and then tries to tell me its because the fbi shut down that russian dns botnet.
fucking idiot piece of shit company.

Theyve tricked my grandparents into going to walmart and buying new routers twice, the router is separate from the modem and the modem wasn't putting out signal because a tech hooked it up wrong and left without testing anything. They flat out refused to check the modem and made them buy new routers for no fucking reason hoping by then the modem would just start working again.

>>57348525
>PA still not on the list
So when is this shit going to hit me? Why did they bring these caps back?

>>57349630
Because they found out that instead of upgrading the internet grid to match the current year, they could just throttle everyone back down to the 1990s and keep their same system.

>>57349065
this all day every day

college is fun

>Even if you're mid-cycle

I'm in a 2 year contract with them. They change ANYTHING about my plan, and it's a breach of contract.

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>>57349515
>They try to make people bundle their internet with cable tv and a fucking landline so that they can justify having all of this archaic shit still hooked up on their grid.

Seriously what the fuck is up with this? The only way to get higher speed cable internet here at a reasonable price here is to bundle it with $80/month worth of bull shit.

No I don't need tv. I have internet. No I don't need your overpriced VoIP I can do that for free on the INTERNET I'M BUYING FROM YOU. Maybe throw in a $1/month call 911 button or something just to make me feel a little safer.

I wonder how much of their potential bandwidth is wasted over carrying hundreds of channels of 24/7 commercials. I mean at the top layer sure not much percentage wise. But once you get to the neighborhood distribution you're talking about 150+ times 5MHz per channel. Assuming they get the same density out of that as 802.11g that's 1Gbps your neighborhood could be getting. That 1Gbps is wasted continuously. So kill it and add that to the data cap already.

>>57349904
I just told you, they are cable companies and they are buttmad that nobody wants fucking cable.

>>57349805
Looks like you're going to get throttled like a slim throated bitch.

>>57349904
>That 1Gbps is wasted continuously. So kill it and add that to the data cap already.
also as a cable company, they fell for the digital cable meme in the early-mid 2000s. They bought literally millions(billions?) of dollars in A/V stuff and they are not going to take the blame for their bad investments. As the customers, its us that is going to pay for all of their cable boxes, encoders, and other cable networking shit.

>>57348731
Well, at least I'm okay.

>>57349904
My VOIP line runs about 4 dollars a month for 911 service and taxes local and federal. It varies depending on where you live. Illinois for example it would be around 6-8 in taxes per month for a phone line.

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>People complaining about 1TB cap

I'd kill myself if that shit happened here. I need at least 10 TB a month because games are huge downloads, online gaming, multiple users on netflix, youtube and porn.

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>Northeastern US and Mid-Atlantic region Comcast markets aren't yet being capped thanks to seeing slightly more competition
>...customers in Comcast cap "trial" markets face a cap of 1 terabyte per month, after which a user can either pay $10 per each additional 50 gigabytes, or pay an additional $50 per month to enjoy the same unlimited data they used to. Penalties are capped at a maximum of $200 per month.

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-Usage-Caps-Expand-into-Dozens-of-New-Markets-Today-138239

>>57348525
>Chicago
>today
>1tb data cap
Nigga, we've had this shit since JULY, fucking retard

>>57348915
>Wew, why can't the FCC put a stop to this greedy bullshit? Why doesn't a "pro-consumer committee" exist to oppose changes that could hurt the consumer?

Because Verizon and Comcast have the money to buy anyone.
You might say your morals are stronger than money, but would you really be able to turn down a million dollars or a 12000/month paycheck?

>This is why I dislike companies like Verizon and Comcast, they're all business and because they've gotten so big, they give nearly zero fucks about the customer's needs and/or wants.

Think about it. The very reason they are the biggest is because they only care about the money. New trend? Do it for the money.
Is something is unprofitable, but about 1% of your users really like it? Is it costing your company more money than what those 1% contribute? If it is...Fuck them.

I would not be surprised to learn the reason Comcast has shit reliability is because they're using 10-20 year old infrastructure. They could upgrade, but that would lower profits.

>>57348915
Because most people are fucking retarded and once they figure out their botnet infested fridge, dryer, and dildos are using up 500gb of data a week it'll be too late.

>>57348967
>tfw I live in a Houston suburb

>that like to dislike ratio from comcast cucks

https://youtu.be/CE9OuNK-QWg

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>>57350064
Rural Ontario, where the Flex heavy plan is the best that I can get. $145 a month for 100GB, plus monthly payments to pay down the $250 router, plus overage fees because I blow through 100GB a month easily, the 17th is usually the day that I go over. The tiers are pretty funny, I'm not sure what they were thinking when they dreamt up this service.

>>57350144
>pay $10 per each additional 50 gigabytes

Try Canada where Bell charges $5 per GB

>>57350265

Hey look on the bright side, the CRTC hearing on data caps is coming soon and Bell is already paying everyone off saying caps help the internet be faster.

:)

>>57348525
FUCK CUMCAST!

>>57350188
>comments disabled

I have always found it ironic that, in the states, they just cannot put a decent broadband service together. Most service providers in Europe do not, now, have datacaps, instead they limit upload speeds if you use over a certain amount of upload bandwidth within any hour they will cap the next hour to around half. So if you go over uploads of over 500MB they will cap your UPLOAD speed only from lets say 10Mbps to 5. If you then still exceed the limit in that hour they will cap it to 2.5 and so on. Once you go one hour without exceeding the upload limits you get the full 10Mbps speeds back. Seems fairer to me than limiting download speeds or having to pay more for excess data

In Denmark you can get unlimited 4G phone data for 15$ a month, and you all have data caps on your home connection? Fucking USA

This is an increase for me I was in 300 GB cap before

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>>57350643

>Mobile plans

Nah, the US has decent mobile plans. Canada however...

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tfw this came today

>>57349038
What's wrong with FiOS?

>>57350727
>tfw google actually approached my city and asked if we would accept fiber and if the city would help google set up the infrastructure
>tfw my fucking dumb faggot fucking cunt mayor said no
new mexico is hell.

>>57348525
Why does this matter? 1TB is just overlook

> ever getting past 720 gb / mo with shit comcast

well meme'd friend

>>57350930
It takes less than 100 megabits per second to transfer a terabyte in a day.

>>57350864
Then fucking vote him the fuck out of office. If the boomer electorate won't do the same, vote with your feet.

>>57351172
Democracy is an evil, and it is everyone's job to boycott it and tear down the government.

>>57350833
If you remember ~2-3 years ago youtube and netflix were basically unwatchable on FiOS without using a VPN because they were throttling traffic and/or not installing the proper amount of interconnects to the youtube/netflix servers (not investing in infrastructure)

It hasn't been an issue in awhile, but i'm still salty about that.

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>>57348525

BURGERLAND LOLL


>Google gets buttmad that Big Boy ISP's like Comcast and TWC does data caps
>Launches their own ISP called Google Fiber to show Big Boy ISP's that Google can stay afloat with cheap internet and no data caps
>1,5 years later Google cancels Google Fiber because they didn't make money, thus empowering Big Boy ISP's even further because now Big Boy ISP's can just point a finger towards Google and say that Google went bankrupt on the ISP market

>>57349123
But if people don't upgrade, then Comcast does not have to improve infrastructure, saving them money.

I use maybe 200 gb a month, personally.

This does not affect me at all, though I can see it being a slippery slope very easily.

>>57348789
>hosting server
>shit you shouldn't be doing

Fuck you and fuck people like you.

>>57353526
How is streaming multiple HD streams and downloading torrents while gaming "hosting a server"

You're an idiot. Fuck retards like you and the ones who gave birth to you.

>>57348525
>Just a reminder, the following states now have a 1TB data cap under comcast
lmao, I use up 100 GB per day on a shitty 16 Mbps ADSL connection

>americans will defend this
enjoy your capitalism

>>57353547
>misses the point entirely
>calls others retards
He's just saying that hosting a server shouldn't be considered something you're not supposed to do.

>>57348789
>I have at least 2 hdstreams going 10+ hours a day with 2+ torrents downloading while playing games. I've never even broken 250gb/mo.
A typical HD stream is about 3-4 Mbps

2 streams * 3.5 Mbps/stream * 3600 seconds/hour * 10 hours/day * 30 days/month = 7560000 Mb = 945000.0 MB = 945 GB

You're lying. The streams alone would consume about a TB of traffic based on your claims, and if you download torrents on top of that you're easily in the 1-2 TB area

>>57353547
10/10 reading comprehension retard

>>57353617
I messed up my units, it should be 945 GB / month, not 945 GB

>>57353617
Further, netflix 1080p is 5Mb/s and 1440p or 4k would be drastically more.

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>>57348525
>people in the us have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for capped internet
>mfw russian and paying $4 for unlimited internet

>>57348525
>live in third world islamic hellhole
>no data caps
>no gives a shit about piracy
>can go to singapore anytime for first world needs since it's so close
feelsdecentman.png

>he doesn't get unlimited cable and internet with no data caps through charter spectrum
lmao poorfags get out

>>57353673
Are you that faggy Malay drawfag from /pol/?
If yes, what the fuck are you doing here on /g/?

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>>57353685
>unlimited cable

Fyi, you can pay Comcast $30/month extra to remove the cap.

>>57353725
it's $50

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>first world country
>with third world internet

Why the FUCK does there need to be a cap when they already charge out the ass as it is. Are we on a limited supply of internet or something? What the fuck is going on??

>>57353742
But why the hell is is the opposite in third-world shitholes?

>>57353753

Because they need something to distract the 3rd worlders from the fact that they live in a shithole.

>>57353753
good point, idk but its fucking bullshit.

I want my unlimited fiber connection and I WANT IT NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>57353753
later adopter

>>57348656
Lol I watch many hours of 4k content each week, youtube in 4k when supported. Feels great to be nordicuck

>>57353700
no, but I'd like to meet him though.

>>57348656
I would rather move to a different country than watch 480p

dear god

If I had Comcast I think I'd just ditch them and buy a hotspot with an unlimited plan and use that as my isp.

>>57354161
>what is ping

>>57354203
Stop playing League of legends its a bad game.

>>57354214
That's not the only thing ping matters for bub.

>>57354161
There are no truly unlimited mobile data plans left in the United States. They all do throttling, deprioritization or qos fuckery.

>>57348525
Why not change ISP ?

>>57353109
no they still have to upgrade to support businesses the difference is they won't get my money to foot their bill and the more they charge the more i cut back until they are so shit they get dropped completely

>>57348595
Nah, normies love to stream a lot so they probably will hit the cap

>>57354233
Generally quite quickly, too. You run into the "soft cap" at something like 20 or 30GB in a month, after which you can enjoy your 56k speeds.

>>57357373
Exactly. I can't believe that it's 2016 and we're slowly regressing back to the Internet of the early 2000's.

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>America

>>57352972
>>1,5 years later Google cancels Google Fiber because they didn't make money

Who would have thought that fiber doesn't sell well in Bumfuck Nowhere, Kansas full of old people.

>>57349904
Cable channels are transferred on different downstream carriers than the DOCSIS channels. VOD uses different downstream and upstream characters. The transfer of data isn't affected by cable TV.

Feels good to live on long island

>>57357750
I bet they also have the problem that the people who are most motivated to change ISPs to a new competitor are heavy bandwidth users. They're also likely to be savvier than usual, and they'll notice (and generate support headaches for you) if the speed isn't up to snuff, if there's packet loss or flakiness, etc.

The most profitable users are the normies with a mid-range plan who don't really use it. They rent the modem for eight bucks a month, don't stream, and wind up using maybe a few gigs a month. These people don't give a shit about their connection's technical capabilities, and the only reason they'd switch is to get a lower bill, if they aren't too lazy to go to the trouble, which most are.

It's kinda like the Obamacare problem, where the people who want insurance the most are the ones that are sick and aren't profitable to insure.

>1TB/month
>30GB/day

Just wait until the Fall when new seasons of TV shows come out. Everybody is going to bingewatch shows to get caught up for the new seasons and blow through their datacap.

>>57350064
Kitchener here, just upgraded my plan with Rogers to Unlimited for 80bux/mo :)

>>57353916
dkn 100/100 obegränsad för 200 kr/mån

>>57352972
>TWC does data caps
No they don't. I've had TWC 8 years Ohio. WTF u talking about?

>>57350643
I can walk across denmark in 10 minutes...........

>cancel xfinity double play service
>switch to economy tier internet
>get free OTA HD TV
no reason to pay for fast internet anymore, thanks comcrap!

>>57352972
Time Warner Cable does not have a monthly data limit on their Internet services. I regularly used 2 TB a month on them before I moved to the Midwest and got stuck with Comcast...

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>implying I'm using Cuckcast

Time Warner (or Spectrum?) is still fairly tolerable with no caps when you get past the random outages and them purposely sabotaging service on personal modems to get you to rent their shitty huge modems with an officially documented, non-working USB 3.0 port.

>>57359700
>and them purposely sabotaging service on personal modems to get you to rent their shitty huge modems with an officially documented, non-working USB 3.0 port.
can't you just get the official thing, stick it in bridge mode, and plug it into a real router?

>>57348525
>Michigan
Fucking niggers. I hope they like it when I download 900 GB of fucking garbage just to delete it now.

>>57348915
>This is why I dislike companies like Verizon and Comcast, they're all business and because they've gotten so big, they give nearly zero fucks about the customer's needs and/or wants.

You act like they competed their way to the top, when its just the opposite. The government handed out their contracts.

I know that its annoying when teenagers say it, but "Oligarchical Capitalism" is a real thing and they use the government everyday to their own advantage.

>>57359732
I do have my Time Warner modem set to "bridge mode" and have it connected to a proper router.

The main thing is that I'm now paying a monthly rental fee on top of my bill. My personal modem kept losing the connection to the ISP every hour, and it was getting frustrating. After an hour on the phone, some smart ass tech-rep told me that there was a "virus attack" on my specific model of modem, and I just said "fuck it" and got the rental modem.

It's either this or Cuckcast.

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tfw internet is free and uncapped here, although only 0,5/0,5. Paying 40 dollarinos for 250/100

>>57359829
Its too bad Americans aren't nearly as strong willed as we once were when we blatantly told England to fuck off with their shitty ass taxes by dumping their disgusting brown water into the Boston harbour, taking up arms and knocking some redcoats

>>57360027
Not sure what you're talking about. Majority of Americans did not want the revolution. Washington was the richest man in America when he was president and basically an aristocrat. White men without land (most white men) didn't get suffrage for a few decades after the revolution. It was not so much a revolution as an unofficial colonial nobility wanting a greater share of poor people's work. And they got it.

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>>57348525
It won't affect a single "normal" user and won't even affect 99% of "techie" users. 1 TB is a lot of data. For example, Netflix at 1080p streams at about 1 GB/hour. You'd have to watch 1000 hours of HD movies to hit that, and there's ~730 hours in a month. Even with Facebook, YouTube, and other shit, people aren't going to hit that cap with every day usage.

>b-but my torrents!
That's exactly why Comcast is implementing the data cap. There's a finite amount of bandwidth to be passed around in any geographic zone and torrent-users who surpass a TB/month take up more than their fair share.

They realized they wouldn't be able to catch every single pirate, but if they just implement a data cap that will only affect pirates it's nearly just as good. Honestly, it's kind of funny to see the reaction.

>>57360269
>Netflix at 1080p streams at about 1 GB/hour
You're wrong.

FHD netflix is 5Mb/s, 5*60 = 300 * 60 = 18000/8 = 2250MB or 2.25GB per hour.

720p is around 1GB per hour.

>>57360269
>>57360297
and just to add on to this, if you watch anything streamed in 1440p or 4k you're drastically increasing the bandwidth. 1440p is ~8-12Mb/s, 4k is anywhere from 12-25Mb/s depending on compression and codec.

>>57350146
Hello! I'm from Chicago. I'm super cute. :3

>>57360297
Sure, but nobody's watching 445 hours worth of Netflix in a month either. You'd have to spend several weeks watching it without sleeping to hit that.

>>57360316
Netflix doesn't stream 4k unless you specifically pay extra for it.

>>57360334
pls be my cute Chicago trap bf :3

>>57348525
>California
good luck

>>57348525
What? Comcast isn't even in Idaho.

>>57360340
>Netflix doesn't stream 4k unless you specifically pay extra for it.
I already pay for 4 simultaneous streams because I have a family, paying for 4 streams automatically gets you 4k as well.

Further, even with just 1080p, a family of 4-5 can easily watch 445 hours of netflix. Say 3 hours a day average on weekdays and 8 hours on weekends boom, 1TB. and that's not even including game downloads, youtube, other web browsing, my offsite backups I upload, or anything else I do during the month.

1TB is stupidly easy to hit for a family of 4 or larger, especially with heavy internet users.

>>57360351
Skype/kik?

Hyperboria when?

>>57360439
>Comcast in Idaho

>Comcast Service in Fish Haven, ID
>Comcast Service in Franklin, ID
>Comcast Service in Preston, ID

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>>57360449
2.5 people here

>>57360461
>only extremely small towns bordering Utah
So I was effectively right.

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>>57360449
>8 hours of Netflix on the weekends
Maybe you should spend more time taking your kids to the park instead of parking your ass on the couch, buddy.
I live in a four-person household (all of us watch Netflix, play video games, etc.) and the most we ever hit was 600 GB.

>>57360507
>the most we ever hit was 600 GB
>tfw I have uploaded more than that in a single day.
>tfw I have downloaded ~2.75x that in a single day.

>>57360523
That's what happens when you torrent lad, and that's why Comcast is capping your data.

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>>57360533
I have no data cap as I'm not a comcuck.

Further, because my ISP has no data cap, and offers faster speeds for the same price as comcast in this area, comcast has no data cap here either.

But their dogshit slow upload speed is embarrassing.

>>57360553
If you don't care then why even bother posting? It doesn't affect you so there's nothing to get worked up about.

>>57360566
Because the trend is retarded, there is no reason for it.

It's not as if bandwidth is a finite resource here. They need to be upgrading their infrastructure and this is a way to extend how long until they do.

They will upgrade eventually they have to or someone else will come in and fuck them.

When there is actual competition, they do something about it. Which is why comcast doesn't have data caps in my state, because there is competition here.

>>57360589
>>57360566
Further, comcast is also offering 1gbps service in this area to try and compete with the other ISPs.

>>57360589
The reason is that the majority of users never get close to datacaps. They know that the users who regularly hit 1 TB+ are people torrenting very large files and burdening the network normal users also access, and they're just forcing those users to pay extra for their much, much larger usage of that network.

>>57360473
How can I get detailed LAN usage information like that?

>>57360650
Then impose limits during primetime hours of the heaviest data usage.

The bandwidth pipes at 2am are NOT clogged with TONS of traffic, yet that traffic is weighted at the same as traffic during the worst part of the evening when EVERYONE is watching netflix/youtube/twitch/etc

It's bullshit

>>57360723
Sorry lad, looks like you're just going to have to stop uploading and downloading 4k Blu-Ray rips of movies every night.

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I got away from cuckcast years ago the second they started talking about any sort of data caps

I was lucky enough to find a local ISP that gave me a faster speed (110/40) for cheaper (and without the bullshit games that cuntcast plays by having a different amount on the bill each month)

My local ISP is fantastic. Haven't had a problem yet which is unbelievable since Cuntcast had regular late night/early morning outages notably one that lasted hours that also affected their """"""""""business""""""""""""""" tier service.


If you don't live in a monopolized area, get away from Comcast as fast as possible. Also, if you know the proper channel of abusive business practices you should complain. The more people complain the more of a chance we have to bring our overpriced heavily monopolized shit infrastructure to an acceptable level. Don't accept data caps on residential lines. We're not supposed to be a third world country.

>>57360768
as already discussed I have no data caps.

I'm simply stating, it's retarded and their "justifications" are bullshit.

cuckle fiber when?
I don't care if they sell my information to advertisement companies, I want some of that gigabit shit my dudes.
Fuck Comcast

Work for Cuckcast. One of the VPs said some bullshit like "100Mbit/s should be enough for anyone!". They arent investing in infrastructure and instead trying to rip people off with xfinity home. Tis sad times.

>>57360823
Sure, it's retarded for people who decide to torrent 1TB+ a month. As already discussed I'm just enjoying watching pirates get bootybothered.

land of the free

Bell Labs was a mistake

>>57350064
>using Bell
Lmao
Canada is fucked internet wise in every hole possible

>>57350673
Canada sucks and we have no "business" culture here so one or two companies bend everyone over and fuck them hard

I'm living in Taiwan now and holy fuck is it heaven, city wide free wifi that's faster than what I had in my home in Canada (during off hours at least) cheap phone plans with unlimited data, and gigafast capless internet

>>57360952
you're either a paid shill, a tech illiterate, or you actually are this stupid to think a legitimate user couldn't possibly use over 1tb in a month.

It's easy for any 3-4 person household, hell if you do a TON of 4k youtube and netflix streaming it wouldn't be all that hard to hit 1TB on your own.

1TB limit is retarded, it does nothing to combat congestion and that's the only thing that costs significant money to rectify because it means installing infrastructure. If you have a spike up to 40gbps at 8PM until 10PM, then throttling everyone to 1TB wont do a damn thing about that 8-10pm window.

Instead, limit data usage by time of day, during primetime hours of 7-11pm you have 1TB of data usage for the month.

12am-6pm however is unlimited.


There is no reason to put a cap on total data sent because it doesn't cost them anymore to leave the cable running, the fiber has been laid, the infrastructure paid for, to not use it is retarded.

>>57353753
Internet is a new thing so all their infrastructure is recent and competition is strong

>>57349138
Pro tip: fuck off fbi

>>57360713
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>>57360451
I d-didn't expect a response, it was only a joke...

I'm moving to Austin as soon as I get my Bachelors degree. Fuck Comcast, and fuck Florida.

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>>57348525
>Not using a VPN to a computer hooked up to Fiber to avoid the data cap.

>>57360952
Between me and my flatmates we use over 3 TB per month in traffic on fully legal content (streams, steam downloads, free porn, etc.)

>>57349630
Probably not soon, both comcast and verizon have fiber (not sure if they use the same cables), eliminating the need for it.

At least they do in the Philly metro. If anything though, they upgrade the infrastructure of their state before they try nationwide

>>57361470
This is /g/, nobody here actually knows how to use shit like VPNs and everyone's too poor to afford a good one (not that they won't try to justify it with shit like >paying to pirate).

WA here, just went from uncapped to 1TB cap but there's a 3 month grace period.

>>57348620
Received a notice last week up in Everett, selling the fact that I am now capped at 1tb.

>>57359964
>some smart ass tech-rep told me that there was a "virus attack" on my specific model of modem
It's funny because it was probably being targeted by a botnet.

>>57361647
there's going to be a massive shitstorm in 3 months.

>>57348525
>America
>where the prospers of innovation are completely null that a monopoly goes out of its way to impose made up and arbitrary caps to its service purely to charge more for the same garbage service

need to throw a riot for this shit its unacceptable

>>57349029
>no its ok to have made up caps because you'll never use that much
>please pay 5 dollars a gig over

LITERALLY JEWS

>>57361899
>implying you can pay for unlimited
You pay as much as before for capped internet and are charged per gig you go over

>>57361928
The point is that its a made up cap purely so comcast can charge more.

They already lied to congress a few years ago saying that the internet needed to be rationed then suddenly an engineer whistle blower reveals that the caps don't actually regulate anything and they're only there to charge more money

the fact that its capped at all is completely anti-consumer, anti-capitalism and they're only doing it because they have monopolies over entire geographic swathes of the US

Ex-Comcast employee here

Literally get another ISP, I quit because the company is THAT bad. My customers fucking hated me and our services, the prices are insane, data caps are shit. Your router is a hotspot for anyone to connect to and drive down your speeds. The internal system is so fucked that I couldn't deal with it anymore, 90% is outsourced to incoherent foreign idiots

>comcast's 95% customer disatisfaction rating
>no its the customers that are wrong, impose more caps

>>57361959
>Literally get another ISP,
There isn't any other ISP, comcast has a monopoly over huge parts of the US and theres literally nothing you can do

>>57361959
>Your router is a hotspot for anyone to connect to and drive down your speeds.
Some ISPs are doing the same shit here in Germany. Literally what the fuck?

Fortunately, business-grade connections don't suffer from the same bullshit.

>>57361959
>Ex-Comcast employee here
>Literally get another ISP, I quit because the company is THAT bad.
No, it's because you likely sucked at your job.

>My customers fucking hated me and our services, the prices are insane, data caps are shit.
Were you in customer support? If so, that's why they hated you. Also, people constantly state that they like the services but dislike customer support. In my region, competitors cost the same or more. They're all expensive.

>Your router is a hotspot for anyone to connect to and drive down your speeds.
Oh okay, you're just retarded.
The hotspot doesn't work that way.

>>57362169
Paid comcast shill

>>57362169
>The Hotspot doesn't work that way
Yes, it does. They don't reserve extra bandwidth for the Hotspot. It runs over the same infrastructure as your main connection.

>>57348835
Take it from someone who had satellite.

Don't.

>>57362302
Yeah I almost had to get satellite. Pretty much the only thing you want to get if you only have 56k available and can't even get reasonable cell phone data.

>Idaho
I didn't even know they existed here.
Either way, we have centurylink so w/e, 60mbps uncapped is better than 100mbps @ 300GB

>>57348525
Yeah, it was 300 gb. Now I won't blow the cap anymore.

>>57359637
>2 TB a month
on wat?

>>57362854
Streaming Twitch and Netflix, torrents, nightly hard drive backups with deduplication.

>>57348525
I wonder if Trump or Hillary would break up this monopoly.

>>57362897
>Streaming Twitch and Netflix,
Should't take that much with Netflix maxing at around 3mbit @1080p. Twitch about the same but depends on the streamer. Coming out to 30GB a day if you stream 1080p nonstop.

> torrents
Depends on the person but probably a lot of your usage.

>nightly hard drive backups with deduplication.
Just buy more HDDs and backup your own shit. Usually much cheaper per TB.

>Not Americuck
>On the queens land
>1gbps symmetric with unlimited data £35 a month

Oh i thought america is the great country in the world LMAO.

seriously get your shit together

your men are cucked
your internet are cucked
what next?

>>57363109
if you actually lived in the UK you'd know that's pretty fucking rare in you're in the top 1% of the nation easily

>>57359774
Detroit here. I just switched over to WOW after Comcast hiked my rate up another $35. No caps and a faster connection for a lot less than Comcast wanted to charge.

>>57348778
Try getting a Business internet plan. It's uncapped, only flaw is that all ports are unblocked (which might be a plus if you're hosting a website or game server).

>>57349176
Are you in Kansas?

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>>57348525
This shit is why I keep offline backups of everything I need.
I don't have data caps with my isp, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

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>5mbps shiternet
>non capped and also free

Ill never get faster internet till I move out. Try convincing an old person to give up free internet because it's slow

>>57364469
Pay for it yourself and it's still free to them.

>>57364491
I offered to do it but they still refused

>>57348525
>Arizona
Aside from Cox not being offered in their area, why would anyone in AZ ever go with comcast when Cox is far superior?

>>57353685
ye
>>57361447
Charter Spectrum

>>57348991
Naa, they just want to unlock the tie interceptor.

I mean it's fast and it's lasers are on par with the x wing, but it's lack of missiles make it pretty much a soft challenge mode.

Doing the volcano-missiles level with only lasers and very little shielding is balls to the wall hard.

Wisconsin

MOTHERFUCKER

>>57348656
you will probably only hit 600 gb doing this, switch the youtube to 1080 again.

>>57348525
>Illinois

#LICENSE2ILL REPRESENT NIGGUH

I get mine as close to 1TB as I can last month was 990 it's hard because it only counts once a day.

>>57349138
pro tip: stop fucking your dog, fanpai.

>>57348525
> you won't have received any notification except on your nonfunctional microsoft outlook email tied to your comcast account

they've been sending notifications by injecting <script>s into unencrypted web traffic, which I'd argue is worse than nothing since transparent TCP proxies are an inherent privacy violation

>>57350864
Welcome to the wonderful world of your public officials being bought and paid for by Comcast.

>>57348525
>Be ready for a bunch of sneaky overage charges.
for 1TB monthly caps? what are you guys transferring that much of in a month?

don't tell me it's torrents. you would have to be an idiot to be torrenting that much from your own connection. get your dumb ass a seedbox and avoid even having C&D complaints associated with your home/offline identity.

also how does this even work? i thought the FCC imposed some restrictions on non-mobile ISPs preventing this shit.

itt butthurt losers that don't understand the internet is a series of tubes and data caps are necessary af

>>57365256
*unless you pay $50 to subvert them

>>57348656
what?
you can stream 1080p netflix all day every day you won't hit 1tb

>>57348789
>hosting your own server

I get tens of thousands of hits a day and it uses like 1gb a month
web servers use fucking no data unless you're giving big ass video/picture serving

I also host it on comcast internet, non business. and I have done so for about 8 years. they don't care.

>>57365238
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/internet-data-is-like-oreos-isp-claims-while-defending-data-caps/
Back in April the FCC put a restriction barring data caps for 7 years as one of the conditions for allowing the merger of Charter and Time-Warner, but it hasn't done so broadly for all ISPs. Netflix is pushing to kill data caps, so there's some clout behind it but ISPs spend a lot of money lobbying and want to keep their oligopolies lucrative.

Charter ftw

>>57365338
ah thanks.

this is fucking weird. this is the second thread tonight where the people i've talked to have been mature, linked to relevant content, been constructive in conversation.

was there a mass banning or something in the last few days?

>>57353671
But you only make 10$ a month and spend all of it on vodka and track suits. So who's really the loser here?

God, I'm going to miss CenturyLink and its DSL when I move. 40Mbps for $23/month. Swear I'm not kidding.

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>>57348525
>artificial scarcity

The major ISP in my area is also the major cable provider. To lash back against people dropping cable for steaming, they introduced lower data caps on all packages, hiked overage fees to $5 per GB and then they made Netflix cost 3x worth of bandwith (Use 1GB, it counts as 3GB on your cap)

They played everyone for fools, even made an advertising campaign claiming that video streaming was much more harsh on the internet infrastructure, literally claiming 1GB of video causes several times more "stress" than 1GB of pictures or audio. So they were doing all us a favor and keeping he internet good and fast.

They ended up getting sued by the government regulator and had to revert it, but they left the lower caps and higher overage fees intact.

I'm not /pol/ but I swear these Jews...

>>57366946
I'm not racist, but gas the kikes race war now

>>57362222
Paid, but not a shill. I've had my problems with their customer service in the past.

>>57362253
The hotspot uses a separate antenna, it also uses separate bandwidth. Considerably less of it too, considering it's public wifi, and thus shit, just like all public wifi.
Everything runs over "the same infrastructure" as the main connection. It's the HFC network. Different things use different frequencies, ie. different downstream and upstream carriers. These carriers are reserved for specific uses. You should avoid spouting off about things you don't understand.

>>57364241
More on this? How much a month and who provides it?

>>57357797
Are they transferred over infrastructure not owned by the same company? Every physical layer I know of has a limited usable frequency range. Every digital modulation scheme I know of has can cram a certain data rate in to a certain amount of spectrum.

The transfer of data(tv channels) does affect the amount of spectrum on the infrastructure available for useful data(internet). Whether a current standard supports using that data is irrelevant to this. Standards can be rewritten. T

>>57348525

America, wtf is up with your data plans?

I live on top of a tiny mountain with two other house, there is one slither of road that scales down to town four miles away.

When winter comes this road is unusable and a guaranteed death trap, you'll slide right off and tumble down to your death.

We have log burners, still use oil for gas and spring wells for mains... And even I have unlimited fiber running at 80mbps, this doesn't even cost an arm and a leg.

Get your shit together.

>>57348656

It hurt my soul to read this

I just received the letter today.

Told me my monthly average is 770 GB. Additional GB usage would cost me $10 extra per 50 GB.

Literally what the fuck.

>google choose not to expand their fiber in the city
Fuck you.

>TFW making data caps is illegal in your country

>>57367994
>relying on Google for your internet infrastructure

sounds like you dodged a bullet there

>>57368072
well, dodged a bullet but still getting my arms/legs cut off by comcast

>>57348525
My comcast is $100 a month for 2mbs, I don't think it's even possible to hit the cap

Should I be worried if my ISP suddenly quadripled my internet plan from 3mb to 12mb without me asking it? I thought they just upgraded it because they don't feature 3mb plans on their website anymore. They do offer 6mb but it's just 10% less expensive so I don't know if there's any point to complain, I'm getting cucked?

>>57368173
My ISP upgraded me from 10 to 50Mb/s when they got rid of the 10 and 20mb/s plans.

I pay the same price as I paid for the 10mb/s so I can't complain.

>>57348525
I canceled Comcast a month and a half ago, best decision I've ever made: was paying like $60 for 10mbps (asymmetric) which was total crap. Now I have Cascade Link: fiber link til my building and then gigabit ethernet. 30mbps (symmetric) for $35, first month free, no contracts, no caps, 2ms ping times. It's beautiful.

Thank you Charter for buying bright house

>>57365238
>paying to pirate

>>57368216
Way back when AT&T got rid of their slower plans they upgraded everyone to the faster ones... on paper.

No one actually received the speeds their new contract promised.

I was stuck with 300kbps for so fucking long while paying for 1.5mbps. They refused to do anything about it. It took a class action lawsuit to get the problem fixed.

give comcast less money. the pencil necks who came up with this retarded shit will definitely take note of a drop in revenue corresponding with data caps even if it's only 1% every tiny bit is extremely significant to them. only way to get through is to cut your cable tv and use a lower speed preferably different service.