Russia to replace Windows

>>57346798
They're only doing this for politics. Putin is very distrustful of the west and has been wanting to do this for a while.

It'll never happen.

>>57346798
>doesn't say anything about GNU/Linux

Realistically they will probably use Macs instead.

What difference is this supposed to make? The russian government and military are the most corrupt in the world if anybody actually bothers to read the small russian media outlets who actually practice journalism. Russia is where you lose 30 15megatonne nukes.

>>57346798
Didn't Brazil just do the opposite? Now Linux has as many users as it started with.

>>57346844
delet this now

Is this the year of the GNU PLUS LINUX desktop?

>>57346838
I read somewhere a while back they are developing their own linux for government use and also an intranet. From what i understand you will need a computer running their specialized OS to access their gov LAN network.

Everyone is beefing up security for the coming cyber ww3.

>>57346798
incoming russian government official distro, Im using it as my main once it releases

>>57346867
is cyberpunk finally becoming real?

>>57346877
yes, learn to program and question EVERYTHING, cyber war is dawning upon us, cyber genocide

>>57346877
Yes, but it turns out it's just modernity with more paranoia.

>>57346838
>implying Russia could afford Macs

>>57346877
Were getting there.

Whats happening is governments have finally realized the best way to secure stuff is to simply start unplugging it.

If the hackers can't access the giant gov LAN they can't hack anything.

>>57346867
>Need special OS to access government networks
Most governments do this.

>>57346846
Russia is bigger than Brazil
>>57346844

>>57346798
>incoming onslaught of retarded patches being submitted to LibreOffice, Linux, Gnome, and other major OSS projects from shitty Russian programmers hired by Putin's cronies' companies who won government contract to deliver certain Windows and Office features missing in OSS counterparts

>>57346911
That sounds great T B H.

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>tfw you'll live to see T90s roll over Paris and Berlin

>>57346927
How is it great?

Buggy patches that maintainers aren't prepared to integrate into the mainline will just cause custom Russia-only forks.

>>57346947
I'm sure LibreOffice would love someone to reverse the docx format for them.

>>57346947
And to add a UI that isn't shit

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>Be Russia
>Change from Windows to something else
>Still the largest government and military corruption in the world
>Blame the new systems they're running
>Corruption
>Blame the computers
>I swear, Ivan, I didn't sell those tanks and missiles to those rebels, it was the puters!!

>>57347006
>not using ZFS

>>57346838
Homosexuality is illegal in Russia

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Russia has been pumping money into React OS, seems like they think is good enough to move over.

What if Russia is forced to make Linux equivalent of Windows Programs like office and photoshop?

>>57347247
It'd make much more sense to just pump money and other resources into GIMP and Libreoffice then making either of those from scratch.

>>57346798
It was bound to happen sooner or later.
>2017
>Using NSA/Windows

>>57346798
i just realized that a gnu was just a wildebeest. i'm somewhat disappointed.

>>57346813
>There are people who unironically think Russia isn't a western country
USA will cease being a western country long before Russia

>>57346798
>gnu
russia is going back to communism i see.

I'm surprised they didn't do this a long time ago since Windows is basically an NSA operating system.

>>57346904
>giant gov LAN
>giant LAN
>giant local area network

>>57346846
What did Brazil do now?

>>57346867
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_Linux

Homegrown Potato OS is advanced. Can use Lotus Notes 5. Very cut edge comrade.

>>57346904

Yeah but the gov can't really run anything without being connected to it. Also tempest attacks.

>>57346844

Wtf I love Russia now

>>57346798
putin pls maek GNU/HURD

>>57346844
At least they don't drop them accidentaly
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/20/usaf-atomic-bomb-north-carolina-1961

>>57346798
Looks like the US cannot freely spy on them anymore through OS backdoors.

Make LibreOffice great again

>>57346904
>WAN
>RAN

>>57346904
>If the hackers can't access the giant gov LAN they can't hack anything.
Apparently they don't understand what LAN means. Maybe they'll go back to using phone modems and disconnect the internet.

>>57347481
>wildebeest
Google how fucking stupid they are. They'll run through a river infested with crocodiles, stop, turn around and go back again. Doesn't bode well for the linux crowd.

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>>57348406
Okay.

Cлaвa нaшeмy coлнцeликoмy пpeзидeнтy!

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>>57348494
>Also tempest attacks
you rang?

>>57347383
LibreOffice is unusable. Like utterly unusable. It can't even do nested bullets properly.

>>57349121
If you need layouting you shouldn't use an office program like ms word or libreoffice writer, since both are messy when it comes to complicated formatting. There is latex for that. Just invest the 2h it needs to learn it and you will create much better looking texts much faster.

>>57349243

I'm talking about basic bullets. An unordered bullet list within a numbered bullet list. LibreOffice can't figure that out. I ended up using Google Docs and it just werks. LibreOffice is truly amateur and pathetic.

>>57346798
Smart move since microsoft is the sexslave of the us gov.

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a) Russians have their architecture, so they would drop off full of NSA backdoors x86 architecture.
б) Russians are known for stealing source codes, so they'll make once de-telemetrized Windows 10. Just watch.

>>57349642
w-will they open sauce it?

>>57349720
Comrade, no. Open source allow Americans to look and hack Russian computer. It's not good, you see.

>>57346798
They could finally put some effort into ReactOS

>>57349890
comrade Ivan, please. Its the right thing to do. Just make sure theres no fuckups. If you give a de-botneted source for windows 10 the world will love you.
Russians hack americans, but americans (citizens) are not interested in hacking russians.

Needs a cool name like DPRK's "Red Star OS"

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>ReactOS finally becomes usable

>>57346798
>2020
>the only choice in technology is Russian backdoored hardware/OS or west backdoored hardware/OS

>>57350099
The trick is to layer them. Run a western backdoored OS VM in a russian backdoored OS.
This way you're actually secure, since the US and Russia will never cooperate and share their backdoors with each other.

>>57350066
Windows, comrade, yes, make it open source. Nobody buy Windows in Russia anyway. Why buy thing if can download for free?

>>57348663
>somebody can't have basic human rights because he's born different way
I wish we treated autistic people like that so you finally see how's that

>>57350231
>somebody can't have basic human rights because he's born different way
Do you endorse pedophilia?

>>57350231
>born different way
>Implying

>>57346875
I might unironically do this if it's available, at least try it out in a VM

>>57350165
but open source windows, the original, so everyone can see how evil it is.
It will be a great habbening.

>>57346875
We already have a distro certified for government use, it's called Astra Linux.

http://www.astralinux.com/

Special Edition is certified, common edition is for public use.

That said, Astra Linux is shit and government agencies are resisting Linux.

Windows 7 is also certified, if used together with special software, even for working with top secret information. They are mainly achieving protection by working in networks physically disconnected from the Internet (or connected in one direction only).

>>57350330
>>57350353
Kek rednecks get back in your cuckshed

>>57349243
>LibreOffice is great!
>but it can't even do this basic thing
>You should be using LaTeX!
This is why free software on the desktop is still a joke outside of academia.

>>57350418
Are you running away from an honest argument?

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>>57350231
homophilia is a sexual perversion and mental illness that affects a tiny fraction of males

if we were talking about pedosexuality then that would be a different story

>>57349243
or instead of wasting time re-familiarizing yourself with that ugly as shit syntax every six months when LO can't do a simple thing that's expected of it, you can just use a real office suite and be done with it

>>57350428
How is pedophilia related to homosexuality in any way?
If children or animal knew what consent means, then yes, I'd support it.
I don't respond to garbage arguements.

>>57350482
Down's syndrome is mental illness as well. Not an argument.

>>57350485
It's been decided by your country that children can't give consent, and you're using that as an excuse to strip some people who were born differently of human rights.

It's been decided by Russia homosexualism is damaging to population, and they're using that as an excuse to strip some people who were born differently of human rights.

I don't see a significant difference here.

>>57350511
Welp I think age of consent should be lowered as well. 16 maybe.
>>57350518
Again, logical but highly unethical

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>>57350530
Age of consent should be brought down to preschool age.

There's nothing wrong with sex. It doesn't hurt anybody. Stop being a closed-minded bigot

>>57350530
>Welp I think age of consent should be lowered as well. 16 maybe.
That's not a response to my argument at all. I said nothing about age at all. 12 years, 10 years, 6 years, it does not matter, you're still stripping people of their "basic human rights" because they were born differentluy, using some excuse your country agreed upon previously.

>>57350503

Down syndrome is a physical difference based on improper protein folding resulting from the trisomy.

Faggotry is a choice.

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>>57350542
BUT BUT BUT

WE HAVE TO PROTECT WOMEN

THEY CAN'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES

RAISE THE AGE OF CONSENT TO 25 JUST TO BE SUPER SURE THAT THEY'RE READY

WHAT IF SOME CHILD TOUCHED A PENIS THEN GOT PTSD, ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, SCHIZOPHRENIA, BIPOLAR AND TURNED INTO A TRANSGENDER??!?! COULD YOU LIVE WITH THAT!?!?

>>57350578
>6 million
t-tanks

>>57350482
This really rustled my jimjams

>>57347536
I found the retard.

>>57350540
Nope. Fuck pedos and trannies.

>>57347998
switching gubment machines from linux to windows because supposedly free software = comunism

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>>57350578
>tfw touched a penis
>tfw turned into a transgender

now all we have to do is make a commit that 'accidentally' breaks russian security

wew nice meme

>>57350941
Nuclear weapon in Russia is handled by analog computers.

>>57346911
>shitty Russian programmers
Russia is not US of India, m8.
They actually have top notch programmers.

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>>57350967
Yeah, here's a couple

>>57347075
You say that as if it's a bad thing

>>57351027
If you want to live in a barbaric society, how about you fuck off to Middle East where killing is ethical?
Oh yeah, you enjoy using our technologies everyday and probably are anti-censorship.

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>>57346887

>>57346947
then i guess i'll have to learn russian

>>57346911
Russia has very competent programmers, far better than india programmers. Maybe with russia, libreoffice will have full .docx support since they might be able to reverse engineer the format fully.

>>57351035
Kaspersky and PVEStudio suggest they are top notch spammers and fraudsters at best.

>>57350518
>>57351027
>>57351120
Get off my website achmed and get out of my country or any western civilization if you love acting like a savage so much.

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>>57346867
North Korea did this years ago.

>Breaking News Twitter
Legit af

>>57347536
Low quality

>>57351374
>Kaspersky
They're on the same tier as McAfee, and that's Shit Tier.

>>57351465
Alright, now I see you're just an edgy kid trying to troll. Fuck off.

>>57351484
he is talking about KasperskyLab not the anti-virus retard

>>57351081
>If you want to live in a barbaric society, how about you fuck off to Middle East where killing is ethical?
>implying state-sanctioned killing isn't considered ethical in the US

>>57350578
>(((australian coalition of jewish feminists)))

>>57346798
RedstarOS ftw

>>57346838
>replace one American company for another
It defeats the purpose
Also, the Russian government has been very supportive of ReactOS for what I've heard

>>57348793
>Desktop is a seperate window and not permanently under everything

>>57346798
Didn't this shit already happen? They're making their own government OS I think.

>>57351276
>>57351035
that's true, but god we suck at UI and ergonomics so much
it's like we make the most perfect plane but you need to have 7 hands to fly it and remember 400 pages of manual or you crash it any second
and everything is like that, check out ISS tour
Japanese module is 4 times bigger than russian modules

>>57349642
that's modded sparc
Elbrus was fucked up, not sure they still going to make it, gov invested some money and there was progress but nobody heard anything about it for 5 years
probably money stolen and fab is not working

>>57351815
You goof that's a vm, you can see anon is running gnome

>>57350578
>cartoon lolis and straight shotacon harms real life children
>Jewish feminists
>6 million
I really hope this is satire.

>>57348464
>advanced
What does that even mean in the context of an operating system used to run sensitive government computers? How is Windows advanced for that purpose? Advanced lack of security?

>>57352148
So emotionally distraught.

>>57349503
>An unordered bullet list within a numbered bullet list.
But why?

>>57351770
>Also, the Russian government has been very supportive of ReactOS for what I've heard
I doubt that. Otherwise they'd already steal the windows source code and use it as a reference without giving a crap about "copyright violation", which is something ReactOS and WINE devs are trying not to do.

>>57351770
>replace windows with a shittier knock-off version of windows
:cryingsmiley: :okhand:

>>57346798
Further proof that free is communism

>>57352190
I'm not even sure if you're trying to express your own emotional problems or accusing me of emotionality for some reason. Whatever the case, I offer my condolences.

>>57352206
https://www.reactos.org/project-news/reactos-second-os-russian-governments-software-freedom-effort
>>57352216
They obviously prefer linux, this is in order to still run windows software

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>>57352223
free is...
...what makes you free?

>>57350586
>>57351599
>>57352101

It's a shitty meme by permavirgins from poltards.

>>57352101
You missed that it had a prominent Rustle drawing, as well as a few of the background lolis.

>>57351443
Nobody actually uses this in North Korea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuxlLLeKZZ8

Good watch.

>>57348610
They tripped on a rock

>>57350540
Your Fucking disgusting. What you can't get a girl your own age ?

>>57352743
>while beta male
>check
>gay mannerisms
>check
>condescending demeanor
>check
Yep it's a tech talk.

>>57352743
Gud bideo.

>>57346798
This is actually a very smart move by putin. There's no question Windows has NSA backdoors

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>>57352801
wow nice insult

i can't help it if little girls are so sexy

>>57350530
>tfw it's 16 in the UK

>>57350540
This looks shopped

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>>57350540
Wrong, age of consent should be restricted to only those sexual activities which can have negative consequences such as penetrative intercourse.
Sexual activities which only produce pleasure without any risks, such as sexual massages and onanism shouldn't need any consent except from the guardian or parent, just like any normal sport or other fun physical activity.

>>57352743
woah, so much bullshit

a phone in a country that has cellphones forbidden for one
students with laptops - some politicians kids

Just last year, filming a documentary, russians - another perspective.
They didn't know how usb drives work, everyday they asked them to give it to their KGB or whatever for editing and scrubbing of unwanted material and couldn't even guess that they could have several drives with copies.
Not to mention they still use firewood in the center of capital.
there was so many little things you cna notice only if you know what to look at when youa re fed propaganda bullshit in that country only russians would know
the shit is fake as hell

>>57346911
> patches being submitted to LibreOffice, Linux, Gnome, and other major OSS projects from shitty Russian programmers
kek.
> implying they won't just violate GPL
> implying they will bother with patches

>>57351443
That has malware in it.

>>57346904
Tell that to the iranian nuclear program

>>57351035
Russians are good at developing codecs and compression algorithms
Russians are shit at good development practices

>>57355649
Russians are literally god tier at anything that involves heavy math

>>57346904
this bids the question
what if intel and amd simply stop selling cpus to unwanted countries
pci-e, pcbs just limit imports
would it kill computing in targeted country?
china can say fuck you, sure, they still don't have working cpus though and you can pressure them by threatening to move fabs away
realistically how many fabs(that can't be pressured into submission by one side or another) can produce proper hardware? and can you make a fab without outside help these days?

>>57355678
This, all slavs are.

>>57346798
Russia is basically a nigger tier african shithole.

>>57355705
serbia, moldovia, slovakia, montenegro(are they slavs? I always forget) suck though

Didn't they also say they're getting off of American Intel and AMD processors and make an ARM chip (Baikal?) that languished forever in development and never got to the market (but probably made some Putin crony who got the govt contract to make Baikal very rich)?

>>57355764
It never will, it's all bullshit for the brainwashed average russian Ivan to feel good about 'the empire' whatever the fuck that is. If they truly wanted to move away from western tech, they'd start by banning the Apple products which most of the russian elite uses, including all government officials.

>>57355701
You seem to miss the fact that Intel and AMD are located in a capitalist country and if they stop selling, someone else will take their place.
In fact even if the US gov decided to ban specific countries that still wouldn't do anything because other countries would love to jump in.
The silly little american embargoes don't do shit when sufficient money is involved.

>>57355506
Oh hello there, Mr. Huxley.

>>57355857
>if they stop selling, someone else will take their place.
No in russia, russia lacks the required decades of R&D to manufacture something even remotely resembling the level of technology that the west had 20 years ago both in terms of CPUs and GPUs.

>>57355701
Unwanted countries develop their own, look at the last chink super computer

>>57355900
> the level of technology that the west had 20 years ago
Every Taiwanese ARM SoC can provide that.
> 1997
> Even Half-Life isn't released yet
> Win95 is the best home OS

>>57355857
U.S. embargo laws extend to products made with American components or foreign components made with American machinery.

For example, Samsung previously couldn't sell most of their electronics in Iran because of American embargo.

Smartphones contained Qualcomm modems, which are American, so Samsung can't sell those.

Even if Samsung used different modem supplier or made them themselves (which they eventually did), Samsung uses machinery from American semiconductor manufacturing support system suppliers like Applied Materials.

Those machines come with restriction that they can't be used to manufacture products that will eventually be sent to countries that the U.S. embargoed, and the user must pass on the restriction to its buyers, and the buyers to their buyers, and so on, to the final end user.

ZTE almost went bankrupt earlier this year after U.S. DoC kicked their ass to the curb after finding out their consulting business shipped some American-made computers to Iran while the embargo was still active.

>>57355934
>supercomputer
>consumer market
You're not a very smart man.

>>57355886
I'm sorry that reference is either too fresh or too stale for me. Please elaborate. At least tell me if you genuinely see flaw in my arguement or not.

>>57355900
But it doesn't matter if Russia doesn't manufacture them. Other countries can. Just because they won't be buying Intel and Amd doesn't mean the only alternative is russian made stuff. The EU has pretty good legislation when it comes to privacy so they would probably look there first.
But I doubt that the russian gov wouldn't be able to import the tech it needs to start producing at least decent-level hardware.

>>57355857
it worked fine in soviet time, russians smuggled from china a lot of things and not in nearly enough capacity
only intel and amd make cpus, and arm is UK licensed if they say no - nobody would be able to sell it risking a shitstorm for a pennies of profit from one shithole
to develop a cpu is a huge deal, even chinese gave up and asked amd for help
to build a even a semi modern fab is even bigger deal without supporting electronics, controllers etc.
i'm talking extremes here, like a real cold war, or a real real war

>>57351909
Intel keeps poaching their good engineers

>>57355934
>last chink super computer
all these supercomputers these days in 70% of cases built form gpus
all russian "supercomputers" are built on amd gpus/cpus, some on xeons

>>57350099
>not running chink backdoors

>>57355592
>Cause Russians never lie
:^^^^^)))))))

>>57355950
Huawei has been developing their own SoC's, as they also developed Loongsoon which was used in consumer shitboxes
Consumer stuff is the least relevant for a state that wishes to stop selling stuff to another country

>>57355949
Yeah man and technically speaking you can't export encryption algorithms outside the U.S. but that doesn't really work in practice.

You can create a company that buys from a manufacturer and sells to an embargoed country then, when it's found out and that manufacturer refuses to sell to you anymore because he is under obligation you just dissolve the company and make a different one. There are plenty of ways to get around something as fickle as an embargo.
I remember some big french bank payed a huge fine of like 1bil$+ because it broke some embargo, which is considerable, except that they'd been doing that for a very long time which makes the embargo itself nowhere near an impenetrable wall.

>>57356027
you are retarded, russians know the whole GLORY TO THE LEADER bullshit first hand, specially film director types, and know how things were on tv even in 1989
how it all seemed great and peachy but in reality deficit of food, clothes, under performing factories, factories making useless shit for fake economy, importing wheat while showing on tv how great harvesting goes
soviet union didn't fall apart because of a few tiny decisions

>>57355999
The chink one is built completely from chink technology, using homegrown CPU's and a homegrown architecture, the only thing non indigenous them is the ISA since they use MIPS
Intel was banned from selling certain Xeons to them

>>57355955
>Intel and Amd
For consumers, there's literally no alternative, russia will never ever achieve the level of the US in terms of technology.

>>57356097
>Answering this shit to me
>implying it's an argument against biased russian shit
>calling me retarded

Ayyy don't give a shit about (You).
Ps:
Fuck you!

Apple caused this, when Apple MacBook and iPhone sales fall to nothing and professionals start switching to Linux, thats when companies are going to realize that dont need to ride the MS shit train anymore either. The year of the Linux desktop may have been a joke before, but just watch, MS and Apple will fall like dominoes.

>>57350898
Your ass. They are doing it because it's easy (read: cheaper) to train fags to operate Windows machines than Linux. This plus Microsoft support.

>>57346813
>very distrustful of the west
99% of /g/

>>57356285
t.tinfoil

>>57355974
There's RISC and MIPS which are free from most licensing issues, also not even a single country would care about licensing in total war, cloning western technology would come back, Russians used to clone DEC stuff back then
Also there's much more CPU manufacturers than AMD and Intel, even for x86
The Chinese didn't give up, they already have competent modern CPU's developed with state of the art tech, they made a deal with AMD to expand even more
They already have their own fabs and modern architectures, and there's a much more massive amount of indigenous controllers and other ASIC's
>>57356086
The encryption export ban was lifted after the PGP guy won in the courts exporting it as free speech in a book

>>57356369
>The encryption export ban was lifted
when was this ? I have the official docs which are only like 1-2 years old

>>57356086
You can use shell companies to import a couple IBM minicomputers here and there like they used to do back in the Cold War days, but importing 10M units of Intel Core-i5 through shell companies without getting detected is impossible.

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Thanks to /g/, I would have never met my love Ubuntu.

>>57356419
Ok, that was a weak arguement, but my main point was that the US is not only source so it's embargoes aren't omnipotent because of that.

The fact that the US can enforce an embargo is because they are the lead manufacturer, but their position in the lead depends on having access to big markets, if they were to embargo a large market like Russia it is only natural that the need for electronics there would be filled by someone else, somehow. This guy >>57356369 says china but I'm sure many companies in Europe would love to jump on a big untouched market if given the chance.

>>57351080
He's saying they wont use macs because macs are for fags and there are no open fags in Russia