Say no to Linux and Stay on Windows 7

>stay on 7
good luck with that

Because they want desktop threads to become popular. And let's face it, windows 7 sucks for ricing the shit out of your desktop.

got 7 for gaymen
arch all the way

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Memes aside I'm pretty happy with 10 desu

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>>57218707
No-One is a shill. You must think this is /pol/ - Politically incorrect.

Before you go calling everyone a shill, why don't you just attempt using the operating system?

It's not a server OS -- If this is the case, then Ubuntu, Fedora, or Linux Mint would not exist. If you want to get started, look at the /g/ wiki or the /fglt/.

Or if you want, you can stay on Windows 7 which will eventually die off. Plus a lot of people have hardware that cannot be upgraded and work great with GNU/Linux. I am one of those people. I own a Latitude D630 (which I'm posting from) which has a core2duo. Win7 runs like shit on it whereas MATE runs amazingly.

There aren't shills. There are people who like there operating system (or have fun with their computers and try out other OSes)

Ever heard of Tinycore or TempleOS?

But really stop calling GNU/Linux a goddamned server OS. You clearly have no idea how much effort goes into projects like Unity, Gnome, MATE, XFCE, etc.

Oh some more programs you have no respect for:
LXDE-Panel
Unity
GNOME
Caja
File-Roller
Wine
mpv
mplayer
xpad
xrandr
and redshift.

>>57218806
>No-One is a shill.

yeah ok sure

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>>57219180
>shillz!!!!
>can't refute any of my arguments
Okay

Even with its flaws, I prefer to use Linux for general purpose use than Windows. You can point to a useability flaw here or a security hole here but not even memeing I get along a lot better with Linux.

I'll use Windows if I'm doing work or gaming (and yes, I do work), but again, for general purpose use I absolutely love Linux. The fact that its infinitely customizable to suit your needs and machine is the best. Linux can breathe new life into even the oldest machine.

Linux is not shilled, it has an actually following here.

Window and MS products on the other hand are pushed by paid shills on 4chan, reddit, hackernews, and many other social media platforms.

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>>57218707
As a professional GNU/Linux shill, I get massive funding from the FSF.

many people gather here because this place was traditionaly a linux stronghold.

you - windows shills - are trying to lift that, and it is a bit fun to see how you noskills fail.

>>57219286
As i know /g/ was an apple stronghold.

>>57219368
yes, we even have steve jobs in the sticky

>>57219392
>implying it wasn't assburger irony

>>57218707

Specific distros are certainly shilled, but shilling for GNU/Linux in general? I don't think anyone on /g/ is that autistic about pushing free software.

>Arch
underage / hipster meme
>Gentoo
old meme
>any obscure commercial distro you never heard of
definitely a shill

>>57219437
>any obscure commercial distro you never heard of

>be in 2010
>buying mandriva, the best OS what human created
>naked Marie appeared in my basement ready for action

What is your excuse not buying the best distro?

>>57219511
I downloaded it.

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i will never upgrade

>7 for life

>>57218707
Why is this shitposting thread even still here?

>>57218707
I don't know who is shilling anymore, i guess we are in a abstract level of shilling where even saying somethig lke INSTALL GENTOO it's a subliminal way to shill, so people say.

The thing with Windows it's i'm not sure how such an annoying thing it's still the number one choice for almost all the office enviroments, done completely legally buying all the licenses and all that cal, It's really expensive and complicated.

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>>57218707
>Shilling
>Free software

>>57219875
Found the Red Hat shill

>>57219875
It's called communism anon

>>57218707
I'm really sorry but you seem to misunderstand that Linux in itself is a kernel and not an operating system that can be booted from a zip disquette.
What you are looking for, is the operating system, not the kernel.
This is generally referred to as the GNU system for most general purpose computers.
You are most likely referring to the combination of the GNU system with the Linux kernel. This is called the GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel.
If you want to try a flavor of the GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel, there are many different ones to choose from.
A very beginner friendly distribution of the GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel is the Ututo GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel.
Another great flavor is the Trisquel GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel.
Both of the ones mentioned above comply with the 4 essential software freedoms as proposed by the Free Software Foundation with Richard M. Stallman added as its president.
They only contain fully free licensed open source software that respects the user's freedom.
If you are interested in trying out some flavours of the GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel, feel free to download any of the distributions of the GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel mentioned on the website of the Free Software Foundation with Richard M. Stallman added as its president.
If you have any further questions about the GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel or fully free licensed open source software feel free to ask for help. The GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel community will gladly point any new user to the right direction.
Happy Hacking.

>>57219253
Do they pay you in free beer or free freedom?

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>>57219893

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>>57219918
But that's wrong anon.

>>57219893
But i kinda agree, in the beginings just there was a bunch of enthuasiast promoting linux, it was complicated and unreliable, it wasn't until an army of well meaning people improved that thing and the other and later the suits came, and made it corporate, and everyone knows that Microsoft it's not friendly with the competition, it is a neccesary evil. But i belive that shilling free software it's preposterous like this post and thread.

>>57218707
I N S T A L L
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>>57218707
Because Linux is the superior kernel. NT a shit. That's right, it's SHIT

>>57219191
Wasn't this logo conceived in a thread last month?

I've used Win7 up until very recently. Switched to a noob-friendly Linux and have not looked back since. Uses less resources, is very stable, has all the features I need, runs all the software I really use. Installed next to Win7 in like 5 minutes, can always go back when absolutely necessary.

>>57219927
Probably in WinRAR licenses

>>57219764
I hope you bought 5 flash drives to store windows 7 on for when the apocalypse comes

>>57218707
>replying to shit bait
Imagine having computers.
The computers has <2 GB of ram, and a shitty GPU/CPU combo.
Its enough to run XP for some web browsing etc, but:
>the system is lacking a modern browser
>it stopped receiving security patches
>probably is unsupported by any AV, or the AV is causing it to be really slow.
Your choices are:
>stay on XP, tell yourself you are ok
>install win7 which will probably run like shit on your hardware along with modern AV/browser combo, also lose support in a few years.
>install an obscure linux distro which will hopefully allow you to use the internet/do some casual shit, while having security updates and somewhat recent versions of programs.

and no , if you need to do "muh real work" on "muh photoshop" or want to play :muh games" you wont be using an old PC with XP for it.

I have two WinXP systems that will stay on XP forever. They are not connected to the internet. I have 3 Win7 systems that will stay on Win7 until at least 2020. I am very careful about what updates get installed on them. I have 2 centos servers with systemd excised, 2 older debian systems that never had systemd, and a slackware box for building certain packages. Also an arch box for playing around. My laptops run Mint and are only used for surfing and email. I will never run win8/8.1/10 or later. I will never run systemd.

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>>57219980
that does not agree with my definition of socialism pal.

>>57218806

Just off the top of my head:

1.- GNU/Linux lacks drivers for very common hardware. Some scanners aren't even supported, and definitely forget about pointers, minotaurs, most controllers, and most gaming mice. The only thing that is solid are the printers, but even in those cases the drivers seldom provide the capability to use the advanced functions such as checking your ink levels. All these things are very common desktop needs and Linux fails at meeting them.

2.- There is no viable word processor that's up to the standard of the industry. Of course you have OpenOffice and LibreOffice, and they can save in Microsoft Office format as well, but even when you save in compatibility format there are cases where it will show up wrong when read with Microsoft Office. This is a risk that anyone writing important documents can't afford, there is just no way you're gonna risk it. Word processing is a very basic need of desktops, and Linux fails at meeting it.

3.- Poor software support due to lack of market penetration and development fuck ups. Stuff like Autocad, Photoshop, After Effects, and the likes of it; there are 100 free alternatives and they all aren't as good as the proprietary version. The closest to become a viable alternative is probably GIMP, and even in that case, if you want to fully replace Photoshop you will end up using GIMP plus two other programs and a dozen of scripts, and that will allow you do the same work in like 20% more time. Then there is the case where the development of whatever interferes with third party software; for example, I can't use the proprietary drivers of my video card because they're not compatible with GNOME. I either have to give up on using one or the other, but at least I have another 10 options that I don't like; quantity over quality like all with free software.

>>57218806
>>57220749

>inb4 those are fault of poor market penetration, not GNU/Linux

Who gives a shit? I only care about how can I use it for desktop stuff, and you just can't unless your only activities are browsing and playing media.

>inb4 but my super computers and servers

You mean the computers that don't need to manage office hardware or support application software and nice peripherals? And that is somehow proof that the OS used in those computers is ideal to manage office hardware or support application software and nice peripherals? Yeah no. Linux is a server OS and every single try to make it a desktop OS has been an abortion, just face it.

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>>57218707
>Linux shills
Uhh, there's practically a telemarketing campaign for microsoft products and you're worrying about people recommending linux?

>>57219226
This.
Until recently I believed all these microsoft shills are just some troll wannabe /v/ kiddies but I was completely Wrong.


Microsoft has been deploying Evangelists to support developers[1] since a long time.

Although a leaked document explicitly mentions that they are not here to support developers, they are here to shill microsoft[2] and undermine [3] other companies.

These are not just trolls. These are professional shills.

Ditch Microsoft products


Don't be fooled my Microshills. They never cared for the users. Their latest strategy is to compete with google for mass surveillance with built in spyware. Data is the most valuable good in the next century and Microsoft is trying really hard to become the monarch.


[1] https://www.microsoft.com/northafrica/careers/positions/de.htm


[2]http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf (page 4,9)

[3]http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03096.pdf (page 5, 30, 35)

>>57220827

Because Windows does marketing but GNU/Linux does propaganda.

>>57218806
Except astroturfing is a real thing. Blame microsoft, thanks to their dishonest practices now is increasingly hard to believe any positive comment about their products, it's like the boy who screamed wolf.

http://www.stratigery.com/msft.shilling.html
http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html
http://furiousfanboys.com/2013/06/microsoft-caught-astroturfing-reddit-to-praise-xbox-one/
http://techrights.org/2007/11/23/astroturfing-microsoft-examples/

>>57220870
I know probably i'm gonna regret for asking but, what is your point exactly?

>>57220749
>1.- GNU/Linux lacks drivers for very common hardware. Some scanners aren't even supported, and definitely forget about pointers, minotaurs, most controllers, and most gaming mice. The only thing that is solid are the printers, but even in those cases the drivers seldom provide the capability to use the advanced functions such as checking your ink levels. All these things are very common desktop needs and Linux fails at meeting them.

This argument would have been good in 2010, at this moment only certain gaming hardware which requires user-space programs is a problem, previously AMD GPUs wa the most problematic common hardware but AMD is already getting their shit together so it's not a problem anymore.

>2.- There is no viable word processor that's up to the standard of the industry. Of course you have OpenOffice and LibreOffice, and they can save in Microsoft Office format as well, but even when you save in compatibility format there are cases where it will show up wrong when read with Microsoft Office. This is a risk that anyone writing important documents can't afford, there is just no way you're gonna risk it. Word processing is a very basic need of desktops, and Linux fails at meeting it.

That's the magic of closed technologies that becomes de facto standards. What we should do is to stop actively supporting monopolistic practices if all of us wants a future where we can have a choose regarding operative systems. After all one size don't fits everyone and competition is good for the users. If by any means your post is serious you're shooting yourself in the foot..

>>57220749
how common are common hardware? because i never had a printer/scanner not work with a default ubuntu install. and this includes an pretty old scanner that did not have drivers for any windows newer than ME.
If you want to talk controllers , i can tell you that with a simple (or not so simple if the controller is not "supported") script you can emulate an xbox360 pad with xboxdrv and play any controller supported games on steam.
Also i had several gaming mice and only one that didnt work out of the box was the sharkoon drakonia (which i use now) which needed a change of one specific usbhid parameter before kernel 3.14 from what i remember.

Peripherials aside from all the laptops i tried (not that many, one 10 year old now fujitsu siemens, 2 vaio laptops, at least 4-5 year old, one dell business laptop, an ivy bridge samsung ultrabook and my recent shitty acer laptop) only ones that had ANY problems with hardware drivers were vaio laptops because sony used their own hardware and did not care about linux support at all.

Also the thread is about people moving from XP to an more modern OS, so i dont think that spewing the usual "no enterprise-standard applications!" shit applies here. Also moving old school pcs that are not connected to internet to linux make no sense too, since everything werks unless someone comes with a virus-ridden flash drive from a local library or something.

>>57220749
>3.- Poor software support due to lack of market penetration and development fuck ups.
True to certain extent but you're exagerating IMO.

>Stuff like Autocad, Photoshop, After Effects, and the likes of it; there are 100 free alternatives and they all aren't as good as the proprietary version.
A lot of people needs windows-specific software for work, however the part about doing the same in 20% more time and not being as good is at best an opinion. Some examples of people working with software available on linux:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqumdhqy8Uw
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgugAj69xw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI
https://youtu.be/JmH4KYcmHOo
http://www.sylvia-ritter.com/new-gallery/

MS sure is desperate, huh.

>shills
>for a free operating system
I could understand calling out Redhat shills (if there were any), but this clearly isn't the case
Kill yourself nigger

>>57220749
>I can't use the proprietary drivers of my video card because they're not compatible with GNOME.
IF this happens to you it's a bug and should be reported instead of being used as an argument for deter people from using linux.

>I either have to give up on using one or the other, but at least I have another 10 options that I don't like; quantity over quality like all with free software.
Bad luck? Ok, you don't like and it's respectable it but other people may like.

I still don't understand why people keep spewing shit about software THEY DON'T EVEN USE not being supported

>m-muh autocad I've never opened in my life

>>57218707
Take some pasta too:

>No network drivers so need to use another computer to get the drivers.
>Update takes forever.
>Install the drivers from windows update.
>No sound.
>Search the driver from the manufacturer's site.
>Ok, no problem.
>Suspiciously high storage drive usage.
>Processes using high amount of resources for no reason.
>Forced updates, give up trying to customize it because the updates sets the defaults again.
>No more possibility to know what are the updates about.
>Error messages are not useful.
>Must uninstall crap often but gets installed again.
>Cannot disable cortana.
>Pretty obvious i don't control my OS.
>Read MS privacy statement.
>Fuck this shit.
>Install windows 7.
>No drivers, must hunt them this time.
>mfw i read that MS is issuing updates that backports W1's bullshit to windows 7.
>mfw i must use third party programs and be careful with the updates to protect myself from my own software provider.

>>57221067
>At some moment got interested into looking for other software providers.
>Don't want to buy hardware and hackingtosh seems a fucking hassle so don't care about apple for the moment.
>Download ubuntu mate installation media.
>Try to boot but get black screen.
>Literally first google result tells me how to start with nomodeset and how to install the proprietary nvidia drivers.
>Proceed to install.
>reboot.
>Start again with nomodeset.
>Update OS (extremely fast compared to windows) and install nvidia drivers from a GUI.
>reboot.
>mfw everything works, no need to search for drivers.
>discovers dolphin, youtube-dl, clementine, playonlinux, kdenlive, krita, etc.
>Comfy as fuck.
>Discover my previous MS office documents don't work fine always.
>Read about the problem and discovers MS issued an standard they don't respect and no one know how it got approved something like that.
>Around half of my steam games are not avilable on linux.
>Read about it and discover how closed technologies can work as lock-in mechanism.
>mfw going back to windows would be like begging to be mistreated.
>mfw i would be actively supporting to make worse this situation.
>nope
>Use my computer normally but try to save my documents in open formats when possible to avoid being locked out from them and try to reward those developers who uses a multi-platform approach.

>>57221067
*oops, i didn't copy the fisr line:
>Install windows 10

>>57220985

>This argument would have been good in 2010, at this moment only certain gaming hardware which requires user-space programs is a problem, previously AMD GPUs wa the most problematic common hardware but AMD is already getting their shit together so it's not a problem anymore.

Who said anything about video cards? Learn to read and then read it again. Then we can talk about my 6 gaming mice and 2 minotaurs than don't work beyond the most basic features.

>That's the magic of closed technologies that becomes de facto standards. What we should do is to stop actively supporting monopolistic practices if all of us wants a future where we can have a choose regarding operative systems. After all one size don't fits everyone and competition is good for the users. If by any means your post is serious you're shooting yourself in the foot..

BRB, telling all the corporations in the world to change the business practices so GNU/Linux becomes a viable desktop OS and your argument is valid.

>>57221051

>IF this happens to you it's a bug and should be reported instead of being used as an argument for deter people from using linux.

No, it's not a bug.

https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary

>This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop, as it does not support the EGL interface. It is recommended to use the free radeon driver instead.

Just face that GNU/Linux isn't a desktop OS.

>>57221077
>>57221067
this pasta is pretty accurate if it was about windows 7. I have to admit that windows 8.1/10 usually worked well after install, except that one time i had to reinstall windows 8.1 three times because it automatically installed an radeon hd 7770 driver that hanged the PC after boot, even in safe mode. But thats a 3rd party gpu driver so i can be forgiving about it.

But the "windows updates take a long time and need several reboots in 2016" part cannot be demonized enough. Especially after i fresh installed windows 8 on my laptop and had to install 280+ updates to windows8 in order to upgrade to windows 8.1 , and then install 100+ upgrades to windows 8.1.
(also the updates were not boundled together so i had to reboot every 10-80 updates)

>>57218707
Linux has always been shilling everywhere. It's annoying.
Where is the use?

>>57219406
ur an asperger

>>57218707
I'm staying on xp sp3 on my second PC mainly because upgrading would make half my hardware unuseable

how ever the activation severs are now off the only way to get activated is via phone and even then it looks like that is going away too

I forgot to write down the confirmation code lol

>>57221209
what if i told you, that you dont have to install gpu drivers from the repo on debian? So you could for example install a newer version that supports gnome. Just like i always install newest version of nvidia drivers from site on my jessie install.

>>57221277
Thanks doc.
>vigil dose intensifies

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>>57219965
>Kernel 3.16.0-4

>don't you SHEEPLE see!
>these SHILLS are trying to trick you into using free (as in freedom) software as part of their SICK TWISTED plan to make you independent!!

>>57220737
Pretty terrible infographic. Still find it silly that people rely more on these than actual essays/books with cited sources.

Really though everyone is so god damn dumb it doesn't matter

W10 is pretty great if you're smart and patient enough to disable the botnet bloatware

>>57220500
On what earth would be FSF paying in nonfree software licences?

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>shilling gnu+linux
>on the stallman board.

>>57221470
not him but its actually 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19). I know its old but don't think that its not patched.

>>57221209
>Who said anything about video cards? Learn to read and then read it again.
No need to be so defensive and in any case you're the one who should learn to read, i'm just telling my experience about the topic you raised:
>GNU/Linux lacks drivers for very common hardware.
This has not been the case for me at least except the cases i stated.

>BRB, telling all the corporations in the world to change the business practices so GNU/Linux becomes a viable desktop OS and your argument is valid.
Again, you're the one who should learn to read because you're twisting what i said. My argument is valid because, as you said, if "all the corporations in the world to change the business practices" linux will "become a viable desktop OS" at least in the cases that matters those corporations. I was telling what we should do if we want a change, not what will happen, i don't have a crystal ball. Now ask yourself this question: in what way are you benefited by supporting a lock-in and reducing your own options? I'm not telling you to stop using microsoft formats or microsoft programs, however it's clear the more you save your documents on that formats the more dependant on MSO you become, because you stated that there's problems with compatibility on other programs that means you know what i'm saying is true.

What i do in the following order of priorities:
>For documents i want to be the owner always i save them on a well documented standard format: ODF.
>If i need to share one of those documents i use PDF.
>If i need to collaborate on a document i use google docs or another cloud solution.
>In the case i receive an MSO document i cannot open correctly with LO or a cloud solution, or i need to give it on a microsoft format, i use MSO on wine.

IMO at this moment it's not hard to work using software available for linux unless your work requires specifically microsoft formats for everything.

>Why is healthy food constantly shilled by healthy people? Who else /eatingsolidgrease/ here?

>>57218806
GNOME is good, but it is unnecesarily CPU heavy. Shit is heavier than using Windows 7.

>>57218806
>this isn't /pol/
Mate every board is /pol/ now that's how bad everything is

>>57221209
>https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
So you was referring to this, well, my argument is still correct because FGLRX is deprecated so this problem only affects distros with old components, the problem you're pointing to is no more.

For workstations the recommended driver is AMD GPU-PRO or the mesa driver, both being worked on by AMD, GPU-PRO is an open source kernel module with the opengl and vulkan implementations on the user space, finishing finally with the problem of AMD not supporting recent kernels on their proprietary driver.

Mesa recently got opengl 4.5 and it's shaping very well, it even received an initial vulkan implementation, so even AMD GPU-PRO will probably not be necessary in the future for games, making AMD the best option for those who want an open source driver that works ootb with good performance.

>Just face that GNU/Linux isn't a desktop OS.
Please tell me why you have so strong feelings against linux, i mean, in what way knowing you have more viable options hurts you?

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>>57218707
>this thread
>assmad linux virgins sperging about their so-called superiority
>Windows Master Race wins again

>>57222065
>muh /pol/
stop blaming /pol/ for everything you fucking retard, this board has been political since eons ago. hell, look at the pic in the sticky.

>>57222131
>A1: If someone rapes my wife is terrible and i'll never forgive her but if she cheats on me is not that bad and i can forgive that, all woman are the same after all!, you must be a kissless virgin if you seriously think there's woman out there that doesn't do it.
>A2: I have a girlfriend who is nice and doesn't have a record on cheating.
>A1: That ugly girl you have doesn't counts as a girlfriend, she's ugly as fuck and doesn't even wears make up.
>A2: That's your opinion man, also it's not true that she doesn't wears make up, here's a photo.
>A1: I-i don't like how she wears it!, it's practically the same as not wearing any!. Enjoy your ugly pig, cuck.

t. every wincuck in every thread.

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>>57220737
>billions of people who have practiced socialism through history are wrong
>me and a group of chronically unemployed losers on the Internet are right

>>57222197
Typical Wincuck:
1. Has an actual social life
2. Is productive
3. Employed and well paid

Typical Lincuck:
1. Neckbeard with terminal autism
2. No social life, can afford to waste 18 hours every day to polish it's hobby OS
3. NEET. On suicide watch. With no future.

>>57222254
Windows is like a plastic butter knife and Linux is like steel kitchen knife. With windows kids feel always safe to use and have fun with it playing to be chefs, doing things like cutting tomatoes or maybe onions, even if they do it in a slow or clumsy way, but meanwhile they feel happy and satisfied with themselves. Then when they see you cooking with the steel knife they starts wondering how it feels, then they starts whining that they want to cook like you and want to use the steel knife instead the small plastic one. You say that you cannot do that because you're busy but you'll teach him later. The kid gets angry and start whining more that he want the knife now and don't want the plastic one anymore, you tell him that to use the knife he must practice and be patient, meanwhile he should start with a smaller one. The kid gets more angry and tell you that he don't need your ugly and stupid knife because the yellow plastic one is more cool, and more safe, and he can do the same things, and that this one is not allowed for adults to use. Then you laugh in a light way like thinking 'that's cute' and you just say ok.

>>57222377
Later in the night when you're sleeping, the kid takes the steel knife and starts playing with it. He feels very exited, this one is heavier, shiny, it cuts things very easily, now he feels like a professional. Then he try to cut harder things, or trying to cut the vegetables in small cubes. During his play he mistakenly cuts his finger and starts crying very loud. You wake up and hurry up to see whats happening and you cure his finger with a bandage and cleaning the injure. The kid starts blaming you saying that this is because you didn't lend him the knife when he asked, that you never have time for him, that your shitty knife is dangerous and you're a retard for using it, that he didn't need anyway, that was your fault for always treating him like a kid. The only thing you do then is hug him and say, 'ok but promise me that you'll not try to use the knife again until being more grown', the kid just nods with his head while a tear walks over his face.

>>57218707
No one is shilling. The reason people are told to switch to Linux is that it will continue to be supported for years to come whereas Windows 7 will not be supported after 2020. Not to mention Linux will support all future processors, Intel and AMD have agreed to stop writing drivers for anything before W10.

And before anyone asks: yes, you have to have a driver for your processor. W7 may support future processors to an extent but absolutely will not support their new features.

>>57218707
Good job, Pajeet, another poo in the loo for you!

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>watching Linplebs and Winjeets argue from the glorious ivory tower of Macintosh

>>57222393
A more apt metaphor is the kid buys the steel knife and can't figure out how to take it out of the package because there are special tricks to open the packaging that are non-obvious to anyone who hasn't opened this specific brand of packaging before. If he makes it through the massive hassle of opening the package and getting the knife out, eventually in the middle of the night the steel knife comes alive and slits his throat by it's own power.

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>>57218707
Win7 Master Race

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>>57218707
>Stay on windows 7
Have fun being strong-armed by micropajeet to use windows 10 only CPU, wincuckold

>>57222705
Inte's next gen CPUs already run fine on Windows 7. There were leaked screenshots.

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>>57222723
>leaked screenshots.
Enjoy your half assed borked CPU performance regressions, literal cuck

>>57222767
NIce try pajeet, but that's not how it works.

>>57222780
Any new features added to processors in the future will not be supported in Windows 7. This includes things like hardware h.265 decode.

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>>57222780
That's exactly how it works. Because windows is an OS for submissive cucks.

>New OS is shit?
>Are you not going to use it?
>Let me put hardware restriction on you and remind you of our place

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Why is Microshit shilled so hard?

>>57222818
You can already run x265 1080p30fps on a system with a Core2Duo and a GTX 9800. Be serious.

>>57222886
The hardware decode is to offload 4K, not 1080p.
That's one of many things that won't be supported. The newer processors are introducing different ways of frequency scaling that in some cases can flat out break W7.

>>57222918
>can flat out break W7
I doubt, but we'll see.

>>57222951
>I just got owned: the post

>>57222956
Hardly. There's no reason why Intel's next gen CPUs won't work on 7. Your only argument is "Microsoft said so".

>>57222965
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/windows-7-wont-work-intels-current-next-gen-cpus/

>>57222593
>eventually in the middle of the night the steel knife comes alive and slits his throat by it's own power.
This doesn't describe windows 10 tho?

>>57218806
certainly there're no linux shills since nobody would pay you to shill for linux anyway, but it's a widely documented fact that there're shills (for other reasons) here on 4chan right now.

>>57223062
>Pajeet. The site.
Thanks for proving I'm right.

>>57223173
Did you read it though?

>>57218707
>Why is Linux constantly shilled here

It's free, secure and efficient. Knowing that you can trust your computer completely because you're the master of the software on it, not some corporation is a nice feeling.

>>57220749
>most controllers
>most gaming mice
I'm pretty sure any controller worth having has linux drivers. You don't need any drivers besides basic for mice.

>>57222965
I hope you're right because microsoft seems pretty impatient to get more people on W10 and that guys can just give money to hardware manufacturers for anything (remember the secure boot thing), on my side i'm already dual booting, windows 7 for games and linux for everything else and trying to buy linux supported games when possible to stop supporting all this bullshit.

>>57221545
Nice try

>>57224907
He's right tho, explain why he's wrong.

>>57225161
Linux is only worthwhile if your time is worthless

>>57218707
Linux isn't bad, but it's marketing is one of the worst.

>>57218707
You have it wrong, fuckhead. Microsoft is shilling Windows because they realize they fucked up with Windows 8/10.

Linux is good and I have it on my laptop, but I am 100 percent the master of my windows 7 desktop and have been the master of every other windows computer I've owned dating back to 1993

I'm the boss

Windows 8 and 10 are shit, I will go full linux when the time comes

if I was a hardcore gamer I'd probably stay with Windows. Linux people pretending it's a good platform for video games are doing everyone a disservice, it's not

not because it sucks, but because game developers don't develop games for it

yet

>>57225915
10 is popular as fuck now

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I like Windows 7, but come on now you're being delusional
>Linux shills
>Shilling
>For a complete free OS
>In which there's no party who would get a monetary gain
>Pic very much related

>>57225936
And it's stagnating. I work for an OEM reseller that sells to small businesses, and for every new machine with Windows 10 that we sell we sell a dozen with Windows 7, or more.

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>>57225930
>not because it sucks, but because game developers don't develop games for it

That was true like 5 years ago.

>>57225690
Why some people try to parrot this mindlessly? what is the benefit on trying to deter people from trying linux? In what way having more options hurts you?
Just see >>57221022

>>57226351
Is not listed as a linux game but you can install it and works fine on linux, try Faeria. It's free to play and it's my favorite game lately. I always wanted a MTG/Yu-Gi-Oh/Hearthstone-like game on linux.

>>57220749
>Some scanners aren't even supported, and definitely forget about pointers, minotaurs, most controllers, and most gaming mice. The only thing that is solid are the printers, but even in those cases the drivers seldom provide the capability to use the advanced functions such as checking your ink levels.
Make a bug report, send an email, send a Tweet, whatever.

Windows does compatibility checks automatically, so it's easy to say Linux lacks full driver support. :^)

>>57218806
I would like to point out that CTR does exist and has mentioned 4chan

>>57225967
They don't lose anything if linux gets more marketshare because windows is practically a monopoly, there's no way to not get support from developers even if linux gets, let's say, 10%.

If linux gets at least this percentage that will make very hard for developers to ignore the platform and windows-specific tools will not be so attractive.

So linux users can win a lot from linux getting more marketshare but windows users have their support secured, therefore i fail to see how actively supporting a lock-in and anti-competitive practices benefits them assuming they're not being paid.

Really makes you think.

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>>57218707
I actually just installed Windows Server Standard 2008 R2 SP1 because of dumb Optimus dual GPU bullshit. Can't even disable it in the bios anymore (Thinkpad W540)... :(

Oh well, better than cancerous w10, w8, and w7. Shit is blazing fast and I can play all my games with no botnet.

Updates disabled for good!

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>>57218806
>le GANOO slash Linux
Thank you for spreading the CORRECT pronunciation, good sir. The free (as in FREEDOM) foundation approves. Carry on xD
*tips trilby*

>>57222767
>>57218730
>>57218798
>>57220749
>>57222254

How do you get a job shilling for a meme OS like Windows 10 on /g/?

>>57222879
Too much money, we should do the same and hire people to shill Linux based on donations.

>>57223431
You will have to pay for windows 10 soon, install now and we will send a windows 10 dev to suck your dick.

>>57225936
Nobody likes it though, forced restarts and shit.

>>57227117
> Too much money, we should do the same and hire people to shill Linux based on donations.
Why? Do you want all the people easily influence-able by advertising and astroturfing and shit to end up on Linux?

Easily influenceable people may be good to get you to pay money, but making idiots pay is not what Linux is about. And there is essentially no other reason to want these people, is there?

Not that I'm against offering them the same access as everyone else, but spending money on getting them and then spending money and effort to keep them is insane.

>>57219764
I had a fresh install of 7 and sp1 before ever connecting to the internet i disabled that very same service and even deleted he executable wuctl or whatever it was. Eventually a windows10 install folder showed up the entire thing had been downloaded in the background and the bootloader had been switched from The NT one to the new one.

Shills will defend this

>>57227307
>Not locking the bootloader
>Not blocking msoft domains at the router
>Not using deep package inspection to block large volume TCP streams
>Not deactivating PROTOCOL 9 for all of the fusion cores
>Not placing the device in a Faraday cage
>Not checking the perimeter for any vans or suspicious equipment
>Not performing the installation in a vacuum sealed chamber in an unmarked barge sailing in the Bermuda triangle
You were basically asking for it

>>57227117

>Lincucks have no clue about jobs

Color me surprised.

>>57227448
Maybe for some jobs using the huge IT cost factor and security / business risk that is Windows must be taken...?

Nobody says that Linux is perfect, but it and BSD and even OSX are the lesser evils at this point.

With Windows you now loose control over your computers to an entity that has neither concern for your business to operate smoothly nor is it cooperating with you in any way (unless you're huge enough to have enough leverage to directly negotiate with them). And they have some financial incentives to fuck you in various ways.

>>57227568
PS: Just imagine if industrial hardware was managed by Microsoft.
> Hey, we are here to make your printing press consume more ink. Nope, you can't stall this upgrade, we WILL install it now - mandatory part of the deal with our 2015+ printing presses!
> Hey, the printing press is 15 years old now, we will no longer provide any services or spare parts and we will also not allow anyone else to do it 'cause copyrights and patents. Buy a new one!
> Hey, the next 30 days we will have a salesperson bother all of your staff about our new products. That's okay, right?
> Hey, you will have to set aside some space in your house and a parking spot, we're gonna distribute some of our ink from here.
> Hey, sorry for your complete interruption of operations for two weeks. Entirely our fault, but we had to make that store and UI thing work for ourselves. Sure, it's absolute nonsense for a printing press, but there is some strategy on our end which requires it to be unified with the Xbox store to sell apps and games on it. However, we will award the maximum contractual compensation! Here's your $5. Good luck.

>>57218707
XP was invented in 1900 right

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>>57218707

Windows 7 has got everything - it looks pretty, got muh start button, big icons at the bottom, no stupid cocksucking touchscreen faggotry, and it runs everything because windows. What else could you want?

>>57227448
>it's another "only shitty IT, cubicle slave, and codemonkey jobs exist" episode

color me surprised, the peon knows not what lays beyond those beige walls

t. literally your manager

>>57227117
>Nobody likes it though

Even people on /g/ like Windows 10 now. It's probably the most popular OS on /g/

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>>57227412

>faraday cage

>implying even if your computer was in non-euclidean space surrounded by black holes, Microsoft wouldn't install windows 10 on it using quantum entanglement

>>57220749
>drivers for printers and scanners
Use your phone
>libre office shows up wrong
Bring a portable version of the software on a zip disk

>>57218806
It's /g. Alll the Linux fags call windows users shills or blame it on the jews. Doesn't take much of an OS to point your browser to /g. They don't have a life like Windows users. Arch fags are the worst.

>>57218707

#win7mr

>>57228234
>/g
newfriend pls go

>>57222824

>using intel shit
>not AMDMR

I tried getting into Windows but got used to the power and options Lunix gave me so ditched it. It's a good OS for less technically apt people tho

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>He doesnt dualboot Arch and win7

>>57218707
Enjoy no updates and a fucking billion ransomware faggot.

>>57218707
How does it feel to know that most systems that run Windows XP do not have the hardware capabilities to upgrade to Windows 7?

Furthermore, how does it make you feel that so many distros better than Windows 7?

>inb4 i'm no cuck
>inb4 linoox
>inb4 linus torvalds, richard stallman, fsf btfo

>>57218707
>Linux
>Shills
>Shilling free stuff
LOLWUT

>>57220749

It's funny, I hear this about BSD all the time from the very same people you are trying to troll. The thing is I only care if OpenBSD or FreeBSD runs on my hardware, and not hardware that I don't own, and I've never had a single problem here. It's the same with Linux, I don't give a fuck about hardware I don't own.

And I used Open Office on Windows long before I ever dove into *Nix. I don't give a fuck what white collar faggots consider an industry standard. Open Office, and now Libre Office do the exact same thing as MS Office, except for free.

>>57229355
>so many distros better than Windows 7?

you can't even name a few

>>57229637
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you were mentally handicapped and were unable to use a search engine.

>>57229812
>I have nothing

thought so

>>57229812
> I will spruik alternatives
> but not actually mention the alternatives

No anon, you are the cancer.

>>57220749
>most controllers
It has better controller support than Windows. The Linux kernel itself supports all the Sony and Nintendo controllers. On Windows you have to do an unbelieveable amount of fuckery. For the Wii U Pro controller specifically you need the Toshiba bluetooth stack, and either a compatible dongle, or to add your HID for your dongle to the driver compat list, which then requires you to be in Windows Testing Mode to use it, and this only works for 30 days. It's a fucking joke. On the Sony side you have to use stuff like DS4Windows and still the solutions for these controllers is often to just make them detect as 360 controllers, losing a lot of their features and switching around button functions. I can use my Wii U Pro controller with all the buttons in the right place and everything working on GNU/Linux.

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>mfw wintoddlers and linuxbabbies and OSXFags who do nothing related to programming constantly battle and bicker about which OS is superior, screaming about how "comfy" and therefore "superior" their OS of choice is
Give me a break. When's the last time you dumb faggots actually even USED an office suite program to accomplish something important for either your own personal benefit or for your job? Fizzbuzzers, unemployed hasklelers and lispweenies, webshits, and /v/ermin crossboarding gaymers need not apply.

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>>57218707
>Linux constantly shilled
>Who else /stayingon7/ here?

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>>57218707
Windows 8.1 masterrace

>>57220749
>1
most scanners are supported, pretty well even, surprisingly enough
dunno what a minotaur is
nearly all controllers are supported (including out of box support for PS3 controllers with tilt and pressure sensitivity support, and easily installed Xbox controller support, and the vast majority of random USB directinput controllers just work)
and shit, printing kind of sucks on Linux -- you can print from just about anything you plug into the machine, but it'll use shit settings and it'll suck ink because even if you change the print quality, it'll often not actually do shit differently

>2
this one is pretty much deliberate by MS, and has been so since long before LibreOffice, OpenOffice, or even back when it was Sun's StarOffice -- if you never needed to save in MS formats, it'd be a perfectly usable suite
MS has always ensured that the competition cannot compete in this regard because of interoperability, even ignoring FOSS shit. MS Office hasn't ever been the best, just the most well known and widely marketed.

that being said, LO really could improve support
for really basic documents, sure, you can constantly save as .doc or .ppt or whatever
but anything remotely complicated (like adding captions to pictures in a document) breaks, and breaks badly -- LO should actually warn the user about shit that isn't going to work

>3
true
really, there's no way to argue this one

linux doesn't have major software packages because the linux desktop market is tiny
the linux market is tiny because you don't have those software packages
a lot of it is also explainable to the fact that people will just use what comes with the machine

also, even though I use GIMP nearly daily, it still sucks and I only use it over PS now because I've put enough time in it that I'm faster with GIMP now

>>57229970
of all the things, I'm still really pissed at how shit the Windows bluetooth stack is
it's probably the worst thing I've encountered

it's easily the worst in the industry

Switching is retarded. Run many OS at once using VMs and use all the applications you want. Linux makes an outstanding host for VMs.

I run XP, 7 and 10 on VMs using a Xubuntu host and it's extremely convenient. I also boot live .iso images for testing since I use live WinPE/DaRT/Linux USB/CD/DVD for diagnosis and repair of a variety of PCs.

Any choice which limits your other choices is usually silly. Learn virtual machines you faggots. Virtualbox is easy as fuck to begin with.

>>57230527
Get out, gook

>>57231391
no

>>57223311
>loonipsfag tells people what they need and what they dont need
That's why meme os on desktops will go on eating shit for decades, while win10 normies will enjoy every piece of hardware in their posession.

>>57228234
>Alll the Linux fags call windows users shills or blame it on the jews.

Yea, well it's not like they are representative of the Linux community. They are loud, opinionated, and annoying. The Linux community would be better off without this sort. You do realize that they are mostly ex-Windows gaymers (you know the type that buys Alienware and can't be bothered to learn much about their systems beyond installing games, so not all gamers, just the retarded ones), who've jumped on a Linux bandwagon in the last few years. Prior to that they were the ones talking shit about Linux.

I find it hard to buy that there's anyone out there who uses Windows, that actually thinks it's good. I never did. I'd never actually met anyone who sung praises about Windows until maybe the last couple years, and mainly here in retard central. People put up with it, but don't like it.

I was a PC gamer myself, so I used it out of "necessity". Other gamers I knew did too. I eventually lost interest in gaming, and I'd always been interested in computers beyond just fucking around, so I always found Linux appealing to play around with. Once I quit gaming, there was no point in not going to Linux full time, and I haven't looked back...

Oh wait, yes I have. I'm the "computer genius" of my family, which means I'm the guy who's bright enough to scan for malware, and automatically remove it, and I can use Google, and can look up how to manually remove shit, if needed. So I'm the guy who gets to work on my friends and relatives shit-boxes in my spare time.

Since I moved to Linux (and the BSDs), and have gotten used to them, going back and fucking with Windows at all is just fucking painful. I hate every minute of it, and find it mind blowing that anyone, puts up with that shit--even more mind blowing is that I too put up with it for years. If my job required me to use Windows (it doesn't. I'm a machinist, and our CNC mill is Linux based) I would, but other than that, fuck Windows.

>>57219923

Kek.

Linux is based on Unix, an operating system that was designed to solve problems in a very flexible and robust way. Windows on the other hand was designed with the intention to sell stuff.

If you are a person that works in tech, you either pick Linux or you're a dumb noob who doesn't really know his job well.

>>57233822
Linux-devs can't use it or make it work. What chance do we have?

>>57222254

Typical Wincuck:
1. Has a social life (online)
2. Is productive (really good at mining points on WoW or LoL or something)
3. Employed and well paid (as his mom's tech support)

It's like I'm back in high-school

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>>57222634

>Licensed to:
>not Owned by:

Cuck.

>>57220298
yes.

>>57222634
>yuliya

CHEEKI BREEKI