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Data bit rot

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I experienced bit rot for the first time today. A once perfectly fine ripped video failed to play properly displayed blocks/corruption. (Lucky I restored the file from backup). This got me to thinking and from what all I read this bit rot scares me. Lots of cases the file is gradually rendered bad so backup tools are none the wiser as to the actual state of the file. Thus by the time said file is totally bad, the backup copy is bad to. So with all this in mind I've decided to build a FreeNas server in the hope of reducing data bit rot. As to when I'll actually build it I've no idea yet. It'll be a three staged approach.
1. Existing Server with upgraded storage - first line of defense/heavy usage
2. FreeNas Server - Backup for existing server's data. - 2nd line of defense
3. NAS unit - old server backup device - last line of defense/long term data archival.

Right now I'm pushing 8TB of data with maybe 150GB free so I'm gonna be spending quite a bit of money to upgrade existing server and build the second one.
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>>57222769
Filesystems such as btrfs and ZFS protect against bit rot.
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>>57222782
Yes I know, thus the reason I'm going with FreeNas. It supports ZFS. only drawback is it requires lots of memory but that's ok. I've got two DDr3 8GB modules and two 4GB modules laying around somewhere
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>>57222856
It's fairly adaptive on memory, that will work fine. The real killers are inline dedupe and compression.

If you've got the money, look into LTO6 tapes. They're big enough to do your backups and last ~30 years.
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>>57222769
Just use Hammer from Dragonfly BSD :^)
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>>57222877
Lol.
Tape is meme-tier
http://digitalcommons.lmu.edu/honors-grants-and-fellowships/1/
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>>57222769
Better have some ECC RAM if you're gonna go in this route.
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freenas is fucking garbage, just use an offline external hard drive or simply print out the binary data of the files onto paper

either way, making up some fucking stupid 'lol butt rot XD' story makes you look like a tool
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Couldn't you just put your critical data that don't change into a RAR archive with like a 10% recovery record and save that archive on external hdd? So if the archive itself was damaged the built in recovery record would be able to restore the files up to a point. Be cheaper I think. I did this back when CD's/DVD's were all the rage.
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>>57223853
>Free Nas is bad because I say so!
>*Shitposts*

Neck yourself
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>>57224605
Sure, but is that method lossy or lossless?
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How much memory would I need for 9x3TB RAIDZ2? I could currently cobble together like 24GB, should be sufficient, right? Is it even worth it without ECC and on consumer/desktop hardware?
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>>57224688
Are you doing de-dup or compression on the volumes?
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You might be able to run freenas in a virtual machine on your server. Add say two - three new hdds just for freenas use and go from there. I dunno just a thought. Never tried it to be honest. Can a freenas server be shutdown without data loss? As in say you use it as a strictly backup device nothing else. Turn it on, run your backup job, then shut down till the next time you run a backup. This way you'd save wear and tear on the hdds and save money on power bill to.
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In a perfect world I'd like to keep all my data files for at least till I was 100 yrs old all in perfect readable condition. Just think all my porn vids would be watchable when I'm old. I figure I'll live to be least 100 yrs old. After that, well I'll be dead so it wouldn't mater much.
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>>57224638
it is bad. fucking giant pain in the ass to setup and deal with, fucking terrible methods of data expansion. it just simply is not worth the fucking time, the file system is not going to fucking save you from drives failing. and its just as easy to lose a pool and your data with zfs as with normal raid and all that other shit

literally the tryhard setup with no real benefits
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you can use freenas, but patricians have switched to illumos/openIndiana. They have a web front end for their ZFS stuff, but you can run zones which are containers to run other applications. For example one zone is router/dhcp/dns, one for ZFS/samba/nfs sharing, another zone for whatever the fuck you decide you want.
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