/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Why are these headphones never mentioned?
>That build quality
>That price
>Removable, durable 3.5mm cord can be plugged in on either the left or right headphone.
>THE GLORIOUS SOUND

>>57299320
The build is shit. It's like actually bad to the point I managed to cut myself on the joints when demoing.

What's special about the price?

The cord is alright.

The sound is bassy garbage, sounds muddy. 50e headphones achieve this level of SQ already.

They aren't mentioned because they are crap like everything Marshall has done recently in consumer audio. Riding on the brand name and manufacturing average quality gear with premium pricing.

>>57300048
You cut yourself on the joints? Are you retarded? I've had a pair for 4 years and I've never even gotten close to that.
They're $74 which is good considering the feel and sound of them. From someone that has simply demoed them, you probably listened to them with the sound dampener inserts inside. With them removed, everything is crystal clear. Literally have not seen a better pair of headphones for the price, also they look great.

why haven't you joined the XLR master race?

HD800s, LCD3, or Elear?

>>57300986
HD600

>>57300992
Not a fan.

>>57300986
HD 800 + EQ

>>57300961
I have my monitors and mic which requires phantom power hooked up with balanced XLR connectors. For headphones/speaker wire to run balanced.

>>57301159
>using a EQ

>>57301223
>forever in shit sound purgatory
What's with those models anyway? Picked them up by some Head-Fi hype score equivalent to Amazon customer reviews without a single thought put on what you actually want from your headphones?

>>57301249
That anon wasn't me but I do invalidate anyone's opinion that uses eq programs.

>>57301381
Would like to hear some kind of a reason for it but I honestly doubt you understand the usage and effect of EQ to say that.

>>57301400
I don't alter music. And it's only for a PC application really.

>>57301400
checked

>>57301417
EQ exists to avoid altering the music or whatever audio content it is you listen to. It's main usage here is to counter the coloration of the headphones thus resulting into a flat frequency response: something no headphone does by default. It's a pretty powerful tool and you can use it to do many things with the response but reducing the coloration is where the name "equalizer" comes from and what it was originally intended for. If you truly didn't want to alter your music, you'd always use a carefully tuned EQ preset. I have no idea why people reject it, especially with headphones. EQ(and other DSP) is widely used in accurate loudspeaker systems and EQ much easier to do with headphones which operate mostly in minimum phase and don't have to deal with room acoustics or off-axis performance.

>>57301517
tl:dr
Look mom I'm a DJ!

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>>57301748

Disappointed with Superlux HD381F, why are these memed so hard here?

>>57301776
Never heard of them being mentioned.

>>57301837
They're mentioned frequently as being comparable with headphones many times their price (~$10) both in these threads and in chink shit threads.

>>57301381
there is no difference between an eq'd headphone and a non-eq'd one as far as sound quality goes

>>57301857
csg always was just terrible poorfag shopping advice thread with literally no basis on most stuff being shilled. ive filtered them out for a while so can't say what's going on in there recently. certain superlux models are recommended here occasionally but all of them are pretty well documented so you aren't purchasing products blind or based on some random anon's uneducated opinion.

>>57301906
depends on the definition of sound quality. i'd say fr is easily the baseline for everything in sound quality and as eq directly alters it, you'll either make it better or worse, depending on whether you know what you are doing or not.

Poor Canadian here. MDR-7506 any good? I like flat-ish response but not super important. They will only be used at my PC for video editing, listening to jazz, hip hop, and some music production.

>>57299320
new marshall is shit

>>57300986
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800Ssn01070.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FocalElear.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD3Fazorsn2715432.pdf

Take your pick.

>>57301776
>>57301857
theyve been mentioned like twice in /hpg/ in the past 6 months. not one single 'review' of them
just named

and ive only seen them once on /csg/ and it was some dude asking about them
dont even think he bought them

vmoda m100 vs shure 840?

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>>57299297
>Budget
$100
>Location
Chile, can order internationally.
>Source
S7, Pc
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
comfy enough to use for extended periods of time.
>Preferred tonal balance
bassy
>Past headphones
soundmagic E10. liked them but would like to get an upgrade.

>>57302995
The problem is I don't know. These would be the most expensive headphone purchase I've done. Heard the HD800s and they sound good. Not able to test the others without buying.

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I'm deciding between HD598 and HD600. It will be used most with the following:

-PC (w/ amp)
-TV(no amp)
-iPhone (no amp)
-3DS (no amp)

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Does anybody here have any experience with wireless headphones, and could somebody recommend me a good pair?
I'm willing to spend upwards of $200 or a little bit more.

I know wireless stuff is flamed here in general but I'm just really into it personally. Hate cords desu.
I don't know of any good wireless headphones though without resorting to gamer rubbish. Any help?

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>Budget
60$/55€
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Mp3 player, android, pc.
>Preferred type of headphone
In-Ear
>Comfort level
Comfortable, will be using them in bed.
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-V6
Koss Porta Pro
ATH-AD700X

Mainly looking for decent isolation.

>>57303596
I've heard momentum's 2.0 are good.
I am not sure these are 200 though.

>>57303596
Sennheiser momentum and Bose CQ series are alright
that said, if you're just using it at home for movies or something, or you just dont care if you look like a dork, you're better off just getting headphones with a removable cable and attatching a wireless reciever to them with some velcro or 3m adhesive or something. It'll be cheaper and sound better

>>57304028
wait
QC not CQ

>>57303241
mediaplayer.cl

Espero que seas de Santiago

Im planning to get an m40x but also want to get a vmoda boom mic however it's not compatible. If I get the shp9500 i can get the vmoda boom. What do...??

>>57304245
Do you need closed or is open okay? You'll probably be happy with either.

>>57300986
>shit, shit or shit
>>57301015
Not priced high enough? I'll sell you mine for $2000 and throw in some silver cables.
>>57303453
HD598.

>>57304257
oh, I forgot the shp9500's are open. I cant be listening to porn and shit with people hearing, I guess m40x it is

>>57304245
>>57304335
you can get a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter for m40x's
you just have to kind of dremil it so the lock mechanism wont interfere
similar to what sennheiser does

>>57304474
thanks anon

Which AAC is better? AAC-Main or AAC-LTP?

>>57303453
HD600.

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Got a pair of m50x cans but they are too quiet with my Nexus 5x

Which portable amp would /g/ recommend?

>>57303453
HD 600's
dunno about your TV, but everything else should drive it perfectly fine.
and if they don't you can get a cheap portable amp for ~20 on aliexpress
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-XDUOO-XQ-10-Mini-Potable-Earphone-Headphone-Amplifier-3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-Metal-Case/32654223187.html
works very well and will drive HD 600's fine

>>57305760
read above

>>57302995
Seriously what do those graphs mean do they show the true value of the headphones?
I'd love a pair of $3k headphones if they were worth the money

what can i get for <$40 that will last for a couple years

idc if it sounds shitty

>>57305893
8 pairs of VE monks

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I want to get a simple Interface for an xlr mic, i was looking at this but i was wondering, what is the difference between the
Focusrite SCARLETT SOLO 2ND GEN and Focusrite Scarlett 2i2? i heard that the solo has less mic gain so it will sound more quiet than the 2i2 is this true?

>Budget
~40 bucks
>Location
Russia
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Dosen't matter

New to quality audio and stuff like that. Been using a pair of cheap earbuds for as long as I can remember.

Is $200 enough to get me the "full package" or whatever with a decent pair of headphones, DAC/AMP etc? I'm not sure how much money I'm looking to spend here but $200 is more or less my budget to spend on everything.

>>57306431
yeah 200 is perfectly fine
you can get an SMSL dac/amp for like ~70 or a micca origen for like ~90
and then spend the rest on some decent cans

>>57301974
>i'd say fr is easily the baseline for everything in sound quality
Doesn't that make you one of those "retards" I've heard so much about?

>>57306492
what do you mean?

>>57306570
There's obviously far more important aspects for modern headphones. you only need so much fr

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I've been spending the last few weeks with pic related (Sony MDR 1A), after reading that they were the most comfy headphones evah, and indeed while I still have to find a full size headphone that "disappears" the same way regular earbuds (not IEM) do, I can still keep it on without wanting to tear my head off the whole time.

That being said, is there any headphone that is even more comfy than these? The sound quality is amazing with these, the bass is a bit out of control sometimes but I'd rather take away some bass with EQ than adding it with all the distortion that will bring, I just want something more comfy, so what is LITERALLY the comfiest on the market without too much of a compromise in sound quality?

Other headphones I owned were the ATH M50x, which also sounded good albeit a bit harsh in the highs and were very uncomfortable, and the Senn HD598 which had literally no bass whatsoever with no way to fix using EQ (not even the eq on the FiiO E07K could fix them) and were definitely a lot less comfy than the Sony.


up to 150€
Italy
FiioE07K, phone (oneplus3)
Circumaural open
Literally the comfiest
Bassy but not bloated, not veiled
M50x (too harsh, small soundstage, uncomfy), HD598 (no bass, veiled, comfort could be better), Sony MDR1A (enjoyable sound signature but bass can be overpowering, comfort is the best yet but could be better I think)

>>57306608
Nah if frequency response is shit, you might as well not care about the rest as sound signature is already awful. What kind of other aspects are you talking about?

>>57306304

From what I remember, a lot of people on the original Solo were having gain issues with it. Plugging in a guitar would lead to it, even with the gain half way and on green, clipping audibly.

I assume they fixed that bug in the 2nd gen.

>what is the difference between the
Focusrite SCARLETT SOLO 2ND GEN and Focusrite Scarlett 2i2

The Solo 2nd gen has one XLR input and one instrument input
The 2i2 has two of those new inputs that can accept either xlr or instrument cables

in other words, you can records two vocals at the same time on the 2i2 while you are limited to only one on the solo.

I got the 2i4 fwiw, comes with MIDI, super happy with it

> i heard that the solo has less mic gain so it will sound more quiet than the 2i2 is this true?

no clue but the 50 dollar difference for those inputs is probably worth it imo, if case you want to do duets down the road

however if you are just single tracking voices, save yourself 50 bucks and get the solo 2nd get, it's solid

So guys is it true that if you keep plug in and out your headphone too much the jack gets fucked up?

I am getting an ATH M40x and I might be taking it with me every 3 or 4 weeks when I visit home. Could it fuck up the jack?

>>57306689
nah
ive had headphones for years that have never worn out with daily cable removal
3 or 4 weeks is fine

>>57306688
>however if you are just single tracking voices, save yourself 50 bucks and get the solo 2nd get, it's solid
I am thinking of doing that, i have an ATR2100 that is usb and xlr and the usb port started to become loose and die so i though
that i might as well get an interface and use the xlr port, maybe get a better xlr mic down the road as well, so yes i will be using it just for myself.
Thank you, if there is no quality deferences and just ports then i am going to go with the solo.

Budget: around 300 or less might go a bit higher
Location: USA
Source: S7 Edge
Preferrence: IEM but if it sounds better im alright with anything
Open Closed: if its not IEM closed
Comfort: Dont care
Tonal Balance: Bassy
Past Headphones: LG Tone Pro (First headphones i owned that i could hear bass with)

>>57306635
headphones that have those amazing lambskin mr speakers pads on them
like his modded T50 RP [amazing headphones]

or headphones with HM5 pads

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Whoever recommended the Sennheiser HD series to me can eat shit and die.
My pal's ATH-M50x sounds so much better, it's not even close.

>>57307165
Which HD?

>>57307165
you understand youre talking about an entire range of headphones from 100 dollar closed semi-portable normie phones to full blown $1700 audiphile memephones right?
which HD series?

m50x are shit btw

Does anyone know of a good cheap amplifier?

I have two speakers that I have connected with regular wires and source can be either RCA or 3.5mm jack or bluetooth.

It should be able to be turned on all the time.
I have used one that stopped working after a while (probably too cheap) and I replaced it with a bluetooth one that now leaks noise from the bluetooth signal to the audio (I assume, since I get sound spikes at a very low rate)

What do you guys use?

>>57307231
Define cheap?
The best sub 50 speaker amp is the Nobsound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzjDbbuNNpc
i know /hpg/ doesnt like Z reviews, which is fair. he is pretty plebbit
but that video is pretty accurate
that said you need to get a 12v power supply [which is only like 5 bucks of amazon]

good cheap amp

i just got an smsl m3 and plugged in IN1 by USB to my laptop (acer with arch linux/alsa). i'm only getting sound out of my laptop speakers which means the dac isn't being detected. what am i doing wrong?

>>57307268
that is exactly what I have right now.
It was fine at first, but now I hear these "pops" on the speakers, like a dripping faucet.
Is there not something better?

>>57307325
there is better stuff but it costs more
dunno what those pops are tho
i dont get that at all

may be an issue with your speakers or your source

I changed the sample rate in Windows to 192k because that's what my computer's DAC supports and now things sound kinda better

Is that imagined or actual improvement?

(I do not have the cash for a USB DAC but I would like to get one eventually)

>>57307501
Do you use Foobar2K?

>>57307513
No, is it good?

>>57307517
Yes. It's great.

>now things sound kinda better
Try again with Foobar2K and WASAPI (Push).

>>57307340
it does it in the video as well when he plugged the cable, to use the jack instead of the bluetooth
But now it happens all the time.
It is like 1-2 times per second, so if it isn't the bluetooth, then I don't know what it could be.

It is a setup at my parents house, so the source is an ipad, the input is jack to RCA cable that lies next to the usb power cable, but right now I am using bluetooth.
The noise also happens when I turn down the volume on the ipad, and it amplifies when I turn up the volume on the amplifier.
The speakers are just some generic speakers I have connected with 1.5mm^2 wires.
The setup has worked in the past,
the first amp was a cheap lepai sized amp I got from china, so I get why that was not good enough.
I have also tried to use a different bluetooth source where the same issue is there.

It is turned on all the time though (at least until the popping started), so it might be why it failed, but since I am not living with my parents, I do not have time to send it in, but I do have time to buy a replacement.

I use a lepai myself and that works fine, maybe I should get one of those for them.

>>57299320
>THE GLORIOUS SOUND

fucking kek

>>57307531
>WASAPI
well holy shit

>>57307517
Huh? You're welcome?

>>57307637
It's good. Thanks! Very enjoyable.

>>57307658
Do you also know about the "loudness wars"? Look into it.

>>57307663
I do know about the loudness wars. I'd prefer to have sane levels instead of letting studios/publishers crank the levels across the board just to be louder.

At least, I think that's what you're referring to.

>>57303453
lol hd600 obviously

>>57299320
marshall are just a brand now

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the Sennheiser Urbanites are the first Sennheiser headphones I've had that I actually like. Just got them today.

What's a good entry level DAC&AMP?
Not looking to spend too much more than $100.

>>57307817
Best DAC/Amp combo for that price is the Micca Origen+
https://www.amazon.com/Micca-OriGen-High-Resolution-Preamplifier/dp/B01BURJVOC

>>57307817
fio e10k is all you need m8. Don't fall for the memes.

>>57307898
e10k is build poorly and doesnt have enough features for the price
you'd bet better off buying an SMSL or micca origen

>>57307926
Built poorly? it's built like a fucking rock. What features is it missing?

>Budget
300-600 EUR
>Location
Yurop
>Source
Corda Opera
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfyest
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't really matter
>Past headphones
ATH-A900X, SRH-840

I'm looking for something very isolating and very comfy, for low volume listening

I rebooted and it showed up in alsamixer, so I selected it and set it as default in .asoundrc. Still no sound from DAC (although also no sound from laptop speakers now), yet when I plug into my laptop's headphone jack (without changing soundcards), I do still get sound.

It's converting a Sony MDR-10RC 3.5mm to 1/4 and everything is plugged in securely. Does anyone have any experience with what could be wrong?

>>57307947
Its not built like a rock. I broke two. Both by falling only 3 feet. I dropped my SMSL M3 several times and it worked right up til the day I sold it
Others have had similar experiences.

And its not that its lacking features, Its just the price that youre paying
You can get an SMSL SD793-II for less and it has less features. Identical sound.
You can get an SMSL M3 for the same price and have even more features. Identical sound.

You can get a Micca Origen+ for 25 more and have a better sounding more compact DAC/Amp

>>57308019
My e10k is stuck down to my desk so it wont be falling anywhere, besides that it looks and feels solid to me and it has a 3.5mm jack and a volume dial,That's all I need.

The o2 doesn't sound better than the e10k with all of my headphones so I doubt that the origen does, It's a nice looking unit though.

>>57308082
>The o2 doesn't sound better than the e10k with all of my headphones so I doubt that the origen does, It's a nice looking unit though.
The o2 is an amp.
Not a DAC.
Anon are you high?

And because it's enough for you, doesn't mean it's enough for the other anon asking. If you haven't compared them please don't make claims.
The origin does sound noticeably better than the Fiio's and SMS'Ls I've used.

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Reporting in

>>57308168
Always thought that those are some of the most ugly headphones ever made. They sound nice though.

I'm in need for some budget in ears using my smartphone. I don't really want to spend more than 30€. I may wear them for some hours straight, so they shouldn't hurt my ears after wearing them for a long time. The sound quality doesn't have to be top notch, but should be clean (not like the Razer Kraken for example).

>>57308182
i like the looks and sound so a big win for me esp as i got a huge discount.

>>57308133
I mean the o2+dac combo obviously.

I would put my life on the fact that the origen doesn't sound better than the e10k or o2. Just because the Origen is your latest toy it doesn't make it better than the e10k lmao. Whatever makes you happy I guess.

>>57308188
Look up the takstar 2050, they're great for the money and you can get them cheap from ali express, or amazon if you can't be bothered to wait a long time.

>>57308313
Origen does sound better than a Fiio. You've already eluded to the fact that you've never used an Origen+, so I don't know why you continue to talk about it.
And it was perfectly reasonable for me to assume you're slow about the o2. Your logic so far has been anything but sound.

I don't even use my Origen anymore. And an o2+o-dac combo sounds better than both the Fiio and Origen+ Not by too much on each increment, but there is a definitive audible difference.
Either you don't have good enough headphones to tell the difference, you've got damaged/inferior hearing, or you just haven't listened hard enough/long enough.

I'm currently using a Jotunheim. Hardly an audible difference above my old o2+o-dac/Schiit stack. I probably wouldn't have been able to tell without having done an ABX test

>>57308335
Takstar 2050's are very hard to find now. And when you do they're quite expensive. Both the HI2050's and Pro 80's aren't 'made' anymore
They are being sold as ISK HP2010 [open] an HP2011 [closed]
That said, its been recently discovered that they're now using low-quality drivers as of recent. Was shit about in /csg/ in the past few threads.
So unless you can find them as Takstars [not rebranded] for cheap, they're not a worthwhile option anymore. I think someone found them cheap on Taobao, but Taobao is a bitch to buy from.

>>57308335
Like >>57308514 said, they're hard to find (it'd be best if I could get them from amazon) and I'm looking for In-Ears, they're just easier to use for everyday carry.

>>57308514
>And an o2+o-dac combo sounds better than both the Fiio and Origen+

It doesn't. I owned the o2 combo and sold it because it sounds exactly the same as the e10k. EXACTLY the same. I tested it extensively.

DON'T LISTEN

ANYTHING

ABOVE

80 DB

THANK YOU

- YOU EARS

>>57308581
It does. I've got an ABX switch box exactly for that purpose.

>>57308597
How can you tell that you're listening to 80dB?

>>57308602
1/4 jack switch? where did you get that?

>>57308634
Use a decibel meter.
Or there are sort of 'references' where they'll tell you what certain things like speaking, jackhammers, and other everyday life shit measure at, which you can kind of judge for yourself.

>>57308638
Aliexpress. Though you can build one yourself for cheap.

>>57307165
>my pal's ATH-M50x sounds so much better
>than any HDs

heck even 518s outperform mx50x
you are tone deaf

>>57308602
Explain how it sounds better? I compared the o2 and fiio to autistic levels and I thought the o2 was better at first because I convinced myself that it was. The truth is they sounds exactly the same, At least with the hd600's and 702's anyway.

>>57307501
>Is that imagined or actual improvement?
hard to say, it comes to preference
which windows?
upsampling in w10 sucks, in w7 it was fixed somewhat
it actually makes it "audiophile" sound which is distorted
I keep it at 24bit - 44.1 khz it's gets it closest to a source material

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>Budget
$160-$170
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop, Xperia Z5, PS Vita, Sega Genesis Model 1
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Size
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Enough for extended periods of time maybe 3 or 4 hours or so.
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't matter just looking to upgrade.
>Past headphones
Sony MDRV6

Was looking at these and the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium 32 OHM Headphones which isn't in the photo.
I don't use an amp either.

>>57308723
Sounded slightly more focused and clear. Can't really give a further in depth explanation since I don't have either anymore. I tested them all the way from cheap stuff like Superlux 668B and 662 EVO, VE monk pluses, HD 4xx series Sennys, and Takstar Pro 80s, to mid range shit like my HE-400i and 400s, HD 600's, DT770 Pros and DT880's, up to some higher stuff like Stax 007 (i think?), HD 800s', LCX-3 and LCD-X.

I've only got such a large test sample thanks to having a couple other 'audiophile' friends.

On some the change was absolutely noticeable with ABX testing, but quite a few were indistinguishable.

Realistically, It's not going to matter to most people, but the whole discussion has been based on semantics for the most part.

>>57300992
people pay $1500 for a headphone? I'm not trolling, I have never entered these threads, but that seems really high. Is there a justified use case?

I currently use a HD202 and it feels really good.

>>57308865
>Is there a justified use case?
you sit in them for more than 5 hours a day

people pay $10k for tires and drive from home to work and nowhere else is it justified?

>>57308833
Don't get the more expensive beyers unless youre okay with treble. Even 770's are a bit much for some.
IMO 558's/598's are pretty competitive purely due to no 5-second tinnitus.

A lot of AKG's could be an option too.

>>57308852
Fair enough. I couldn't hear a difference so it was pointless owning the o2 for me. The e10k drives my hd600's perfectly imo and that's all I need.

What are your personal endgame headphones?

>>57308865
if you don't have music more than 128kbps then the HD202 is good enough

but I prefer lossless and hence I need to buy better headphones (FWIW, mine cost me $3100 - it was customly built for me)

>>57308865
If people have disposable income and use them, why not? People spend thousands on televisions and home cinemas. Even more on expensive cars that a $5k camry could do 90% as well. Music is hardly any different.

>>57308900
curiosity question, can you tell a difference between violins in good orchestra recording?
with 600s you should more or less

>>57308833
HD 598 for fun non bassy signature V moda LP2 for techno or bassy

>>57308900
Not really sure. So far my friends LCD-X have been the nicest things I've ever heard, but really I just switch from headphone to headphone.
My HE-400i's with HM5 pads have been one of my mainstays. Theyre just a very fun headphone. I like them more than X2's. Good cheap planar bass. I live in Melbourne Australia, so It's somewhat hard to come across higher end headphones to test out and compare. I really need to test some more Stax, but they're so hard to find.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/11537076

>Budget
~ 50€
>Location
Germany
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Whatever
>Past Headphones
Sennheiser PC151

Was eying Philips SHP9500 but as it seems, it's sold for 120€ instead of 70€ in Germany.

what is your best test music to test a headphone's quality?

>>57309045
>Was eying Philips SHP9500
you can find these? I thought they don't sell them in EU anymore

>>57308987
>>57308886
Sounds good guys really appreciate the help.

Also for the HD598's I do like the Ivory colored headphones but do the Black Special Edition ones have anything different from the Ivory colored ones? I can't seem to distinguish a difference, did they just upgrade the comfort level?

>>57309057
they changed the colour, that's it

speaking of senns, any news about new ones? any real reviews or someone tried them? is it another refit?

>>57309023
$300, $450 and $1500 so I selected $2000

>>57309045
You could probably import if from the UK or somewhere in the EU for fairly cheap.

>>57309057
598 and the 598 SE are identical in everything in terms of colour. Same comfort.

>>57308920
This shitty bitrate/codec meme again.

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If I'm converting flac to AAC. What maximum bandwidth do I use. Is 48 okay?

>>57309289
he's baiting, anon

>>57309296
To avoid a possibly poor resampler, use the same sampling rate as the file you are converting. Bitrate around 256kbps is way good enough for transparency.

My current cheap-ass headphone states a frequency response from 20Hz to 20kHz, while some fancier models I'm browsing state 21Hz to 18kHz.

Will I miss those missing frequencies?

>>57309349
No. You won't notice shit unless youre a literal infant.

>>57309336
And that is the bitrate of both channels combined.

>>57309349
Don't put any emphasis on those numbers which manufacturers provide. They really don't reflect how the headphones perform. And in the case they did, you can safely ignore the bandwidth above 18 KHz. It won't be audible during music listening even if you are able to hear above it in sine tones.

>>57309349
Tell us where your hearing ends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k

>80 burger bucks
>Texas
>Just my computer have usb/aux ports open
>Full
>closed
>as comfy as i can get
>gimme da bass
>nothing besides razer 7.1 headset and 40 dollar audio technica's

>>57300986
Quick opinion, more elaboration on request.
LCD3 is lame. LCD2 and LCD4 were okay. LCD-X just seemed meh.
HD800 is okay. I see no reason why the HD800S exists. If you say a fixed tuned filter, I can do that myself and better. It's still the HD800 at its core, and the S version doesn't fix that.
Haven't heard the Elear, but it seems not so great.

>>57305801
Various product measurements, not all of which are useful.

>>57308514
>you don't have good enough headphones to tell the difference
This is just a straight load of bullshit. "Quality" has little of anything to do with that.

>>57308602
>ABX
Somehow, I doubt you set it up properly, as most persons tend to.

>>57309349
That spec is worth nothing. There is no qualifier to it and no curve showing device response.
>Will I miss those missing frequencies?
That's a very small range of frequency considering detection is near logarithmic. Auditory masking makes that highly doubtful, even before considering the spectral audio signal passed through them and the upper limits of your own ear.

is there a better alternative to the Sony MDRXB50AP for IEM's under 40 USD?

>>57309423
18.5 kHz, though I'd need a video that isn't so abrupt to test it properly. And around 20Hz I can already hear a muffled sound. (I'm 25, by the way.)

>>57309543
Yeah, I was just wondering whether that could be some "residual" perception from that extra range, even if it's not that audible in pure form.

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Sooo... these are my only options, what would /g/ choose?

The AKG k44 looks comfy as comfy, the ??? marks are due some reviewer saying there are no "speakers" included, but I think he is full of shit. Could this be just a case?

That yellow AKG one is curiously way cheaper than its normal price, so maybe it's on par with the other 300$ ones.

From what I've read, the HD 202-ii seems better than the AKGs because of the neodymium magnets, not sure if the 201 also have them.

As for the pricey ones below (205-ii and k171), are they worth the extra 200$? (Around 60 dollars).

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>>57309296
>aac
>no vorbis or opus

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>>57309666
>though I'd need a video that isn't so abrupt to test it properly.
You don't need a video. Download Sinegen and use the slider.

>>57309731
AAC is a little better compression efficiency wise than Vorbis and Opus is not as well supported. Not that person but if I couldn't use Opus, AAC would be my second choice for lossy compression.

>>57309759
Nice program but the last time I checked it was only available from pretty sketchy sites.

>>57307981
anyone?

>>57309423
25 to 15k for me
I'm 31

>>57303625
how did you like your 700X's?

>>57309423


>>57309981
>I'm 31
hell will I lose that much? i'm 1/5 into 17khz and 29

>>57307981
t50rp mk3 maybe?
they are semi closed though but not loud, and you'd need to change the pads

>>57310101
I know my hearing was already not great in at least one ear many years ago

>>57310149
Well I'm thinking of going with a ZMF mod
By isolation I mean I don't want to hear outside sounds

>>57308964
>curiosity question, can you tell a difference between violins in good orchestra recording?

I'm not really sure how to answer that but the 600's are more than clear enough to hear minor differences etc, They're the best headphones i've ever tried.

>>57310181
wood is cool but I don't think they are worth that much
just get the pads
unless you really like wood

>>57308994
The x2's are fun but way too mushy sounding compared to my 600's.

Would you say the HE-400i's are clearly better than the 600's? if so they must be fucking great.

>>57310249
for some people sterile sound =>not good
they like it WARM TUBE'Y or whatever
just the preference
it comes down to diminishing returns after 600s

>Budget
100-300 dollars (but I have some caveats)
>Location
USA
>Source
Ps4,my mac, my phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized ideally, but IEMs would be fine for the gym
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Needs to be comfy as shit, I have a big head and intend on watching a lot of tv/movies with these
>Preferred tonal balance
Don’t have any strong thoughts as of yet
>Past headphones
Random shit


I need three things
Something to use while I work out
Something with good audio/headset for ps4/skyping/discord
Something with good audio for listening to music/watching movies


The only thing I’ve found so far that seems to be the best combination of all three (although I might need to get something else for the gym, dont want to fuck these up) is the HyperX Cloud II. People claim online that it can do 7.1 (evidently it’s not really 7.1 but whatever), even on the ps4. I want to make the investment in good headphones for these three things, so will I be really disappointed in the Cloud IIs for audio? Will it get the job done?

>>57308241
How much did you get them for?

What do people mean by resonance when it's related to treble?
How do you remove that?

>>57309490
Look into Samson SR950's. Me coming from Superlux HD 681's, they're absolute bass cannons. I've heard a friend's Razer Krakens and compared to the Samsons, the bass a bit less though a lot cleaner across the spectrum and wider soundstage. I'm also driving them with a FiiO K1 so getting a DAC/Amp may make a difference since my onboard is trash.

hey man, i've been rocking the m50s since 2011 when I first visited this board (which I've never browsed nor contribooted to), when I thought them the unofficial headphone of /g/. Admittedly at the time they were 100 USD. Now 200 USD.

I've had to get m50Xs in 2013 from cable abuse. Both cans costed me ~150 USD. I was lurking from sqt yesterday after asking a question tho and saw a meme50 thread and everyone seemed to hate them.

Sorry for the fucking thesis but I know m50s have a lot of bass, mediocre to poor directional accuracy, and general poor respect for the integrity of music, however one would word that. But does no one respect them anymore? Like you don't see m50s and sorta mentally tip your hat to them? You see shite?

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Is there a rule of thumb regarding what volume will fuck you up with (closed) headphones?

>>57312087
>What do people mean by resonance when it's related to treble?
Peaks in response, which come from stored energy released preferentially at a certain frequency.
So, treble peaks.
>How do you remove that?
Damping and/or equalization.

>>57312219
The same level that hurts your ears normally.

>>57309053
Whatever you know well and listen to often.

>>57312500
>The same level that hurts your ears normally.
Ears, not head right? Because I'm used to listen to music at extremely low volume, so I'm slowly getting used to higher volumes and it causes my head to hurt often, but not ears.

>>57309296
imo you should use apples qaac to convert to AAC

>>57312532
The sound itself isn't going to physically damage you, ears aside.
Off the top of my head, not sure. Strong stimuli are associated with headaches, and the ear itself houses the vestibular system. I'm more inclined to think the former, not that you should take medical suggestions here too seriously.

>>57312838
>The sound itself isn't going to physically damage you, ears aside.
But you can go deaf from 90db+ so that doesn't really make sense.

>>57313010
you quoted the wrong person

>>57313031
damn

>>57299297
She has no mouth.

>>57309296
48 sounds just like 44.1, you may as well just use 44.1.
Don't go lower than 44.1 obviously.

>Budget
300€

>Location
Germany

>Source
Steinberg UR22 MKII (must be easy to drive)

>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
very comfortable (wearing 8h+)

>Preferred tonal balance
U-shaped

>Past headphones
Fidelio X2
Sony MDR-MA900

>>57313209
You should use whatever the source is

Anyone fan of JDS labs DAC+amp combo?

They seem to be the "go to" for most of AKG and Seinheisser cans.

Colossal Scrub here, please shine some of that sweet actually-knowing-a-fucking-thing-about-headphones-benevolence.

Budget: 150 Burger, but I'm willing to go over a decent amount.
Location: Burgerland
Source: My PC.
Type of Headphone: I have no damn clue.
Comfort Level: I'd prefer a little more comfort, but I can get used to broke ass ducttaped together phones, so I can deal with that.

Past Headphones:
Corsair HS210
Logitech G930

Any suggestions?

>>57313355

O2 + ODAC is a good choice from either JDS or Mayflower.

Straightforward, simple solid state operation. Will sound plenty good and most likely give you as much power as you need.

O2+ODAC is the alternative choice to the Schiit stack. Whichever flavor you like.

>>57313724
What about Element? That seem to be the upgrade of O2.

>>57313764
Slightly more powerful, slightly more noisy, arguably feels like a more solid product. Doesn't really have an upper hand over O2 in driving headphone loads.

>>57313355
>They seem to be the "go to" for most of AKG and Seinheisser cans.
That's incidental more than anything else. Plenty of people buy an O2 from JDS and forget it. Or did you mean some other model they sell?

>That seem to be the upgrade of O2.
It isn't better, maybe a few trade offs. Not better than the Magni+Modi pair.
The problematic line of thinking people have is treating things like the O2+ODAC as low end because it isn't exorbitantly expensive. JDS, Schiit, and the like get most of their business from people who buy all sorts of gear the don't really need for sound quality.

>>57313764

Comparable to Magni 2 Uber / Modi 2 Uber stack.

The stack comes out to a little more but includes multiple input functionality.

Again, whichever flavor you prefer.

The next step up from the Schiit Uber Stack / Element would be something like the Jotunheim which people are losing their minds over. Not sure what alternatives to that exist at a similar price, but I'm sure there's something.

What's the DAC/amp endgame assuming I don't want to fall for the overly crazy expensive shit?
I use a Fiio X3 as a DAC/amp and it does a great job but I have entry level shit. I was considering either a pair of K712 pro or HD 650 for christmas, but not sure if I need something beefier than the X3.

>>57313941

>Magni 2 / Modi 2
$198

>Magni 2 Uber / Modi 2 Uber
$298

>JDS O2+ODAC
$279

>Mayflower O2+ODAC
$279

>Jotunheim w/ DAC
$499

Seriously, pick your flavor mate. There are so many good options in the $200-500 price range now that you should just pick whatever fits your requirements the best / whatever you like most. Depending on what features you need, there is something there for you. Pre-amp outs, multiple inputs, a portable option, balanced, whatever you want.

If you want to try tubes you can even substitute either of the Magni options for a Vali 2.

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>>57299297
>http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub
>poor fag
>what is the best bang for a little buck in terms of DAC and Amps

>>57314044
>>57313941
Go with Schiit. Made in America. No cheap ass components,

>>57314063
how much is a little buck and do you really need both?

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>>57314110
>dont need both atm, would rather have a DAC
>sub 100USD is little buck, but rather preffer 75ish

>>57309543
So what do you use?

>>57313984

Again, depends on your requirements, but there are a lot of things out there that could qualify as end game for many.

A Schiit Jotunheim with DAC could qualify as endgame for just about anyone. Even an Uber stack for that matter.

Something like an Oppo HA-1 might be endgame for someone else who wants the extra functionality. For someone else, a Geek Pulse.

I think that it's pretty well agreed that depending on the company around $1000 you stop getting any performance gains around $1000 total price (dac + amp) and start paying for esoteric designs, boutique components, fancy chassis, or limited production.

>>57314190
Well, maybe I should rephrase it.
What's the cheapest DAC/amp I could get to properly drive either the K712 pro or the HD650?
I was thinking cheaper than a schiit stack. Like I said I have a Fiio X3 but I'm not sure that would be enough

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>>57314083

I mean, this is what I use, so you don't have to tell me twice. I try to make sure I'm not shilling and only would suggest it to someone if they said they wanted to fuck around with tubes.

That said, at the risk of sounding like a shill anyway I do think Schiit makes a great product at any price point, and they're very straightforward about their more expensive equipment not necessarily being "better", rather they just tell you how it's different and leave it up to you.

>>57314246

Honestly, if you're going to spring for the HD650 I would highly recommend getting yourself either a Schiit stack or an O2+ODAC. Save your pennies a few extra weeks if you have to.

The FiiO will likely drive them, but it's just not as well made a piece of hardware as either of those two offerings which are considered the standard for being the minimum necessary to get the full potential out of your headphones, at any price point.

>>57314249
I use a modi uber and magni uber.

>>57314308

Oh, and for the record, I don't mean there's anything wrong with the X3. At it's pricepoint though, there are definitely going to be compromises in the amp and DAC hardware to free up production budget for the screen, controls, battery, etc.

>>57314308
What about the K712? I read they're relatively easy to drive like most AKG stuff
Already own a pair of K550's that I absolutely love.

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>>57314249
Is that blanket effective in keeping your chair from smelling like farts?

>>57314166
In regards to what?

>>57314246
>I'm not sure that would be enough
Why do you think that?

The cheapest option is to plug it straight into your phone. it works well enough for plenty of people, but not necessarily so.
The Fiio output is much more capable with being loaded than common headphone outputs. It should work very well.

>>57314377
>In regards to what?
Headphones

>>57314343

I had K702 before I got my Fostex and yes, they were relatively easy to drive. My phone could get them to a just barely loud enough listening level for average noise level environments while my computers on-board could get them to just-under-loud listening levels. Not sure how the K712 compare. I just wasn't personally a fan of the sound profile from the AKG's so I exchanged them.

That said, both sources had noise and interference issues and it wasn't until I got dedicated components that those issues went away.

>>57314352

Very effective, actually. It's a fake leather chair, so the blanket prevents it from being sticky and lets me wash the farts out on a regular basis easily.

>>57314249
Tx0RP Mk3s I see. Did you do anything to them besides new pads?

>>57314434

T50RP. So far just the new pads. I went with the lambskin alpha pads from MrSpeakers, and it changed the sound profile pretty noticeably in what for me was a very favorable way.

I've got a small box full of modding materials ready to go for when I start fucking with them, but I can't decide if I want to wait for more of other peoples measurements to become available, build a basic measurement rig myself, or just start fucking with it and find what sounds good to me without any kind of measurements.

>>57314389
These days I don't use headphones often. I still keep an HD 600. I did have a pair of HD 800 at one point, as well as dozens of other headphones.

>>57314339
>compromises in the amp and DAC hardware
The audio electronics expenses are a small portion of the price. It isn't a very big factor.

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My th02s died today, picked up some mdr zx110s for like 20 bucks

Pleasantly surprised, quite neutral sounding, just wish they didnt fold those models always seem to break more often for me

> Finally spotted someone wearing decent headphones
> It was a pair of Urbanite XL Wireless
Anyone else inspect everyone wearing headphones trying to spot the brand and the model?
Most of the shit I see are fake beats or crappy earbuds tho.

I haven't gotten a good pair before. Used whatever inexpensive ones I found for the longest time.

>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer and phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Whatever

>>57314944
Audio Technica M40x

>>57314944
NVX XPT100

>>57309725
Se eu fosse você daria uma olhada nos classificados do HT Forum, já comprei dois fones lá, eles tem muitos fones usados em ótimo estado a venda e por preços muito mais justos do que o cobrado pelas lojas.

A propósito, nenhum dos que você listou é grande coisa em termos de qualidade.

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So after a bit of research and deliberation, I finally bought my first pair of headphones. I decided on the audio technica ATH-M50x's

D-did I do good?

>>57315237
Shoulda got M40Xs with HM5 pads, cheaper and better sound (or at least more neutral frequency response).

>>57314652
Well I prefer headphones to other options so your opinion isn't helping me much.

>>57315237
you could have done better but you did ok

>>57315237
Nope. Have fun with your head clamp.

>>57308724
>upsampling in w10 sucks, in w7 it was fixed somewhat
what

>>57307501
It's just pure imagination, friend. Keep the bitrate of your DAC as close as possible to the source. I usually have 24 bit 44.1 kHz for most of my music, 24 bit 48 kHz when I play gaymes and I set the bitrate ti 24 bit 96 kHz when I listen to vynil/SACD rips.

>>57315966
>being autistic enough to change the sample rate every time instead of using a good resampler to make everything 44.1khz

>>57316023
> 2016
> being lazy

>>57316053
>being autistic

>Budget
$75-125
>Location
US
>Source
Basic laptop / HTC 10
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs
>Comfort level
Good level of comfort
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
SHP 9500s
Hifiman RE-400s

I basically just want something that sounds like RE-400s but with decent/good build quality that can last me a while. I've already gone through 2 RE-400s. I love them except for the fact that they're so prone to breaking.

Someone recommended Etymotic HF5 from the last thread but I don't like the deep insertion and how much they poke out.

>>57309759
>when you set the frequency too low and literally break your headphones

>>57316312
You really think running low frequency sine tone is going to damage your headphones in some way?

any thoughts on the beyerdynamic dt250? I've enjoyed my pair, and I like to use them when making music as they're quite neutral. Apparently they were used as studio monitors on tv setsm from a old top gear video I saw where one of the cameramen had a pair on

>>57315237
>>57316672

I bought some vsonic Gr07 MkII and the Bang & Olfsen Beoplay H6. Did I do good?

>>57314044
>JDS O2+ODAC
$279
>Jotunheim w/ DAC
$499
Apparently the O2 is about as good as you can get measurement wise. How/why should someone consider a Jotunheim?

>>57316767
what even is this thread? Headphone validation? Do you really want a stamp of approval from autists on /g/?

>>57316858
Because it does other stuff. Because you might prefer the looks. Because it's likely built better. Because it's upgrade-able.

O2+ODAC is smaller, cheaper and likely has lower noise floor.

Both are very well performing headphone amplifiers.

>>57316877
they don't sound good otherwise

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>>57316877
I was a madman and acted against my "did i do good/how'd i do" filter to reveal the post and replies. Thanks anon. Please continue to post this into every single thread on /g/ asking that and sage.

>>57316858

Chassis aesthetics, build quality, upgrade capacity, balanced operation, single ended and balanced inputs and outputs, warranty and support.

So, actually quite a few reasons for the right person. No reason for the wrong person.

>>57316916
why don't they sound good? Are there better headphones in the same price range?

>>57317084
sorry mate I usually have that filter on as well

I liked the OP picture though so I guess that's why im here

>>57300961

My amp isn't balanced and I don't want to make a custom cable for my cans.

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>>57317118
Apology accepted but I'd rate the OP pic as poor.

>>57306635

I remember my AKG K702 being incredibly comfortable. They feel a little different on the head than most headphones but I found that after a while if I was working on something I generally forgot they were on.

>>57307165
>Whoever recommended the Sennheiser HD series to me can eat shit and die.
You still didn't answer which HD?

>>57315237
Nope. M40x are cheaper and better.
Both are uncomfortable but with m40x you could have spent the rest on HM5 pads

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Has anyone used the HD600 or HD650? Will they work and sound good on a 3DS?

Ask will they sound good hooked up to a TV with no amp?

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>>57295753
Brazil-anon you still here? I got the PCM2704 today. I guess it's alright if your inboard audio ain't working. Sound quality is alright but I think my motherboard sounds better. Noise floor on the mini sound card is breddy bad with IEMs.

>>57317537
they need more power than that

I've read that AKG K240s may struggle to receive adequate power from some sources. Seeing as I plan on using them with a boompro with the source being my PC's front 3.5mm ports and my xbox controller (no dac, amp or anything of the sort), would this be a poor investment on my part?

>>57317678
>K240 with Boompro
I don't think that's even possible, the connector for the K240's removable cable isn't a 3.5mm jack.

>>57317711
>the connector for the K240's removable cable isn't a 3.5mm jack.

FUCK. The only headphones I've found that seem to be compatible are the shp9500, but I don't like how those pads aren't removable. This is starting to feel like a hell of a lot more trouble than it's worth, and I'm wondering if that 20 bucks I'd save on a boompro over a modmic is even worth it.

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>>57295753
Forget what I said earlier. If you have spare change get it. I really recommend buying it. It sounds great on headphones (solo 2 and k702).

>>57317537
Probably end up being a bit quiet from a 3DS.

>>57317720
I think the shp9500's are VERY comfortable, they don't clamp very much and just float on your head. The pads soak up sweat very easily though.

>>57317777
I've got a massive head, so I certainly like not having much in the way of clamping. The only headphones I've ever used on any regular basis are Panasonic HTF600, and they feel comfy enough for me. I just want something more neutral and open at a reasonable price.

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>>57295753
You posted this before right? Is there photos of the internals? Does it have capacitors like the yellow things in >>57317572 and >>57317740

I can't recommend buying this DAC box unless there's capacitors for safely inserting and removing your headphones.

Guys, what's the most fedora headphone?

>>57317751
>>57317537
You posted this on /vp/, the exact same things.

>>57317870
Grados. They're bad and have a fake vintage history. It looks like 1970s headphones but is made during 1990s.

>>57317872
?

>>57317896
They look pretty cool. I'm gonna get some and tell everyone that /hpg/ recommended to me.

>>57317931
No what the fuck. It's bad. You want the treble to come out of your eyes? That's how they are.

>>57317915
>>>/vp/29558885

>>57317942
TRY AND STOP ME BITCH.

>>57317720

I've got the modmic mounted on a pair of T50RP and it's a great setup.

>>57301234
No idea. I used to have the HD448. HD449 is a better version. The pads are real bad and peel after 1/2 a year. And still the HD449 could be much more expensive than HD419 in brazil.

>>57316906
>>57317107
Interesting. The Jotunheim was a thought of mine before seeing the cheaper O2

What is the purpose of an amp/dac? Seems like the headphone jack on my pc does the job well enough.

>>57315340
It's not that I would suggest the other options. After listening to hundreds of headphones, I have gotten weary of the latest flavor of the month.

>>57317537
The worst thing that happens is that they are too quiet.

>>57318502
Amp is short for amplifier. They amplify. DAC is an acronym: Digital analogue converter. They have no essential purpose to do anything besides that.
Usually we desire these be linear, free of noise and distortion, and have a flat transfer response. Musicians may disagree and use distortion for effect.

>>57318502
Amps provide proper power to your headphones. EG theyre not quiet enough or the impedance spikes in areas that onboard cant handle. Most people don't need one unless using headphones that are fairly hard to power so they end up being too quiet.

DACs provide better audio than onboard. Your onboard may be fine for you, but once you get onto higher end headphones it typically becomes a 'bottleneck' of sorts on the path to better audio. Onboard often has a higher noise floor, which is the main advantage of an external DAC [other than straight better conversion]

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>>57318502
Buy one of these >>57317572. I really think everyone here should get it. If you have AKG K702s and compare to onboard audio. It has more power than onboard. Btw I also have O2+ODAC. I'm happy with the little sound card.

Whatever I said about it being bad than motherboard was wrongly worded. Only because I used my hybrid balanced armature/dynamic IEMs on them first. There's no noise floor with cheaper IEMs.

>>57299297
>Budget
50 bucks
>Location
America
>Source
Old laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Ones that go on my head
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Maximum
>Preferred tonal balance
idk
>Past headphones
WalMart stuff

>>57318502
>Seems like the headphone jack on my pc does the job well enough.
To answer that part, if you don't have a problem, don't fix it.

>>57318606
Do you really believe the things you just posted?

>>57318672
More power on tap that isn't used is not useful.
>There's no noise floor with cheaper IEMs.
That doesn't really follow. Balanced armatures have sensitivity advantages over moving coils in the ear, but aren't terribly expensive themselves. Doesn't take into account tuning methods that affect transfer function, sensitivity as it might otherwise be called.

>>57318797
>Do you really believe the things you just posted?
Do you not?

>>57304084
Sí conozco mediaplayer, pero hubiera preferido una recomendación de producto y no de tienda.
Creo que compraré los shure se215.

>>57318812
Do you believe those statement to be correct? They are more audio myth than what would happen.

>>57318910
That wasn't coherent English.

>>57307817
Fiio Q1

What is the goddest tier headphone ever made?

>>57319035
Probably the Orpheus.

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>>57319035
€100,000 Focal Utopia

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>>57319049
>>57319060
Just make sure you have the correct crystal to cancel out any longitude related interference

>>57318502
On my motherboard's output my hd598's lack dynamic range, frequency range extension and detail.

On my DAC/AMP they do not.

This isn't to say that every motherboard is bad, or that every amp is worth its asking price, only that if you have good headphones and music your motherboard may be a source of limitation.

>>57308994
Nice to see another fellow Aussie in the hobby on this board.

What would you say is the upper limit for diminishing returns on DAC/AMP? What about headphones? What's the best bang for buck headphone you would recommend for someone who wants neutrality for monitoring?

House of Marley Jamaica or JBL Grip 100?

>>57314083
>Schiit. Made in America. No cheap ass components,
Already made PCB, caps on pcb, chips on pcb, rsistors etc. etc. - come from china
I'm not even sure they make aluminium box in US, probably comes from china as well. Maybe they print cardboard packaging in US, maybe.

All they do is assemble it in USA and up sale it from 150 that it costs to 200 by selling it separately as a stack.

>>57314164
smsl m3
most connections per USD and sounds exactly as good as e10k

>>57314246
there is always smsl m6 option which has same components as schiit stack inside but costs 50 less

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>>57315927

>>57319651
>Already made PCB, caps on pcb, chips on pcb, rsistors etc. etc. - come from china
No they use an American based supplier. That's why the boards have a red solder mask.

You're a fucking idiot assuming Schiit just slaps a made in USA sticker on it.

All the caps I've seen on Murata and the parts are equally high quality.

>>57308168
Why don't you clean that shit, fucking gross.

>>57319718
take your modi apart, read the numbers and letters on caps and vrms and chips
google it

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>>57299297
V-Moda Crossfade M100's reporting in.
Great headphones, no difference in audio quality when used over bluetooth or hard wired, amazing battery life.

Moving out in a few weeks, so forgive the laptop setup.

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>>57319802
>trying to tell me Murata is chink
That's a Panasonic brand btw, kiddo.

>>57319706
and now show me the same on windows 7

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Which?

>>57319706
What about mac osx?

>>57319942
The V-Moda's

>>57319841
>Panasonic brand
where were they fabbed?
the only thing that matters

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>>57319928
can show you linux

>>57320156
Not china, kiddo. Not Murata.

>>57319971
osx resamples everything
you have no control over it like asio or wasapi
no idea how well

>>57320178
any proof of that?

>>57319288
Australia is an interesting place for headphones. Almost always cheaper to import, and all you see is Beats. Yet I've gotten some nice trades from people in Melb CBD.

Honestly, past the Joutunheim, you're spending like 10 dollars for 0.5% of an increase
Realistically, the o2+o-dac/schiit stack/whatever alternatives that sound roughly the same are more than enough for anyone.

For bang for your buck in monitoring, you really can't get any better than MDR 7506's. They're the industry standard. There are some Shure alternatives too, but they're a bit pricier.

>>57320177
that is not at all relevant to windows 10 vs windows 7 upsampling. i already know about archimago's blog.

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>>57319971

>>57320150
Alright.

>>57320213
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2653312

have no idea if they fixed this again in w10

>>57320199
I'm not underage or fucking retarded.

>>57320266
again, all the evidence is just in a 'hotfix' microsoft released as opposed to any measurements alluding to the fact.

why don't you stop parroting shit you read and actually cite your claims properly?

>>57320211
>Honestly, past the Joutunheim, you're spending like 10 dollars for 0.5% of an increase
Past the Hifimediy Sabre DAC or some other cheap external DAC, you are spending any amount on money for a 0% audible increase

>>57320305
so you have no idea where they were made, okay

>>57320408
http://www.murata.com/en-us

>>57320211
Would you consider the Jout to be worth the extra $200 or so dollars?

Is putting your phone ontop of your DAC or near it bad? Sometimes I can hear a buzz buzz beep. What is this called and is it bad?

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>>57299297
Purchase advice needed, can't find anything that really speaks to me when I google shit up.

>$250
>Canada
>Optical
>Wired ( No USB or wireless )
>Closed
>Somewhat comfortable
>Past headphones: Skullcandy Basscrusher

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Have a bunch of headphones but now want some earphones for portability and not too expensive since they always seem to break after a bit

>Budget
Similar price to Apple earpods so approx $30aud? best bang for Buck though

>Location
Australia

>Source
Phone

>Preferred type of headphone
Wanting a style like earpods. not the ones with the rubber balls that go directly in the ear. They never seemed to fit me and always felt awkward

>Open or closed
Guess they end up being open

>Comfort level
Like I said no in ear ones as I don't find them comfortable

>Preferred tonal balance

>Past headphones
Some cheap Sony ones and the Apple earpods. Old Apple earphones were crap

>>57320677
EMI and it's bad in a sense you can hear beeps, if it doesn't annoy the hell out of you keep it on dac

>>57320445
>zero factories in US
>16 plants in japan
>6 plants in china
>1 plant in singapoore
>1 factory in EU

>cmedia fabbed in china
>akm fabbed in japan or china

MADE IN USA!

>>57320489
Depends on your income and what you spend it on really. The Jout is nice due to both a great DAC and because it can power the sun. But really youre paying for more extras and a single unit.

Its pointless as just an amp tho. Not sure why they offer that config.

Personally, I like it, but for the money its really not that great of an increase. You'd be better off spending the ~$200 on better headphones.

>>57320677
It's not bad perse. It won't cause damage to anything. It's just annoying. I get the same thing when my phone is receiving/sending data and its on my lap near a cable.

>>57321639
>Not sure why they offer that config.
because it's a good fully balanced amp that has a lot of power and doesn't cost 4 digits.

i'm not sure why they even include the trashy DAC, it's not better than a sabre dac you can pick up for $20-30

>>57314831
When I take the train to Sydney, I occasionally see CIEMs. Last friday I saw K3003s.

>>57299297
>Budget
< $100 flexible
>Location
UK
>Source
Bluetooth
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM with flanged earseals
>Preferred tonal balance
Bass > mids > highs
>Past headphones
Vansky bluetooth headphones. They sound okay for the price but are really uncomfortable and play sounds like "bluetooth is connected" at full volume.

Is there a bluetooth headset that doesn't play stupid messages or at least plays them quietly?

>>57319256
What does dynamic range even mean in headphones? How is the bandwidth altered?

>>57309995
They're great, love the soundstage they have.