How did apple go from aesthetic design leader to producer of

steve jobs died

they got too cocky

>>57235362
you're doing it wrong

these kinds of threads usually praise older tech

>>57235362
Easy. They were never the "aesthetic design leader"

>>57235362
>that 2004-era bezel

they ran out of companies to steal from

iMacs are the only good looking apple product. my budget laptop looks better than any macbook and actually has ports, a numpad and a optical drive. fuck you apple.

I thought Apple were the leaders of cheap, expandable, hardware?

>>57235362
where the fuck are my function keys.

>>57235535
>optical drive
Why would anyone need an optical drive in 2016? Are you gonna stick your flat pancake dick in it?

>>57235362
>no physical escape key
DOA

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>>57235362
>It appears Touch ID is built into a nearly-invisible power button located next to the display.

How convinient, it's not like they want to know who uses the computer everytime it boots :^)

>>57236086
FBI raids are going to be more fun for FBI

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>the touch strip will be its own ios device
>you now need to jailbreak your fucking keyboard
Just end me now. I can't stand this timeline anymore.

>>57236175
that's some fifth-element-Multipass-shit going on.

>>57236175
fucking kek

>>57235362
Nobody cares, the XPS 13 is the only laptop you should be considering these days.

DAY ONE BUY. Stay mad poorfags. Probably will also get a Mac Mini to replace my much more powerful desktop (i7-6950K and GTX 1080).

>>57235646
haha you have no ports

>>57236310
well memed

>>57236175
gross

>>57236175
Welcome to the future of computers.

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>>57236324

>>57236312
but i do

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>>57236175
I don't even.

>>57235362
Being design leaders doesn't mean those designs were ever good.

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>>57235440
>implying

>>57236859
>braun space heater.jpg

>tfw you bought a MacBook Pro 2015
>one with normal ports
>one without the USB C meme
>no dongles for me
>no hubs for me
>perfect for what I need, can go through 4 days of classes on one charge

2015 is best MacBook pro

>>57236252
Razer blade stealth is actually pretty nice too senpai

>>57236944
same, the 13.3 inch 2015
best laptop i've used so far

>>57236252
>no osx
waste of money

>>57236859
Huh, didn't know Apple made cheese graters

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>>57235464
looks good desu

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>>57235362
I'm concerned about the lack of tactile feedback because i can't see function keys when I usually used my computer.

>>57236997
>liking osx
You're a waste of a man

where does escape go?

>>57237171
best operating system

>>57236175
This nigga has no idea what he's talking about.

>>57237171
not an argument.
the user experience is superior and while many people can't leave behind windows, no one ever goes back once they do.

>>57236175
kek this will make it impossible to have function keys in linux or windows

i bet apple will also discontinue boot camp and stop providing windows drivers with this macbook pro

>>57235399
>dubs
>truth
checks out

>>57237171
I want to like Linux (specifically KDE Fedora), but it all feels so unfinished. GUI elements aren't always consistent and other things just seem like they don't care or don't know there's something wrong.

Lan
guage

should not be a thing.

XPS 13, you fucking retards, it's the best.

>>57237283
Oh yea, why the fuck is there a tacky ass gamer faggot mouse as the icon for the mouse settings in KDE? Looks ridiculous.

>>57237210
I went from OSX to Windows 7, fucking blow me.

>>57237293
>Can't adjust brightness
>Gets hot under stress
>Dell

>Then there’s the laptop’s overall case temperatures during everyday use. I’m using this Dell lightly most of the time, running up to 10 tabs in Firefox, Skype, and usually Word. Even so, the laptop’s metallic back-casing gets to about 40 degrees Celsius on a daily basis. Again, if you tend to keep the laptop on a desk, that’s not going to bother you much, but I for one tend to use the laptop on my lap most of the time or on my thighs while lying on the sofa or even in bed. This causes my legs to sweat during the summer days. The experience is much nicer during the autumn and winter months, but for those of you living in hot environments, keep in mind that this laptop tends to get warmer than most others with daily use.


Also this:
http://www.tomsguide.com/faq/id-3204454/fix-top-common-dell-xps-issues.html

>>57237210
I left shortly after Yosemite came out, OSX is just a giant fucking bloated shitpile. Sierra isn't better at all with slower animations in a pathetic attempt to hide UI stutters.

>>57237293
>no osx
waste of money

>>57237229
> stop providing windows drivers

I hope so. Windows needs to be forgotten. It's so fucking bad.

>>57237373
>Can't adjust brightness
False.
>Gets hot under stress
Oh ok, show me a laptop with the same dimensions and an i5 that doesn't.
>Dell
Not an argument.

>>57237424
Opinion.

on dell xps
The fan is the worst, it always kicks in when I am charging the laptop, even though the temperature isn’t much different when running on battery. I’ve tried the latest BIOS update, played with Dell Command Power Manager, but to no avail. Plug the charger in, the fan starts whirring like crazy, take it out, it’s all silent. Dell forum is full of similar complaints but no one seems to be doing anything even after all this time.
Such a beautiful machine, marred by such an trivial issue. It’s a shame.

Heaty, noisy, shallow keys, screen problems, low wifi signal affecting all dell xps 13" machines with fhd display.

Qhd display doesn't have brightness problem but it has all the other problems.

Dell, more like Hell

I just can't take people that use Windows seriously. At most Silicon Valley companies, including Google and Facebook, admitting to using Windows in an interview is an automatic dismissal.

You just can't do serious programming work on Windows.

>>57237210
Your opinions are also not an argument, anon. Also a fallacy, since you assumed you have to use Windows on the XPS.

>>57237447
>False.
No, the guy is right, the XPS only has automatic brightness adjustment

>Not an argument.
If we were talking business models then sure, but their consumer stuff is well known to be absolute crap.

>>57237450
Whatever you say, iPajeet!

>accidentally touch
>126$ gone
gg apple

>>57236944
4 days? How?

>>57237450
>low wifi signal affecting all dell xps 13" machines with fhd display.
That has nothing to do with the display. The FHD version probably comes with the Broadcomm WLAN card. I use the Intel one and besides based Linux compatibility, it also picks up signal way better.

>>57237476
>No, the guy is right, the XPS only has automatic brightness adjustment
No, it doesn't. It has that BY DEFAULT, the QHD version can have it disabled by reflashing the firmware (literally a 1-click .exe).

>If we were talking business models then sure, but their consumer stuff is well known to be absolute crap.
Ok dude, show me the failure rate for the XPS 13. I don't want to be a dick and make you scour the Internet for some pdf, but the XPS is well built. Every review I read pointed out this, and after owning one I agree.

"Display

One of the main reasons why users might select the XPS 13 is its display. Dell uses a panel with an especially thin frame and so can incorporate a display with a diagonal of 13.3-inches in a compact device which usually houses a 12-inch display. Dell offers two options: the FHD display (1920x1080 pixels) with matte surface of our test model or a QHD+ panel with glossy surface and touch support. The first one is favored in the offered entry-level configurations (max. 256 GB SSD, 8 GB RAM), while QHD+ editions are available with 512 GB SSDs and 16 GB RAM in addition. Apart from these aspects, there is another criterion, which is not apparent for the user at the first glance. It is called CABC (Content Adaptive Brightness/Backlight Control). Both display variants include this energy-saving solution out-of-the-box.

>However, it can be disabled in the QHD+ edition "

Source notebookcheck dell xps 2016
Dell users too stupid to control display brightness.

>>57235440
Yes, actually there have been since the aluminum PowerBooks.

>>57237520
that's for the old skylake xps 13 (9350).
can't yet be disabled on the kaby lake one (9360)

>>57236980
If that laptop had non-meme level bezels it would be the best laptop on the market hands down. Just throw a black sleeve over the meme level razer logo and you would be all set.

the new xps 13 has had several problems.
1. blue screen of death multiple times
2. had to kill windows and reinstall
3. my wifi goes on and off and requires a reboot
4. resolution is off when i plug into a monitor

I purchased the top of the line specs of the XPS13 from the Microsoft store online a week ago - i7, 16GB RAM, 512GB HD. After installing Win 10 Pro and Office 365, I had a problem with the computer not going to sleep about 50% of the time. It kept turning back on about 1 second after putting it to sleep mode. There was also a frequent message that the graphics card stopped working but was automatically reset. Brought it to the Microsoft store and they decided to replace the machine.

On the second day, the new computer also didn't go to sleep on occasion (less frequently than the first one) but on the 3rd day, the computer wouldn't shut down (not just sleep) after 3 attempts. Also had the same message about the graphics driver resetting automatically. The next day (today), the computer loss connectivity to my WIFI network for no apparent reason. My other computers were connecting fine. The system wound not automatically reconnect to my WIFI network even after rebooting twice but after manually resetting the wireless adapter, it worked again.
For a premium laptop costing over $2K, this is simply unacceptable.

but there are too many glitches and Dell is ignoring all of them...essentially turning it into an expensive lemon of a computer. Simply google this computer with the words "wifi issues"or "track pad" issues and you can get a sense of the significant problems. My laptop has significant wifi card issues which keeps it from connecting to any network that is not extremely strong. My track pad constantly freezes and I find I have to constantly do hard reboots on it to get it to work...on a computer that is less than 2 months old!!! AND a computer that is priced near top of range!

http://www.dell.com/uk/p/xps-13-9350-laptop/pd

>>57237698
>1. blue screen of death multiple times
Don't use Windows.
>2. had to kill windows and reinstall
Don't use Windows.
>3. my wifi goes on and off and requires a reboot
Don't use Windows (works perfectly on Linux at least).
>4. resolution is off when i plug into a monitor
OMG what is scaling?!

>>57237198

with OSX, you still can't keep the computer awake when you shut the clamshell

also, can't run the mac on AC if you don't have the battery in

it's an archaic system

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>>57237373

1. you can adjust the brightness -- are you really this retarded?

2. gets hot -- yeah, if you bury it under a pillow, otherwise its like any other laptop

3. dell business class is better than most

>>57237737
1st is actually a valid point, but it makes sense. I had to figure this out by myself as well. The battery only charges when it's under 90% to avoid small charges that would lessen the battery life
2nd is Windows problems, don't care.
3rd, again, never experienced, could be a bunch of stuff.
4th was the only actual flaw I've noticed on the XPS, it has a noise when the charger is on. It's not coil whine, but it's still annoying.
5th was laughable

I mean I can post a bunch of people complaining about their broken macs as well.

>>57237458
>Silicon Valley companies
>serious programming work

Lol

>>57237725
Linux gets shit battery life and most of the apps I need don't run at all under Linux.

>>57237907
>Linux gets shit battery life
I get around 9 hours on Fedora 24.
>and most of the apps I need don't run at all under Linux.
Not even with Wine? Fair point.

>>57237901
Everything that matters in tech is done in the valley. Despite the abundance of node.js faggots, not everything is webshit.

If you aren't in SV you simply aren't a very good programmer.

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>>57236376

>/lit/ visits /g/

>>57235362
It's not ugly but less functional. They are becoming less amd less functional by every iteratiom. You can't save embedded images on iOS now for example. They are fucking up everything.

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The peak of Apple design right here.

I say this as someone who has had nothing but problems with Apple products going back to the 1990s to the present, has never owned an Apple product, and never will (with the exception of buying an old iMac G4 and modding it with modern hardware).

>>57237938
>Everything that matters in tech is done in the valley

Sure, if you redefine "tech" to mean "consumer technology and gadgets"

>>57237980
Nah. Everything from AI to advanced chip development is all done in the valley.

>>57237504
not him but
>of class
probably using it 3 to 4 hours a day.

>>57237978
that looks hideous senpai

>>57237951
macOS included some words from DFW in the past.
one of the biggest Apple fanboys (daringfireball) is also a big DFW fanboy.

>>57235362
it is a byproduct of an untreated pancreatic cancer

>>57238003
Haifa is not in the valley, retard.

>>57235362
now that I think of it...
the bar looked good in the mockups and all
but I am starting to realize that it is stupid as fuck, and a totally uncalled feature

>>57238004
My Macbook Pro can get ~27 hours fairly easily if I'm programming and just using vim and Safari (no videos) with the brightness at a little less than half.

>>57238003

AI perhaps, but there are plenty of leading AI firms outside Silicon Valley (and outside America, besides); the majority of "advanced chip development" is done outside of it.

Besides, technology isn't just fucking computers

>>57238030
how so?

>>57237938
>living in "the bay area" ever
are you enjoying the aids?

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>>57236175

hey guys, here is an exclusive look at what is happening at the cemetary

>>57238029
Haifa only does a tiny fraction of chip development. The overwhelming majority is done in Folsom and Santa Clara.

>>57238067
>Intel = all microprocessors

>>57238049
what do you need it for?

many people HARDLY uses the function keys
so they converted them into multimedia keys
now they are going to put buttons in there

at a price, of course

in a way, I think that it is stupid because I am using a laptop that supports 10 finger gestures and stylus

how about having the same stupid display (to avoid damaging ipad sales) while having an stupid touchbar over the keyboard....

>>57238084
Most AMD and ARM development is also done in the valley.

>wanting ESC and F buttons

enjoy your outdated buttons

>>57236944
> owning the 2015 rMBP
nah dude, the 2014 rMBP is literally the best

>>57238091
i got memed into a windows device with a stylus. It was so awful to use an OS (windows 8 and 10) that has made few if any efforts to optimize stylus input even after all these years.

>>57237427
Agree. I don't give a fuck if people use macOS, Loonix, BSD or whatever, but Windows needs to die.

>>57238163
the anniversary update is basically 90% stylus input patches

no shill, I remember how awful was even last year

but this time it works better
the palm detection is almost flawless

what to improve: to this day, some third party apps are still detecting handwriting better than the Microsoft apps (onenote...)

Drawboard PDF and Nebo are fucking out of this world
I'm sure Microsoft is going to drop the dosh, specially on Nebo

>>57238193
It won't though. As long as pajeetsoft continues to develop directx and keep it proprietary, windows will always have at least 95% of the game market.

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what the fuck is anyone complaining about? it's not as if anyone actually serious uses vim on a mac. actually, it's as if anyone writes anything serious on a mac, nobody enjoys writing on that awful keyboard they all have now. most use it will get is some hipster writing facebook status updates in starbucks

first they ruined thinkpads now they are going to ruin macbooks. can't have anything anymore because millenial demands ruin eveyrthing

>>57238251
console has won and PC games are just ports now

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>>57238280
like any vim user didn't have ESC mapped to Capslock already.

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>>57235362
Who fucking cares about the function keys anyways? What matters the most is the new specs.

> tfw finally getting skylake (and Kaby when it's finally released)
> tfw pascal graphics (a 1070 would be sick, but they will probably use a 1050/1060)
> If they really keep AMD even after the legendary pascal graphical performance bump, it's still okay, the new AMD GPU's are pretty based, and they will probably put a 480M inside it
> Finally DDR4 (which will improve the Iris Pro performance by a good margin)
> Thinner, lighter and more powerful
> Touch ID

Please just do it!

Also:

> Macbook Air updated with fullHD display (or whatever 220pi retina resolution) and forceTouch
> regular MacBook price drop ($999 for base model?)

0.1% chance of happening:
> 17 inch retina MacBook Pro
> thin, light, almost bezelless
> Nvidia 1080 graphics
> Kabylake xeon
> huge battery
> 4K display
> two SSD slots
> up to 64GB of DDR4 RAM
> space gray only
> starting at $3299

Would you get the 17 inch /g/?

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>nice, a new feature, dank screen wow

then the truth hits

>>57238314
>17 inch
>huge battery
The current 15 inch model already has the largest battery allowed by the FAA at 99.8Wh, the FAA limit is 100Wh.

>>57238314
> Kabylake xeon

More like 0% chance of happening since Kaby Lake Xeon doesn't exist.

>>57238425
>FAA limit
>Land of the 'free'
>Can't take large batteries on planes

>>57238397
NO ESCAPE
key

>>57236086

>it's not like they want to know who uses the computer everytime it boots :^)

Yeah, Apple doesn't know who I am when the device I'm on is registered with my Apple ID already. You people are beyond retarded and you don't even know it.

>>57238483
You can take spare batteries at 101-160Wh each, but the one in the device must be under 100Wh.
Ask you know, Apple will never let you use a spare battery with their laptops.

>>57238500
now that everything will be USB-C, you can just use a power bank.

>>57238533
>4 usb c ports
>now 500 wh total

>>57235440
This is why I have a hard time taking /g/ seriously.

>>57236086
You guys are so paranoid.

>>57238280
>pretending not to be a millennial
is this a new meme?

>>57238314
You're retarded if you think they'll put anything but an igpu in their laptops from now on.

>>57236376
WTF I can't find this video on his channel or anywhere else. Did he delete it? https://www.youtube.com/user/crashcourse/videos

>>57238280
>most use it will get is some hipster writing facebook status updates in starbucks
>hipster

“Hipster” is a term co-opted for use as a meaningless pejorative in order to vaguely call someone else’s authenticity into question and, by extension, claim authenticity for yourself.

It serves no conversational function and imparts no information, save for indicating the opinions and preferences of the speaker.

Meanwhile, a market myth has sprung up around the term, as well as a cultural bogeyman consisting of elusive white 20-somethings who wear certain clothes (but no one will agree on what), listen to certain music (no one can agree on this either), and act a certain way (you’ve probably sensed the pattern on your own).

You can’t define what “that kind of behavior or fashion or lifestyle” actually is, nor will you ever be able to. That’s because you don’t use “hipster” to describe an actual group of people, but to describe a fictional stereotype that is an outlet for literally anything that annoys you.

The twist, of course, is that if it weren’t for your own insecurities, nothing that a “hipster” could do or wear would ever affect you emotionally. But you are insecure about your own authenticity - “Do I wear what I wear because I want to? Do I listen to my music because I truly like it? I’m certainly not like those filthy hipsters!” - so you project those feelings.

Suffice it to say, no one self-identifies as a hipster; the term is always applied to an Other, to separate the authentic Us from the inauthentic, “ironic” Them.

Marketing decides and the engineers follow suit. Plus Jony doesn't have to answer to Jobs anymore.

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>>57239373

>>57239409
Jony is too busy decorating hotel lobbies to care about the macbook pro.

>http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/25/13410414/apple--jony-ive-marc-newson-collaboration-claridge-christmas-tree

>>57239373
found the hipster

steve died and they hired a woman who was part of the fashion industry as one of the main executives

>>57237504
four days of class, meaning taking notes / writing papers on Word and some light research on Safari. 3-4 hours at most each day.

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>>57236376
>you will never have a qt nerdy bearded bf to tell you what dead trees to stare at

>>57239531
If they do it will probably cost at least $300.

>>57235362
>Promo picture of Macbook Pro, a laptop aimed at creative professionals
>decide to market features that make the person act as a consumer

They've completely lost sight of what made their products appealing in the first place.

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You know this would be a nice ITX case. Microsoft would probably make more money off selling a modified version to be used as an ITX case than they would off selling an xbox.

>>57238244
I remember just wanting to do what they advertise: Take a PDF, Circle something or write a note in fluid movements. It was amazing that their native "preview" app was so deficient that it couldn't even capture handwriting. And adobe reader was also a joke in terms of user experience. Navigating menus and generally dealing with an OS that had so many layers of shit piled on shit led me to sell the device after it sat on my shelf for a year. I know why microsoft needs to maintain such a legacy of compatibility but I can't go back there from macOS I now see.

My macbook unibody from late 2008 is still chugging after hours every single day but it's time for an upgrade in a few days.

>>57239373
hipster is an old phrase and it has always meant a pretty similar thing and now specifically means a counter culture subsection of young urban workers and bohemians. The hipster archetype was able to crystallize because the internet allows national culture to quickly come into existance.

>>57239582
13" MacBook Pro is the best selling Mac and is mostly bought by normal fags, retard

>>57235362
>Beats

>>57239754
But that one has an escape key anon.

>>57237283
This

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>>57235362
Where the fuck is the Escape key? Also Thickbads have had fingerprint readers for like a decade.

>>57239582
>Macbook Pro, a laptop aimed at creative professionals
Hasn't been for a loooong time. It was already over the time they switched to Intel. The Adobe suit ran so fucking bad, running a prior version using Rosetta was faster than running the Native Intel version for fucks sake.
Windows has been better at running the Adobe suite than OS X for ages now.

>>57235399
Truth. RIP

>>57237116
This is a beautiful pic man

>>57241272
>It was already over the time they switched to Intel.
No. It was over with the rMBPs, though those can still be useful as workstations.

>>57241272
Yet 99.9% of creative professionals still use Macs.

>>57241386
>source: my ass
I work in the Creative industry, a lot of Macs but it's very evenly split these days.

>>57241386
When I buy my new mac I'm going to give Affinity Designer a try and see if I can ditch Illustrator for now. 40-50 dollars is an insanely good price if it does as well as the reviewers say

>>57241417
Nobody at the top of a creative field uses Windows. You can't link me a respectable designer, 3D artist, architect etc. that primarily uses Windows.

It's all either OS X or Linux.

>>57241443
Affinity isn't bad. It still lacks some functionality that Illustrator has but it's a lot closer than most of the pathetic open sores attempts.

This is all pure speculation based on some NEETs 3d rendering

You're literally criticising apple for something they didn't do

>>57241458
thank you, i think they deserve my money for making an attempt to take down adobe. I'm running antique cs5 illustrator and have always been baffled how much they demand.
>>57241311
thank you, 3 minutes in Paintbrush

>>57241485
nope, it was grabbed right out of the latest software update.

You're literally criticizing strangers for something you are totally uninformed about.

>>57235440
t. bitter /tpg/ hipster

>>57237730
>can't run the mac on AC if you don't have the battery in
what the fuck am i reading

of course you can run any macbook on ac without the battery unplugged, even on unibody models with 'non user removable batteries'.

>>57241627
No you can't. The AC adapter doesn't provide enough power.

>>57241639
Which AC adapter doesn't have enough power? You're always supplied the correct one for your macbook, the only time I can see this happening is trying to use a 35w air on a pro with dgpu in it which likes a 95w one

fuck, the macbook I have at work for testing with has a dead battery and works just fine on ac. stop blowing out your ass.

>>57237549
the titanium powerbooks were some pretty motherfuckers too. i was engaged to a girl that had one when it was new, that motherfucker was solid.

>>57237978
same girl had that too. she gave it to her sister when the weird pudding cup looking one came out.

>>57235362
Jobs isn't there to rein in Ive anymore.

Theres a version without that shitty touch bar right?

>>57241445
Nigga what are you talking about? Architects use Windows all the time.

Hell even the super expensive CAD shit like NX which has Linux and OS X support will only have all of its features if it's running on Windows.

>>57239533
>ONE THING

>>57239657
I tought the same
Drawboard PDF (a third party app) is installed on every Surface out of the box because of that

it is the same old division stupidity of Microsoft
one division debuts a feature, and nobody uses it until 1 year later.... pretty stupid

>>57236413
this is a good fuckin movie

>>57237519
>No, it doesn't. It has that BY DEFAULT, the QHD version can have it disabled by reflashing the firmware (literally a 1-click .exe).

fucking kek at this damage control

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>>57235362
>paying 325$ for a pair of pink Beats by Dre

>>57235429
>>57237450
>>57238304
>>57238496
>>57239009
>>57241567
>>57243375

my poopy is hot!!! hot poop!!! my anus is stinging!! xDD dont eat hot food!! poopy hurt!

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>>57239373
Got some strong reality here for you.

>>57238314
macbooks use AMD graphics retarded macfag

>>57237698
this is mac thread you idiot. go be poor somewhere else

Isn't that the power button?

>TO PAY PRESS POWER BUTTON

Also, what happens if it comes up with that, but freezes so the cancel button doesn't work? Do you risk making the transaction or wait for the computer to go flat?

>>57245531

Apple switches between them whenever they feel like it dumb /v/poster

>>57245531
Nope, they switch between AMD and Nvida for dedicated graphics all the time. The MBP has gone something like this:
>Original to 2007: AMD (X1600)
>2007-2011: Nvidia (8600, 9400, 9600, 320 and 330M)
>2011-2012: AMD (6000-series)
>2012-2015: Nvidia (650 and 750M)
>2015-?: AMD (M370X)

>>57238498
>having appleid on real name
>not using giftcards

>>57235399
You mean the accidental suicide.

>>57235612
>I thought Apple were the leaders of cheap, expandable, hardware?
~30 years ago

>>57235399
First post best post

>>57243375
it's not a movie though you stupid nigger

>>57238251
>>>>/v/

>>57235399
https://youtu.be/gBECPAxUUJg

>>57241507
OPs mock-up is not from Apple

All we know for sure is they added a keyboard with no function keys, so it's possible they just got rid of them like they did all the ports on the MacBook

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>>57237447
Xiaomi mi notebook air 13.3

Only gets hot when using the dedicated graphics card. Similar form factor to xps. Daily use never gets to rediculous temps.
Worthy mention is the amazing keyboard and touchpad.

>>57237229
It's not like you can even press escape to boot in to another OS. They got rid of the key.

>>57235362
Is this another shitty pajeet mockup or finally an official confirmation?

>>57237730
wrong on both accounts, faggot.

>>57250289
it appears in a beta build of OSX

>>57236252
??? Latitude ???

>>57250289
found within the System/Library/PrivateFrameworks directory of macOS Sierra 10.12.1

>>57237204
Well currently Touch ID is powered by a custom ARM coprocessor, that provides a large array of trusted secure computing features to iOS devices. This is a feature Apple have obviously spent many years working on this, and it seems unlikely that they would have invested the same effort in doing so for the Mac. Instead opting to just bring the ARM based iOS solution to the Mac. Makes sense.

Looky -> https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf

>>57241443
Affinity Designer/Photo are great, aren't missing any features that I ever use and are faster than the Adobe CC counterparts

>>57236883
>space heater = computer
>>57236175
the Unix Way
>>57237730
both are macbook problems. also fixable. but whatever, hackintosh master race

>>57249864
how much was this in real money?

>>57238397
Ask yourself the question, what would hitting the escape key do when you are looking at a sheet with a cancel button? It would dismiss the sheet, One would assume hitting the 'Cancel' button on the "touch bar" would do the same.

Having a soft button in the same place as the esc key allows the OS to provide better context to the user. It seems obvious when I look at it, but everyone is freaking out.

What happens when you have two programs open at once? Say I'm in pages and have that as my focus but am also listening to music in iTunes do I have to move to iTunes to turn the volume down now?

>>57250631
There's a black button all the way to the left but its a bit hard to see.

I imagine that will cycle through inputs.

>>57239438
That is stunningly ugly.

>>57250556
in understand that in exactly that case scenario, having only the cancel option is the best approach possible

but that does not justify removing the ESC key

to make matters worse, all this stupid bar shit is like that just because they don't want to kill the ipad

this problem doesn't even exist on a tactile display

>>57250631
Most probably it'll be context sensitive so that if an application isn't taking full control of it, it'll just be the usual function key row. Only difference will be that the buttons won't be physical.

>context sensitive bar outside the display
>a 10 point tactile display
spot the innovation guys

>>57235362
They hired the one gay man on earth with no design sense whatsoever. And then they made him CEO

>>57235399
DIGITS
OF
TRUTH

>>57235535
My mid 2012 MBP would like to have a word with you.

>inb4 1366x768 maymay xDDDDD
>implying you need anything higher on a fucking laptop to write software on the go

>>57236252
Once my beast (mid 2012 MBP) finally dies in like five years or something, I'll have to see if the XPS line is still as good as it is now.

>>57251263
I know a few gay dudes who are way worse. Anyway, Cook is Aplel's Ballmer. He cares more about spreadsheets than product. Hopefully the board figures that out soon and dumps him and Ive for some fresh talent, because Dell and MS are shitting all over Apple's product design, and they need a wakeup call.

>>57251446
>if I type valid points with redditspeak it makes them go away

>>57251446
>getting blind after 2 hours of typing on 768p display
how about no

>>57237938
>If you aren't in SV you simply aren't a very good programmer.
Or we simply don't have family resources that can finance a move into one of the most expensive places to live in the United States.

>>57251818
If you're good SV companies will typically cover moving expenses.

>>57251859
And it's unthinkable that those companies recognize your talent, but simply don't need anyone right now?

>>57249864
How's the battery?

>>57237938
>forgetting that the most dominant company in tech is HQed in Seattle

>>57235362
Jobs deaded himself

>>57252096
Yes. The number of companies hiring in SV that will cover moving expenses for good talent is ridiculous. It's basically impossible to fill all the positions because the general programming community is far too incompetent.

>>57252293
Microsoft isn't the most dominant company in tech and nobody relevant has cared about them for years.

>>57252096
yes, absolutely unthinkable. if any tech company ever tells you that they're not hiring, they're either in a financial tailspin OR they didn't want you.

and at the scales of compensation that we're talking about (income of 6 figures, add 30% of that cost on the company's side because they're footing the bill for health care etc...) then paying $10k for moving expenses (and that's generous) is trivial.

>>57236859
Legit thought that was a safe or a locker from the thumbnail

>>57249537
nope, it's directly from apple out of the update

>>57252514
>he thinks Microsoft is HQed in Seattle
try using those big SV brains of yours for a femtosecond

>>57251263
this a million times

Apple fell for the /g/ meme...no serious, everything about their new Mac designs are trying to turn into a hipster facebook machine. I feel sorry for all the good engineers at Apple who have to see their work fall into this shitshow

>>57252693
Redmond whatever. Most people just refer to it as Seattle because nobody gives a shit.

Everyone that matters is doing the real work here in the bay area. Even Microsoft has moved their entire research division here.

>>57252723
>he still thinks I was talking about Microsoft
are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>57252736
I don't care who you were talking about.

>>57252778
you mean you can't figure it out. guess those SV big boy brains doing the big boy work aren't so shit-hot after all.

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>macbook air fails to start twice in as many days
>have to take it in to the """genius bar""" just so they can jigger the battery
I hate this

>>57237116
I was thinking the same thing. I use my laptop laying down like your pic as well and I can use the brightness/sound from touch memory. This is making me a bit concerned.

>>57237483
It's not going to send random amounts out of your account for no reason. Might as well get rid if your mouse in case you click it and spend $149 on dragon dildos.

>>57237483
what scenario are you imagining where this would happen? why $126? who would receive it?

>>57237677
>dubs of truth

>>57238314
there's a good reason my 2008 macbook aluminum unibody is still kicking while my roommate in college went through 2 thinkpads and my other room mate went through 1 thinkpad before he got a macbook back in 2011

>B-but it's not going to have a touchpad

/g/ is so fucking autistic sometimes, I swear

>meme for weeks it's going to look nothing like the concept art that was shown months ago
>say it's just apple delusion
>oh wait that's actually what happened
>"w-well it's ugly anyway!!"

kill yourselves

>>57235362
Ive's lost is touch, or Jobs was the only one there with enough authority to slap him around the head and tell him thats dumb/ugly looking.

Maybe he'd have been smart enough to realise Ive's thin fetish is detrimental to performance too.

Chromebooks are the best looking laptops in 2016
I like modern thinkpads but they are starting to look generic

>>57236883
Braun is the all time "aesthetic design leader"
I'd use a computer that looks like a braun coffeemaker

>>57255101
Honestly the best looking iPhone was the 4/4S
I love those angular edges and metal rim
Now iPhones just look generic

it's not ugly it's just completely underwhelming

>>57237188
It probably shows up in the touch strip for programs that need it

>>57255155
It looks fairly identicle to other laptops, it's style isn't unique anymore
At this point if anything it feels likes its copying Chromebook

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>>57255101
>Ive's lost is touch, or Jobs was the only one there with enough authority to slap him around the head and tell him thats dumb/ugly looking.

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>>57235362
I member

>>57237519
Why the fuck should anyone have to reflash the firmware just to change the brightness? Do you not realise how retarded you sound?

>>57235362
fake and gay

>>57235399
fpbp

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>>57255151
>Honestly the best looking iPhone was the 4/4S

You mean 5. The 4 looks tacky with that glass back.

>>57255418
>Tfw hands too big to comfortably use anything with less than a 5in screen

I'm stuck in the world of phablets for the rest of my life.

>>57235399
Thread

>>57255454
I have little Trump hands.

>>57255418
this design looks like shit now desu

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>>57255418
I've been loving my Iphone 5 for a long time but after seeing the xiaomi mix the massive bezels on my Iphone have been pissing me off.

>>57255484
Honestly I'd much rather have smaller hands. They constantly hurt when I use regular mice/keyboards. Considering I'm a programmer, it's a fucking hinderence.

The 6p can rest in my hand with the tops of my fingers still dangling over the top.

>>57255101
Ive moved back to London, he's not doing any design work

>>57255454
>>57255484
>>57255540
How do you even know if your hands are small or big?

>>57255524
Your iPhone has actually sucked and looked old as shit forever. Remember how long it took apple to move past shiny 3d square app icons?

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>>57238314
>(a 1070 would be sick, but they will probably use a 1050/1060)

>>57236859

Apple ripped that design off Acer, surprisingly.

>>57238568
There are a lot of people on /g/ who are too young to remember anything that actually happened and too lazy to go learn about it.

>>57255595
Get out a tape measure and compare to average.

>>57255604
I don't know always felt pretty comfy to me. You pretty much need to jail break you Iphone and change a shit ton of things for it to be as good as android though

>>57235362
Better question: how did they go from "just works" to bloated bug-filled dogshit? Apple is a fucking disgrace and that goddamn faggot Kook should just fucking kill himself along with all the moronic Apple fanboys and shills.

>>57237116
Your muscle memory should be able to guide your fingers to the right keys by now, even function keys

The only tactile feedback needed are these two little bumps on F and J for your index fingers

>>57237308
because it's KDE

They said the OLED touch bar will be used to display application-specific content, so obviously there will be some sort of API for application developers to print content to that bar

Using said API, it shouldn't be too difficult to program function keys back into it... including... THE ESCAPE KEY

Plus if this API is at firmware level like for other hardware components of previous macs (e.g. fan control through the SMC), it will be possible to support the touch bar in other operating systems.

>>57235362

Fucking MEME keyboard