>we need more women in tech why

"diversity is good"

>>57322050
Because I'm sick and tired of dealing with fat autists with a complete lack of people skill and common courtesy who needs HR to babysit them

>>57322050
They usually are good at fancying up the work place and make it smell less of man

Someone needs to make the drinks

>>57322087
They are still not going to fuck you anon

Diversity. It's important that women make up at least 50% of the people in the tech industry. Why? Because white men have been oppressing everyone else for billions of years!

>>57322108
Doesn't matter, I can speak to them as normal humans instead of having to conform to arbitrary autistic routines

>>57322087
>>57322088
these two, pretty much.

>>57322318
Except you get trannies that stink just as much and are even more autistic.

File: paybycheck.png (399KB, 420x420px) Image search: [Google]

399KB, 420x420px

>more women in tech is a bad idea because...

>>57322335
Clearly they would have joined on their own if they were interested?

i'd rather work with a bunch of autistic devs than a woman

>>57322087
>who needs HR
Literally who?

File: 20100516.gif (90KB, 504x1005px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 504x1005px

>>57322343
Sure...

>>57322362
xDDDDDDD

>>57322050
Because I'm sick of sweaty manboobs. Fuck it, if I have to see titty, I'd rather the flesh attached didn't smell like balls and doritos.

File: 1476330447455.png (2MB, 1500x2260px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1500x2260px

>>57322343

But they have, anon.

>>57322349
women do so they can say they work "in the tech industry"

>>57322373
What is the point of this shitpost?

File: 1477729689387.jpg (50KB, 640x636px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 640x636px

>>57322362
damn you, patriarchy!

A misinformed though well intentioned sense of equality. If you operate on the premise of males having unjust control over a certain field, you're likely to advocate dismantling it.

The argument boils down to "women aren't 50% of tech jobs, thus there is a problem that needs proactive action taken rectify, (treating inequality of outcome as a social disease), vs "women aren't 50% of tech, but when given their own choice, less women choose tech." (valuing equality of opportunity, not outcome.)

Is there a "problem" with equality in western society? Not really, when you look at the legislation and common social attitudes. I'd argue the problem lies within the population convinced a lack of representation equates to a lack of opportunity.

>>57322378
>using badass unironically
and feminists wonder why no one takes them seriously?

File: 1477910231824.jpg (82KB, 766x664px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 766x664px

>>57322378
Wow 7 women!

>>57322388

Eh, nothing wrong with it, I suppose. The problem starts way earlier, I think, with girls being discouraged from pursuing technical careers and activities, but it seems like that is gradually closing up.

I think progressives are just impatient. They don't just want more women in tech, they want women to be VISIBLY in tech, which will conceivably inspire more girls to go into the field. I don't really think shit works that way. John Carmack gave a pretty pithy response when asked why Oculus had so few women. His answer was that the skillset and knowledge that he needed was so advanced, he was having difficulty finding qualified employees period.

Everything changes. Tech will change, women will change. I think it would be an objectively good thing if women joined STEM fields as much as men, but I don't think it's fair to blame employers (well, not ALL employers) for the discrepancy.

>>57322050
so they can finally shut the fuck up about it

>>57322476
>>57322362
>when you're a beta male with a webcomic

File: 1475395571604.jpg (73KB, 604x453px) Image search: [Google]

73KB, 604x453px

>>57322543
Explain.

>>57322050
More opportunities for us to get laid.

>>57322543
not an argument

>>57322050
what industry do you work in that has just guys, I'm curious

>>57322362
Wow, it's not like they tried to do the opposite in Norway but girls didn't give a shit about it.

>>57322554
They are webcomics made by beta males.

>>57322590
You are too worried about what other people think of you, looks like you're the beta male here.

>>57322565
I want to work with qualified people, not meme diversity people.

File: 1311763499070.jpg (31KB, 300x354px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 300x354px

>>57322600
>women can't be qualified

>>57322590
But XKCD has a very large readership and is quite famous (by reasonable standards), isn't this alpha? this gives him more social sway than most, or if he is beta, surely that makes you, an anonymous shitposter. Omega?

because you'd get twice as much done with twice as many people in tech

>>57322335

For the same reason we shouln't have let them into anything else in the first place: it increases the workforce supply without raising the demand for it, which makes salaries plummet.

Not to mention the damage it does to the traditional family: parents can't afford to have as many kids as they could in the past because both of them have to go out to work, they don't earn as much as they used to and they have to hire a sitter, all of this means kids spend less time with their parents and are screwed up in the process, etc. etc. etc....

All the problems of post-modernity are due to feminism.

>>57322343
>>57322362
Women don't join because they're aware that if they do join everyone and their mom is going to point out the fact that they're a woman in tech, so when they just start out and don't know much theyre not going to feel comfortable trying things/asking questions etc. because they know everyone's gonna think "oh of course she asks such babymode questions she's a woman, why are all women in tech such garbage"


plus most of the time when guys get into technology at a young age they have friends who do it as well/encourage it. for a girl to get into it when shes young/get as experienced as everyone else in tech implies she'd be willing to do it even though literally none of her friends and noone she knows irl does it. if you're like 13 you're not gonna throw away virtually any chance at finding stuff in common with your peers just so you can pursue a higher good of computer science

>>57322065

It is good.

Why? Because it solves problems faster, makes people think differently and why not?

Lets not forget women use tech and it's competitive advantage to have folks who understand a big chunk of your customers. Having women who understand technical issues and implement them is a huge help.

There is no good reason more women aren't in tech, it's completely because of socialization.

Plus I don't really want to work with dudes all day every day.

File: stirner.png (766KB, 600x709px) Image search: [Google]

766KB, 600x709px

>>57322662

>>57322378
>first female computer programmer
This is retarded, "first computer programmer" makes her work seem way more outstanding and is a better description of her work, if they want to sell the women in tech thing.

>>57322612
So are all the qualified women not looking for jobs in tech for some reason?

File: trini3.jpg (17KB, 500x375px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 500x375px

>>57322662
Somebody please tell me this is satire.

File: 1476330478337.jpg (30KB, 362x328px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 362x328px

>>57322694

Women were the first computers too.

>>57322682
>Because it solves problems faster

Pray tell, how does being female make you solve problems faster?

Same reason we needed women in all the other occupations- to make labour cheaper.

File: 1476330637969.png (87KB, 649x614px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 649x614px

>>57322738

They empirically do, why though - the scientists are still working on that. Most scientists are men though, so don't hold your breath, this might take a while.

>>57322754

Oh well if MailOnline says its true then it must be

>>57322087
>convenience > performance
>in the tech industry.
Fucking kill yourself you god damn degenerate.

>>57322769
>genetic fallacy
>numerous grammar mistakes in the process
You aren't helping the boys' cause, anon.

>>57322362
Strawman

We don't. It's a pretty obvious tactic by certain groups to further their own interests.

>>57322754
yea bullshit, women are not creative thinkers

>>57322783

That's your argument? You really are a woman.

File: 3008216-inline-screen-shot-2013-08-15-at-125720-pm.png (120KB, 632x471px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 632x471px

>inb4 le women are bad at math meme

>>57322783
>study by sussex university
It's not even cited. That article is as accurate as anything else said on 4chan

A study by City of Leeds University shows that people who post tabloid articles thinking that they're even remotely correlated with reality are pretty fucking dumb.

>>57322769
Whoa whoa, careful there, MailOnline is a reputable anon reviewed paper. Papers are scientific right? You always see smarties publishing papers!

File: choose-the-right-candidate1.jpg (174KB, 983x821px) Image search: [Google]

174KB, 983x821px

>>57322781

But picking a woman instead of a man will often help you make the best choice, anon.

>>57322622
Wow, are you retarded.

>>57322318
Yep, not even gonna lie, men are messy as fucking shit.
>>57322274
Top kek, this is almost as funny as that time someone was testing a starter motor without bolting it down so it jumped right up off the bench and onto their foot with the heroin fueled rage of 1000 angry Mexicans jumping over he border

I run a small business and every woman I've interviewed has been turned down. They say "like" too much, they speak with vocal fry, they whine about everything, and never get shit done on time unless you make create an environment that's stressful. I fucking hated it.

My male employees get shit done, they don't argue about trivial shit, they aren't annoying to listen to, and most importantly they're reliable.

Women belong in the kitchen, not in the office.

>>57322050
To fuck, why else would anyone want to hire specifically women?

"We need to hire women" = "I need to dip my peen during work hours"

>>57322894
I also get this with a lot of women, where they love to talk about problems, or write reports on them, but never get any actual problems solved.
I blame social sciences.

>>57322050
Here's the neo-4chan answer:
>DA JOOWS YES GOY DIVERSITY IS GOOD x-DDDDDD
>WHITE OPPRESSION x--DDDDDDD
>LE BETA KEKS

Here's the reality:
Tax cuts, grants (mostly for colleges/universities), and better low-risk pretty-much-free improvements in public image just for hiring women, not even including minorities of either gender.

There's also some weird form of guilt because programming had Grace Hopper and no one else prominent since in terms of extreme female contribution to the field, and there actually used to be a higher percentage of females involved in tech. In this same space, there's also this weird double standard of "SHE'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL GIRLY GIRL SO SHE'S NOT A PROPER FEMALE PROGRAMMER"; meanwhile Rachel Appel and Kate Gregory own but apparently they're not cool enough to the loud white betas at the wheel of this """movement""" to be considered positive role models.

>>57322894

I run a small business and every man I've interviewed has been turned down. They say "dude" too much, they speak growling, they rant about everything, and never get shit done on time unless you make create an environment that's problematic. I fucking hated it.

My female employees get shit done, they don't rant about trivial shit, they aren't irritating to listen to, and most importantly they're reliable.

Men belong in the coal mines, not in the office.

>>57322274
Men have been "oppressing" women in the mining and garbage collecting. But you don't see anyone making a fuss for 50% gender distribution at those jobs, do you?

There are less women in tech because there are less women qualified for it. For example at my university, the ratio of men-women is like 70%-30% and most of the best students are males.

Worth the read

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html

>>57322050
For the same reason women should not be at home raising children and cleaning their entire life; because we can make the economy grow. Women and men are different in many ways and can see things from different angles.

>>57322957

The difference is my post reflects reality.

>>57322966
>capitalism forces men to work demeaning jobs
>let's blame women instead
Wow, this is a strong contender for dumbest post of the year award.

>>57322982
Why have children if you're not willing to take care of them? Or do you want some stranger taking care of your children and staying inside of your house all day?

>>57322996

Sure, keep telling yourself that.

>>57322957

The women at my firm serves as eye candy (and maybe cum dump if it comes down to that).

>>57322957
>Meanwhile, in the real world
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html

>>57322982
They should

File: l916ellgzsvg2wlql2yk.jpg (191KB, 2048x1536px)

191KB, 2048x1536px

>>57322966
Well, you don't wanna vote for the woman who wants to end the coal industry, so you only have yourself to blame for that.

>>57323018
>real world
>daily mail
The two could not be more incompatible

>>57323016
Edgy. But both of us know there's no "firm", you never really leave mum's basement.

>>57323010

If you don't like it, then start your own company and prove me wrong, sweetheart.

>>57323036
Nice argument

>>57322978
>>57323018

Oh well, if DailyMail says it's true, then it must be.

>>57322982
>THE ECONOMY
This retardation needs to stop, I'm tired of everyone parroting about the economy and entire countries doing retarded shit like building appartments nobody will ever buy just to keep money moving.
Quality of life, that's the index you want to increase, the economy is only relevant if it contributes. If you're making a bazillion dollars but everyone is dying of cancer because of pollution, you can choke on a dick.

>>57323045
>prove me wrong
Burden of proof, numbskull.

File: wailord_used_leer.jpg (10KB, 244x189px)

10KB, 244x189px

>>57322677
Huh, it's like people's peers affect their personalities, weird.

>>57323040
>mum

gtfo brit

>>57323051
So this article is fake?

>>57322682
>There is no good reason more women aren't in tech
It's because they don't want to.
There is fucking nothing stopping them from going into tech anymore. Quite the contrary, they constantly get encouraged to do it and they would have no problem finding a job because all those companies are obsessed with raising their women quota.

The only reason they don't go into tech is because they have no interest in it.

>>57323086
>what is a tabloid?

>>57323086

Depends, is this one >>57322754 fake?

The new students on my CS study have a 3:80 women to men ratio. In my year it was 100% men.

>>57322677
>plus most of the time when guys get into technology at a young age they have friends who do it as well/encourage it.
No, not really.
You generally get misstreated by everyone for being a pale nerdy loser that doesn't play in the sun with the other kids.
And you know, we accepted that, and suffered, and now are where we are with good salaries. But no, everyone needs to put a fucking flower carpet so women can get here easily, and get encouraged to do things.
Complete bullshit.

>>57322050
don't ask questions goyim.

File: 1476330394405.jpg (2MB, 4800x3750px)

2MB, 4800x3750px

>>57323096

Stop spreading that myth, please.

>>57322966
>There are less women in tech because there are less women qualified for it.
It's not even that. My university has no entrance exams for these kind of fields, yet they are heavily dominated by men from the very first semester.

Women just don't like those fields.

>>57323036
top kek

> tfw u help girls in physics class and she still ends up with a C

>>57322662
do people actually believe this?

>>57323106
Neither are fake, but one is written by the usual idiots that don't understand shit about sample sizes, biases, yadda yadda.

>>57322950
>they love to talk about problems, or write reports on them, but never get any actual problems solved.
Christ, they really do, don't they?

>woman bitches about a problem she's having
>tell her how to fix it, even offer her help fixing it
>gets angry because she didn't want the problem to be fixed, she just wanted someone to listen to her complaints

>>57323061

>how does logic work?

Your female brain is showing. You're upset reality doesn't conform to your beliefs, and you don't like it when others point it out to you. That's understandable.

You shouldn't use grown up phrases like "burden of proof" though, love. They mean something other than what you think they mean.

>>57323130
>no source
Opinion discarded.

>>57323130
>axis doesn't even mention what it's showing
>no source

>>57323195

you mean having a Cartesian graph background doesn't make it science?

>>57322662

Because countries with traditional families like in the middle-east are doing so well aren't they? Go move to any country where feminism hasn't had a major impact yet, I fucking dare you.

>>57323212

show us your tits

>>57323164
>Girlfriend complains about her body image problems for years, and how she can't solve them because they are psychological and not physical
>Of course telling her to just do something about it results in denial
>... OK
>I start going to the gym to see if she picks up
>She does pick some interest in doing something after I start to get some gains 6 months in
>Explain to her how calories work
>She loses 10 kgs in a few months because it's fucking easy math
>Feels a lot better about herself now
God dammit woman it was this fucking easy

My current challenge for her is to learn to play Dwarf Fortress by the end of the year. It's been two months and she has read a lot of guides but refuses to start the game because she is initimidated by it.
JUST

>>57323178
This.

If they are so much better at everything, just let them fund their own companies. They should easily BTFO of their competition.

The fact that they have to keep begging established companies to hire them because muh vagina already shows that they do not believe they could make it on their own. Doesn't even matter if they could, but clearly they don't believe in it.

>>57322087
Oh yeah, hiring women will help with that!

>>57322362
>That English
Jesus Christo

>>57323236
>>Explain to her how calories work

This one is infuriating as shit.
>lift so I have to cut like once or twice per year
>"Wow Anon, I wish I could lose weight as quickly as you"
>tell them how it works, that it is fairly simple and so on
>complete denial, just go "haha, no, it must be genetic" and other bullshit excuses along that line
>instead they proceed with their fad diet that is multiple times more complicated and time consuming to follow but shows zero progress

>>57322438
what is the point of your pic? he is not a woman

>>57323001
No one used the word "blame". You completely missed his point.

File: tits.png (291KB, 768x510px)

291KB, 768x510px

>>57323230

Pic related. My tits.

>>57323186
>>57323195
>what is reverse google image search?

>>57323295
Why should I search for the source? YOU should provide it.
>female logic
>not even once

File: femka22.jpg (24KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 480x480px

>>57322050
becouse the jews and hillary want you to
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9765

>>57323277

Your tits are lovely. Now get naked, take pictures of your naked body, and then post them here so we can decide whether or not you are valuable.

>>57323305

Because you're the only one who has something to lose by not finding out the truth.

>>57323178
>reality
You keep using that word...

>>57323318
I actually have nothing to lose because it is not me bitching that we need more women in the industry.

>>57323268
I blame the education system. It's the same reason we still get retards who think evolution isn't a fact and other idiocy.
>Ey we have this weight loss method that has been used by everyone for decades and throughly examined, has many publications backing it, yadda yadda
>No thx I'll follow this bullshit that was posted on a magazine with no proof, GENETICS!

>>57323318
I will accept this loss wholeheartedly. And now XOR yourself.

>>57323329

Stay ignorant then.

File: nakedbodyparts.jpg (43KB, 1295x620px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 1295x620px

>>57323315

Done.

>>57322343
Interests don't develop out of thin air. You weren't born liking computers, it is a very complex combination of environmental factors that led to it.

Women have different environmental factors, because they are segregated at a young age and socialized to value different situations and processes.

It is a self-perpetuating phenomenon. Basically this >>57322362

>>57322894
This is another big reason

File: lmao.jpg (27KB, 500x309px)

27KB, 500x309px

>>57323333

XOR myself to what, you fucking moron?

>mfw males are so dumb they don't even know XOR is a binary operator, not unary

>>57323351
do you live in fucking Saudi Arabia or something?

>>57323351
>we need to force women to like computers

lolk

>>57323352
>dumbest post of the year
I am out. I can waste my time with something better than a butthurt woman who cannot even get into simple tech.

>>57323348

Not bad but I'm gonna need to see your butt hole before I can say for sure

File: ever_since_I_left_the_city_GNU.png (322KB, 671x652px)

322KB, 671x652px

>>57323380
>I am out
Good. Stay out.

>>57323352
Fuck yourself: you FUCK you
XOR yourself: you XOR you = 0 = amount of neurons working in your head

>>57323360
I'm not talking about explicit regulations, but social norms.

Do you believe that you're 100% free and have total control over everything that's ever influenced you, especially during childhood?

If you do, that's just you being influenced with liberal american ideology. The sooner you realize it, the sooner you can have a more rational view of the world.

>>57323372
If you expand the meaning of "force" to include basic socialization, then everyone is forced to like everything they like.

>>57323178
>how does logic work?
By proving your own claims instead of telling someone to disprove them, you fucking moron.

>>57322682
Tbh we need to be less general about this for those who are really questioning this notion.

>Lets not forget women use tech and it's competitive advantage to have folks who understand a big chunk of your customers
One does not need to be feminine in order to understand one who is any more than one needs to be a cat in order to understand a cat.
Saying things like this is not really helpful since this thinking leads to fruitless arguments and, in any case, leaves out all of the other genders that actually exist.

That aside, nothing about human / computer interfaces changes based on the gender of the human. This is evidenced by the observation that, regardless of genders involved in any given UX design, we have not seen any attempts made at detecting the gender identity of the user
Computers tend to be indifferent like that.

>There is no good reason more women aren't in tech, it's completely because of socialization.
There actually are a few good reasons, one of them can be that a sizable percentage of women in decide tech is uninteresting early in college.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2015/03/16/the-real-reason-most-women-dont-go-into-tech/#3ab870f131c3
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markfidelman/2012/06/05/heres-the-real-reason-there-are-not-more-women-in-technology/#7bb825f941e9
This is not to say that all is necessarily right with the world just because we can find some examples to offer an alternate answer. However, this does suggest that we may not have an accurate assessment of the situation yet.
If what this statement is intended to mean is >There is no good PHYSICAL reason more women aren't in tech
then I agree. However, that is true of many jobs done mostly by men.

>Plus I don't really want to work with dudes all day every day.
I think this is a fine reason for any dude to want to boost the number of women in his chosen profession. We should highlight this more with those who are on the fence.

>>57323409
No, your fucking proposal is to take the current socialization that forms their personality and replace them with another socialization that would form another personality that is more to your liking.

Only that the first "just happens" with no political intention behind it while yours is basically trying social engineering on a country wide scale.

I am glad you will waste your life making bait threads on 4chan rather than getting into an influential position because you are even worse than libertarians.

>>57323409
So basic socialization means women get magically qualified for tech positions? Do you even read what you post?

>>57323438
>all of the other genders that actually exist

????

>>57322050
The meet the quota that our SJW LGBT-activist HR created

>>57323438
>That aside, nothing about human / computer interfaces changes based on the gender of the human.
Actually, girls have smaller hands and fingers, which is relevant in touch interfaces. But generally all design assumptions are done on the lower bound/upper bound type for a mixed population.

>>57322894
>I run a small business and every woman I've interviewed has been turned down.
>They say "like" too much, they speak with vocal fry, they whine about everything, and never get shit done on time unless you make create an environment that's stressful
How is it that you seem to have such a strong opinion on women in the workplace when, as far as you have indicated, you never allow women to work with you?

Thomas Sowell points out that the big problem is you can't measure equality by the outcome.
Even with everything completely equal between sexes and races, if certain groups of people don't have as strong an interest in a field for what ever reason, they aren't going to study it and therefore aren't going to be job candidates for that field.
So you can either force people to study something they don't like or force companies to hire people who don't really have the skills for the job.
Either way is tyranny for the sake of what? Meeting the arbitrary racial/sexual quotas and demands ironical set forth by people who don't have any marketable skills so they have to create "problems" because bitching about "problems" is all they know how to do.
This is all central planning commie shit anyway which should be ignored.
People should be free to study what they want and companies should be free to hire the best people for the job and just let the cards fall where they may. As long as someone isn't prevented from doing something they have the abilities to do, you don't have an actual problem, just a professional grievance industry.

>>57323409
>I'm not talking about explicit regulations, but social norms.
Ok, so nothing serious.
I don't like Metal music. I was never really exposed to it, which is probably the reason. Should we make children get more exposed to a diverse musical environment?

>>57322050
>why

Status. Whenever there's some absurd and counterproductive social behavior it's always about gaining status through virtue signaling.

No one cared about nerd stuff like computers until it started bringing the big dosh. (Just as they don't care about female auto mechanics, female miners, female construction workers, etc. which are almost nonexistent)

>>57323001
To >>57323273 's point I will add that you seem to be applying two different mindsets to this problem based merely on the gender of the subject in question.

Why would it be capitalism that forces men to work demeaning jobs while is it men that force women not to work more rewarding jobs?
Would it not be the same or at least similar forces at work on both genders?

Bitches think a tech job means they can get paid for fucking around on Facebook and Instagram all day.

>>57323130
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/13/opinions/williams-ceci-women-in-science

>>57323585
Yeah, pretty much this.

>>57323575
>implying capitalism isn't the problem across the board
>implying capitalism isn't the work of greedy men

>>57323525

I said I've turned down all the ones I've interviewed. The women I'm talking about have been women that worked for companies I've subcontracted.

We need more female miners, fishermen, garbage collectors, frontline soldiers, sewage workers etc.

Ofc you'll never see the feminists and their numale orbiters demand this

Feminism - only applies when it provides benefits to women

Whoa...spoopy theme appeared when I refreshed.

File: ivotedforberniesanders.jpg (85KB, 439x746px)

85KB, 439x746px

>>57323604

I can't tell if the people saying that women are better at tech stuff than men are self-absorbed women or just basement-dwellers shilling for a date.

>>57322050
Women are so much easier to talk to then some fuckwit who keeps challenging my every fucking decision even though they themselves know I'm correct. It's infuriating. And even when women correct me, they don't keep shoving it in my face when I'm like "Oh shit, you're right." (unless they're some shitty feminist)

File: discarded.jpg (146KB, 971x817px) Image search: [Google]

146KB, 971x817px

>>57323699

>so much easier to talk to then some fuckwit
>then some fuckwit
>then

>>57323596
If CNN says it's true then it OBVIOUSLY is!

>>57323573
this

>>57323716
Than.
Fuck you it's 6 AM

>>57323604
I agree that capitalism can be a problem and that, when it is, it tends to be a problem across all industries and social groups. (except the very rich ofc)
And this may indeed be the root issue but that would be a discussion about either less capitalism or more female robber barons not about gender disparities in specific jobs.

>>57323612
Maybe you get shit sub-contractors that are hiring random female candidates just to meet affirmative action quotas?

>tech needs more diversity, diversity is good :DD
Chinese programmers leave, everyone sighs in relief and switches right back to Finnish for 500% more efficient communication.

>tech needs more women, women are good :DD
The only woman programmer leaves, everyone sighs in relief and uses parables to make ideas clear that would be sexist and unacceptable, increasing communicating efficiency 200%.

Truly the worst era to be in tech. These ebin social justice maymays are suicidal. Can't imagine a single startup actually taking this stupid shit for real surviving more than series A funding allows.

>>57323805
>Arbitrary exaggerated numbers to make it seem like all a good thing
Do another fallacy, motherfucker. I dare you.

>>57322543

What's really ironic is that hysterically overreacting to the slightest perceived thread to your imagined social standing is in reality the most beta trait of them all, like everyone in this thread, for example.

File: 186696.jpg (10KB, 150x150px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 150x150px

>>57322662
wtf am i readin

>>57322087
>Be socially retarded autist
>find a career that involve's little interaction with normies
>actually become good enough to compete for a job
>Normies decide to pervert the meritocratic system so they can look at pretty girls in place of sharing a building with me

YOUR THIRST CAN NEVER BE QUENCHED!

File: stallman.jpg (127KB, 500x333px)

127KB, 500x333px

>>57323996
>meritocratic

>>57323212

But the Middle East is fucked up due to American and NATO imperialist interventionism and Israeli expansionism, anon. Not because of the traditional family.

cheap, domestic labor

domestic = company doesn't have to sponsor visa

>>57324044

A large part of colonialism and neo-colonialism was putting in place strongly hierarchical power structures. This makes it easier to control the people. The "traditional family" is part of that system of control.

>>57323455
>No, your fucking proposal is to take the current socialization that forms their personality and replace them with another socialization that would form another personality that is more to your liking.

Nah, you yourself read malicious intent into it. What this type of 'engineering' entails is simply reaching out. Giving people more options.

The types of socialization I'm referring to are in the form of a barrier. They segregate. My proposal, in as far as I have proposed anything, is to remove the barrier.

>Only that the first "just happens" with no political intention behind it while yours is basically trying social engineering on a country wide scale.

Muh social engineering

>I am glad you will waste your life making bait threads on 4chan rather than getting into an influential position because you are even worse than libertarians.

I've been opening 4chan on a monthly basis for the last five years. Hasn't had a huge impact on my life. I don't reply very often. But I do when the /pol/ brigadists can easily be shown they're ridiculous and irrational.

>>57323564
>Should we make children get more exposed to a diverse musical environment?

I think we're moving in the right direction regarding this. The internet has made it much easier for up and coming artists to get attention without large firms backing them up.

> Ok, so nothing serious.

The difference is that the tech world is extremely powerful and lucrative, while music taste is just a personal preference. Sure, we would make people's lives _a bit_ better if they knew how to more actively listen to music, but compared to *actual power structures* in society, it's unimportant.

>>57324044
Hint: Islamic extremism and Western colonialism work hand-in-hand. You guys literally finance the source of Islamic extremism: Saudi Arabia.

>>57323885
This. Alt right /pol/acks don't realize that they're literally as low as it gets on social hierarchy.

>>57324284

Literally this.

It's really interesting to observe the alt-right dynamic here: they try to present themselves as arguing that tech is a meritocracy and that women simply aren't interested, but in this very thread people are saying women should have no rights at all (>>57322662 and many others, the guy saying he doesn't hire women, etc)

>>57322783
>"Look at me, I corrected someone's grammar on the internet. What an intellectual individual I am!"

Really, just kill yourself. You're the most pathetic excuse of a person trying to defend his intellect I've ever seen.

>>57322087
This

>>57324344
It's almost as if people have their own opinions and lumping them into groups like 'alt-right' is counter productive.

>>57323001
True but it also forces women to work jobs with shit pay. Read Engles you pleb.

>>57324481
no, that can't be
that would mean I couldn't make stupid generalizations based off of a single persons post
and that would be devastating to all of my arguments

File: confused, wut, what, wat, confusion.png (185KB, 600x512px)

185KB, 600x512px

>>57322662
Can't believe all the hate this is getting. It's completely right. Companies aren't pushing diversity for the sake of women or migrants. They're doing it to decrease the price of labor.

>inb4 someone claims that companies are acting altruistically in this one single area

File: Back in the days trolling meant something.jpg (63KB, 470x600px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 470x600px

>>57322754

>>57323130
>""""Computer Science""""
Is it the same thing as IT in Americas or just a meme word for those who is too dumb to get a job at Silicon Valley at an age of 16?

File: maxresdefault.jpg (36KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 1920x1080px

>>57322982
>emphasizing economic growth
You must either be a business owner or the most cucked wage slave I've ever seen.

>>57322050
Then more women should sign up for tech studies.

The job prospects for them are actualy better than they are for men in fields where the majority are males.

The problem is not 'Companies don't want to hire women in tech', the problem is 'To few women graduate in tech related fields'

>>57322662
Le supply hurts my job opportunities meme only affects you if you're a shitter. Your job is more at risk by pajeet than by domestic women

>>57322050
huge source of brain power we're not tapping. that's literally all there is to it.

regardless of whether you hate women or are pro affirmative action, you're participating in identify politics and therefore you're a fucking idiot.

>>57322050
So we have someone else to sexually harass besides that cute nerdy, petite, hairless boy who once showed you a picture of him wearing striped thigh high socks.

File: retard alert.gif (480KB, 493x342px) Image search: [Google]

480KB, 493x342px

>>57323351
>it is a very complex combination of environmental factors that led to it.
>proceeds to explain how only the environmental factors matter

Gotta love that dogma. Before 3rd wave feminism, these levels of self-delusion were reserved only for religious zealots and the insane.

>>57324878
/thread

>there are people on /g/ who unrironcally think feminism resulted in a net positive for western society

Toppest of keks

>>57322087
>>>57322050 (OP)
>Because I'm sick and tired of dealing with fat autists with a complete lack of people skill and common courtesy who needs HR to babysit them


>Implying women can't be fat autists.

You're sexist anon.

>>57324878
>we're
If you don't own a business which hires women, you're not benefiting from diversity. In fact you're being disadvantaged. Increasing the number of workers in the job market without increasing the number of jobs devalues your work.

Businesses frame it as an equality issue to play on the public's good intentions, but what "diversity" does is drive the price of labor down for women, men and immigrants, widening the divide between the ruling class and workers.

>>57322050
hahahahahaha no they are most likely going to hurt the tech industry like they are hurting the scientific community because they are calling the scientific method sexist.

>>57322050
>why
Because its a sausage fest. If I gotta spend 8 or more hours looking at and being around fat grizzlys 5 or 6 days a week atleast give me something good to look at, especially if the job doesn't let me look at or give me enough time to look at porn.

File: CcfQwIzUAAAn1l_.jpg (112KB, 600x617px)

112KB, 600x617px

>>57325089
>implying /g/ hasn't been overrun by nu-males for the past 5 years

File: IMG_0115.jpg (147KB, 640x1022px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 640x1022px

>>57322050
We need more men in tech. Right now there are none.

>Ask for more women in the workplace
>Just end up with the same male fat neckbeard trannies only they're now beardless and have dyed pink hair and hormone tits

>>57325246
this. all the most talented biologcal women I've known in STEM never identified as straight women

File: File-Randall_Munroe_ducks.jpg (26KB, 200x298px)

26KB, 200x298px

>>57322617
>Have successful webcomic
>Spend your days drawing imaginary mary sues in your comic
>and stacking ducks in cafes

>>57325179
>no bread
>no white knight with white guilt
>not active on Twitter
>I don't participate in activism
>I don't care what words I use
>I don't donate to people
>I don't care enough about women to defend them
>wouldn't know if I was submissive, but I don't think so
>I don't have avatars, although I do have ideas for a game engine
>I could be more functional if I actually gave a fuck
>didn't care about the rest.

File: Unknown-3.jpg (6KB, 317x159px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 317x159px

>>57325280
I was thinking more this

All this 'we need diversity' bs. If people are interested they'll do it. Donr hire someone just for being a different race, hire the person best suitable for the job. Too bad in todays society if we only hire the people best for the job and they just so happen to all be white males, we get accused of racism.

>>57322050
Getting laid easier ?

>>57325179
Alright, let's see...
Beard+Glasses, check [trimmed, not a fucking neckbeard]
20-30 y.o. check
Not prematurely balding, in fact my hair is pretty healthy
Never whiteknighted, those damsels in distress can go fuck themselves
Forgot my twitter password 4 weeks after creating the account, and don't care enough to click "Forgot password"
>activism, lol
Define problematic. Otherwise, not check.
>donating, kek
>defending women online
submissive, passive, boring - none of the three
Did actually start doing some shitty stuff in Unity, but no pixel fart nor pixel fart avatars
I am more functional than most people in society.
Not one, many, many steps above.
>unique in a world of 8+ billion people
Twitter: see above, Tinder: N/A
>TAKING YOUR WIFE'S LAST NAME ISHYGDDTS

"Because men can only solve men's problems. We need an internet of - and exclusively for - women".

File: 20161031_01.png (21KB, 559x255px)

21KB, 559x255px

lastfm has this popup if you use an adblocker

I've tried to block the element with uBlock Origin, but it keeps re appearing

what do?

>>57325408
Too bad this doesn't actually happen.

On the flip side - I get subtly accused of being hired because I'm a woman by other staff at every tech job I've had until people realize I got the job because I'm a good employee and have a degree and experience.

Though there is always that one stubborn asshole that maintains this perspective and refuses to show any respect because he really believes I somehow have this easily life where I can just float into any job I want in the industry.

>>57325492
No, but imagine this:
A safer alternative to the internet, with a much lower maturity rating, no porn (maybe a bit softcore), no violence, no gore, etc intended for women.

So we keep the real internet, and they get a dumbed down version of our internet, without having to talk or interact with us at all.

Almost like... parental controls.
ParConNet.

I had 80+ applicants for a $20\hour USD internship. Not a single one was female.

>>57325526
fuck, meant to ask this in a stupid question thread

>>57323537
This basically. Equality of outcome is retarded. I have no problems with simply advertising towards women. Quotas and affirmative action are just cheap quick fixes. Sure they "work" but at what cost. Sure it doesnt effect your personal freedom too much but where will the line be drawn. Change starts from within not forcing others.

>>57325532
>Too bad this doesn't actually happen
Too bad it actually does happen

Woman in tech are annoying and weird

Woman in marketing are really fun and outgoing.

>>57325925
>noticing differences in populations
BIGOT!

>>57322087
I'm sick and tired of dealing with fat TUMBLRINA DYKES with a complete lack of people skill and common courtesy who needs HR to babysit them

So many people triggered by >>57322087 . Does that mean he has a point, /g/?

>>57326142
Yes

>>57324044
No, the middle east is fucked up because they cling to a fucking bronze age philosophy.

>>57326142
> all but two posts agree
> one of those is too hard to call either way
> triggered

I don't think that word means what you think it means anon..

>>57322811
Nobody thinks that.

>>57324344
leave it to a woman to immediately group everyone in this thread as alt-right. Is the concept of individuality too hard to comprehend?

>>57326142
I think the post counter is the biggest giveaway here. So many samefagging virgin manlets ITT

We need more competent non retards in tech.

IDC what gender they are. They are probably going to be men if this is what we want though.

>>57325127
>In fact you're being disadvantaged. Increasing the number of workers in the job market without increasing the number of jobs devalues your work.
if my sustenance depends on something so ephemeral as this then maybe I'm a fucking moron.

but as it stands, there's a shortage of qualified IT workers where I live, so I'm not afraid.

>but what "diversity" does is drive the price of labor down for women, men and immigrants
the barrier to entry becomes higher, but the salaries do NOT go down.

>>57326142
>he

File: magic-beard-man.jpg (31KB, 400x500px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 400x500px

>>57326187

Because America doesn't, right?

>>57326247
I never said otherwise.

>>57326209
Welcome to /g/.

>>57322378
Look up images of these people. Notice none of them are dressed retarded/peacocking. They just care about their job.

Now look at the sjw crowd trying to enter our field of work.

They don't even care about the actual work anymore. They just want to be a programmer because it's "cool".

>>57322662
120% right. Its hard to justify the costs of women entering the general workforce. Yes, people need the right to choose, but they first must realize what their choice is costing themselves and others. So few people are capable of this level of thought. Even on /g/ they refuse to believe it. I think the reasoning is that if they accept those costs, they realize that it wasn't worth it.

It's the same reason Europe is so friendly to mass immigration. Their economies cannot handle the sudden death of the white birth rate. Still not sure why this became so prevelant. But if you can have more kids, import them. Who cares the rest of the consequences, money is all.

No turning back now though.

>>57322754
Wasn't this debunked as them interpreting more lines of code = better program?

>>57326351
Wasn't this ENTYRE thread debunked as mere sexism and pure hatemongering?

File: Nankang-SV2.jpg (886KB, 1844x2648px)

886KB, 1844x2648px

>>57326377
>ENTYRE
>TYRE

>>57322362
Really makes you think.

>>57326377
>ENTYRE
Your argument is deflating

>>57322087
I thought all the paid skype shills got let go yesterday. What are you doing man?

>>57326408
See >>57324403

File: 1467836326670.jpg (48KB, 800x1274px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 800x1274px

>>57326426
>ENTYRE

>>57322476
Wrong it's:
>you suck at math
>lol fuck, how do I fix?

vs.

>you suck at math
>WTF TRIGGERED, GET HR YOU'RE GONE SEXIST PIG

>>57322345
Where I work, there's a bunch of women, could be close to 50% actually. Most of them do secretary work, documentation, presentations and shit. I like not having to do those things

File: 454d09bafcea790f647abe60877124bf.png (206KB, 400x400px)

206KB, 400x400px

>>57326436
>babby's first grammer mistake

>>57323130
That's either bullshit or citing Freshman. The attrition rate in UC's CS programs across the board is over 60%, the majority of those who change majors are women and minorities. This has been repeatedly attributed to "hostility," from their counterparts, but apparently that hostility doesn't affect asians or women with exceptionally high IQs. Go fucking figure.

File: 1471264830610.jpg (61KB, 701x497px)

61KB, 701x497px

>>57326500
>ENTYRE

File: he could have stopped it, laughing ron paul whores.png (409KB, 449x401px) Image search: [Google]

409KB, 449x401px

>>57326230
>the barrier to entry becomes higher, but the salaries do NOT go down.

>he hasn't taken a first year economics course

to drive down birth rates and salaries, drive a wedge between the sexes, cow men by enforcing stricter social control, and to pass control of society onto the more obedient sex, and finally to drive the only growth industry in America offshore

>>57326500
>grammer

>>57322617
but that's not xkcd you fucking dweeb

>>57327777
Q U A D S
U
A
D
S

>>57322677
why do liberals feel so comfortable stating these completely baseless stories as fact?

maybe women just don't want to fucking do it. end of story.

>>57323351
>Interests don't develop out of thin air. You weren't born liking computers, it is a very complex combination of environmental factors that led to it.
The question is how much of the variance between men and women is explained by variance in environment vs. variance in genetics.

The answer is: virtually zero of it is explained by variance in environment.