Is free software communism or socialism?
Neither.
>>57325285
Neither I'd say. You can still make money from free software.
>>57325285
it's freedom
>>57325285
Neither. Free software doesn't preclude ownership. In fact free software is based on strong copyright law.
>>57325309
You can still make money from communism and socialism too.
>>57325295
Wrong, both
Free as in freedom. You can still charge money for free software. It just means you can alter it to your specific needs. Wake up sheeple.
>>57325312
>doesn't preclude ownership
Neither does communism or socialism
>>57325285
This question doesn't make any sense. Software is information. Socialism and communism are economic systems that work with an economy (a scarcity).
>>57325285
It's communism. At least the GPL is.
>>57325332
Yes they do.
>>57325349
This
>>57325350
>an 100% valid legal structure existing within a capitalist doctrines
>communism
no
copyright, patents and software licenses are artificial scarcity for pushing creation and innovation
>>57325410
Well, only copyright and patents. A software license is only a contract.
>>57325349
this is absolutely true, but also why its an issue. Closed software, patent laws, and in a true sense the militarization and hording of information is all based on a vague idea that you can view information as a commodity, or that it can scale or be traded on a one to one basis, but the problem is that you can't and the transference of information itself actually changes its content as viewed person to person. So in reality its more akin to commissioning artwork than anything. But because the biggest companies nowadays with billions+ evaluations are all based on this, and governments try to store and collect information as if its an actionable concrete thing, it puts a bind on the very premise of 'ownership' in any way, societal or individual.
>>57325410
but this is kind of an oxymoron, because creating information has to come from a derived source, let me put it like this how many blues songs have you ever heard that are substantially different from any other blues songs. and if you said at any given point no this pattern of three chords is 'mine' how long before the genre dies. patents don't make creativity, they stifle it.
>>57325285
Gommunism.
>>57325285
Is free as in free market. Copyright laws are cancer.
>>57325285
>GPL communist
Is US patent law communist?
>>57325285
It's stallmanism.
>>57325285
Communism and socialism imply a central authority within a community.
Freedom in itself implies some form of liberalism or perhaps radicalist anarchy.
I'd define free software as individualism, in the sense of existential freedom.
>>57325400
>existing within a capitalist doctrines
No. It exists within socialist doctrines
>>57325285
More akin to anarchism I'd wager, what with people freely sharing information to use and manipulate as they see fit, with utility and satisfaction taking precedence to market concerns. Though the question is kind of obnoxious.
>>57326182
i agree with this, but is it really anarchism if people are in agreement on something? Its not socialism, its not capitalism its just "hey this is cool"
>you own what you purchase
It's total capitalism.
>>57326378
Yeah ad hoc consensus based projects is kindof the bread and butter of left anarchism. Or it is supposed to be, ideally. In reality left anarchism has become more about subcultural ghettos and putting people on blast for supposed microaggressions in order to maximize one's social capital.
t. Bitter ex left anarchist
>>57325285
free software is freedom, communism/socialism is shit.
>>57325285
It's not communism or socialism. It is a social construct, however, because it incentivizes people to collaborate if they want to use the code.
>but this is socialism
No, it's not.
>but it's communism
No, it's not.
Cooperation is neither socialism or communism. Even animals cooperate. A pride of lions will take down a gazelle, because 5 of them together are more effective than a single lion alone trying to scratch out a living on the Savannah.
The difference between lions and a human being is that humans are the only animals that are often asshats. The BSD license does not account for asshats. The GPL does.
/pol/
This thread is almost /pol/.
>picture
Savannah.
>Guys.
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>Serious question here.
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