What went wrong?

>>57188389
>tfw i read "Start" in my native language

>>57188672
Are you German and you read it 'shtart'?

>>57188689
no, its spelling is completely different in my language.

>>57188907
What language do you speak then? Sorry for offtopic, but I'm a language sperg.

What went wrong was that Microsoft rested way too much on its laurels (laziness and complacency from its monopoly) while Apple and Google changed the game completely.

By the time Microsoft realized it had fucked up, it was way too late. The past six years of Windows can be summed up as Microsoft scrambling (and failing) to catch up with everything that has changed since the pre-iPhone days of Vista and Windows Mobile and Windows XP Tablet PC Edition.

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>press start
>to shut computer down

>>57189130
But Start menu was good

>>57189172
You're Starting the shutdown procedure.

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>>57188389
Pic related went wrong.

>>57188389
>we need to add new "features" if we want to sell a new version every couple of years

>They don't use reactos in 2016
are you cucks even trying?

>>57188943
Пycк

>>57191609
пидop

>>57189130
Yeah, but it doesn't matter because Windows still has, and always will have, total dominance of the PC market.

>>57191546
is this what happens when you fire all the competent developers and hire street-shitters to develop your OS?

>>57191728
It's what happens when you fire all the competent devs and hire shitty mobile devs

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>>57189172
>parking on a driveway
>driving on a parkway

>>57191546
>all this sensory overload from a machine that should do nothing unless you tell it to
>finally when looking at this I understand why people want driverless cars

Am I out of touch, or is it the normies who are wrong?

>>57188389
What was ever right?

My family were all Windows as far as I can remember. Win95, 98, 2000 XP etc. But from what I can tell reading about PC history, Mac's were ahead of the curve in most ways during early Windows.

>>57191792
>Win95, 98, 2000 XP etc. But from what I can tell reading about PC history
>having to read about these systems instead of using them

wut

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>>57191792
>talking about Mac when discussion early MS

Barking up the wrong tree. Look at what happened to this beautiful man, and the way IBM fucked him over for MS.

>tfw no CP/M dominant reality

>>57191821
I'm 25, of course I did use those OS's I mentioned. However, I did not use the early macOS releases and from what I can tell having sucked up bits of PC and Mac history Apple were technically ahead of the game in terms of graphics etc. back but Microsoft still won the war.

>>57191833
Have no idea who that is, gonna google him though. Mind giving a sentence or two about why he's famous? :)

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>>57191792
For the first ten years of its history, Windows was more or less a joke.

Windows 95 was when Microsoft finally caught up to (and even surpassed) the Mac, at the lowest point in Apple's history.

Ten years after that, Mac OS X had matured into a first-rate software platform while Microsoft desperately tried to catch up again with Longhorn, which was eventually scrapped so that they could ship Vista.

>>57191609
cyka

>>57191833
Bill Gates's mother personally knew IBM's chairman in 1980 via the United Way board of directors. That's how Microsoft got the deal for the IBM PC.

>>57191962
His name is Gary Kildall

>Created an OS called CP/M
>Was basically the DOS/Windows of it's day
>Known to hate litigation and general legal fuckery
>Original IBM PC was planned to use CPM
>Ended up contracting Microsoft for a literal knockoff (which they bought from elsewhere and modified for the PC) after they wouldn't agree to really shitty deal
>Due to Kildall's dislike of legal fuckery let Microsoft knock off their #1 product and steal their market by riding on the coattails of IBM
>Eventually created a competitor to Windows when it was a DE on top of DOS, called GEM
>Microsoft, not liking competition, made it so that GEM would crash on a regular basis
>All kinds of fuckery with other products from Kildall's company

>>57191984
Ah, that's how it happened. Got it.

>>57192083
Jeez, MS wasn't afraid of playing dirty back then.

>>57192240
They never have been.

Look at Embrace, Extend, Extiguish and see why people are concerned about MS getting involved with Linux.

>>57191792
C#
F#
The .NET framework
Office Suite

>>57192335
I know about all of that. They seem to be way more constrained nowadays with the EU watching them and having Apple and Google on their heels.

Their semi-forced update to Windows 10 was pretty crazy though, that definitely seemed calculated.

>>57191546
It was fine until the Anniversary update t b h.

>>57192083
You forgot the part where it drove him to alcoholism and he died from it in his early 50s.

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>>57188389
>What went wrong?
autism

>>57192958
What's the deal with Anniversary update?

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>>57191546

Microsoft has been into this kind of desktop-Web convergence since IE had to actually compete with Netscape back in the 90s. Vista Gadgets and later Metro Apps are the realized end result of what they wanted to do with Active Desktop and IE4 aka remove the browser entirely in favor of channels/portals to the Web.

>>57191609
kyrwa

>>57188389
Material Design went wrong. I miss the boxy gray rectangular interface, it felt comfy along with the scratchy spinning of drive platters whenever you opened up the explorer

>>57195514
>Windows
>Material Design

>>57191984
Vista is longhorn...

>>57191671
>Yeah, but it doesn't matter because Windows still has, and always will have, total dominance of the PC market.

exactly, which is why windows is going to be shit forever.

>>57195730
It's a symptom of the same problem - flashy colors, low information density, low differentiation between elements, low conveyance.

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>>57191671
TOP KEK

>>57192958
the anniversary update fucked all my shit up, i put up with the bugginess for a week then had to roll back

i'm just waiting to turn my pc on one day and find out it updated again without my knowledge or consent lol

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>>57195730
thats the point anon...

>>57194484
Anniversary update made things even worse.
I guess that's what happens when you hire pajeets

>>57191546
>not debloating your wangblows

>>57194656
Oh.
Still I kinda miss setting a web-page as a background.

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>>57188389
nothing

>>57192083
I remember hearing about that in class. Gates got something like 100 grand from IBM to come up with an OS, so he went and bought DOS from a guy for 25 grand, modified it a bit and called it MSDOS

>>57200446
Noice

>>57200446
What distro is it?

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>>57191833
>CP/M dominant reality
CP/M was an attempt to shoehorn an OS in to a tiny limited-resource chip like the 8080 (it literally stands for Control Program for Microcomputers).

While the stuff it stripped out was necessary for performance reasons, the result was its derivatives DOS and Windows lacked a proper user and file permissions system (until way too late), and didn't have proper address-space randomization which is why Windows 95/8 were so goddamned easy to exploit. Not to mention random shit like fucking drive lettering and separating the file name from the extension. There is no reason CP/M should ever have been adapted to anything more complicated than a 16-bit microcomputer.

>>57188389
>tfw 18 and didn't experience Windows glorious past.

I started using Windows from version 8.1 and thought it was pretty cool and I quite like Windows 10, but I totally see myself in 15 years bitching about how things were "better in my time" like an old bitter dinosaur while Microsoft tailors their OS to the ever changing tastes of newer generations.

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>>57200592
Windows 7

>>57200680
you'll definitely be doing that because windows is in a downward spiral and won't improve unless a competitor magically appears out of thin air

>>57200680
>glorious past
Eh, you didn't miss much.
The only real difference is back then you got bot-netted by criminals, but now it just comes built in.

>>57200731
kek'd anon

>>57191833
>tfw no CP/M dominant reality
But we do have a CP/M dominant reality; Windows is still beholden to DOS design decisions, and DOS was beholden to CP/M design decisions.

It still baffles me to remember they stripped the start button. Is it because there's mobile phone addicted non-tech marketing women in charge of product design? I'd like to think tech generally is going towards shit because of that.

>>57200688
>>57200446
That's adorable. It's so comfy.

>>57200962
No, it's because they thought it was necessary to have the exact same interface on tablets and PCs.

>>57200777
>tfw NT could go out from DOS heritage

>>57188389
Pajeet CEO

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>>57200599
>Control Program for Microcomputers
A desktop or laptop computer is a microcomputer, pic related is a minicomputer.

>>57200688
Can you upload the background tile?

>>57200962
>>57200995
Cell phones are cancer.

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>>57202676

>>57202853
Ouch, didn't realize that it had shading and stuff.

Why exactly did MS decide to treat PCs like tablets. Its clearly the market they dominate yet suddenly decided to strip it because tablets came along? Whatever happened to niche market appeal?

>>57203061
Dumb CEO. Tablets are in decline.

>>57203061
Appealing to normies who love smart phones and tablets.

>>57203218
Normies are cancer.

>>57195830
>He actually uses Windows 10
What are you doing here anon? Are you lost?

>>57200680
Honestly 8.1 was the peak in polish since XP.

Then it all went downhill with 10

>>57203061
Why exactly did PC manufacturers decide they needed touch screens in all their products?

>>57200446
Gold

>>57200688

how do you do that? pls respond

>>57200688
>This guy gets it

How to reproduce your work?

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>>57204071
Windows 7 Classic theme
Custom Icons
Some other minor customizations (changed icons in some dlls, changed fonts to MS Sans Serif etc)

>>57204135

thanks

>>57204135
Looks nice but enjoy your screen tearing boy

>>57204211
>using anything but the integrated gpu and opengl on your comfy win95 box

>>57202853
thank you

>>57188389
Nothing.