How easy would it be to set up a 4chan ark, for someone with

good luck paying for the servers

>>57282659
I'd just be limiting it to british /pol/ users really. I guess a standard BB forum would do but the 4chan image board format would be nice

>>57282684
There's plenty of open source image board software out there

>>57282531
KusabaX if you're a baddy.
vichan if you're a goody.

Do you have the server capacity and bandwidth to support those kind of loads?

>>57283512
He's gonna have 10 users at most

>>57282659
Good luck with ddos attacks from imgur servers.
Don't forget pedobears.

>>57283512
Your mom sure knows how to take large loads

Literally impossible for a lonefag. This site generates over 100TB of traffic A DAY.

>>57284319
>Literally impossible for a lonefag.
It happened.

>>57283610
Nah mate brit/pol/ threads get about 50 users per thread with about 16 threads per day, if all users went with the same posting rate it could easy be 1600 posts per day, my only worry is in how much bandwidth that would make.

>>57282531
Did you perhaps mean, fork?

>>57284533
>More than 10 years ago

>>57284319
Oh I know, I was just suggesting making one that is just for political discussion and blocking all IPs not in the commonwealth

Already been happening for the last 10 years in the form of other chans. Unfortunately these always end up being circlejerks a la irc or bbs. you need to learn to go with the flow and not just make some alternate shitty site every time things don't go your way. your site will go to shit within a few months as you find out it's just too easy to hit the ban button as your shitty interests boil to the top and you ban everyone over nothing

>Source: last 10 years of shitty alternate chans that pop up over 2 weeks to 4 years before exploding because the site admin tries to cash out or just jerk off and ban everything

>>57285986
Problem is, as per OP image there might not be a 4chan next year.

>>57284319
>This site generates over 100TB of traffic
[citation needed]

>>57286253
yes yes I've seen this posted every 5 months since I started coming here in 2005

>>57285862
It wouldn't be that much if you limited the multimedia, which is 4chan's problem. 150+ images can exist in each thread and each of those can be, what, 5MB? Then you have to serve those 5MB images to each person currently viewing the thread which, for an active thread, is probably somewhere in the hundreds if not thousands of people. A text only board or one with very limited image capabilities would be far easier to service.

>>57282531
Someone tell him to install gentoo

>>57286364

What sort of prices are we talking about for 500gb a month?

>>57282531
Fucking retard. I hope he hangs himself soon.

>not moving to nntpchan

>not moving to secretchan

>not shilling your own shitty chan circlejerk butt dump failure pog fag psuedo board so you can just ban everyone in 3 months when they don't regurgitate your same 15 year old wrong information shit verbatim

>>57286477
That's nothing, really. You could easily do that with a couple low powered desktop computers for redundancy.

could it be possible for someone to make a chan that spreads server loads across client computers? or even a forum that you don't use a website to get to but use ssh? can you display images over ssh?

I have used ssh chans before btut they were text only terminal based.

imagine being able to ssh into a forum, it opens a window that resembles what we have on here, and every image you post is hosted by you, then is viewed and hosted by people who viewed it.

>>57286617
Thanks.

How about if someone decides to post CP? Would the fuzz come after me if I didn't spot it or would they be lenient?

>>57282531
Web developer here, happy to help. No idea how it'd get paid for though.

>>57286644
Something like this?
https://tox.chat/

>>57286647
Doubtful, maybe get some mods though just to be safe

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I don't get it. What makes 4chan so unprofitable? 2ch has even less ads and it exists.

8 chan would be okay if it didn't have /pol/ leak to the rest of the boards.

>>57286769
hiroshima is a thieving kike.

moot, as big of a faggot as he is, ran the website for 12 years. this faggot is already having funding problems after a single year. if 4chan is going to die why doesn't he just sell it?

>>57286702
I suppose but something more like 4chan

>>57286792
Every place would be okay if faggots like you just killed themselves.

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>>57286809

>>57286647
You can't be held responsible for it if you didn't know it was there, so just remove it when you see it.

Why doesn't he just remove /b/ that would reduce alot of bandwidth usage

Okay, thank you all for being helpful, this place isn't as shit as I remember it being a few years ago when I last frequented here.

>>57286927
>remove /b/
>/b/itches flood the rest of 4chan ruining everything for everyone

Great idea, remove /pol/ while you're at it.

>>57286927

That's actually a pretty nice idea.

>>57286329
but from the site owner? that, we haven't seen

>>57284319
3 petabytes a month actually

>>57286972
If you run a hospital and the highly contagious part of the hospital is too expensive to run, you don't solve the problem by taking down it's walls

>>57286972
And where do you think they'll flock to?

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>>57286992
so 100 TB a day

>>57287028
damn, thats a lot. this place grew out of proportions.

>>57286992
[citation needed]

>>57282531

How does 2chan stay in the black?

>>57287028
>>57286992
But that's with 207000 users, so that's 14.49GB per user per month...

Can that be right? Is Hiroshimoot kidding us?

>>57284319
And it's cheap as hell.
Imgur moved ~5PB a month (Or almost twice as much daily) back in 2012 and they only just had to start doing premium accounts and ads.

Serving up files is absurdly cheap, this isn't like having to build entire datacenters to handle google search results

>>57287094
I thought the user base was closer to a million?

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RIP 4chan.

>>57286995
No, you solve the problem by kicking out the sick and locking the doors.

>>57287052
Check the 4chan blog

>>57287121
look at the bottom of the front page

>>57282531
>boo hoo i can't afford to keep 4chan afloat
Meanwhile this little gook rat is turning down every offer to buy the site.
https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/790021611294298112

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>>57287215

:^)

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So it's agreed that this is where we're going when 4chan dies, right?

>>57287259
Nah, 8ch has a decent tech board. You can browse on Tor, too.

>>57287256
Saved

>>57287273
I completely forgot about 8ch wow.

What are they doing that 4chan isn't that keeps them afloat?

>>57287311
Being owned by 2ch.

>>57287311
Accepting that they run at a loss

>>57287311
They're in their own world of shit. Look up "infinity never"

>>57287363
I hope Josh gets devoured by a pig in his nightmares.

>>57286647
> would they be lenient
>>> Britain
LOL, you get V& just for having lolicon.

>>57286825
He's right, you cancerous fuck.

Stay there.

>>57287408
He's probably just a bot that responds to messages that regex match with strings containing "kill yourselves" and the like

A first step is to collapse redundant boards, 200 posts a day does not deserve its own boards. Many containment boards are obsolete.

(Board Retained or Created):(Boards they absorb)
a : c,w,m
cgl
jp
v
vg:vp,vr
co: mlp
g: sci, o
tv
k
tg : qst
sp: asp
lit: his
out: an, int, trv
toy: po
i: p, ic, 3, gd
ck
mu
fa
pol : biz, news
fit
lgbt
vip
wsr
r
b: r9k
soc
hc: s,hm
h: e,u,d,y
aco

Boards outright removed
f
n
wg
adv
s4s
t
hr
gif

There, that's about half of the boards trimmed, it won't reduce the cost by a whole lot, but it would reduce it significantly.

>>57282684
Dude don't bother. /brit/ already exists on 8.

>>57287427
Let's try it!

>>57286792
Kill yourself.

>>57287440
If they only have 200 posts per day then they only make up a tiny percentage of hosting and bandwidth costs you mong.

>>57287028
>>57287048
>>57287059

You know this has always shit me. 4Chan did run on Cloudflare. It's been stated over and over, "the $200 per month cloudflare plan won't cater to those kinds of traffic, in fact it's very expensive at that level".

Look at their fucking website. Compare the "Enterprise, request a quote" with "business, $200" plans.

It talks about SLAs and phone support. Nowhere does it talk about traffic limits.

Surprise "lol, we can't handle that" is BS.

>>57287256
retard. 4chan cost 80k per month to run

>>57287440
The problem with this strategy is that it won't necessarily increase traffic. It'll just concentrate the same amount of data on a smaller number of boards.

IMO, we should ban all frequent /pol/posters until after the election, at which point they will have calmed down considerably.

>>57287461

When you open up a board, the board has to send you all the data for what's stored.

Let's say I browse pol and biz, I keep both boards up in separate tabs and refresh them regularly, the board has to send me biz's info constantly even though its not updating.

If you combined like interests, users will update multiple boards less frequently and you don't have to waste space on another 150 threads.

4chan 'culture' used to be about accepting its transientness, it wouldn't hurt to push that back into the picture a bit.

>>57287471
Hiro?

>>57287506
>When you open up a board, the board has to send you all the data for what's stored.
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. When I do a google search I don't get the entire fucking internet thrown at me.

>>57287105
>Imgur moved ~5PB a month

How did they do that? I'm shitting bricks over AWS pricing for that traffic.

>>57287548
The true power lies within cloudflare

>>57282684
>I'd just be limiting it to british /pol/ users really.
please, do it. you'll be cleaning some trash from here.

>>57287440
> keeping /tv/, /sp/, /fa/, /soc/, /co/, /aco/, /r9k/, /lgbt/, and /mlp/
> removing /f/
>>> keeping /vip/
hello 4chan pass user

>>57287363
>Look up "infinity never"

I legitimately have 0 understanding of that debacle.

You've got dozens or hundreds of engineers building most large, modern websites. And that whole "Infinity" saga seems to be about a failure involving one guy building and maintaining the whole fucking thing on his own.

>>57287596
Hello peasant.

>>57286644
This exists you cunts. See zeronet.io and 0chan.bit also GitHub nullchan

>>57287440
>mixing co with mlp
fuck off faggot, it's already shitty having comics and cartoons as one board, believe me.

>>57287621
>And that whole "Infinity" saga seems to be about a failure involving one guy building and maintaining the whole fucking thing on his own.
It was that, coupled with the drama coming from BOTH Josh and Hotwheels that proved they don't have any fucking priorities or self-composition required to run shit.

>>57287631
> Pass user since 2016
Hello cuck.

>>57287596

Read motherfucker, mlp and r9k are getting folded into co and b respectively, that basically means they are getting removed.

The time of f has come and gone.

Also, no, I don't have a 4chan pass. There's just no way they'd get rid of vip at this point.

>>57287647

Fuck you, they were yours first. The spam is basically gone, you'll just have to deal 2 active threads at a time, tops.

>>57282531

im faily sure this is what you are looking for

http://wakaba.c3.cx/s/web/

its the base code, ported by shii, that 4chan originated from.

>>57287469

Everything not written on 4chan seems to indicate Cloudflare don't charge for enterprise traffic:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-folly-of-charging-by-bandwidth/
https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200172656-Does-CloudFlare-have-bandwidth-limits-or-charge-for-bandwidth-

>>57287660
> Read motherfucker, mlp and r9k are getting folded into co and b respectively, that basically means they are getting removed.
Okay.

> The time of f has come and gone.
HAHAHAHAHA

> Also, no, I don't have a 4chan pass. There's just no way they'd get rid of vip at this point.
Sure there is.

Just delete it.

That, and shit like >>57287631 are the whole reason there's animosity between us.

>>57287688
C'mon, man... Don't just post it.

>>57287596
Why would you remove /tv/, /sp/, and /co/? They're popular enough boards with distinct userbases. /aco/ can be merged back with other porn boards, /mlp/ can be merged with /co/ and others can just go to /b/.

>>57287647
/mlp/ merging back into /co/ is probably the most sensible possible merge on 4chan. It is literally a cartoon which also has comics. It's not nearly as big as it was back in 2012 when the board made sense for containment reasons.

>>57287714
It's just bantz m80

>>57286797
mootykins was $20k in debt when he sold the site though.

>>57287440
You forgot wsg.

>>57287427
So he just made a sensible intelligent post out of pure coincidence then?

>>57287791
>ow the edge.meme
>sensible intelligent post
audibly keked

>>57285986
> Already been happening for the last 10 years in the form of other chans.

Except once 4chan falls there would be no other place to fall back into, it's either one of those little circle jerks or the end of the chan culture.

Besides it's not as if moot did anything special to create this place other than gathering a whole bunch of users so that it becomes big enough that a single individual's ego isn't enough to destroy everything

>>57287440
you're retarded

4chan currently runs on 7 MySQL servers, 13 nginx instances and 17 storage boxes. The numbers are prime for easy load balancing.
The cluster as a whole transmits 500 TiB of traffic EVERY DAY. It costs $150000 a month to run.

>>57287660
Oh yeah, and gbtleddit

You can save the majority of all traffic by making the boards text only. This'll also increase the quality of the posts.

>>57287891
>This'll also increase the quality of the posts.
lol u tk him 2 da bar|?

>>57287903
The quality of /prog/ was really high for 4fhan standards.

>>57287920
No one used it though

Everyone and their mom has written an image board script. Pick one, get a VPS and run it. Its that easy

>>57287720
> Why would you remove /tv/, /sp/, and /co/? They're popular enough boards with distinct userbases.
They're all shit.

I'm not so up-to-date on them now, but they were shit.

> /aco/ can be merged back with other porn boards, /mlp/ can be merged with /co/ and others can just go to /b/.
I agree with you with this.

>>57287757
Kill urself t b h f a m

>>57287920
I really want text boards to come back. Why did they ever have to be deleted?

Also, I thought ours was called /tech/?

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Make a chan for savants with IQs over 150 only.

>>57287865
I wonder if any of the devs or sysadmins have bothered checking if the IO problems cloudflare was introduced to solve could outweigh the extra CPU load dupe checking across all boards rather than just one. Its a potential sweetspot that could make cloudflare less of a necessity. That said 4chan is bigger than when cloudflare was introduced and network speeds could be even more of a bottleneck than they were then. Still, it could lessen the load on cloudflare and drive whatever they charge down a bit

>>57287788

Remove

>>57288002
>he unironically believes in the intelligence quotient
That shit was flawed decades ago.

>>57287939
That's because it was running on an ancient textboard script that hadn't been touched in years, and mvb incorrectly assumed that better already existing FOSS alternatives would perform poorly because they (Kareha namely) were old school CGI scripts. The thing is wrappers exist that can make CGI scripts persist in memory and they're essentially drop in replacements that require zero dev effort i.e. it just werks

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>>57288032
Surely you can exploit the flaws to get a score of 157 like me.

What if posting images decreased the autosage limit, so a thread with 50 image posts would fall off faster than 200 text posts and 12 images?

>>57287649
>not him

>>57287688
No no no Wakaba is a Perl rewrite of Futaba. 4chan's software dubbed Yotsuba is/was a fork of Futabally (sp?) which is in turn a fork of Futaba. That said Yotsuba is many years and contributions removed from anything in its lineage at this point

>>57287821
what? I'm referring to the guy that said
>Every place would be okay if faggots like you just killed themselves.

the problem with data is obviously image related and not text related

only third world servers wouldn't be able to handle text data, but images can really eat up space

so either make the image size cap smaller or stop being poor

>>57287506
>When you open up a board, the board has to send you all the data for what's stored.

>when you open up a board

holy fuck

this better be b8, nigger

>>57288079

which is way I said "originated" from, not is the code.

it would be a back to basics kind of thing, but could be made to work.

>>57287865

That number of storage boxes is interesting. Even if it does terabytes per day, the picture storage would only be a few GB at a time. You could probably jam most active content in a varnish instance.

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At this point I don't even know why you guys still want this site to be well maintained when literally everyone just mad at each other and shitpost.

The only "good" thread are general thread with well maintain information but we know "majority" of you guys hates generals.
Site traffic was more reasonable back then when we only got seven boards max and many of those boards are on FBI watch list, but now it literally just an imagespamming board or forums with same topic spammed in hourly manners.


So the question is, why wasted terabytes of money so people can shitpost for free?

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So long old friend.

It's been a good run. I'm 26 now. It was fun when I was 17.

I'm tired of people posting 3MB 3000x4000 PNGs when a simple 200kb jpg will do the job

>>57288207
oh, we're the same age and we started browsing at the same time.

I wonder where we'll go next.

/the net is vast and limitless/

>>57288282

I wonder if we ever replied to each other.

>>57288275

>Always called out people to stop using PNG for photo image
>Always got called out as an idiot aussie with shitty DSL internet
>Threads continues got spammed lowres image with bloated file size.

Already given up with this site years ago. now I'm just lurking.

>>57288282
>/the net is vast and limitless/
yeah, maybe 10 years ago. now the net is facebook, amazon, and netflix.

>>57282684
Britfags exist even though it is terrible. Anyways if you want to try something that's open and new where you won't be lambasted for being a newfag, try Tanobb. It can handle an influx of new users.

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>>57288317
probably, if you occasionally post on /fa/, /g/, /diy/, or /out/.
in any case: we have now. 'pleasure.

>>57288332
I agree, in part. but it was just a reference to pic related.

>>57282531
There's already several chans out there, the main reason they get less traffic is because 4chan's the most popular, if 4chan goes under we can switch to one of those. And there are a few open-source chan softwares out there, the main issue is the hardware. If Hiroyuki can't pay the bills, what makes you think we can?

>>57287785
Site your sources anon. Here. I'll do it for you.

Anonymous. "My Ass." 4chan: A [fake] Verbal History 1st ser. 12.1 (2015): 1-2. Www.4chan.org. Web. 28 Oct. 2016. <https://www.4chan.org/news?all#118>.

>>57288527

because moot did so for years from his mums basement.

>>57288538
>https://www.4chan.org/news?all#118
>1/21/15
>2,838 Terabytes per month

HOLY SHIT, 3 MOTHER FUCKING PETABYTES!

No wonder moot given up on this place.

>>57288527
>>57288527
and every single one would go down like flies

>>57288071
> Pass user
Hello cuck.

4chan's backend is laughably inefficient

>>57288180
> So the question is, why wasted terabytes of money so people can shitpost for free?
Why not?

>>57288538
>site

>>57288628
Nope.

Some of the *Chans haven't been up for as long as 4Chan, but they're pretty close.

>>57288180
>spammed
hardly. they are living breathing threads with humans that have social interactions with each other. the pointlessness of the thread's premise just shows that they don't care so much about the topic itself but they just want to talk with other humans.

>4chan supposedly about to die.
>Hi hiroyukimoot I want to buy 4chan
>Sorry I'm not selling 4chan
>let us donate hiroyukimoot!
>sorry not taking donations only selling 4chan pass
>I don't want malicious ads
>still adds them after a bit


This guy is a big troll.

>>57286992
That's just 15k$ per month.

>>57288670

If you can waste at least 60k/month just to let people shitpost for free.
You do it then.

>>57288733

Shitluck, those things aint paying the server cost.
Maybe if some pajeet got paid sheekel for spamming AMD vs Nvidia images, but it ain't do well for this shit site.

>>57286966

TRUMP 2016

i ACTAULLY LIKE >>>/pol/ is that bad

>>57282531
I'll make the logo

>>57282531
Look up Tinyboard.

>Server cost at least 80k a month in moot era of 2015
>Two weeks of donation only yield less than 2.5k

I kek'd

>>57288814
> If you can waste at least 60k/month just to let people shitpost for free.
> You do it then.
It's not going to cost that much.

I don't see why I can't just make a *chan on a hidden service.

>>57288882
Watch out for the >>/pol/ice kekety kek kek.

https://neet.moe

>>57289071

Even if just 20k a month, its still retarded to wasted your whole life maintaining a site where it got no reliable income beside from the ads banners.
J-list was a good ads for this site back then until most of the weebs became minority so they finally leave and /pol/ are full of normalfag and no companny would want put a normal ads on a site that known to allowed a cartoon CP to be posted on their main board.

Reddit also got ads but most of their high bandwidth shit got cut by using third party site, meanwhile in here you will be called retarded for using other image upload services or having imgur filename on your post.

WE'LL MOVE TO R/4CHAN GUISE
HUEHUEHUE LE REDDIT

INCULDE ME IN THE SCURNCAP GUISE

>>57289288

www.gaiaonline.com

>>57287469
>4Chan

>>57288649
>being too poor

>>57288649
hello freeloader. you bloody forced me to buy 2 passes to make up for the one you didn't buy ya cunt! haha

>>57287010
Exactly right.It would most likely make the shit posting worse if /b/ was taken down

It does seem a lil much for mostly just plain text and gifs and small shit like the webm files

>>57288025
forgot trash too

>>57288121
>>57287506
If I had to guess, I think this guys approach of thinking is that he believes the transmission system to be similar to that of a radio broadcast system where the server is either transmitting or not transmitting at all. In a radio transmission system more receivers (within a certain local contained area) has no impact at all on the transmission system. This is only a guess though as to his thought process.

>>57287121
posters + lurkers

>>57286501
>nntpchan
thank you!

>>57290023
i don't doubt that hiro is full of shit on that figure but making that point with sweeping assumptions might detract from the argument

>>57287548
proper CDN use
proper hosting solutions with competitive pricing not memes like AWS

>>57290023
One day: 90 TB cached + 25 TB uncached
means that you are roughly responsible for the cost of 21.74% of the bandwidth

the calculation is a bit off
given an average of roughly 3PB you would be responsible for ~653TB

>>57290023
even if he wanted to make a tiny bit of profit on the side is that such a huge deal? i mean he does have a pretty tough job. he should get SOME money

>>57282531
I don't know where to go
This place allowed me to post without registration
Others don't

>>57289796
Caching can approximate the "broadcast" model, actually. Cloudflare handles the wildly varying number of "receivers", and only requests new pages from 4chan up to a certain maximum rate, allowing 4chan's server load to be somewhat independent of "receiver" count.

OP here:

Guys, what do you think of the ultimate plan here https://www.tsohost.com/web-hosting
Would I be able to install KusabaX on that do you reckon?

>>57290999
Probably, but shared hosting limits the software you can install, so you might have trouble with stuff like webm support. A VPS isn't that much more expensive.

>>57282531
sauce on this post

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>The site isn't in danger of going under financially any time soon

https://www.4chan.org/news?all#118

>>57291089
That's 19.99 per month vs the smallest VPS package there starts at 39.99 per month , and you only get 400gb bandwidth, anyone know of any cheaper options?

Not sure if it's worth

>>57291135
So you are saying that really it's going to be okay? Hard to read sarcasm over the internet sometimes.

>>57291135
does hiroshuidsadsa actually refer to them as "malware ads"?

>>57291152
Hiroyuki is a scammer, he was in all sorts of legal troubles in Japan which is why he sold off 2ch and (apparently) moved to France.

Maybe he does need the money for his personal debts, legal fees etc but he doesn't need it for 4chan.

>>57287028
ban gif webms and images > 2mb
>fixed

>>57291135
i really want moot back

>>57291160
He usually says "malicious."

>>57291194
unfortunate for us

>>57287440
>removing /t/

Hello ratio cuck

>>57287440
>putting /biz/ in /pol/
>removing the porn video board
100% kill yourself

>>57285862

but 38 of those users are americans posting pictures of bad teeth and calling you cucks, right?

idk i don't go to /pol/ but that's what I would do

>>57288111
Just introduce webp support

>>57288882
/pol/ itself isn't bad, it's the leakage which is usually of a much lower quality than the average post on /pol/, and hence disliked

>>57291255
Perhaps but they would all have to be using proxies, flags are displayed when you post there

Ah fuck it I'll just use the standard BB forum that comes with packages of ready to install website software then encourage people to use fake name and emails

>>57290729
Fuck off hiro

>>57291320
Fuck off hiro

>>57286987
that gook does it on 2ch aswell its easy money from passes.

>>57291185
What a great idea. Lets turn thius place into Tumblr.

>>57291391
LOL GOOD MEME! XD

>>57291398
I take it you haven't seen the terrible gifs that come out of Tumblr just because their file size is limited?

>>57282531
Ctrl -f
>no lainchan

>>57291407
No, I only browse Reddit, they have a better frog.

>>57291415
>2003 + 13
>lainchan
WAT

>>57286501
This looks real promising.

>>57287440
Except it's already been explained the main problem is traffic, not storage.
Merging boards would slightly reduce the storage used, but the traffic would be the same because the mergerd boards would just become faster.

I agree on removing porn boards.
There are countless other places where to find porn and big filesize takes its toll on traffic.

Also limiting filesizes and implementing some clientside image compression would help, since you can't expect everybody to be as responsible as /p/ that asks in the stiky that photos be resized to be 1000px on the long side.
Yes, /p/, the photo snobs, are good with 1000px.
We could have some clientside resize/compression script for image bigger than 1mb/2000px on the long side.
That would have a huge impact.

>>57288180
>The only "good" thread are general thread
If you want circlejerking go to reddit.
All generals should be deleted on sight.

Thank god for filtering so I don't have to see your shit cluttering the catalog.

>>57288577
when traffic was a millionth of what it is right now, retard

>>57290729
I agree.
But in that case, don't bullshit the userbase. "4chan is going to die soon" and such retarded crap.

Fuck off.

>>57291620
read
>>57291135

>>57291660
Are you seriously that retarded?
Moot moved the servers out of his basement in 2008.
The figures in the linked post refer to just a little while before selling to HIroshima, 7 years after having already moved to a serious server.
Do you think that the site has always had so much traffic? Like in 2003 when the average image weighted a couple of kilobytes?
Goddamn ingorant fools thinking they know something because they read a single screenshot.

>>57291706
Actually, he moved them out of the basement to texas even earlier.
In 2008 he just moved them from texas to california, to get even better servers.

>>57282531
>brit/pol/s are looking for a new home

I'd help to build a concentration camp

>>57290023
Oh god, he really IS pulling the exact same "it's dying, give me money" shit he did on 2ch.

This infographic is accurate - and it's about the same amount of bandwidth 4chan has been using for years! It hasn't gone up noticeably at all. Actual costs are indeed probably around $10k-$15k/mo.

Caching changes could reduce that, as could smaller thumbnail encoding with, say, WebP (most of that is thumbnails), properly-configured HTTP/2 on the backend, and enforced HTTPS.

t. ex other-chan admin

>>57290999
Be VERY careful with terms of service/laws where you are and where you host chans, because people post fucking whatever.

In particular, if you're a britfag and you want to host a board anything like /pol/ (and from reading up the thread, you do?), remember we have 'hate speech' laws in the UK so you should probably leave it to someone from another jurisdiction to run it.

Same goes for anything vaguely erotic, actually, as it's about to become a major fucking pain in the ass to run porn from the UK (or at least, more than it was).

>>57286987
ive seen 30min of a 8hr vid of the last one

>>57289230
What are you talking about?

Do you even know what a hidden service is?

For text-only shit, I shouldn't have a problem with storage, and all I'd have to pay for is electricity.

>>57289308
?

>>57289383
>>57289394
Why don't you fags just go to SomethingAwful if you like paying for shit?

>>57290303
Fuck off.

>>57290729
> letting the Jews win
> knowing he Jewed 2ch
> knowing he's going to Jew you
> letting him Jew you anyways
Yes, it is a huge deal.

We don't owe him a fucking thing.

Fuck off.

>>57291152
> Hard to read sarcasm over the internet sometimes.
Jesus fuck, kill yourself. It's not hard at all. You're just dumb as fuck.

>>57291848
Thank you for your information.

>>57291848
>Be VERY careful with terms of service/laws where you are and where you host chans, because people post fucking whatever.
>In particular, if you're a britfag and you want to host a board anything like /pol/ (and from reading up the thread, you do?), remember we have 'hate speech' laws in the UK so you should probably leave it to someone from another jurisdiction to run it.
>Same goes for anything vaguely erotic, actually, as it's about to become a major fucking pain in the ass to run porn from the UK (or at least, more than it was).
Thank you, yes. I had thought of that and it is what I am most concerned about, I guess the main solutions to that are to post a message at the top of each page stating that the entire board is satire, and perhaps also a message telling people to obey UK law and to report all posts breaking it. I could host it in burgerstan but I'm not sure how affected customer service would be by that. It's probably worth it though.

All of this is just hypothetical, if 4chan does shut down I'd like to think that hiroshimoot could give us a weeks warning at least, which would be enough to quickly set up some kind of service.

>>57292023
>> Hard to read sarcasm over the internet sometimes.
>Jesus fuck, kill yourself. It's not hard at all. You're just dumb as fuck.
No I'm not, perhaps you should learn write with more skill.

>>57291391
idk what that is

>>57286801
p2p foolfuuka when

>>57292559
You're welcome. I really can't give you specific legal advice, but as some general points, I *really* doubt that putting a message on the top of each page saying it's satire would help you much, if at all. Judges are human: they fucking know when you're taking the piss and it's not generally appreciated.

And you living/operating the site from one country, and hosting the site in another country, would mean the site would be subject to the laws of the other country AND yours. That's actually not a win.

I ran a chan before - I know what it's like. It wasn't TOO bad with the cosy, social, relaxed /ef/ board which was the main one on the chan I ran, but there are definitely risks from, say, the odd random cheese pizza spammer (which the legal advice I received said to permaban, hashban, expeditiously permanently delete, then report the IP to the Internet Watch Foundation, which is what I did).

There's no way in blue hell I'd have touched a board with a reputation like /pol/ without getting actual visits from the police in short order.

This is just a bad country to run a tech enterprise from, especially with the pound the way it is, Theresa May as PM, the proposed Digital Economy Bill and the Snooper's Charter.

There are already lots of other, smaller, chans, and a variety of software to host them with (of varying awfulness). If 4chan did shut down (and I actually don't think that's very likely, considering Hiro's background back on 2ch and the graphs he's posted), I think the outcome is that the other chans would suddenly absorb an absolute shitload of new traffic - probably not all in the same place, however. 8 would undoubtedly get quite a bit, but for example I think /g/ would gravitate towards lain.

>>57293253
I think the best course of action would be then, if 4chan went down, to start a new forum but in a bulletin board format and make very clear that UK law will have to followed. If I make it clear that this is life raft of a certain part of 4chan until Notch/Cernovich/Schkreli or whoever buys it and sorts it out, and that it is not the same old ship.

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4chan's not going to go down.
And the argument for building/visiting other chans shouldn't be "what if 4chan dies?", it should be "how can we do better than just putting up with Hiro's shit?".

>>57293496
>4chan's not going to go down.
>the titanic is unsinkable

>>57284278
:)
and how

What exactly is wrong with leaving file hosting to third party sites like how reddit does it?

>>57294584
We'd be subject to their rules and laws. It would be okay if it were something that an Anon hosts for himself, but that's more dangerous, especially when we have pedobears come up every once in a while. Or the occasional supreme gentleman. Or fappening type situations. Or y'know something like the palin emails.

>>57294804
So find a host that has acceptable rules and use that one, I don't see the issue.

>>57293292
No one here is interested in a registration-requiring bulletin board style forum, you are only going to attract a few tripfags who claim their name before moving on.

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>>57282531
while we on topic, anyone know any source code to archive the boards? Its a slow board so, is a VPS enough?

I would have it distributed to multiple people (I hold the servers for /g/, you for /a/ under the same domain) seems more manageable that way

>>57291898
Something Awful is filled with SJWs now. I have an account from years ago, but there's no point going there.

>>57292023
>Autism

I made a fucking clone of this retarded site for a class project.

After I finish my social network, I'll probably throw that diarrhea of code up there too for shits a gigglebytes.
(Improved, though, from the class thing)

Right now I'm actually doing something for my SN. Just taking a bit of a break.
You guys said I wouldn't launch it... a while back... but that's when I was only beginning.
Now, in between mountains of homework and procrastination... I'm... slowly getting it done with basically the final API.

JUST YOU W8! FB IS GOING DOWN...
After my site will have been up for like 8-10 years...
Fucking Facebook. I hate them so much

>>57291415

I really on the defense on that site, since is owned by teenegers who like filthy frank, the site is not bad though

>>57282531
Lets just get this out of the way. You and only you have thought about making a 4chan alternative. No one else has ever bothered to alter the futallaby code and make it similar to 4chan's yotsuba code. Over the last 13 years, you were the only one special enough to have thought of recreating a slower and buggier version of 4chan which everyone will gladly flock to. Such an idea was definitely never executed and definitely not a failure. Who needs original creators when we have you.

If Hiroshima Nagasaki is really spending $90k on server costs a month and only getting $20k back in ad/pass revenue why the fuck did he even buy the site in the first place?

>>57295773
If you have to ask these questions you're not up for the task.

>>57296845
He's a fucking millionaire

>>57297434
nico nico money can only get him so far in life without google bullying him out of the video sharing business.

>>57296845
the keyword is IF

>>57286647
Cooperate with GCHQ and all will be well.

We'll give you mods.

>>57288527
It will just end up like the Pomf scenario, with a slight difference: these sites already existed whereas most pomf clones never.

Some will die, most likely, but some won't, and that is what counts.
Servers are cheap, the bandwidth is the issue.
And given the community will be fractured, they'll likely stay with what they find that has a comfy reply rate. (rather than 4chan fast, ironically enough, not the rule though, but a large percentage will go for mid-tier response times)


Honestly, all Hiroyuki needs to do is kill the bandwidth hogs and replace them with textboards with OP-only images.
Add embed support for sites that support them.
Most bandwidth-heavy boards are ones where the content is already hosted OFF-site in a far better system than 4chan is.
Porn, manga, hentai, webms, all out there and better tagged.
Making a webm for /wsg/ is objectively more complicated than making a Youtube account. So that wouldn't be a barrier for text-board /wsg/.
Manga and hentai are all out there and well-tagged. /c/, /u/, /y/ and the others likewise on 'boorus and similar sites.

Why would this be better? Because it would instantly cut down the fucking sauce-faggotry and arguments over spoonfeeding because the content WOULD be the source.

The only threads "hurt" in this are draw-threads on various boards, but they can easily use /i/ like many of us do already.
We can't post NSFW drawings in /a/, /v/ and others, we already use /i/ for that.

Making /pol/ text-board would just be funny.

Why can't we go back to the good old days when only thread starters had images.
Reaction images were the dumbest idea that ever caught on for this site.