GOODNIGHT SWEET PRINCE 2006-2016 FUCK YOU APPLE

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>>57266891
May flights of angels wing thee to thy rest...

I still can't believe they did this, God that little thing was one of the best thing about MacBooks. They literally had the best power inputs of any laptop by far. They got too much fucking 'courage' and axed it.

The trade off is USB type-C and you can charge from any of the 4 ports instead of just a single port located on a single side.

You can also do passthrough and charge through the same connection you're connecting a monitor or any other peripherals through

>>57267240
But can I charge from all four ports at the same time?

Macbook Pro with optical drive also discontinued.

>>57267271
I imagine it would detect that and only draw the needed/safe power.

>>57267240

The reason I'm pissed is that there's nothing stopping them from having their fucking USB-C ports while also including MagSafe 2. The internals behind it and such are small enough to fit in that chassis easily. They just didn't fucking do it.

>>57267304
I guess? There are magnetic breakaway USB type C cables if that's all you care about. There is no need for another connector.

>>57267240
I don't care, that's a shit tradeoff.

>>57267380
How is it a tradeoff? It offers identical features, it's reversible, there are magnetic breakaway options, and it provides data connection for monitors, speakers, hard drives, networking devices, etc, as well as power delivery.

>>57267365
Those pieces of shit are not and never will be as good as MagSafe. There's no need for all of the connectors on the laptop to be the same. USB-C connector is fine for TB3, since it's smaller and reversible unlike the Mini-DP connector. MagSafe should have stayed.

Did they ax the card reader too?

>>57266891
What is that even used for

>>57267406
>Those pieces of shit are not and never will be as good as MagSafe
I can almost guarantee you've not tried a USB type C cable with magnetic breakaway.

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NEVER FORGET

>>57267417
>buy extra shit to replace a feature the laptop already had
holy shit, kill yourself.

>>57267436
You don't have to buy it if you don't want it.

If magnetic breakaway is so fucking important to your lifestyle that THIS is what makes or breaks the laptop for you, you have no hope of survival on this planet.

indeed, rip. one of thier nicest technology.

>>57267406

They axed the SD card slot AND HDMI.

>they're unironically killing the only good thing they ever originally invented
morons.

>>57267481
USB type-C supports HDMI and Displayport. Hell pretty sure it supports VGA too.

>>57267481
I'm ok with HDMI being axed, but the SD card slot? That's some bullshit.

What professionals want a thinner laptop with reduced connectivity and no real performance? They need to take a note from that HP Zbook.

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>>57267418
Always missed.
Never forgotten.

t. Wincuck

WHAT IS IT WITH THE FUCKING APPLE THREADS FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING FUCKERS HOLY FUCK LIKE 10 OF THEM ABOUT SOME STUPID NOTEBOOK

>>57267458
If you can't see that the magnetic USB-C breakaway cables you mentioned are far inferior to the original magsafe cable I don't even know how you function in society. How are you actually going to say it's as good as magsafe?

>>57267458
how can you be this deluded? kill yourself.

>>57267458

But you had it included in the previous models, and now if you want it back, you pay extra and considering the competition for good laptops at this price bracket it's pretty ridiculous to think people should. I see apple's profits dropping again for at least the next year.

On the bright side, Apple will stop patent-trolling the "magnetic power connector" patent r-right? That means we'll start seeing magsafe on other laptops instead of those ancient barrel plugs.

>>57267550
>>57267545
kek, butt mad autists.

Doubt you'd have been able to afford one of these anyway.

If a $20 cable is what is the deciding factor for you on a $2400 laptop, i'm willing to bet that isn't your primary issue with the laptop.

I never really cared about MagSafe and now you can use whatever cable you want to instead of Apple's notoriously prone to fraying cables

>butterfly-keyboard
>there's no escape
>no hdmi
>no sd-card
>no magsafe
>no ethernet
>no headphone-connector

>Pro

oh yeah
>no Mac Pro

TOPP
EST
OF
LYLS

>>57267597
>Doubt you'd have been able to afford one of these anyway.
Doubt away. Not my problem you see these laptops as a status symbol because you're so poor.

>>57267632
If they ever refresh the Mac Pro imagine how shit it'll be.

Good thing about it is that I have no more reason to be jelly of macfags.

MagSafe was really a nice thing, emphasis on "was".

>>57267632
They do have headphone port. All others are correct.

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>>57267659
I'd honestly be impressed if Apple made something worse than this.

>>57267711
sssh. ;)


wait, the smalles touchbar-macbook is 13" 8gib ram (lol) 256ssd (LOL) at 1800 bucks(LOLLERCOASTER!!1)?

Holy fuck.

>>57267501
Sure but plugging a video connector straight to your laptop is much more convenient tha buying an adapter and carrying it around.

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>Apple has launched the first new version of its MacBook Pro laptop in 18 months with a new OLED touchscreen on the keyboard capable of inserting emoji into text.
>The new laptop does not come with the SD card reader, HDMI port, the two Thunderbolt ports that doubled as a mini DisplayPorts, or the two USB-A ports that the last model did, so will require adapters to use existing accessories. It also lacks the MagSafe power adapter, instead relying on USB-C. It does have a 3.5mm headphone socket, however.

Apple what the fuck are you guys doing? It's like you're deliberately trying to send your brand into the gutter now you got enough money to not need to worry about things any more. All this pandering to the "meme generation" with emoji keyboards and hundreds of dongles for "muh thinness" is making you look like tryhard microsoft trying to be cool and hip when they talk about minecraft.

>>57267578
Surface line has magnetic power cables and they're pretty nice. It's just shitty plastic Dell and HP laptops for $200 that still use shitty barrel plugs and that's because they're cheap as dirt and pretty durable.

>>57267732
It's not that bad. It's the tiniest workstation ever made, so if you care about that it's great. Other than that, it's a mistake. Should have just kept the old Mac Pro and put the Sandy/Ivy Bridge-EP in it.

>>57267748
>buying an adapter
Just use a native cable....

http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=12908

>>57267597
>thinking that being fine with having to pay extra $24 in order to get basic functionality from a $2400 device is a sign of wealth

Did you steal mommy's credit card again jimmy?

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>>57267750
>MacBook Pro
>Pro
>emoji-bar
>mfw

Is the Saint-Steve-RDF finally imploding?

>>57267688
MagSafe is still a nice thing. Good thing I bought an MBP before they fucked it up.

>>57267578
If I can get an HP ZBook with factory Linux support and the magnetic connector or a Dell Precision notebook, they'll be my next laptops.

>>57267800
I didn't know that these existed, thanks anon. However regular video cables are much more common than these. I just don't get why they are pushing the "just buy more uncommon stuff to be able tk get basic functionality from an already overpriced device" this hard.

>>57267866
>tfw VGA, Ethernet and 2 audio jacks are he reason why I didn't drop my 5-year old netbook

>October 27th, in the Year of our Lord 2016
>Apple got out-Apple'd by Microsoft
Tales will be told, chants will be sung.

>>57267905
If you have a USB type-c capable monitor you can plug the macbook into the monitor, then your peripherals into the monitor (the announced LG 5k monitor has 3 USB type-C port)

That way you can plug an adapter for VGA into the back of the monitor for your VGA display, another USB type-C port can be used for an ethernet adapter.

That way you can have a desktop setup, plug your macbook into a single USB type-C cable connected to the main monitor, and it will all just work as if it were plugged into a docking station.


If you have the $ to spend, you can get a much more seemless setup using USB type-C. It just costs a decent bit right now because all USB type-C devices are basically brand new products within the last year.

>>57267905
>tfw using a 2670qm laptop with 16GB of RAM + 256GB SSD
>tfw ports
>it just werkz

What is the best macbook pro to buy then, if this 2016-2017 lineup is complete garbage? Which macbook had all the proper ports while still having modern specs?

>>57267750
>MacBook Pro
>Pro
>PRO
>Emoji keyboard

>>57268010
tfw it's a thinkpad

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>have to briefly stop what you're doing to look fucking down at your keyboard to use a shortcut
>not just clicking on it
>this is a feature

>>57268048
Real Pros communicate only through emojis to optimize time.

True courage.

>>57268064
a n53sm actually

>>57268081
>tfw it has a shit keyboard

close but no cigar

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>>57268048
>tfw been born just in time to witness the Second Downfall of Apple Inc.

>>57268091
>Downfall
It's like they know their audience pretty much

>>57268089
It doesn't bother me really. The cooling is good btw.

>>57266891
It will come back in 2017, trust me.

>>57268127
They really don't.

>iPhone 7 ships with Lightning-to-USB-A-cable
>MBP Late 2016 has only USB-C-connectors
POTTERY

>>57266891
>1 year warranty
So it's a piece of shit

>all the jokes about minijack and people asking what feature will they take away next

>they actually do just that

THE ABSOLUTE

>>57268235

You're looking at one side of the machine you fucking cretin. Its on the right side.

>>57267501
None of my display devices support USB type C. I am guessing that's their motivation: make you buy more over-priced apple crap.

>>57268203
>Can't plug your 2016 iPhone into your 2016 MBP without an adapter
>Can't plug your 2016 iPhone headphones into your 2016 MBP without an adapter

I
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J
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>>57268276
All of your display devices support a connector that is natively supported by USB type C however.

HDMI, Displayport, VGA.

>>57266891
>tfw 2012 MBP
>only annoyance is 1366x768 screen
>upgraded with 16gb RAM and SSD
>literally no reason to upgrade before
>definitely no reason to upgrade now
Why did Jobs have to die?

>>57268203
OH SHIT THEY DIDN'T

>>57268315
>Why did Jobs have to die?

Cause he was a hippie

>>57268195
But now everyone loves emojis, isn't it?

>>57268341
you bet they did.

>>5726763
>>57267741
I bought a i7 laptop with a 128GB SSD and 4 GB RAM on sale and got 16GB RAM and 512GB RAM before I turned it on. That's fine for a $200 laptop but .. paying 1800 for something you would want to/have to upgrade right away?

The dealbreaker for me is the keyboard. Tried one on a MacBook in an Apple store and fuck it was disgusting.

I have a rMBP from 2015 now, and I love it, but it's the last Apple product I'll buy. A shame because the other side's offerings are all utter shit too.

>>57267750
The ultimate Facebook machine, oh god.

>>57268404
>The dealbreaker for me is the keyboard.
Its a brand new keyboard, and they werent available in store until this afternoon for you to try it out, so you're talking about the old keyboard.

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>>57268289
Shamelessly stolen from MacRumors. THose guys are on suicide watch now, lyl

>>57268437
the previous usb-c macbook had the butterfly-keyboard already.

>>57266891
Never owned a Macbook before. Is Magsafe good? It looks like it can snap out with light pressure.

>>57268404

Its not the same keyboard, watch the damn Jony Ive softcore porn promo.

>>57267750
First question that came to mind when seeing the touchbar was

Why not make the screen a touchscreen and sometimes use the bottom of it for that crap?

>>57268463
The butterfly-keyboard released in 2015 is NOT the butterfly-gen2 in the macbook pro.

>>57268466
>It looks like it can snap out with light pressure.
That's really the point, so if you trip over the cable, you don't pull the MB to the ground.

>>57267632


I thought the whole point of the MacBook Pro vs the Air or original MacBook was to be professional oriented?

Why would the 'professional' consumer buy this pile of shit now instead of switching over to one of the several other workstation oriented laptops?

I was all hyped about the new MBP before I saw the leaked image of the gimmicky touchpad...

Can't wait to see what they do with the next Mac Pro...

>>57268466

Pretty good, saved my laptop many a time in meetings when someone has tripped over the pile of cables.

Doubt I will be swapping my 2014 MacBook Pro now, probably get HP Elitebook or Dell XPS next.

>>57268466
That is the point. It comes out with a sharp tug so people can't trip over your laptop charger and pull your laptop onto the floor. It's also really easy to connect since you can just put it near the port and it'll snap in.

>>57268488
rather make a laptop that can take a fall to the ground tbqhf family

Kek where the fuck am I supposed to plug my USB stick in

>>57268501
>Why would the 'professional' consumer buy this pile of shit now instead of switching over to one of the several other workstation oriented laptops?
They won't. I was hoping this thing would have:
Better cooling
Xeons
Quadro/FirePro
ECC RAM
USB Type C TB3 ports
in an attractive package. It's not that. And Mac OS is getting worse every release. Apple lost me as a customer with this.

>>57268537
You're not. It's 2016.

>>57267994
Read your post, you suggest a mess of adapters to solve issues that should not be there in the first place.

>>57268537
any of the four USB ports?

>>57267750

>"Pro"
>literally turned into a basic facebook machine

This is so cringeworthy. Any sucker that buys these should be publicly shamed.

>>57268532
I'd rather not have my laptop fall to the ground, whether it will survive or not.

>>57268548
I suggested two adapters permanently fixed BEHIND the primary monitor in order to turn a desktop space into a single USB type-C dock.

>>57267750
>the baby emoji is black
POTTERY

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>>57268091
>tfw been born just in time to witness the Second Downfall of Apple Inc.

Glorious

Here I was, hoping they'd actually make a successor to the 2011 17 inch MBP so I'd have a reason to get something new, and the they go pull this.

At least the Sandy Bridge i7s are still going strong, and I've hooked up my MBP to an eGPU for muh gaming.

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>>57268466

>Is Magsafe good? It looks like it can snap out with light pressure

I don't know why I still come here. I find the dumbest shit on the internet here and I still come. That's THE WHOLE POINT OF MAGSAFE. Kill yourself, if you can even do that.

>>57268532

This is also one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

>prevent laptop falling off makeshift standing desk several feet up
>OR make it actually drop and only have 9 things break instead of 15, much better idea!

I have no words for how retarded you are.

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>>57266891
Apple has been going down hill ever since Steve Jobs was assassinated and he was replaced by the puppet Tim Cook.

>>57268684
Why is it dumb if I don't own any magsafe products or know what it is? I think you should kill yourself instead because you're the one that owns Apple products here.

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History is repeating itself.

It will take the rightful heir Scott Forstall to return to Apple and lead it from crazy land like his mentor did before him.

>>57267632
just wait for the 2017 retina Air refresh to save the fucking day

>>57268716
who the hell is he

>>57268754
Lead software guy for ios stuff. He's probably more fit to lead than Cook.

>>57268713

>I'm still being severely retarded and can't work out why a laptop would have a magnetic power connector

Kill yourself.

>>57268754

Fuck off newcunt. How old are you, 11?

>>57267632
>there is no escape
there is no escape

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>>57267732
>>57267659

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>>57268800
>Lead software guy for ios stuff.
I think you're confusing Mr "Let's add leather everywhere" with this fine gentleman in the pic.

>>57267750
Whenever I'm memeing it takes me approx 5.47 seconds to find and insert four frog emojis and one crying face. Thanks to apple I now be able to insert at least two coffee mugs and maybe even a flexing arm (depending on their scroll functionality) in the same amount of time.
I call it innovation for people who know how to make a use of it.

>>57268867

You misunderstand. Scott Forstall and Steve Jobs had similar temperaments. Forstall was known for being a major asshole because he pushed his team to deliver. He was a workaholic. He is an gifted programmer and lead developer. Jobs had taken Forstall from NeXT when Jobs returned to Apple because he recognized his work ethic and competence. He designed Aqua for MacOS. Once ousted from Apple, he became a successful producer for musicals.

Really, there's too much to list here and I can't be bothered. Ultimately, Forstall was seen as the successor to Jobs with his ballbusting adherence to Jobs' vision.

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>>57266891

>buying shit hardware
>pissed shitty things happen by shitty company

>>57269312
Sounds like the guy they need in charge.

>>57268276
But it's USB-C, not Apple stuff. They're trying to push a cable that does everything and you'll never get to that point if you keep the old stuff

I don't think removing the magsafe was a good idea, but they could include something like this
https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable

>>57268027
2015 one obviously. with force touch trackpad. got it and it's great.

I had a USB-A ethernet dongle for my MBP.

Now if I upgrade, I need a dongle to adapt my dongle. Sasuga, Apple.

>>57269661
Was about to post this. I already use an adapter for my phone so no big deal. Means one less port though.

>>57269729
>Now if I upgrade, I need a dongle to adapt my dongle.
Lewd.

>>57266891
Aww fuck did I miss the reveal? What are they doing different?

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>>57267750
>Facebook Pro

>Retardedly thin.
>NO Magsafe.
>No USB A.
>No SD Card slot.
>Base machine doesn't have touch.
>Higher end machines force you to have touch.

This company is dead.

>>57270014
Wait there's no option to add an SSD? The fuck?

>>57270037
I think you're thinking of the surface studio.

>>57266891
w-what is this?

>>57266891
wrong LOL magsafe 2 has only been around like 3 years

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>>57268609
That mouse and the iPad Pro were the warning signs.
YOU ONLY HAD TO LISTEN

>>57268752
anon... i'm sorry

air is gone

>>57269499
They needed to keep MagSafe.

>>57267481
>>57267531
What are you? Poor or something? Just buy an official Apple USB-C hub and official Apple dongles to plug into it.

>>57269661
You can't seriously think that ugly shit is better, can you?

>>57266891
I'm so glad I bought the rMBP last summer rather than waiting for this.

The bar is okay.
The lack of ports is not good, but I don't use them too much.
No Mag Safe? That Kinda sucks
That keyboard? "Improved sensation of travel?" fuck off.

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I've been OSX user for almost 10 years now and I am grateful to Apple for failing this hard. Now I'm 100% positive that my next machine will be non-Apple brand with glorious GNU/Linux operating system (KDE is love).

So thank you Apple for bringing me closer to satori.

>>57267286
no one gives a fuck about an optical drive in a laptop grandpa

>>57268466
>It looks like it can snap out with light pressure.
That's the point. It's secure enough to charge the device but will snap out if tugged so your laptop doesn't fall off your desk with it.

>>57268501
>Why would the 'professional' consumer buy this pile of shit now instead of switching over to one of the several other workstation oriented laptops?
Professionals won't buy this. Maybe some hippie liberal arts prof at a university will buy this with her university money, but no one else will want this for professional purposes. The laptop that I've seen more and more at offices is the Dell XPS 13".

>>57270321
I hate to break it to you, a bad hardware release on their part doesn't change MacOS. You can put GNU/Linux on your Apple computer.

This attitude triggers me no end.

>>57270852
>ou can put GNU/Linux on your Apple computer.
not a good idea with their custom broadcom wifi.

What's up with the touch OLED shit? Why not have a touch screen and get it over with. A touch strip is inferior to a touch screen. Also, new MBP look like a shitty device to program on.

I'm keeping with my beefed up MBP from previous years past.

>>57267233
>magsafe
>good

They fucking break all the god damn time and use the shittiest stress relievers and cable coatings on the market.

>>57270990
Only because Apple fucking cheaped out on the cables.

If they didn't do that then it would have been perfect, but it cost too much so they dropped it to save pennies.

>>57271012
they didn't cheap out.
it's just design is more important than functionality for Apple and big strain reliefs don't follow their thinness maxim.

>>57266891
Not really bothered by the removal of magsafe or a new charger desu, but I am annoyed by the removal of thunderbolt ports (because DP) and escape key (because vim).

>>57270014

>SD card slot

Anyone who's serious about photography either has a decent camera which wirelssly shifts all photos onto your computer or they have something tethered to their machine in a studio. SD cards are pointless in almost 2017.

>>57270990
>still using the original magsafe-2 cable that I've had for 3 years

I don't see every ones problem with them.

>>57271167
read the reviews on the apple store:
http://www.apple.com/shop/reviews/MD565LL/A/apple-60w-magsafe-2-power-adaptermacbook-pro-with-13-inch-retina-display

>>57270976

>poking at a fragile display
>getting cheeto dust and finger grease over your glorious display
>reaching out and touching your display for shit while your hands are in a typing position

Its an ergonomic nightmare and a literal gimmick that retards like you gobble up. Making something suited for cursor and finger input is fucking retarded, you end up with Metro shit. Apple isn't dumb enough to do that. Your fingers should only ever be on the bottom half of a laptop. The thought of some tard prodding their display assembly is just dumb.

>>57267597
>changing the subject after getting BTFO 3 times
>HA BET UR POOOR ANYWAYS FAGGG xD

Please leave.

>>57271252
I wasn't BTFO at all, their argument of well duh reeeeeel magsafe is butter, isn't a fucking argument.

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>>57271222

>2016 - no touchscreen macbook
>touchscreen on a laptop is retarded. apple would never do that
>2017 - macbook launches with revolutionary touchscreen interface
>touchscreen on a macbook is incredible, so innovative. i'll buy two, one for each hand.

Calling it.
All Apple seem to do these days is either ripoff good features from other devices or remove proven standard features just to sell you a fucking dongle.

>>57271139
That's exactly cheaping out.
They didn't look for any way to implement suitable strain relief in a slim package. They just cut it and let the cables suffer.

i'm not buying a MBP this year (or next year, probably), and i have at least half a dozen magsafe chargers (one for travel, one at home, one at work, one near my bed in case i want to work on my bed, and probably a few more floating around). i'm still fine with them dropping magsafe.

the latest update means that 2016 MBP charger cables can be purchased from monoprice. are you people honestly going to cling to magsafe so much that you can't appreciate that?

>>57271158
i figure as long as they replace one standard for another i can live with it. i have adapters that won't work anymore, but type C means we'll be able to get ethernet adapters, generic cables, etc... relatively cheaply.

i will miss the escape key as well. maybe i'll get the 13 inch laptop (assuming they don't kill the non-touchbar option in a year or two).

>>57271164
anybody who shoots professionally will tell you that no camera does wireless transfer quickly enough for RAW files. the only part of your hallucination that's true is that in studio shoots people are more likely to use straight up ethernet cables. photographers all still use physical media.

that being said, an adapter isn't that big a deal. pro photographers are carrying so much more shit than one adapter that this just doesn't matter.

>>57271167
really? i've had to replace the thin part of the cable on at least one magsafe adapter because the sheathing was coming apart.

>>57271306
>They didn't look for any way to implement suitable strain relief in a slim package.
that's not how Apple works. they did look and found it infeasible.

>>57271389
Exactly, they cheaped out.

>>57267597
If I'm spending $2400 on a laptop they better fucking get everything right

>>57270852
You can put Linux on your Apple computer, but you'd be retarded to do so. Better to stick with the last good release, 10.9.

>>57268276
Mac users are already used to carrying adapters for such things as VGA, which is still fucking everywhere.

>>57267233
>two macbooks at home
>use by people that are not careful at all with cables
>late 2012 models
>magsafe still allright

I honestly think some ameritards are fucking orangutans with clothes.

>>57271320
>are you people honestly going to cling to magsafe so much that you can't appreciate that?
Yes. I don't care about buying cheap cables when my 2600 dollar laptop gets flung to the ground because someone tripped over the power cord.

>>57271477
They didn't before, they have never gotten "everything" right. There are drawbacks to EVERY product, welcome to the real world, we don't live in a utopia where you get your cake and eat it too.

>>57271287

>I win the argument based on something which I think will happen in the future so there

Are you 13?

>"The MacBook Pro's Touch Bar doesn't signal a future move into touchscreen Macs, something the Apple executives made clear. A Mac with a touchscreen isn't "particularly useful," Ive said, while Schiller said Apple investigated the possibility of converging iOS and Mac devices but decided against it."

>"We did spend a great deal of time looking at this a number of years ago and came to the conclusion that to make the best personal computer, you can't try to turn MacOS into an iPhone," Schiller says. "Conversely, you can't turn iOS into a Mac.... So each one is best at what they're meant to be -- and we take what makes sense to add from each, but without fundamentally changing them so they're compromised."

>Both Federighi and Schiller believe the laptop is a form factor that's going to be around for a long time. "As far as our eyes can see, there will still be a place for this basic laptop architecture," Schiller said, pointing out that it's been useful for the past 25 years.

Hot off the presses from a few hours ago. Suck a dick you stupid Microchild.

>>57271832
I believe you are either using your computer in the wrong place or you are fully surrounded by retards. Either way it's your fault, retards will always trip on shit or you are just that autistic kid that is always on the hallway using his laptop.jpg

>>57272133
Not to mention if he wasn't a petulant man-child, he'd buy a $20-30 magnetic breakaway cable similar to a magsafe cable and be done with it.

>>57271832
that's unfortunate for you. in the ~4 years that i've had apple products i've never had someone trip over my cable - maybe it's because i spent the last ~22 years being conscious of where my cable is and warning people if they seem to be walking by not paying attention - but the outcome is the same. i didn't benefit measurably from magsafe's quick release feature.

i'm pretty sure i'll benefit from my laptop cable (and AC adapter) being much cheaper to get. and USB battery packs potentially working (i don't know of any that can top up a laptop, but now that it's all on USB it's likely a matter of time)

>>57267418

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChTqYlDjtI

Any place I can but new pros of the older model?

I was looking at a pro. I thought I'd wait now I want the old model give me it back fucking jews reee.

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>>57272123

Oh your tears are sweet. Gibe moar.

>>57272133
kind of this. i refuse to believe that there are really intellectual differences between people in different geographic areas, but where i live i just don't see anyone walking around that carelessly. people just aren't that stupid around here.

most non-apple laptops have no magnetic detachment thing. the whole world has had to grow accustomed to walking around laptop AC adapters conscious of tripping them and pulling the laptop. we don't live in a world full of drunk blondes

>>57272192
I see this like the mentality of people who dont think cell phones need cases because ONLY clumsy retards could possibly drop a phone.

Sure, most people are going to be aware and not trip over it, but shit happens. I'd rather have a breakaway cable than not.

That being said, I personally would be fine with an alternative USB type-C breakaway cable, I see no benefits to a propriety apple magsafe cable in 2016.

>>57272192
and don't forget that if you are using an ac adapter you are close to the plug and the cables aren't hanging around like some stupid booby trap. If your laptop is plugged across a hallway with a lot of people wallking you deserved to get your shit fucked up.
Still I think magsafe was cool and never had a problem with it but certainly I can live without it and actually I hope to see someone else using in the future. MNy fucking life and the life of my equipment doesn't depend on it the least.

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>>57272123
Jeezus Shill! I understand spin, but you should pace yourself instead of responding to EVERY post! I know it's your job to tell people what Apple wants them to hear, but they don't seem to be liking where Apple's going. Maybe Apple should listen a little more?

>>57266891
I bet they're trying to see how terrible they can make their products, waiting until the die hard fans start to think of leaving the cult, then theyll bring back the headphone jack and sd reader as INNOVATION to reclaim their retarded fan base.

should I cop the current gen 15" MBP while they're still being sold?

>>57272229
i guess, but this is like saying that you should get insurance for your laptop. of course it's unlikely that anything bad will happen, but it *might*!

i agree that it'll be nice to see the option for consumers to add a breakaway thing, but again i'm just not in demand for it. i'll need to replace like 5 magsafe adapters all over my home and office, but replacing them with Anker power bank things will be nice, and replacing those cables with usb cables will be really nice.

again i'm not buying this laptop or any laptop for at least a year or two, but the proposition of replacing all of my proprietary AC adapters for USB cables isn't holding me back.

>>57266891
This was the worst mistake Apple made with the new macbook.

MS even has a magnetic port for charging now...
>mfw MS is going to poach all the old macbook customers

Landseer orana

after all this news think Apple will discount their mid-2012 Macbook Pros? I've always wanted an Apple laptop I can upgrade myself

>>57272133
I believe what you believe is completely irrelevant.
>>57272160
Good for you. Many others did.

>>57272349
No one cares about what you're in the market for, you self important piece of shit.

>>57267866
They're trying to get ahead of the innovation curve, eventually having a standard adaptor for every type of connection is going to be a far superior system, however as of right now it's not quite there. But when it is your Mac you buy now will be up to it.

>>57267750
>yfw they actually brought up Minecraft being on the new Apple Chromecast app

>>57272600
that was a side remark to point out that i don't have a horse in this race at the moment. it sounds like you have something you need to work through. i wish i could say i'm here for you, but you really need professional help.

>>57272588
my sense is that many others didn't though, because if this was a compelling feature apple probably would keep it going so they could say that they were still the only laptop manufacturer that gave a shit about your laptop.

if you can provide me with some evidence that this is happening (and more than just "i see it!"), then i'll be open to being convinced, but given that the rest of laptop manufacturers don't have a magsafe equivalent and we're not seeing laptops being jerked from the tables on a regular basis, i'm inclined to think that this is a nice thing to have but not a necessity.

you're going to have to be slightly more conscious of who's stumbling over your AC adapter. welcome to the rest of the world.

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>>57267240
>people exploit ethernet over power
>somehow manage to exploit USB-C
>macfags become the botnet

>>57273012
>my sense is that many others didn't though, because if this was a compelling feature apple probably would keep it going so they could say that they were still the only laptop manufacturer that gave a shit about your laptop.
Since when has Apple cared what the customer wants?
>if you can provide me with some evidence that this is happening (and more than just "i see it!"), then i'll be open to being convinced, but given that the rest of laptop manufacturers don't have a magsafe equivalent and we're not seeing laptops being jerked from the tables on a regular basis, i'm inclined to think that this is a nice thing to have but not a necessity.
What, you want me to find a study saying laptops get pulled off of tables? It's not going to happen.
>you're going to have to be slightly more conscious of who's stumbling over your AC adapter.
Sure, but because of that I'm definitely not buying Apple again. They have nothing to offer over anything else and are, in fact, inferior to the real professional offerings.

>>57269960
>CollegeBook Pro

>>57268806
It amazes me when I find this much unwarranted ass hurt in comments

>>57273053
to all of what you said: "ok"

Glad they did this 2bh. It makes them cheaper.

>>57268501
>Can't wait to see what they do with the next Mac Pro...

It'll be a giant rose gold aluminum buttplug.

No ports, except yours of course.

>>57273247
ahhhh lulz epic burn bro!

>>57268532
Wanna know how I know you've never designed anything?

>>57268537
An apple brand apple adapter, you silly cunt.

With my mac I also have windows 10 pro and office 365. on my pc's I use linux most of the time.
Ye shalt repent of your disrespectful comments about mac. Microsoft has an impressive line up not but it still needs some bug work. The apps in the microsoft store? I need not say more....

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mfw microsoft has a more advanced magnetic charger than apple

So does this mean we might end up seeing a thunderbolt/USB-C connector on future iphones ?

>>57273332

never

apple will always use a proprietary connector on their phones... desu, once they use wireless charging, they'll git rid of all the ports

>apple does anything stupid or misleading in an ad
wow macfag xddd
>microsoft does the same shit with surface computers and makes "TWICE AS FAST" claims about the same goddamn intel processors
IT'S OKAY WHEN I DO IT

>>57273330
yes, the magnetic flux field is 7x s more. It speed up the drives and super charges the c drive. it's also efficient! No ozone depleting agents out of power shell. That was a huge problem.

>>57273385
it's a data + power cable
kinda nice

>>57273356
We don't claim to defend Microshit, we're just pointing out Apple being shitty.

Tu quoque, and false dichotomy.

>>57270976
touch screen on a laptop is only not retarded if you go the whole way and make it a convertible with a pen.

>>57271973
Which is why I can't justify spending $2400 on a laptop.

>>57271167
you're obviously lying, jewish tricks don't work here.

>>57266891
Getting rid of magsafe is literally losing value

It is one of the best apple patents in the industry

>>57271973

If the consumer wants his cake and to eat it too, it's the company's duty to satisfy those needs. Apple has always fucked up a bit, but the new rMBP is them going full retard and expecting more money for what is essentially the Jackson Pollocks of laptops. Fuck that. You can get a HP convertible for $700 or a laptop with no ports for $2,800.

>>57273731
nope.
usb-c charger on the retina macbook already detaches when pulled.
so now we have the same functionality, but common standard and no more fraying charger cables from Apple with no strain relief.

>>57273865
Are you comparing the pull out game of magsafe to usbc? They even use it to dock the phones... It is a lot deeper and hard to unplug

>>57273904
but this time the cable from the charger isn't fixed and less secure in the charger than laptop, so it detaches there instead of pulling the retina macbook.

Magsafe was fucking terrible. The cable always frayed and the connector itself would disconnect itself on the fucking blanket if you dare tried using your laptop in bed. Also my magsafe charger died out of the blue after not having been used for a few months. Fuck it.

>>57266891
Haha faggot>>57267531
Lol loser

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>>57273981
>>57273997
Are you guys for real? Fuck this shithole

>>57266891
Pretty much the only good proprietary port ever used in an Apple product. Looks like Tim Cuck ruined it.

>>57274052
magsafe 1 was better than magsafe 2.
L > T

>>57273228
Nigger, have you SEEN the MSRP on these?

>people actually liked having their power cord fray into a sparking fire hazard after a year
I hope magsafe rots in hell, it was always garbage

>>57267531

>replaced ExpressCard with a fixed SD card slot when an SD-Express adapter cost like fucking pennies at the expense of literally every other possible function
>removed optical
>removed HDMI
>now removing SD

Just discontinue the Macbook line and just make iPads if you're going to keep stripping literally everything from them.

>>57274073
1 was T
2 was L

OP's filename is wrong

>>57274142
nope, second revision of magsafe 1 was L.
magsafe 2 was back to clunky and always strainted T as shown in OP.

>>57274126
To be fair, ExpressCard was dead long before Apple fully got rid of it. When did they get rid of the optical audio out? My rMBP has it.

>>57268537
plug it into you time machine and go back to 2006

>>57274220
>When did they get rid of the optical audio out?
it's not confirmed but for the 2016 there are no sub-items under the "headphone jack" item at all, so also no sub-item that says "Support for audio line out (digital/analog)"

current:
http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/
prev:
http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs-2015/

I wonder what they can remove now. The memory perhaps?

>>57274203
this. magsafe 1 was quickly forgotten because the revised version of it was so much better. but then this is the case with literally everything apple does - the first MBA was garbage. so was the first iPhone. so was the first iPad. i mean sure there was something redeeming in most of them that made them more compelling for some people than the crap competitors were pinching out, but the second generation was always the one you wanted to wait for.

>>57266891
F

>>57267797
And the least expansible one.
Seriously, what the fuck was Ive smoking? Lots of costly pci-e cards became unuseable in that mac pro, unless you bought a costly and slow thunderbolt pci-e case.
Meanwhile, the 4,1 and 5,1 mac pro with a new graphic card and "new" processors still run strong to this dead (unless you're thinking on do 4k shit)

Courage, OP. Those guys are the most courageous on the market. They deserve a slow clap.

>>57269960
SiriBook Pro

>>57266891
magsafe is a decent idea but the issue is that the cable would fall out like fucking all the time

Steve would be rolling in his grave

>>57276261
There is a tornado inside Steve Jobs' casket from turning over in his grave so much.

>>57273093
This tbqhf

>>57267847
Im not liking the choises on the new macbook, but dude, the zbook is absolute shit, they have sick specs but HP has really lost their "corporate edge" with these; on the G3s the docking stations are super shit and there are so many production fuckups, stay away

>>57276206
you're not supposed to walk around with it plugged in. you're supposed to charge it at your desk, or in an otherwise relatively stationary position.

i can't believe i have to explain this shit.

I remember when /g/ would talk down on steve like it's nothing, now they wish he'd come back lol. you guys are idiots

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>>57268867
>>57269312
also the reason iOS 7 looks so different is cause they fired Scott and Jony took over interface design, which was the beginning of the end for apple imo.

I miss the old 3D looking interface design, flat design is a meme. COME BACK TO US SCOTT

>>57266891
>magsafe
>af games
>as fuck games
>ass fuck games

Apple just keeps removing so many things on their products, including standard features that people still need.

Eventually people will just stop buying their products, especially their laptops, as they're selling them at a premium price while they have less functionality than a $400 laptop at walmart.

>>57278672
>Apple just keeps removing so many things on their products, including standard features that people still need.
like standard power ports, right?

>>57278672
Everything over USB is the future for I/O. You're acting like this is disruptive, but at worst it's premature. Apple has done this a lot, though. The MBA was ridiculed for dropping an optical drive way before anyone felt it was appropriate.

The argument that they're removing things from the product is stupid. At worst you can argue that they're hastily rushing us toward the consolidation of all wired I/O activity being handled by USB Type C. But if you're buying a laptop with an eye toward the next 2 or 3 years, then this is the least painful option.

Apple hasn't ever supported legacy users. If you're upset about this, I honestly don't know what to say. This is like bitching that the sun gave you a sunburn. Stop going outside, you dumb idiot.

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>now microsoft is the only one left with a magnet charger
>microsoft is now the new apple
we've come full cycle

>>57278753
also
>apple is the company that's promoting a standard, non-proprietary AC adapter for laptops
>microsoft has its own proprietary garbage
we really have come full circle

>>57278676
>>57278691
I'm talking about removing things like the aux port on the phone, and optical drive on their laptop. Those are things that people still use.

>>57278691
no you're wrong

everything over usb is a huge step backwards only promoted by ignorant unintelligent dickbags like yourself

>>57278691
This is the most autistic rant I've seen all week

>>57278770
>removing optical drive on their laptop
are you bitching that they did it, or that they did it too early for your comfort?

>>57278780
really articulate, bro. i'm sure that your vague angry tantrum has convinced someone on the fence that you're right.

>>57278786
i'm really hurt by this because it matters to me what a retard on 4chan who probably bitched about retina displays and optical drives thinks about me.

if any of you can come up with some way that apple could have pushed forward on USB type C without alienating *any* customers, i'd be open to hearing it. keep in mind that there's too little space in the current MBP for type A ports, and even if you gave a stopgap solution (e.g. thicker laptop and a type A port for legacy components), then it would have
1) not satisfied the people who also would've bitched about not having a Thunderbolt port (since a lot of display adapters relied on that), and
2) signaled to everyone that this year's laptop is a stopgap until the next generation when it goes all in.

i'm not here to defend apple for the retarded shit that they do, but when you idiots grasp at anything to complain about it, and it's clear that no other alternative could possibly have worked, i feel obligated to point out that hypocritical bullshit.

there's so much retarded shit that apple has done in the past 3 months. stop using the most retarded mental gymnastics to nitpick about the least shitty options.

>>57278849
Pure autism

Also, "ITS THE FUTURE LOL" is both debatable and irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that right now, people want and need aux ports and optical drives. Regardless of what happens in the future, that makes their products gimped in the here and now.

>>57278880
>Pure autism
you've said this a few times now. it doesn't get more convincing the more times you say it. it just sounds like you're repeating yourself while you have a meltdown.

>right now, people want and need ... optical drives
maybe you do. i think a lot of people on /g/ would even disagree with that claim though. and certainly off of /g/ a lot of people would tell you that they have no need for optical drives in their laptops.

i don't know how to get you to acknowledge that there are other people out there with different use cases than you, or that those people are no more "wrong" than you are, or that indeed those people might outnumber you. accepting any one of those things would be a huge breakthrough here.

>>57266891
Give them one year and they will put it back and say they invented it all over.

>>57278880
>people want and need aux ports and optical drives.
what are aux ports? do you mean aux as in 3.5mm jacks? or aux as in the generic "auxiliary" ports (like... any supplemental thing)?

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>>57278895
Go on. Keep going.

>>57278910
It's more likely that Lenovo and other manufacturers will go full Type C in the next year, and /g/ will insist that when Lenovo did it that was smart and foresightful of them, but when Apple did it that was shitty and terrible.

Then it'll come to light that the Lenovo version only allows you to charge from one port, and /g/ will say that of course Apple would let you charge via any port, because Apple consumers are retarded and can't be trusted to plug it into the right port.

Then /g/ will make a point of forgetting that Apple did it first, and that Apple does this a lot (dropping support for something maybe a year or two too early, but ultimately correctly).

>>57278930
i asked you to acknowledge any of three things that an autistic person would never be able to come to terms with. i feel like until you can get to that point, there's no use continuing to browbeat you with this. if you need another (You), here you go buddy.

>>57278951
No no, by all means, keep it up. This is great.

>>57278691
>>57278849
>>57278895
>>57278942
Hahaha what the fuck is this

Apple fanboy having a rage-induced tantrum?

Fyi, you need to be 18+ to post on this board, but I do enjoy seeing sperg-outs like this. They bump up the board's entertainment value when posted in moderation.

>>57279040
you're definitely reading too much into these posts if you're seeing rage.

>>57279040
Lenovo is definitely going to follow the MBP's lead on this. And I'm neither 2 of the posts, nor underage.

It might be more comforting to imagine that all the posts disagreeing with you are one outlier, but in this case that's not reality.

>>57276143
>And the least expansible one.
I wouldn't say that. It's got, what, 6 TB2 ports? That's about as many PCI-E slots you'll get on a large workstation. Only your Mac Pro will stop being sexy when it has all the fucking PCI-E card adapters hanging off of it. I'd like a 5,1 Mac Pro, but I really can't deal with processors that old for that kind of price premium when I'll be running software in a Windows VM anyway.

>>57278578
That's a shame. Guess Dell it is. I wonder when they'll have an equivalent machine.

>>57279750
New lenovos are the lesser evils atm from my experience in corporate world
The new Zbook g3s have had so much shit with the thunderbolt interface and docking-stations (that are proprietary small planks that cost 200-300 bucks each for a few usb ports, ethernet and two DP out)

Havent tested out Dell, but both the EliteBook 840 G1 display issues and the new G3 with fucking 14 GOD DAMN SCREWS just to take off the back lid for a simple fucking battery / keyboard removal and now the new zbook shit makes me wanna give dell a shot.

I want the old era with the old EliteBook Folios and Probook 8XXX, 6XXX and Thinkpad X20/X30 and good workstations...

Personally for my own computers I just hold out and buy used for now. Maybe something good will come in next refresh with kaby, but seriously i dont recommend the new HP Zbooks or EliteBooks

>>57279852
Yea the dock is pretty bullshit. For 300 bucks I want 10GbE at least, but as I understand it they haven't been updated in a few years. I've heard good things about the Dell Precision laptops, but my last experience with a Dell product was pretty abysmal.

I'd go with Lenovo, but ever since that malware thing I don't trust them.

>>57274203
My 2008 blackbook came with a T
>>57275347
Then i bought a replacement and it was a silver L

>>57279960
yes, because it was still magsafe 1, but revision 2 (or i guess revision 1 since the original one wasn't a revision)

>>57267632
>there is no escape

good, these fucking keys are 30 years out of date by now, time to make a modern keyboard for modern computing

>>57279996
>modern computing
That is?

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>>57279923
The zbook thunderbolt 3 dock is their newest, would be nice but the cable is tight as fuck and has wiring issues so if u move it it will disconnect and is hard so if you move laptop a few cm you will lift your dock aswell and move it, since its so light. doesnt sit well on any desk. nice computers, yeah, but if they dont work whats the point.

i would wait until all manufacturers has successfully flattened out all the issues with "new tech" such as TB3 and usb-c and whatever. Next year maybe it will be more stable.

>>57279750
Protip: MS actually has a magsafe like connector...

>>57280014
not cli based

>>57280091
That's user specific though, there is nothing stopping you from using CLI for all you need. However the majority of people are used to a GUI at this point and will remain with such interfaces likely forever.

>>57280036
Yea, I'm probably not going to make a purchase until next year. Docking doesn't really matter to me, but I can't deal with build quality issues.
>>57280041
Great, but they don't make any workstations.

>>57280175
Surface Book is as much of a workstation machine as a Macbook Pro...

>>57280214
Yea, now.

>>57272613
>They're trying to get ahead of the innovation curve, eventually having a standard adaptor for every type of connection is going to be a far superior system, however as of right now it's not quite there. But when it is your Mac you buy now will be up to it.

what about no sd card slot, every fucking camera and tons of other stuff use them, now i have to have an sd dongle and a dongle to use the thumbdrive usbs that every office person on earth uses

those two things were retarded to leave off the machine, it costs nothing and would not have made the machine thicker

>>57272133
>I believe you are either using your computer in the wrong place or you are fully surrounded by retards.
you clearly don't have kids.

>>57272123
yeah, that's why there never was an iphone bigger than the origi...oh.

>>57267750
C O U R A G E

>>57271973
>tf2 spent a total of 300 bucks on a T420 + sata ultrabay + 250 gb SSD + 8gb of RAM
Sure as fucking hell feels like they got everything right with this laptop. Except for the screen, which can also be upgraded.

>>57268501
Professionals are a tiny segment of the market and they keep their machines for decades

Apple doesn't give a fuck about them

Consumerist idiots who call everyone who isn't a purchase-addicted tech geek a luddite/autist keep their machines for months and make up a large portion of the market

Apple does give a fuck about them

>>57280091
Yeah, fuck typing. I want to talk to my computer instead.

>>57267304
>waaah my overpriced minimalist aesthetic brand won't add unnecessary ports

>>57267597
Why would someone who already has a Macbook not be able to afford a Macbook?

>>57283181
you can still type, there's just no need for such a function key as escape in a modern OS, relic of the 70's

>>57266891
>Applefags
>defending made made up shit that is not off the shelf

>>57267732
That design is pretty clever. It wouldn't surprise me if ASUS or someone made a derivation from it.

>>57268203
Wow good observation, fucking apple, lawlz

>>57267750
So the keyboard has actually a screen for hieroglyphs?

>>57267750
>Apple what the fuck are you guys doing? It's like you're deliberately trying to send your brand into the gutter now you got enough money to not need to worry about things any more. All this pandering to the "meme generation" with emoji keyboards and hundreds of dongles for "muh thinness" is making you look like tryhard microsoft trying to be cool and hip when they talk about minecraft.
Well, at least Microsoft got the Xbox - a machine that is pretty cool and doesn't afraid of anything after poor, unfortunate CWC ruined Playstation for everyone.

you can probably still get the old style, when the new macbooks drop they'll move the surplus old stock to the refurb page and shave a few hundred off the price. i just bought a new one last week when i found out the new mbp was going to suck.

>>57275329
>usb c based ram
>no plug for ram on laptop
>hurray innovation

>>57276296
His casket has been moved to china to supply cheap power the the commie huts for the kids that work on his products

>>57278691
My mom has a iphone 7, her hp laptop has a disk drive for her Seinfield and Sopranos

>>57278942
>this post
Rump rustled mother fucker, you need to be 18+ to post here

>>57272123

>For the seventh time this year, a man from his grave nervously states

>t..t..this kills the PC!! right guys?!?

>>57266891
F

>>57269312
Just read his Wikipedia page and THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN

Mismanagement after they fire their genius, and the guy comes back after 15 years to save the company.

It would be GOAT.

>>57270990
That doesn't mean the system is bad, because it's not, I only use my Macbook at home and move from room to room, I'm always careful with the cable and the charger of m 2013 Macbook Pro is as good as new.

Also, there are higher quality third party chargers, one of my friend kept breaking his original one until he bought one with a higher quality cable.

>>57267804
>Did you steal mommy's credit card again jimmy?
Of course he did. He must do many favors for mommy without getting any GBP's, because he's been a bad boy. Many favors in mommy's strange, big bed that doesn't have any pokemans on the sheets.

I've got a question. Can someone explain to me why Apple seems to increase their price, the more I/O they remove?

>>57286076
Because they're greedy jews and they know they can get away with it. They also don't give a fuck about the computer division anymore since they make most of their money from phones, ipods, ipads and watches now.

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>>57283301
>It wouldn't surprise me if ASUS or someone made a derivation from it.

Both HP and Samsung have made knockoffs.

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>>57267750

What a piece of shit bike. Oh my goodness.