/hpg/ - Headphone General

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With a soft budget of $100 and a hard budget of $150 what is a good desktop amplifier to power headphones and Polk T15s?

Are surround sound 7.1 audio headphones a meme?

>>57327654
Yes. A bad one at that.

>>57327654
Yes, unless you have 7 ears.

>>57327654
Yes. The headphones actually do nothing. Its entirely driver based. Whether those are installed on your PC or are done via a dongle/adapter is up to your choice.

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Seems like the best place to ask.
I have YST-FSW100 subwoofer, pic related.

Manual says it needs a line level input.

Can I just hook it up to the amplifier's recorder out?

the mesh/screen/filter whatever falls out from earphones
>what do
>is it bad using earphones without them
This shit constantly happens when I try to clean any earphones with a cotton swab, why the fuck aren't these screens metal and melted into the plastic

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Small question for you mates.

As people who spend hundreds of dollars on quality headphones, do you wear the same in public or opt in for cheap, low quality IEMs instead?

>>57327833
>tfw imagining a fatso with HD600 blasting autistic music through his open back headphones on public bus

>>57327833
$1000+ headphones here, got $200 IEMs

>>57327916
>$1000 headphones
tell me a story anon

>>57327833
I wouldnt take any of my full sized headphones out because thats an easy way to get mugged/shit stolen. IEMs are good because theyre discreet and a lot harder to just grab and run.

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Do you need some kind of amplifier or something for Sony HDR 7506s?

>>57329130
No.

>>57327833
I'm not a faggot iThing's generation child, then I don't listen to music in public to show off my stuff. Pardon my rudeness.

>>57329181
Are they shitty headphones to listen music on? My buddy is giving me his tomorrow. Not sure what to expect.

>>57329369
They sound good to every person that doesn't mind random treble spikes and not overwhelming bass.

>>57327833
No cables are too long for the most part.

>>57329401
I used to have monster headphones that were fucking disgusting. Bass was just so incredibly blown out and sounded like an overall disaster. It washed out every thing else.

>>5732944
Sony MDR 7506 is a different planet from that.

>>57327833
HD 800 at home, ER-4S on the go. ER-4S is the better sounding one but I prefer circumaural open back for comfort over the canalphones and I use EQ with both.

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>Budget
60$/55€
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Mp3 player, android, pc.
>Preferred type of headphone
In-Ear
>Comfort level
Comfortable, will be using them in bed.
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-V6
Koss Porta Pro
ATH-AD700X

Mainly looking for decent isolation.

>>57327833
I have about $1200 of audio gear, I prefer to use $10 JVC marshmallows when oot and aboot
They're not shit, they're cheap and they're disposable, that's why I buy IEMs so that's why I buy $10 ones

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Reporting in with my £52 headphones and £37 dacamp

Good pair of headphones on a $120 budget?

>>57330775
Decent amp but those headphones are shit, bassy, gaming tier.

Buy hd600's if you can ever afford them.

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Location: US
Price range: 50$-65$
Type: closed
I need something with a detachable cable.

I have a ATH-M30 I bought a few years ago. Anyone have any thoughts on them? Should I upgrade?

>>57332163
>Should I upgrade?
Why, are you not satisfied with how they sound? Are they broken in some way?

>>57332248
I dunno. I feel like they're getting softer and occasionally I hear crackling.

>Budget
Below 100$
>Country
Not US but it's not relevant since things are more expensive here and I prefer to buy online.
>Source
Only PC.
>Preferred type of headphone
Anything that isn't an IEM. I'm tired of In-Ear.
>Open or closed
Better closed, I live with other people
>Comfort
Comfy/10 enough to wear them for hours. I don't have big ears so I doubt it's much of an issue, but there's also weight.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral if possible.

I skip previous headphones because most are extreme poorfag stuff.
I've been looking at Sony's MDR-7605 and MDR-V6 for a while but I heard that both have a shitty frec spike somewhere. Also lookin' at the Senns HD280.
I'm going to use the headphones for listening different genres of music and learning SONAR.
Also looking for something that lasts a couple of years.

>>57332863
Could be the connection, either the plug or the cable.

>>57332875
HM5/XPT100 or Takstar Pro 80 if you can still find it for sub-100. HyperX Cloud I is the same thing with a detachable mic, plus a couple other accessories, and should cost about 70 bucks. Add HM5 pads for maximum comfy.

>>57332901
Oh yeah I also looked at the XPT100s. They look good enough for me.
The other two are quite expensive at the moment though.

Do headphones get a decent price slashing in Black Friday? Because maybe it's smarter if I wait until then to buy something better. After all, it is in 26 days.

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Are these any good? If I drop $50 more what can I get for good quality?

>>57333202
M40X if you stretch real hard, or HM5/XPT100. This is assuming you want closed.

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>>57327426

/hpg/ What headphones are Huma Abedin Using ?

and has she dropped the 3.5mm TRS like the rest of the dark beings of the underworld ?

>>57327833
I bring HD800's out in public, try and stop me.

Does ReplayGain fuck with dynamics?

>>57333233
>tfw no huma gf

>>57333233

Jaybird X2.

I tried them and found them uncomfortable with every size of earbud and fin.

Just got Bose Soundsport and they are comfy as hell and sound great with better isolation than the X2s.

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>>57333743
The Jaybird X2s are wireless.

>>57333233
From this vague and blurry picture, she could be wearing anything with an ear structure support like the Parasom R2, Vomach Earhook, or Honstek X7.

>>57333834

Oh yeah fuck I am retarded.

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>>57333844
We're all retarded, anon.

Will ticking Prevent Clipping in Peace be enough to save my nutsack?

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>in uni
>left ear starts ringing for 5 seconds

Is this the start of the end

>>57333997
That happens to me all the time. If you didn't have those before now, you have a gift. I've been told that the ringing is a cluster of nerves in your ear dying or something. You've got plenty left though.

>>57333997
>>57334029
Nevermind, I was lied to.

>When the outer hair cells put energy back into the vibration, it’s called positive feedback or “saturation feedback”. The process is meant to amplify very quiet sounds more so than loud ones. Most of the time, it works great and you go on with your life, not noticing anything out of the ordinary. However, biological systems aren’t always flawless. Occasionally, the amplification level of one or more outer hair cells will go awry and as a result, the whole system will erupt into spontaneous oscillation.

It's not harmful.

>>57334051
Nice. I have always been careful with playing volume too loud so I was scared for a moment.
Usually at 35/120 (no eq) from X3ii to SE535.

>>57334069
Same here. I don't understand how my friends can listen to their shitty gas station headphones at full volume when I can barely go over half before i start to worry about my hearing. And my hearing is STILL declining. Fuck my life.

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>>57327891
>tfw leather dude blasting metal music through IEMs(!!!!) loud enough whole bus can hear

I witnessed it myself.

Okay, I think i'm going mad here.
Been switching from 32bit 44.1 to 192khz for 20 minutes through direct sound of windows10
wasapi another story, why does "push" sound better than "event"?

so 192 defiantly sounds better than 44.1 high and mids are the same but bass is muddy at 44.1
why? can anyone try and tell me i'm not mad?

Testing on hd600s.

>>57334090
closed headphones?

I never used closed.
And my hearing got better, seriously some magic - I can hear what happens in the kitchen 10m away now with headphones on at moderate volume. Couldn't before.

>>57333668
Some bad implementations of it yes. If it works correctly, it just adjusts average volume of the tracks played and doesn't adjut volume within the track.

>>57334587
Sampling rates of 44.1 KHz and above won't have an effect on sound on itself, especially not on the low frequencies. Something else is going on assuming this isn't just your head playing trickery with you. Headphones you use are irrelevant as should be the API(unless there's a bug of some sort).

I once used the Astro MixAmp which was hooked up to my PC using optical SPDIF. I could feed it with different sample rates and the sound would be drastically altered depending on the setting that was used. It was almost like switching between different EQ presets in media players. I never understoond what caused it.

>>57334587
>can anyone try and tell me i'm not mad?
I feel the same way but other fucks don't understand so I keep it to myself

Just ordered a Jotunheim/w balanced DAC.

>>57334587
Forgot to mention I'm the same anon who told you to use WASAPI. But I fucking hate people who upscales to DSD64 or DSD128 and etc. Those ppl are fucking idiots.

>>57334587

direct sound is software mixing (fucking with the sound so you can run you bluetooth headset between browser and games seamlessly)

wasapi is bit for bit perfect audio meaning you are tied to that aplication (superior)

anything else you here is related to dithering (how things are resampled between bitrates)

when you chuck all 3 in you will get confused....

tldr source is everthing

get back to the purest sorce

For any european citizen looking for a good open headphone, Amazon.it has some nice deals right now:
1) Sennheiser HD598 special edition (the black one) : 119€
2) AKG K701: 148 €
3) AKG K702: 149€

Αre sub 50$ in-ears a meme?Should I even bother with any of them or just save more money to buy more expensive ones?

>>57334090
>Have genetic tinnitus
>Work in poorly db-regulated warehouse
>Banking on roborg ears/medical tech advancements
>DT770s
Turn it the fuck up

we dyin' anyway.

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>>57334587
> bass sounds muddy
> hd600

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I'm able to get these decently cheaper, are they any gud?

>>57335720
They're decent, but extremely overpriced.

Do you guys use any bars visualizer while listening to music? Do you think that watching a visualizer while listening to music is a safe, reliable way to check how close the headphone is to the source?

>>57335821
How would that work?

>>57335964
Consider the height of the bars and try to figure out whether your heapdhones reproduce the different frequencies at the expected volume. Of course it's not an accurate way to measure the heaodhone's frequency response, but at least you can see which frequencies are louder compared to what the visualizer shows.

>>57335821
You can't possibly hope to do analysis in real time with graphic visualizations while using music which is extremely an complex and wide bandwidth waveform. I use one but only for interest. Your best way to analyze the headphone's neutrality is to listen to a logarithmic sine sweep through the audible frequency range(roughly 20-20 000 Hz) of frequencies and spot any difference in volume while the pitch goes up(peaks or dips of louder or quieter sound).

>>57335994
> logarithmic sine sweep
Where do I find one? I know that audiocheck.com has some files to test headphone, but they din't have a complete file sweep. I need something to indicate the exact frequency while it's rising.

>>57335984
That's like doing monitor color calibration by comparing it to a shitty printout of a color table.

>>57327741
well, you could. but you really shouldn't. line out is just an analog output of the audio, the output of the amp can be to loud and blow the circuit..
if you don't turn it up to 11 you'll be fine though

>>57336013
You could build it in parts from audiocheck, preferably a sweep that is slow enough for easily find out what is going on in the higher frequency range. Sinegen is a program which lets you adjust a sine tone frequency by yourself. Not sure where you can create a sine sweep without paying. Some DAW programs probably let you if you know how but I can't be of help here.

>>57327741
You can but your subwoofer's volume wont be adjusted while you turn the amplifier's volume knob to adjust the loudspeakers. If you do this connection, remember to use very low volume on the sub as full line level signal is going to get amplified by an extreme amount on the sub's end. I accidentally hooked my sub such a way once. Didn't break anything but fuck me was it loud. Sub is rated at 111 dB max but that was way louder and distorted.

>>57336096
What about this log sine sweep here?
http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_sinesweep20-20k.php

>>57336305
That 20 second sweep is good.

>>57336322
Unfortunately there's no way I can tell which frequency is being played though. Are there free and reliable spectrum visualizers that tell the exact frequency played?

>>57336358
Oscilloscope

Honestly though this is why Sinegen is useful. You know exactly what frequency is being played when you adjust the slider.

>>57336375
Ok thank you.

wasapi in mphc for videos? can it fuck up synchronization?

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Sony MDR-7506,
Little bass-heavy but they sound nice

>>57333267
there's a good man. i wear akg k712 pros and carry an o2 amp

Is Etymotic ER-4 the most balanced sounding audio product in production today?

>>57336451
Were you successful in doing it? I'm having troubles with making it play in exclusive mode. Because the crackle and pops. I'm using the latest mpchc nightly and both latest lav filter + madvr.

Another person is having trouble with it here https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/5855

How to change buffer for mpchc?

>>57336691
Certainly has the most neutral response and best accuracy on the diffuse field without the aid of equalization. To me that means a very balanced sound but "balanced" is still somewhat subjective. The ER-4B, S/SR, PT and XR are all slightly different but the tonality is close to one another. IMO the best sounding headphones/in-ears on the market at any price.

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Are there non wireless Bose around ear headphones anymore?

I tried to look in the website but all the gears with wire seems to be discontinued.

>>57336912
You can use the modern Bose headphones with wires(comes in the package) if you so desire but why Bose?

>>57336931
I tried some Bose in a department store and I liked how it sounded. However I don't need wireless function. I also consider getting a Panasonic model.

>>57336482
I think they could use a boost in the bass so theres more impact, cause they sound flat as hell, in a bad way. maybe its cause my pads are shot.

>>57336985
Are you sure? The bass is really heavy
Some distortion however with lower frequencies

>>57336997
I tested a few bass heavy electronic songs. theres plenty of bass, but it gets muddled up with anything else thats going on. the instrument separation is rather poor. good detail, but dull to listen to.
try them with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNro8yRZ000
and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADoSHHCBc4s

>>57336701
worked out of box for me in exclusive mode no artifacts in sound that I can hear

do you have internal audio switcher disabled? if not try that might be a conflict of some sorts

>>57337907
Yes I have it disabled.

The one in the Internal Filters>Audio Switcher>Enable built-in audio switcher filter (requires restart). Yes I have done it also had restarted PC.

What DAC Amp combo do you use?

>>57338027
smsl m6
it has CM6632A async usb chip same as in modi and tons other dacs

>>57338065
O2+ODAC Rev A.

>>57338027
hm, what windows do you use?

>>57338081
Windows 10 Education N.

>>57338076
odac is a bit outdated, better usb chips didn't exist in 2011
mine is usb device with a driver(class 2), might be the problem with class 1 like odac
can you try motherboard sound? if issue is the same then it's mpchc to blame

>>57338118
It's the same on Z97 motherboard.

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is this the best for its price

>>57338129
oh, weird
other two little things in playback options
disable windows sound and disable all effect checkbox
no idea what else conflicts

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>Budget
$100
Willing to spend a liiiiiiiittle bit more but I'd rather keep it around there.
>Location
USA
>Source
Origen+ thing
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open provides greater sound, doesn't it?
If that's the case I'll take that. Otherwise closed.
>Comfort
Quality > comfort

pls help and preferably within 2 hours

>>57338140
ask yourself once again do you really want tube amp?
personally i'd hate to have hot iron all the time near me that sucks more power than my whole PC

>>57338174
What sound signature do you want tho

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>>57338187
Not the guy, but that's kinda the appeal (as well as visual).
desu I used to own a tube amp, but sold it for a stronger SS one.

If I buy one again, it would be mostly for aesthetics. I don't recommend buying entry level ones, there's no point.

>>57338140
I have one of those but now I gotta decide which tubes to get. What tubes are good for it?

>>57338267
I don't really get light bulb aesthetic
and for listening sessions of 2-3 hours sure it's fine but running it all day is kind of crazy

>>57338258
Sound signature?
If it's the Preferred tonal balance thing in the buyer's guide, I'm opting in for "no preference."

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>>57338313

>>57338365
why does it have two off positions?

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>>57338187
I use a receiver so it can't be worse. I don't like flat sound anyway. and >muh aesthetics

>>57338513
I forgot to mention that I need a heater for winter

>>57338513
You think these triode amps are going to have audible FR roll off or distortion? Better return that trash asap.

>>57338267
I bet that dude is auditioning the power cable.

>>57338388
So you can get do Off/High or Off/Low without going throw the other.

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>>57338567
THICC

>>57338118
>>57338173
Thanks. I got it working on motherboard. No more pops and clicks.

Everything you said about usb class 2 is correct.

>>57338118
What about O2+ODAC Rev B? Is that usb class 2? Website says it's 1. Is it class 1 or 2?

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>location
Usa
>budget
200
>device
Galaxy 6
>music preference
I like edm and general pop music though i go all over the place. Any recommendation would be sweet.

>>57336912
bose soundtrue 2?
https://www.amazon.com/Bose-SoundTrue-around-ear-headphones-II/dp/B0117RFX38/

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>>57339193

uh does black friday usually have decent headphone sales? or should i just try to buy what i want now.. no deals lately rly

My motherboard audio died. Any soundcards or other audio sources I can use a mic with? Usubg a FiiO K1 for my headphones atm.

>>57339585
How does a motherboard audio die all of a sudden? Is the thing you plug into broken?

>>57327741
You can do that but the tape output won't be adjusted by the amp's volume control (as well as other things like tone controls). In practice this would make it extremely cumbersome unless you plan to set the sub and amp volume to some fixed level and never touch them again. Depending on what your source is, you could do that and adjust volume on the source itself.

If you try it out make sure you start with the sub's gain/volume set all the way down if you're actually going to feed it 2Vrms line level signal, it will likely be loud as all fuck otherwise.

>>57327833
I've got HD650 at home, never take them out. They'd be way too cumbersome and I don't really listen to music outside. If I really want to I've got some JBL BT earphones I got as a Christmas gift last year. They obviously don't sound great at all, but they're fine for how little[spoiler][/spoiler] I listen to while on the go.

>>57339585
>Any soundcards or other audio sources I can use a mic with?
Yes, almost every single sound card ever made has a mic input. You'd have to look hard for one without a mic input and get into "audiophile" territory.

>>57339738
Yep. Line in/out and microphone dont work. I've tried front panel and and back. Niether will recognise my desk mic nor my Samson SR950's. I've reinstalled Windows and that didn't solve it.

>>57340199
What about the drivers from the official motherboards website? Realtek drivers?

>>57340199
Forgot to add the USB audio sources work though (FiiO K1 and Logitech C615 mic)
>>57340207
I tried those as well. Those didn't detect anything that plugged in.

Anyone tried the new Sennheiser HD 5X9 line?

Really want some decent open back headphones, wondering if the 599 will be worth £200, if I can get a refurbished 598 for £120

>>57333267
>>57336628
Genuine retards, guessing you carry your pc's around with you too?

>>57332863
Had a similar problem, sometimes it's the soundcard

>>57340527
See what I posted here: >>57335632
Sennheiser 5x9 series should have the same drivers as the 5x8 series, you pay more for basically just the new look.

Anybody know if there are any Audio Technica earbuds that come close to these Audio Technica headphones? Preferably looking for one with a volume rocker but if there isn't any then that's fine.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AZ01E4A/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1478027754&sr=8-8&pi=AC_SX280_SY350_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=audio+technica+noise+cancelling&dpPl=1&dpID=41%2BSVHkHnUL&ref=plSrch

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would b cool if u could suggest me the best you know. bluetooth would be nice as well

My headphone/earbuds jacks keep breaking. Any suggestions on sleeves or durable earbuds?

>>57341995
Yeah, there’s this thing called “don’t be a fucking retard and take care of your stuff” it usually works pretty well.

>>57342027
this

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>>57339547

>>57327426
Do headphones never go on sale or something? been wanting to get the m40x

Do open headphones really sound better than closed headphones?

Are the Sony MDR 7506 even made for listening to music? I've been reading no.

>>57343252
you can buy used

Have a Lolicon wallpaper 1920x1080p ?


Its a trap !

>>57342540
Beyersremorse))))

>>57344336
They sound more natural. At least that's how I felt when going from my Superlux HD 681's to Samson SR950's

>>57345027
(((Beyerdynamic)))

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Anyone here got this Panasonic headphones? I've read nothing but positive reviews, but I'm not sure if I should straight fall for the meme

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What're the differences between these two headphones, if any?

The SE looks nicer in my opinion, but it's also $10 less. So it's making me think.

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Sup /hpg/

I got these for free.

The comply tips are kinda uncomfortable though. The sound is great, except on heavy-bass music like grime or some rap.

Aprt from that I like these a lot.

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Waste of money or worth it?

>>57345870
Been using these for 2 years now and for it's price they're fucking amazing.

I love them, the bass is strong but not overpowering, the mids are okay, and the highs are good.

They don't sound muffled and are pretty durable.

I put them in my back pocket so that means I sit on them a lot and over the two years there has been zero damage.

I'd get em anon.

>>57346434
This is the final push I needed

Thanks a lot, I'm getting them

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>>57329130
>>57329369

Nah mayn, they actually great headphones. Accurate as fuck. Only thing i did with mine was replace the pads with velour pads. Fucking heaven

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>be me, few years ago
>got ODAC + O2 + HD600
>still love it
Except that I got pernament dent in my head from wearing them 12h a day, they're perfect. And I heard pretty much everything in the meantime, including stuff like SR-009, HE90, LCD-X/4, or Mr. Speakers

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>>57345027
>>57345509
idgaf i love my dt880s

>>57346746
>Except that I got pernament dent in my head from wearing them 12h a day
take pics

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>>57346897
Not visible through hair, but casily felt under finger.
Basically pic related

I need some good over the ear bluetooth headphones for working out at my gym, I want them to have an FM radio so I can listen to the TV's they have setup in front of the treadmills, anyone have any ideas on a decent pair that can also withstand getting a little sweaty?

>>57346945
your post gave me cancer

>>57346945
Plantronics BackBeat FIT.

No contest.

>>57346921
should probably go see a doctor about that mate

>>57346698
I'm finally listening on them and they're SOOO fucking good. I can't believe how clear everything is. Especially vocals. I'm re-discovering my library with these damn things.

>>57339445
What does the "apple devices" means?

>>57347412

are you serious

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/hpg/'s thoughts on these?

https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-CKS1100iS-Headphones-Microphone-Control/dp/B018U9E058/ref=sr_1_25?ie=UTF8&qid=1478056874&sr=8-25&keywords=audio+technica+in+ear

Do you guys know earbuds?


>under 50

>USA

>Amazon or brick and mortar store only

>earbuds

>irrelevant

>very, like the se315

>bassy

>m50, beyersremorse 770, shure se315k

Also I want something that can withstand abuse like the shure earbuds without the expenses

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>Budget
$100
>Location
U.S
>Source
Phone (axon 7)
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The comfier the better, needs to be portable enough to put in my backpack or in a case.
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy, or neutral. Not bright.
>Past headphones
Koss porta pros, Sony MDR 7506. Porta pros are very portable but the open back makes it impossible to bring in public. Sonys are not portable enough.

>>57346921
>Not visible through hair,
what? I got dent in hair, going bald in an accurate rectangular manner doesn't feel as bad as natural balding for some reason

>>57348653
>Porta pros are very portable but the open back makes it impossible to bring in public.
you are just not sure in your musical taste, when I make my music audible for surrounding people I feel like educator

>>57346375
Definitely worth it.

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>>57349018
You caught me.

Audiophile = Autism

so just got my m40x, which are my first ever headphones, theyre good but my brother says otherwise by them not being loud enough. I dont have an amp for these. Would they make them better? Suggestions for one would be kindly appreciated, ty.

>>57344361
People tend to consider monitor products as bad for listening to music because monitor products are too honest to the tracks.

>>57345988
SE version has a cable having 3.5mm connector. Standard version has just one cable having 6 mm connector + retarded proprietary 3.5mm adapter. Go for the SE version.

>>57346746
Wow cool story bro! Nice quality post.

>>57346746
My hd600 and magni arrives tomorrow. You guys think I need a DAC? I'm upgrading from hd598, heard it's a huge upgrade.

>>57349895
>heard it's a huge upgrade.
lol you're in for disappointment
>You guys think I need a DAC
no

>>57349895
> You guys think I need a DAC?
No.
> I'm upgrading from hd598, heard it's a huge upgrade.
HD598 is meh, so basically any open headphone is a huge upgrade from it.

>>57349895
There are no huge upgrades in audio unless you're moving from a literal piece of shit.

>>57349910
>>57349952
I read from everywhere the clarity and bass difference is pretty noticeable.

>>57350008
600s have no bass, maybe you were reading some 650 comparison.

>>57350013
598s have less

>>57350008
There is more uppermid response on the HD600s. Bass is the same.

Are there any nice headphones poised to go on sale for black friday/cyber monday, or is it going to be just the shit that nobody ever wanted at full price?

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I'm about to buy the senn HD598SE.
Am I making a mistake here, mates?

>>57350307
>not posting how much you bought it for
>anime
kys

>>57350307
Yes. Wait until back Friday

>>57350319
>asking me to wait 23 days to get a 25% discount
mate

>>57350318
$140 on amazon

>>57350307
yes, 558 is better and cheaper.

>>57350350
>558 is better
But that's just objectively wrong.

>>57350383
except it's not, and you can remove some foam behind the driver to make the 558 into an 598 if you really want a less accurate response.

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>>57350383
Objectively you say?

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>>57350521
$50 more for a worse product hmm..

>>57350521
>>57350528
What are these graphs even showing?

>>57350580
the hd558 being more accurate in frequency response and having better distortion characteristics.

>>57346375
>hey guys is it worth it pls tell me i can't think for myself

>>57350834
who are you quoting?

>>57350862
>>>/jp/

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Thinking about buying Philips Fidelios X2, are they going to fall apart on me?

>>57350008
> clarity
You don't get a HD600 if uou want this

> better bass
Nice joke. HD558 has better bass than both HD600 and HD598.

>>57350876
They're built very well, but they have an unbalanced sound.

>>57350008
don't listen to these guys, I moved from 598 to 600s- its much better, you'd have to live with strong clamp for about 5 days though, it gets better
I couldn't hear half of things on 598 that 600 pushes out

about DAC, depends, if you are going from motherboard line out to magni may workout fine
but if you feel like they sound muddy or not detailed- you need to get a dac
because they are detailed and not veiled at all, bass should be clean and not overshadowing
600s have more bass but not by much, it's cleaner than 598

>>57350580
FR and harmonic distortion at 500 Hz sine wave.

>>57350709
>being more accurate
On this target, on this measurement coupler, on these units. Honestly nothing too important and everything in these graphs falls in within normal production variance.

The THD against a single sine wave is a useless measurement. A single sine tone is terribly limited and THD even with full spectrum sweep and harmonics added is hard to tie in into audibility. While added distortion is never a good thing, these graphs are far too limited in scope to draw any conclusions from. Besides thats about 2 dB difference between the two in second and third harmonic, both well under 60 dB below fundamental. It's excellent performance.

Is using a DAC running off the optical out on ones motherboard going to provide good audio quality? What kind should I get? Right now I'm using an amp that doesn't drive my headphones as well as an iphone, strangely.

>>57350913
>Nice joke. HD558 has better bass than both HD600 and HD598.
> clarity
>You don't get a HD600

do you even have all of them? or do you make assumption from the graphs?

I listened to them all in a row after getting 600s
you are full of shit

>>57350979
>optical out
it's just the light =>digital signal like usb
it has limitations, modern usb is better though
jitter horror tales from mid 00s are long past

>>57350947
>don't listen to these guys
What you're going to say isn't better.
>but if you feel like they sound muddy or not detailed- you need to get a dac
DAC doesn't change the sound nor it improves the sound in the way you told.
>because they are detailed and not veiled at all
Totally subjective opinion.
>600s have more bass but not by much, it's cleaner than 598
More bass is never cleaner than less bass.

>>57351032
>What you're going to say isn't better.
at least I have recent experience of going from 598s to 600s
>DAC doesn't change the sound nor it improves the sound in the way you told
I've listened to 600s on four dacs all sounded different.

>Totally subjective opinion.
again, compared to 598s and 90% of people reviewing/having 600s agree on that

>More bass is never cleaner than less bass
splitting hairs, that's what 600s are for that's what they do - you hear more lower frequencies but not IN YOUR FACE, depends on music more than headphones I guess
from what I listened last week bass is better on 600 than 598s/558s

Welp the gf just washed my old JVC IEMs.. Looking for a new pair for around $50-150

I'm mostly looking for comfort and neutral sound. Microphonics should be kinda low as I'll be using these for running.

My first thought is the etymotic hf5 but I'm not sure.

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>>57351778
Definitely HF5. Just loop around the back of ear and/or use a shirt clip.
Another option is the RE400 but I generally do not recommend them for the dodgy build quality. Even moreso because you will be active when using them.

>>57351822
Fang Bian is in Madame Tussauds?

>>57351853
No, Fang Bian is in deep depression.

>>57351822
Thanks anon, HF5 it is.

>>57351859
Meme nano polymer diaphragms not working, bent grilles and woodworking proved problematic 3k dollarino headphones. I'd sudoku 2bh.

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>>57351949
Germans on the other hand getting their harem on.

>>57351972
Yea well they made it sound a little bit better.

>>57351972
>I'm a senior acoustic engineer from Germany at a Japanese headphone festival but I ended up being the centre of a harem!?!?

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>>57352018
7/10 would read ln of audio engineers.

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>>57327654
idk, i use dolby headphone from a xonar stx on my hd800. i recently watched Cabin in the Woods on bluray with a 24 bit 48khz 7.1 audio track, and it sounded pretty much like listening to actual 7.1 speakers.

>>57352033
Audiophool Santa doesn't apply.

>>57352039
Well you did the HRTF and surround processing with software on a decent pair of headphones instead of getting a "surround sound" headphone.

>>57352018
>As expected, women are completely interfering with my audiophile hobbies: Re

>>57352107
>interfering
He looks to be having the time of his life.

>>57352119
>I wanted my headphones to sound a little better and now I'm stuck in a love triangle with my childhood friend and ex: Electric Boogaloo

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I own Sony xba-h1 and hyperx clouds, and they fatigue me so badly. I don't know why but I want to learn so that I know what to avoid in future purchases. This doesn't happen with my ath m50 or dt990 250ohm. I just get so tired of listening to those two headphones and I think it's related to the treble. Should I try to eq it down or up?

>>57352182
Fatigue from XBA H1 but not from DT"earrape"990? Okay.
Try reducing 5khz a few db for the XBA H1.

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my headphones are too low impedance for my amp. the knob is only at 7-8 oclock and it's fucking loud, if I make it lower there is channel imbalance. I'm using equalizer apo to limit the gain, does this reduce the "bit depth" and cucking my sound quality?

>>57352039
Do you need an audio card for this or some software?

>>57352288
>my headphones are too low impedance for my amp
No they are not. Your problem is excessive amplifier gain and/or too high sensitivity headphones for this amplifier. It's not related to impedance.

Too low of an impedance causes amplifiers to fry because of high power draw. It's a real problem with loudspeakers to have too low impedance load for the amplifier but not so much for headphones currently on the market.
>does this reduce the "bit depth"
Yes.
>cucking my sound quality?
You'll slowly creep up the noise floor because of quantization error but the quantization noise is so low even at 16 bits of precision that you shouldn't have to worry about lowering digital gain to counter pot channel balance. It's likely that even after lowering digital volume, your amplifier and the recording equipment used in the music production has orders of magnitude higher noise floor than what quantization causes and it'll be completely masked by the noise present in the system already. So really, don't worry about it when you have a clear audible problem with the volume pot.

>>57352228
I really enjoy my dt990's. soft, comfy and sound baller to my ears. desu my ears might have been fucked from loud concerts over time.

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Recently picked up these Sony MDR-XB950 (silver) for $49 refurbished. I'm happy with them, especially at that price.

>>57352228
Thank you, I will try. It could easily be completely in my head it's kind of hard to differentiate.

>>57336691
Yes. But a deep fit is important.
>>57336876
I agree with this post.
>>57350913
HD600 is a very clear headphone, when will this meme end? You faggots do realize that the 3kHz area is the most important area for clarity, right?
>>57351778
I wouldn't run with Etymotics, too much microphonics.

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CALLING ALL CURRENT/FORMER SUPERLUX HD330 USERS!
Please describe to me what the bass is/was like for you.
It sounds low compared to the other frequencies and I'm unsure whether:
>the headphones sound like that normally and I'm not used to it after using my old pair for a long time
or
>I screwed up the jack by putting it into a faulty smartphone audio opening a few hours after first hearing them

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does /hpg/ agree with this list?
http://headphonesaddict.com/best-earbuds-for-the-money/#under30

>>57353233
>hje120 better than she3590 or piston 3

>>57353254
which one would you buy from that list if you mostly listen to shoegaze or dreampop?

>>57353263
i only have the three i mentioned and the 8320 monoprice. 8320 doesn't deserve to be in the list.

piston 3 i guess by /hpg/ standards. but you can't buy them anymore so go for hybrids.

>>57353273
https://www.amazon.de/XIAOMI-Kopfh%C3%B6rer-Piston-Mikrofon-schwarz/dp/B00W4Z7IGS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1478097016&sr=8-2&keywords=xiaomi+piston+v3

arent these the piston 3 ?

>>57353278
It could be fake that's the thing its discontinued

>>57353283
do you know why they are discontinued ?,were they faulty?

>>57353295
Because the Xiaomi Piston 4 replaced them aka. called the Hybrids.

Anyone have any advice for repairing my ath-ad50's?

Audio will only come out of one ear, but if you orient yourself and the cable a certain way audio will come out both. I tried cutting a section of cable that looked damaged, soldered the wires and wrapped them and it fixed it for a little while.

I also checked the solder points and they all looked fine and undamaged on the headphones themselves.

>>57353532
Fuck I hate that shit
Thank god wireless audio quality is going to catch up to wired in our lifetime
or at least get close enough

Newfag here, are ath-m50s a meme or excellent headphone for the price

Is their a tier list of DACs under $100?

>>57352938
> peak at 3 kHz
> clarity
I wonder when you HD600 shills will finally stop embarassing yourselves.

>>57353732
Both

>>57353811
So, the good kind of meme?

>>57353732
depends on the price if twice more expensive than sony v6/7506s then nope too expensive

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>>57353824
Ye

I used my Sony MDR-10RCs on a Dolby SS 3.0 (or whatever) laptop and I enjoyed them. They had high def clarity to my ears and a nicely warm sound sig. Then the laptop broke. Fast forward a year and I have a new, cheap laptop with Arch Linux (instead of Debian), recently bought a SMSL DAC/amp and expected the headphones to sound the same. But music sounds shit. Really low quality (like I spent £6 on iPhone earphones) & kind of "faint" as in not whole or present enough. Everything is grossly distorted. Vocals/instruments are thin, tinny, sibilant and spiky, so I can't manage to listen for long and I definitely don't enjoy it when I do. Sounds like something is wrong with my computer/software, I don't know what, or maybe even the headphones (but I don't know what headphone damage sounds like). Can speakers fry?

Could it be anything other than the headphones? My ALSA config? The SMSL defaulted to 96 kHz and wouldn't give me sound until I set DAC as default in ~/.asoundrc. The SMSL is on IN1 (connected by USB 3.0) and 48 kHz. I don't know if this is normal but alsamixer has no effect on its volume or sound. Does anyone know what I should do?

>>57353732
yes

>>57354367
So both?

>>57353202
wtf? first they copy akg, now they copy beyer? fucking chinks

>>57354104
install windows or osx, I wish I was kidding
or try another sound interface, linux has a few more I think
which smsl?

>>57354663
They've also copied Sennheiser

>>57354853
which one? the amperior or another model?

Is the Sony MDR 1000x good?

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My Creative Aurvana Live 2 (black) just arrived in the mail I got for $45 refurbished. This is the first time I spent over $20 on headphones and I can definitely hear some parts of songs that I couldn't hear before.

I'm amazed. I didn't even know having the cord being a separate thing was a thing. Hopefully if I unplug and sit the cord somewhere every night it will last a long time before shorting out. My last headset was TekNmotion TM-YW100A and that lasted 2 years 6 months of daily use before it shorted out on me last week.

>>57350957
>are far too limited in scope to draw any conclusions from
They're enough to conclude that the 558 and 598 are so similar that there is absolutely no reason to buy the 598 for the additional cost.

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>after 4 years of blind fiddling with dead screen get around to upgrading from my E7
>jotunheim is 800 dollary doos
>HP-A4BL is only 630 dollary doos
assuming i don't buy extremely inefficient memephones the fostex should suffice right?
are there any other all in one desktop with balanced output i should consider as an ausfag?
the optical input and lower price are making the fostex seem like the best choice to me

>>57354663
>now they copy beyer
Literally has been copied for a decade.

>>57355242
>assuming i don't buy extremely inefficient memephones the fostex should suffice right?
insensitive* and yes.
>with balanced output i should consider
no clue why you are considering balanced out and probably not on your budget here.

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How any of you tried Narmoo S1 with comply Tx400 tips?


It's better then sex.

>>57355277
>why you are considering balanced out
in case i ever get the urge to do something silly like buy balanced headphones or rewire & solder ones i already own
ideally i'd just like something with usb & optical in maybe a selector switch and 6.3mm out with a nice knob. but all the cheaper units i've found usually fall through on one of these

>>57349895
>You guys think I need a DAC?
'Need'? No, probably not, just listen to them from your current source and decide. I've got a Xonar DX from years ago and a MF V-DAC II, they sound very, very similar. On HD650 I can't really tell much of a difference, it's very subtle, but on my speakers the DX has noticeably boomier upper-bass and makes some songs definitely sound worse than the DAC. I prefer using the DAC for stereo music, but IIRC I spent $250 on the thing and if I hadn't heard it I probably couldn't tell there was something 'wrong' with the way the DX sounds. I don't regret buying it since its S/PDIF inputs are also useful to me, but I'd hardly call it a worthy upgrade for the money.

Would trying to set up virtual surround on my M50xs be futile considering their nonexistent soundstage? I just want somewhat more immersive horror gayming. Using my Nvidia GPUs audio, no sound card.

>>57355518
>Using my Nvidia GPUs audio
you're in for an explosive experience

>>57355535
CARLOSSSSSSSSS

>>57350834
$350 is a lot for a pair of earbuds and I have no way of testing them. So asking if they're worth buying is not a terrible question.

>>57355559
Is it $100 more better than this?
https://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4P-T-microPro-Monitors/dp/B004CXBJ6A/

>>57355585
Yes, the one I'm talking about is the new model that they're selling that is an improvement of the pair you linked.

>>57355518
>Would trying to set up virtual surround on my M50xs be futile considering their nonexistent soundstage?
No and headphone "soundstage" is not requirement in any way to create perfect surround virtualization.

>>57355559
Yes it is by definition a terrible question which is starting to trigger me as /g/ is filled with people asking that. The worth of something is as subjective as it gets and you are asking people who you don't know a simple yes or no answer for that.

>>57355535
Nvidia™ Audio® truly is the warmest sounding ever
Listening to music with it really fires up the soul

>>57355611
That's good to hear. Do you have any reccomended software and/or entry level (<$100) sound card to accomplish this?

>>57355603
That one that I linked is two earphones in one. ER4-PT and ER4-S if you attach the impedance thing it comes with. Just so someone else knows.

>>57354935
Sennheiser HD 25 ~ Superlux HD 562

>>57355603
Oh and I don't know if it is an improvement. Probably find the answer in head-fi unless someone here can answer your question.

>>57353697
lithium battery have a limited life too

>>57354703
I installed Pulse and for some reason no longer have sickly spikiness or distorted bass. Clear at any volume. And thinking back I did have Pulse installed on Debian. I'll probably still play around with settings but it sounds at least normal now. Thanks. SMSL M3.

>>57355672
For software, Razer Surround comes to mind. I'm not up to date on what is being done in sound cards right now. Sennheiser is making some digital processor aimed for "gamers" which I expect to be good but have nothing to back this up. Many Dolby processors I've tried have been awful echo chambers.

>>57355603
The ER-4SR is sound wise identical to the ER-4S. The new XR is basically SR with bass boost which results into a little warmer sound signature. ER-4PT is like the S but with more rolled off upper mid and treble region making it slightly more dark sounding. ER-4B is like S but with boost in regions where PT rolls off. They are all very close to one another sound wise. ER-4PT comes with an impedance adapter in the box to convert its response to ER-4S which is what anon >>57355680 mentioned. ER-4S and B are very insensitive in-ears whereas the PT is very sensitive. The new models, XR and SR, are somewhere in-between in terms of sensitivity with much better build quality thanks to the metal housing and nicer cables.

So I recently got Dennheiser 600 HD and really like them, however there was this 'dampening bass' overlay that annoyed the shit out of me. After some time I noticed that there is a foam over a speaker, removed it and everything sounds clearer, maybe 'unrefined' but crispier. Why it was even there?

>>57355884
To tune the sound and to protect the driver housing from hairs/dust. You can tune the response with an equalizer more effectively.

>>57346746
ZMF pilot pad is a great improvement for the headband comfyness
Before that I had a cheaper similar thing, it also helped

>>57353697
The simpler solution is to get a headphone with a removable cable. Wireless headphones have a lot more going on and a lot more that can fail or simply be shit quality, including the battery.

>>57355913
What is a good audio player for mac that can read flac?

>>57356662
Convert to ALAC and use iTunes or VOX. I have limited experience on Mac OS.

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I dare you to post a better looking amplifier.

>>57356662
Also, what is a good dac and amp for HD 600? Anything good around 250$, preferably semi portable, not like I will take it outside but I don't want to have a big techno sandwich on a desk.

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>>57356695

What are some good headphones with mic under £30? Mine broke and I want to get a cheap pair until I have enough for something decent

>>57356695
tacky af

>>57356721
Fiio E10K + HD600 is basically the most meme-tier setup any fellow /hpg/ can have.

>>57356818
What about OPPO HA-2, everyone is pushing for this shit elsewhere.

>>57356920
I never heard that here, then I must assume that it's even worse than the HD600.

>Budget: 150€ soft, 180€ hard limit

>Location: Finland

>Source: PC, finally got a soundcard to use with it too.

>Preferred type of headphone: Full sized

>Open or closed Been using closed ones for the last 3 years so I've gotten used to those

>Comfort level: the comfier the better. I'll be using them for hours every day

>Past headphones: AKG K 273 Pro's for last 3 years.

I considered just buying another pair of those again but wanted another opinion before I spend money on new headphones.

>>57357097
AKG K271, my european friend. It's the natural evolution of your previous headphone.

What's the best objective upgrade to a pair of K550's?
Can be open, I don't mind.
I was thinking a pair of K712 pro maybe.

>>57331401
HyperX Cloud. Have them, love, will vouch for.

Cable won't completely detatch, but a dedicated extender comes in the box. Without it, the attached cable is only 2-3ft long.

>>57357233
You can get the chinkshit version for like half the price of that gayming headset.

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
FiiO K1
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open pref, either works
>Comfort level
I dont mind tight clamps
>Preferred tonal balance
V-Shaped (Bass>Treble) or Bassy, I don't mind losing some closed back bass for open back clarity.
>Past headphones
Superlux HD 681
Samson SR850
Samson SR950

950's are my favorite so far for music (Drum&Bass, Downtempo, Ambient) and 850's for gaming (sounds more natural, better sounstage and clarity for games like Battlefield,CSGO and Insurgency)

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Budget: $50 - $100
Location: USA
Source: MP3 Player/PC (Mostly for music)
>Preferred type of headphone: Full sized
>Open or closed: closed
>Comfort level: As comfy as possible
>Preferred tonal balance: Bassy

Trying to get some for my girlfriend's birthday. Got me some ATH-AD900Xs, but those are mostly for gaming and don't feel that great with the bass.

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>Budget
~200 euros

>Location
Netherlands

>Source
Phone/laptop

>Preferred type of headphone
On-ear

>Open or closed
I like open, but can go for either

>Comfort level
Meh, won't be wearing them for extended periods anyway

>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced/warm

>Past headphones
Senn PX100, PX100-II, PX200-II

I like the form factor of the Sennheisers, but I'd like something better. I was thinking maybe upgrading to Grado's? I can't seem to find them for cheap here though.

>>57346746
Enjoying your osteomalacia anon-kun?

>>57357171
Meh, he could get a K702 for that money.

>>57357290
You mean the (now discontinued and overpriced) Takstar Pro 80? Or its rebranded version that caught some shit for sudden poor quality control?

>>57357808
I thought that he preferred close.

>>57357207
>What's the best objective upgrade to a pair of K550's?
Nothing.
>Can be open, I don't mind.
>I was thinking a pair of K712 pro maybe.
K712 is an inferior and more expensive K702/K701/Q701. Get those if you want to join the open masterrace.

>>57357845
>closed
Oh, right.

Are Sennheiser hd 202 any good?

>>57346746
>unshielded cable
After hearing the kind of noise my system picked up with an unshielded cable going to the amp I'm never touching those again. To be fair, it was only really audible with the source turned off, but still.

>>57358016
they got nice bass. mine broke at the right hinge. super long fucking cord. comfort not so great

>Budget
Hard 120€

>Location
Spain

>Source
Desktop PC mainly, ThinkpadT420 sometimes

>Preferred type of headphone
Full

>Open or Closed
Closed, but I don't care that much

>Comfort
Comfyness is a priority

>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care

>Past headphones
Xiaomi Piston 3 (good for the price
Plantronics GameCom 367 (bad, poorfag quality)

I will be using them for orchestra, rock, weebshit and games.

>>57358130

Okay but compared to some shitty logitech G230 that my grandma got me fory birthday what am i looking at?

>>57358130
oops, that was for the 201. probably mostly the same though. I would recommend getting something comfy

>>57357171
>>57357808
Well I do live alone so the only thing getting through would be the clacking of keyboard and me cursing.

Which one would be better choice for extended use?

>>57358601
Get open then. K701/K702/Q701 is the answer, my friend. Get the cheapest one. If they're too pricy, get a AKG K612 Pro.

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>>57358146
I've enjoyed my Beyerdynamics DT770's alot, everyone says it's a hate/love relationship tho.
Had mine for aprox. 5 months, and the more i listen to them, the more the grow on me.
Can only recommend these cans when the budget is tight, and you need something that is UBER comfy.
Seriously, the pads on this headset is like pillows for your ears.
And you can even replace them with the DT990's for even more comfort.
2Comfy4Me Cans, but then again, all come downs to your preferences.

>>57358703
K 702 it is then. Thanks for the help.

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>>57359117
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