Are laptops really necessary anymore? Everywhere you look you

>>57333591
>On most modern laptops
Don't you mean on most laptops? It's hardly exclusive to modern ones.

>>57333591
Go outside.

thing of it this way
most people dont need rx480
most people dont to intensive tasks
most people dont need to upgrade their screens cpu or gpu
youre saying these people shouldnt buy pcs at all? and do everything on their phones?

>>57333591

just depends on the person, if you need to use word or excel on the go using your phone is a shit option, if all you do on the go is browse and text then you can probably get away with no laptop

for the average non gamer person just having a normal laptop alone with no tower is probably the best idea

>>The only thing they really have going for them is portability but Android phones have pretty much replaced most of the functions you used to use laptops for desu
>touch screen keyboard
>no desktop programs
>small screen

laptops aren't meant to be upgraded.

buy sturdy laptop refurbished for 300 bucks, ride it til it dies or is too obsolete, rinse repeat

I've had 3 laptops in the last decade, never been too behind the curve to notice (don't play games) and have spent less than 1000 dollars total on them

>>57334890
That doesn't apply to x30 and lower Thinkpads.

It's one of the reasons why /g/entoomen like them.

>>57333591
>On most modern laptops, you can't:
>>upgrade the GPU
>>upgrade the RAM
>>sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding
>>upgrade the display
>>easily clean out all the dust that accumulates in your heatsink

Name one era when you could do this on most laptops.

>>57334971
See >>57334971, The x20/x30 T and W-series can do all of those.

>>57334970
/g/aymen like them because they're built like tanks and cheap enough for their broke asses to afford
I don't think upgradeability matters when any unupgraded modern laptop is better than the most upgraded x30,

>>57334971
I forgot to delete "upgrade the ram", most laptops can do this even today.
>>57334985
Those are a few models, far from being "most laptops". Also see >>57334987

>>57333591
Did you fell for the ultrabook meme or something? NORMAL notebooks have swappable eDP displays, RAM and HDD at the very least(I personally never encountered the ones with upgradeable CPU but they probably exist in some gaymen ones). Throttling is hit or miss. Mine can sustain furmark+prime95 on stock frequencies, with sometimes turbo boosting.

>>57334903
Most people should be able to just dock their phones and use it as a PC on a traditional monitor, yes.

>>57333591
I have a gaming laptop.
It's default clock speed is 2.6GHz, boosts up to 3.6GHz.
I can upgrade the ram, display, clean out the dust

If you're buying crap hardware you're the only one to blame.

>>57334985
*meant see >>57334970

>>57334994
He said name an era, i named the era of those laptops.

>>57334987
Well true nowadays doesn't matter much but it's possible and on their era it was fucking great, there's also the "running 3 drives at the same time" thing.

Also as a fun fact you can slap a 2760qm on the old t420 and get like 66-70% or so of the 6770hq performance which is supposedly the best laptop cpu nowadays. Of course it's not viable for extended workloads but it's possible.

>>57335037
OP was complaining that "most modern laptops" don't allow to do that stuff, I asked to name an era when such a thing was allowed by most laptops. The truth is, it was never allowed by most laptops, just a few select ones. Best thing to do is to buy milspec laptops though, those are expandable and easy to clean.
Also what do you mean by "extended workloads"?

>>57333591
yes

>>57335037
>>57335065
Also wasn't the GPU integrated on X30s?

>>57335017
>gaming laptop
>don't buy crap hardware
>implying

>>57335065
>Also what do you mean by "extended workloads"?
Well that, running the cpu at full speed continuously for an extended period of time.

Using a quad core CPU on a t420 with cooler designed for a dual core CPU will lead to heat and throttling issues. The T/W5xx shipped with quad core CPUs and adequate coolers though iirc.

>>57335076
Some had iGPU or iGPU with nVidia dGPU but it's upgradable via ExpressCard, you can shove a desktop gpu there.

>>57335093
Dunno about laptops but "gaymen" CPUs and CPUs are the cream of the crop - only the silicon lottery winners can be overclocked to any meaningful degree.

>>57335123
>gaymen
>cpu
anon...

>>57335093
Yes, you're implying I bought crap hardware.
Amazing.
What if I told you, you're completely wrong and your head is so far up your ass you fail to realize what progress is?

>>57335143
>>>/v/

>>57335139
Sorry, I don't speak memes.

>>57335162
Maybe that's more of a place for you, anon.
I'm not the one memeing like crazy right now.

>>57335172
> gayman laptops
>>> good
The man with the Precision laughs.

>>57335200
Don't you think it's really time to stop with the memes, anon?
You're not impressing anyone

>>57335235
Thats not even the same anon.

>>57333591
and Tesla Roadster can't reach 202 kmph normally.
wtf i hate tech now. Stock up TP X220.

>>57335244
Great, then we have more than one tech-illiterate person on the board.

>Desktop at home

you're stuck at a desk and all you get in return is manchild gaymes and some other useless multimedia shit? Desktops are for work. If i'm not doing serious CAD I don't want your fucking gaymer tower.

>laptop at home
Real OS
usable keyboard
usable screen
portable

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>upgrade the CPU
>upgrade the GPU
>upgrade the RAM
>sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding
>upgrade the display
>easily clean out all the dust that accumulates in your heatsink
Thinkpads can be upgraded and cleaned, EASILY.
/thread

>>57335290
If you don't need serious power (for gaming or things like rendering) then the best setup is a laptop and then a docking solution that includes external monitors, keyboard, etc. at home. It's just a no-brainer.

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>>57335275
>owns a gaymin laptop
>calling others tech illiterate

>>57333591
If you never travel or have to take your work home or overseas, you're right. Laptops are obsolete.

But I use laptops all the time because I travel, I need to work on the go, and seriously fuck typing on a phone or tablet.

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>>57334971
>>57333591
It's funny because you can do most of these on most laptops during any time period within the past 2 decades, and it's only gotten easier as time has gone by.

>>57333591
More people go outside and need portability than the ability to encode videos. Hard to imagine for people with autism spectrum disorder I know. Android phones are not good replacements for normies.

>>57335433
>Android phones are not good replacements for normies.

Tablets are good enough.

>>57335457
What's a good bang for buck laptop/chromebook/tablet?
Around $200.
Use case will be mostly for porn and shitposting in bed.

>>57335467
It's good for taking notes with a keyboard.

As someone who uses laptops almost exclusively... yes.

Unlike a desktop, they are portable.

Unlike a smartphone or tablet, you can use them to do actual work. The only time a tablet comes close to the productive capabilities of a laptop is when it has an attached keyboard and Windows or Linux installed.

>The only thing they really have going for them is portability but Android phones have pretty much replaced most of the functions you used to use laptops for desu.

Yeah. Nah. Editing documents on a phone sucks. Writing programs on a phone sucks. Many video games on phones... just suck.

>It just seems more logical to have some flagship phone and a desktop at home. This is coming from someone who will sell his 15" 2013 macbook pro and assemble an i5 6600K + Rx 480 micro-ATX desktop build.

I use a laptop and no desktop. Only reason for a stationary computer is when you need an assload of computing power. For gaming, graphic design, some server work maybe, I can see a point. Otherwise, the Core i7 6700HQ in my laptop does a pretty damn good job at most productive tasks I need done.

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>>57333591
>6600k
Enjoy your no-gains

>>57333591
Writing on phones with big fingers is a bitch, so is posting pictures and watching 10 threads at the same time.

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>>57335275
> owns a gayman laptop
> calls other tech illiterate
HA HA HA, OH WOW

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>>57333591
>sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding

speak for yourself homie.

this is in a vaio that's a little over 1/2 inch thick

Laptops?

>take up less room
>have everything you need incorporated into the device
>are portable
>can be stuffed into a corner for 20 years and everything still works

They have their cons sure, but we're still going to be using laptops for a looong while yet OP.

>>57335007
That would be the most practical thing to do, but the average person wouldn't know how to do that. A lot of people don't even know how to use a computer to the extent where manufacturers need to set most things up for people, like preinstalling Windows. Unless manufacturers advertise and sell products to utilize a docking system I doubt it would catch on. They wouldn't though since they would make less money.

>>57333591
I like using a laptop in bed for being lazy w/ skype calls, and also watching anime / downloading / etc. in bed.

Find me a way to do that with a desktop and I'm sold.

>>57334921
>for the average non gamer person just having a normal laptop alone with no tower is probably the best idea
It's a pointless investment. Most people don't need the mobility of a laptop and they can get the same performance of a laptop for a fraction of the cost with a desktop though.

>>57335408
Source: my ass

>>57335275
0/10 bait

>>57335290
>>laptop at home
>Real OS
>usable keyboard
>usable screen
>portable

To be fair a mini-itx A8 APU build has those qualities.

>>57335300
How do I upgrade the GPU on them, you fucking retard?

>>57336324
OP meant situations where the CPU will remain at or near 100% utilization (like video encoding).

Go run prime95 on your turd and come back crying how it dipped to 2GHz.

>>57336416
>>take up less room
>>have everything you need incorporated into the device
>>are portable
>>can be stuffed into a corner for 20 years and everything still works
That's literally what a mini-itx build is.

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>>57337517
you mean like this?

keep talking like you know something.

>>57337668
That's pretty close to 2.5 GHz and you're not showing the frequent times it dips below 2.5 GHz.

Anyway that's still shit especially for gaming. A lot of games can now efficiently use more than 2 threads bow so your overheating FPS would constantly be bottlenecking the GPU.

Also have fun with your laptop CPU dying in a few years from constant overheating.

>>57334961
Where to get refurbished laptop and recommendations?

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You plebs mad? Raw power and weighs 4lbs

>>57338219
>having stickers on your fruit
fucking pleb

>>57338136
Why not just do a $150 AM1 build?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LmpPzM

>>57338219
>2016
>playing WoW
kys

>>57338234
touche

>>57338219
>Raw power
>constantly overheating
>can't play BF1 at max 1080p settings and get 90-100 FPS

>>57338253

I had a breakdown and resubbed but within a week I sobered up and immediately uninstalled.

Right now, it is exclusively Civ 6 and Star Citizen Alpha/beta..

>>57338248
Cuz I need to bring it on an airplane.

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>>57338268

Overheating? See pic related. Stays cools as a cucumber when I am in long gaming sessions. You may need to go read some more material on modern computing hardware my friend. Stay mad.

Also, I rape BF1.

6th Generation Intel Core i7 6700HQ (2.60 GHz)
GeForce GTX 970M 3 GB
16 GB Memory 1 TB HDD 128GB SSD (PCIE Gen3x4)
15.6" FHD eDP Wide View Angle 1920 x 1080
15.35" x 10.47" x 0.78" 4.20 lbs.

>>57338314

All of that for the same price of a much higher spec PC and a simple notebook with GNU/Linux.

Gaymers are truly retarded.

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>>57338383

My friend, this is a simple indulgence for the elite ruling class. A trinket if you will.

Nothing beats a desktop, which I also own.

I like moving my computer around the house, connecting it to different displays and speakers. There's also a lot of things that you need to do on the go, but can't do on a phone.
Plus they're cheap so there's no real reason not to have all three.

>>57335007
>What is Continuum

>>57335530
What laptop do you have?

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>>57338219
>4lbs
>not even 6,6lbs
>pic related
Are you even trying?
This bad boy have i5-520M 2.4ghz and turbos to 2.93ghz with 8gb ram and 80gb ssd
Do note that this can take some damage and operate at -20 celsius
>muh gpu
Get EXP GDC for 40€

>>57337082
Enjoy your chronic back pain

Expensive gaymen laptops are basically dead/dying. Laptops for casual gaming and browsing the internet are doing okay I think the market is just fully saturated.

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>millenials don't know old notebooks and even desktop PCs had soldered down ram, cpu, gpu, fpu, and even ROM storage. But everyone was fucking okay with this.

>all these newfags who whine about non-soldered IHS on Intel CPUs probably never seen Core 2 Duo era processors

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>On most modern laptops, you can't:
>>upgrade the CPU
>>upgrade the GPU
>>upgrade the RAM
>>sustain high clock frequencies above ~2-2.5 Ghz on the CPU when doing intensive tasks like video encoding
>>upgrade the display
>>easily clean out all the dust that accumulates in your heatsink
>pic unrelated

In all seriousness, if that's what you're into, you could always get a compact bluetooth keyboard for note taking on your phone for classes or whatever reason you might have. I'm a poor uni student so I feel for the thinkpad meme and bought one, but I love it so I can't really complain.
Flagship phone +
>https://www.amazon.ca/1byone-Foldable-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Smartphone/dp/B00VRCKK1Y/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1478017123&sr=8-4&keywords=bluetooth+compact+keyboard

would be pretty good i think. Sounds like something I'd love to try

>>57335007
this will be the case when smartphone manufacturers finally run out of meme functions to sell their new phones

>>57335290
>>laptop at home
>usable keyboard
>usable screen
lmfao, those are the very reasons I choose a desktop. Full-size keyboard masterrace, external monitor masterrace.

>>57335106
>Some had iGPU or iGPU with nVidia dGPU but it's upgradable via ExpressCard, you can shove a desktop gpu there.
That's hardly an "upgrade" though, it's more like docking. You're almost turning it into a desktop by doing that.

>>57335530
>Only reason for a stationary computer is when you need an assload of computing power.
Or comfort. Using a monitor which you can adjust to the most comfortable position, using a mouse, using a full size keyboard with tall keys are all reasons to prefer a desktop as much as the performance reasons.

>>57338700
This lmfao. My brother does exactly that, and you look at him and he's hunched while using the laptop. He also misplaces his hands, I expect him to develop carpal tunnel syndrome eventually.

>>57337397
>It's a pointless investment. Most people don't need the mobility of a laptop and they can get the same performance of a laptop for a fraction of the cost with a desktop though.
I agree. They end up using its mobility anyways for different reasons, but most of them don't really need it.

>>57338659
>i5-520M
>2016
lmfao this better be ironic shitposting

>>57339467
>>57339537
i got a desktop and a laptop for school, it's pretty useful for note taking but that's about it. i got a docking station for my laptop to use at home in my office but i'm lacking peripherals for it to be 100% useful, so i might ditch double monitor setup since it's garbage for my neck and use the second monitor for the dock, and i bought another keyboard to use. ill pick up a cheap mouse and use it there too and it should be comfy

>>57339162
>meme functions
what did he mean by this?

>>57339692
That is basically turning it into a desktop tho

>>57339782
this, lmfao

>>57339765
Vr
Muh thinness
Shitton resolution

>>57339811
Shitton resolution is good for displaying text and VR. And VR is good so you don't need 2k$ dedicated helmet for it. JUst hook toyour PC and good to go

>>57339782
i know lol
my desktop is my main computer where i do gaming and retarded shit, my laptop is for important shit like work & school so i carry it around.

>>57339811
Oh, those are truly memes. I thought you were going to bring up stuff like GPS/GLONASS.

Other phone memes I often see:
>muh apps
>muh finger reader

Exclusive to Android:
>muh processor speed
>muh ram

My normie friends shit on my Z10 because "it has no apps". When they say this they are talking about shitty stuff like Snapchat filters or similar meme BS.
Of the easily available phones the only ones I'd gladly change it for are Q10, Passport and maybe iPhone SE.
As for the apps, I have a great SMTP client, capable browser, office suite, PDF reader, whatsapp, waze, mega, winrar, and even some games. It's compatible with most Android apps (although I don't install the ones that require Play Services). It's also quick despite having only a dual-core running at 1.5GHz and 2GB of RAM, because it isn't a resource hog like memedroid. I don't know what else I could need.

>>57339923
You don't know how ARM cores work, anon.

>>57339923
fingerprints are for secure payments and gowernmental databases
RAM is for bloated web and Ruby """apps"""

>>57339977
>You don't know how ARM cores work, anon.
Nice digits, but what did you mean by that?
I was referring to how new androids are all about having 190 cores, one gorillion gigahertz and a terabyte of ram while still being slower than the competition with less powerful processors.
I first realized this when the N9 was just out and it was faster than the flagship samsung of the time while offering better multitasking.
Nowadays iPhone has the lead on being quick even though Android packs the most powerful hardware.

>>57340019
Ram is also for bloated OS like Android is. It simply has too much overhead to do anything with a modest amount of resources.

If you can't understand the appeal of laptops then you're probably a NEET who only uses their PC for gaymen.

>>57340139
ARM cores are basically blocks that carry diferent instruction sets and various codecs and cryptoprocessors. Also, their MEGAHURZ is the highest frequency available but they don't clock that high because of heat issues and powersaving. Both iOS and Android run fast on iPhone and NExus/Samsung flagships, but slow down after update. That's becasue newer versions are suited for newer haardware and have planned obsolescence in mind too.

>>57340229
iPhones use much lower end CPUs though and they run faster
A friend of mine has a 5S and it's lightning fast. He used to have a 4S and it was great but the battery capacity was too poor. Meanwhile my friends with Android phones have to do factory resets once in a while to keep them usable.

>>57333591

Do you work for a living?

Many people use notebook computers on business trips and while commuting. They also use them in work environments which require that a computing terminal be carried from one place to another easily.

If a notebook computer is well designed, and then well-configured by the user, there is almost never a chance for overheating.