>implying KDE looks bad

It doesn't look bad if you theme it, but performance and stability are a bit fucky for everyday use.

>>57187464
Maybe it doesn't look bad, but it doesn't look good either

>>57187464
Your image doesn't exactly refute that.

>>57187502
5.8 has been very stable for me so far

>Less than 4GB memory usage at idle
Confirmed shop

>>57187464
KDE is the best DE, no doubt there

>>57187823
I have used kde for many years on computers with 2-4 gb of memory.
If I were to swap out active applications, everything would feel very sluggish.
500mb seems about right for a default setup, it can be a lot less if you tweak things.

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Is this the new desktop thread?

>>57187464

What distro is that? Looks nice desu.
Is it default or you pimped it?

There's no good DE at the moment. KDE crashes constantly, Xfce and LXDE act and feel like something from 1998, GNOME has gone full retard and removed all options for configuration, and Unity, while novel, isn't exactly a joy to use.

Oh the pain.

>>57187923
>KDE crashes constantly
>>57187881
here
Not had a single crash in the ~5 weeks this box has been up

>>57187928
That's interesting, lucky you! KDE is the one I like the best, but despite trying several distros and versions I've not managed to have anything near a stable experience for several years. :/

>>57187942
Maybe you should get a real distro, like Arch.

KDE is the best one ATM, hands down

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>KDE memory usage

>>57187960
>literally not using your computer

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>>57187464
KDE ftw

>>57187942
plasma works best with open source drivers and amd hardware. That's what the devs use to develop and test it. I have seven years old amd shit and it has worked flawless since the kde 4 days for me.

>>57187464
since plasma 5.7 ive switched. its nice. no crashes so far.

>>57188117
guy with no problems above:
I use integrated intel graphics and a 970m with bumblebee. Intel's drivers are usually pretty gud on Linux

>>57188152
Sure, but when I look around it is mostly nvidia and intel users whining about unstable and buggy plasma. Usually carried by plasma devs explaining that their drivers are shit.

>>57187464

KDE looks great, anyone who says otherwise is wrong.

KDE's problem is you don't get to see it look nice because of the fucking consistant crashing.

What happen with Gnome 3? It is abandonware now?

>>57188117
AMD CPU, AMD GPU, open source drivers. Maybe I'll have to give it another go. Cheers for the info!

>>57187464
I've managed to get rid of all crashes. I used to have at least 2 crashes daily before I did this. Go to Settings - Display and monitor - Compositor and turn off the following experimental options: enable color correction, allow applications to block composting. One of those is enabled by default for some reason on KDE 5.8 and it causes Plasma to crash.

>implying kde is stable
>implying kde doesn't lag like shit

>>57188190
>open source drivers
>not shit
??

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>open source "design"

>>57188117
That's some stupid bullshit.

>>57189532
Looks like dog shit.

>>57189668
Because you have no fucking taste.

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>>57187464
When autism level is 10000000

>>57187942
do you report the bugs? do you know how to use a debugger and get a backtrace?
are you sure some component of KDE is the problem?

>>57187464
>implying this looks good
Are you literally blind?

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>Implying KDE doesn't look fucking awful

>>57190975
What's the problem here, the imperfect gradient on window decoration?

>>57187464
>Program bar from Windows
>Control panel from OSX
Try harder.

>>57191090
They actually copied KDE there.

>>57191072
How about the disgusting pixelwidth border trashing the entire look of the window manager

Open sores at its finest

>>57191116
What?

>>57187464
Well, KDE is a disaster. It's a humanitarian nightmare. But it has fallen from any standpoint. I mean, what do you need, a signed document? Take a look at KDE. It is so sad when you see what's happened. And a lot of this is because of software licenses.

>>57191116
when the autismo hits you good

>>57189532
>Gnome 3
toddlerOS Sierra

>>57187960
>kde sucks
>keep a dedicated volume screen
u sure convinced me

>>57187881
What them are you running on your KDE? It looks professional and clean to me.

>>57191668
Arc aurorae theme
qtcurve (theme called RedFlat)
Arc kcolor theme
Papirus icon theme
Roboto Font

should be all u need :)

>>57187881
>hamburger menu

>>57191708
You can get rid of it if you don't like it, nothing wrong with it though

>>57191694
thanks

>>57191725
that's what all the plasma-shills say but i have to see proof of this.
kde2 was great. kde3 was perfection. kde4 was a disaster. kde5 might be an improvement but plasma is still shit.

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>>57191925
>that's what all the plasma-shills say but i have to see proof of this.

wget http://vizzzion.org/stuff/emptytoolbox.plasmoid
 plasmapkg2 -t package -i emptytoolbox.plasmoid
killall plasmashell && nohup plasmashell

>>57187464
>>57187881
>>57188011
>>57189711
>>57192004

>icon + text for items on panel

is this 2007? get that shit out here what the fuck.

>>57192020
it lets you quickly identify your open progs, in fact I just realized it was turned off on my Windows and turned it back on.

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>>57191090
>mah "kde panel totally ripped of windows 7"
pic is KDE 1 beta 3, from 1998

>>57192004
so the only way to get rid of it is a third-party hack
and this is why KDE is shit.

the sad thing is that they had this great environment with a great community and a great software and applet ecosystem, and then they said, NOPE. NOT GOOD ENOUGH, WE NEED TO MOVE INTO THE FUTURE AND REWRITE FUCKING EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH.

>>57192176
Why would you want to get rid of it anyway? Pretty sure the KDE developers know better than you when it comes to what to include.

>>57192196
i thought we were talking about KDE, not Gnome

>>57187464
it does

it's looked terrible since kde3.

>>57192196
because muh aesthetic. hamburger menus are gross. and if the KDE devs develop a DE that needs a hamburger menu to function, then good for them, I don't need it or want it. And besides, it's not like that is the only thing wrong with KDE...

>>57192208
>>57192221
Here's the real reason they don't let you remove the cashew/hamburger: normalfags.

A normalfag might accidentally remove the cashew and all the panels then be confused. A way to combat it could be to never allow the user to remove the final panel. The way we currently deal with it is posted above.

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>>57192176
>>57192196
>>57192221
I don't want to rain on your parade but, pic related.

>>57192278
lmao, who knew

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>implying kde will ever look this aesthetic

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Good to know I'm not the only one who likes KDE here. Sometimes it really feels I'm a lonely, special snowflake.

>>57192434
Please share your colorscheme, senpai. Also, gtk one if you have modified it to fit.

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>>57192434
lol

>>57192509
That's using the qt4 version I guess. It still doesn't look good though.

>>57192485
Arc for KDE: https://github.com/varlesh/Arc-Dark-KDE

GTK is just Arc.

>>57192509
I can't give up on Cantata just because of this. It's a very solid music player.

>>57192571
it's not a music player...

>>57192135
It literally always looked like it was trying to be Windows. What's your point?

>>57192020
muh macos dock

>>57192616
windows 7 didn't exist in 1998

>>57192571
Thanks, you should try using the git version with qt5 from cantata. It looks better than that old selection thing and works just as stable.
>>57192608
Why isn't it? You can use it standalone without manually starting mpd beforehand. It's faster using your own mpd session though.

>>57192278
Theme name or link? I've been looking for something exactly like this.

>>57192634
It looks like Windows as it did in in the pre-XP days, dummy. Fuck, it even looked more like Windows then than it does now.

>>57192640
Oh, I didn't kow there was a qt5 version.

You just made my day, sir.

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>>57192640
it still runs mpd

also HOLY fuck is this shit fucked and ugly, and it made a picture of a windows task manager be the icon for this song wtf lol

>>57192696
You must be a pleb with only a few albums, therefore seeing no necessity in using a client like Cantata.

Go back to your memestethic terminal clients, please.

>>57192762
>You must be a pleb with only a few albums, therefore seeing no necessity in using a client like Cantata.
sonata is a way nicer and less absolutely fucking retarted client than cantata (and has the same icon)

>>57192645
It's a modified aeri color scheme with breeze. I also modified the breeze gtk theme to fit. The gtk2 one is incomplete because of images for popups but mostly finished. Everything else is standard theme.
I also disabled the gradient in the title bar and changed the look of the buttons in the settings for the breeze deco.
I'm not sure how long that link works, I tried mega at first but it says that the upload will only hold for the session.
http://www95.zippyshare.com/v/acG9S6P0/file.html

>>57192840
Ddd you even try to configure Cantata?

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>>57192888
no, did you see how awful it looked on first open? >>57192696

I opened it again and it looks way better though - actually like it more than sonata desu

Pic is how it looked when I opened it a second time and connected it to my already-configured mpd instead of letting it set itself up its own conf or whatever

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>mfw when applefags will never have a desktop this nice-looking
KDE is the best-looking DE bar none.

>>57192914
literally why? you may as well just install mac os, holy shit.

>>57192905
You should try rating your favorite songs a little and use dynamic playlists. It was strangely addicting for me and allows me to easily listen to songs I don't hear often or just listening to my favorites. Of course it will only really be useful if the library is large.

>>57187823
I'm using KDE Neon and it uses less than 500 mb at start.

>>57192905
Oh, that's surprisingly good.

>>57192914
What theme

>>57192972
>You should try rating your favorite songs a little and use dynamic playlists
I don't really listen to music locally any more, I just use Spotify.

>>57193001
There was an option to use higher res icons which I turned on too, so now it looks better.

>>57189532
Looks exactly like gnome-shell, except gnome-shell looks better with the arc theme.

>>57193018
>I don't really listen to music locally any more, I just use Spotify.

That works too, local collections are falling out of style fast. To bad that there isn't a good player that integrates all music streaming thingies.

>>57193056
mopidy

>>57190975
>>57191116
Dude, i give you you're trying (i don't see any problem), but damn, if complete consistency and pixel perfection were that important for most people no one would be using windows for example.

>>57192914
It looks identical apart from the kterm logo at the menu bar.

>>57192278
Shill BTFO!

>>57193073
Looks interesting. Does it sit on top of system mpd or is it a custom mpd version?

>>57193138
system mpd

>>57193138
>>57193151
but it doesn't use your mpd configurations, it has its own*

>>57193151
>>57193161
Not bad, that means it's easy to try out.

>>57187464
KDE is incredible, running it with Wayland, 5.8. KDE Connect is glorious

>>57192317
What the fuck is that?

Y'all might be talking shit about KDE, but no matter the subjective opinions about aesthetics, let's agree that KWin is truly patrician-tier.

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>>57193585
what the fuck is what?

>>57192914
Tell me about this right now

>>57194109
what DE? looks comfy.

>>57192696

Is that the new Fisher Price Music Player?

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>>57187881
>mfw Alienware

>>57192317
>>57193585
>>57194109
>>57194388
Stop talking to yourself, hippie shit. Your DE is puke inducing

>>57194422
It's a nice laptop that's been dependable so far (admit I only have had it since February)

>>57194496
im not that guy, I actually want to know what DE that is

>>57187464
It doesn't look bad, but it looks bland, just simple, there's nothing different to the themes.

>>57194516
>he's never used the ghost theme on KDE

>>57192914
>kterm
Didn't know about that, I though it was konsole that was the official terminal emulator.

Looks nice, OP

>>57194531
>OP
anon*

>>57194109
Are you dense? What are you running?

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>>57194564
>>57194512
>>57194388
not a DE
just the most comfy/aesthetic/themable WM ever made

>>57194496
HATERS GONNA HATE

>>57194564
>>57194698
Your samefagging is pretty obvious

>>57187881
I thought you hated Arch

>>57194531
DESU it's more than likely just a slightly modded OS X running kterm than actually kde

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>>57194723
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


i know flat ui is all the rage these days but some of us oldfags still prefer decorations/widgets/skins that took a bit of effort to create

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>>57191925

>>57194733
wut

>>57194749
Yeah, I just edited the titlebar / menu in gimp. I forgot that the terminal emulator in KDE is called konsole and not kterm.

I was seriously expecting people to catch on and call me out right away.

>>57194698
TELL ME THE WM, ANON, I NEED TO FUCKING KNOW, MY COMFINESS DEPENDS ON IT

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>>57194898
but I have a fetish for teasing and denial...

>>57194898
is it awesome?

>>57194898
looks like some shit fluxbox theme

>>57194921
please anon, it looks like everything i've been looking for.

>>57194723
Here's your (You).

>>57194698
I'm trying to tell you that I like it, and would like to try it myself.

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>>57194936
pretty sure you can't have weird-shaped decorations on fluxbox. lots of other features that you don't have on fluxbox that I can't show you because I'm too gay to look up how to do screen video capture.

>>57195036
u gave it away now

>>57192662
By this logic windows is trying to be mac... oh wait, they're doing in more than one sense, they're trying to convert their platform in a walled garden already.

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>implying KDE will ever look as good as XFCE

>>57195000
>>57194982
It's a pretty sweet WM but the only problem is that there are literally so many comfy themes available that it's impossible to pick one or even keep track of the ones you like.

>>57195107
I'm using plasma but you have good taste senpai

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>>57195126
OOPS

>>57194811
I need to know how you made it look that way. Please tell me your DE and theme. just screenfetch everything

>>57195036
Ahh, so it's enlightenment. Thank you. Those are some pretty sick themes tho, care to share them with the class anon?

>>57192762
I download full discographies and use moc. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>57194857
AYY #REKT

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>>57195302
I found a whole bunch of dr16 themes on some site, half of them were complete garbage, these are the ones I have left. I literally don't remember the name of each one or what each one looks like
This screencap is Adept-Premier
>>57194921
Marble
>>57194811
23OzGlass
>>57194698
Hazard
>>57194109
Workbench (Amiga OS clone)
>>57192914
ApplePlatinum

I just find the logo really ugly, mostly.

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>tfw want to try KDE but using a poorfag laptop

>>57195107
>implying XFCE will ever have Wayland support

>>57195107
>unironically using crossface

>>57195468
This is neat. It looks like something you;d see in a movie.

>>57195468
>>57195546
>being this lonely

>>57195560
yep. wanna fight about it?

>>57195546
from what i can tell, e is all about neat, comfy, unconventional themes. i only fucked around with dr16 though, back in the day when it was still a "new" thing, and then for the past two days when i found out the 0.16 branch was still being (somewhat) maintained. e17 took 12 years to make and they turned it into this full DE type thing with a whole set of foundation libraries and now the whole thing is moving to Wayland which I'm not quite ready for. maybe when Patrick decides to add official support for it. i'm not even using dr16 as a primary WM, only for shitposting. i don't have the time or patience to adjust all the menus and settings and keybinding and other shit to make it 100% comfy, I'm too used to fluxbox to relearn e.

>>57192914
how do I make my KDE look like that?

>>57196215
1) Become a homosexual
2) Go to the Apple store
3) Buy a Mac

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>>57196269
hmm... I thought that Android and ChromeOS is for homosexuals.

>>57189532
That looks like shit

>>57187464
Neon is a fucking disgrace.

>>57196606
dis

>>57189711
background pls

>>57196292
>hmm... I thought that Android and ChromeOS is for homosexuals.
Is that the reason you use it?

>>57187464
>it only looks good after customization
>what are sensible defaults?

Fuck off.

People like you giving softwares with terrible defaults a free pass are killing open source software.

I think it looks good but it sucks to use. I run kubuntu on my desktop, plan on switching back to a simpler more functional style like mate ASAP

>>57197542
KDE has the best defaults out of any desktop environment.
Lightweight DEs don't look good by default because performance is ideal (WMs, MATE, XFCE, LXDE)
GNOME looks shit without dash to dock or themeing (Numix/Arc)
Cinnamon is okay by default, but Breeze is definitely better unless you theme it.
Breeze is amazing out of the box, not to mention OP's screenshot is basically default settings.

>>57198693
those ugly as sin rounded boxes around desktop icon labels which are limited to two lines before they get truncated are probably the thing i hated most about XFCE.

>>57195107
That looks like shit though.

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>>57198693
>Rubbish Bin

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KDE looks fine to me after theming it a bit, don't like the default Breeze look though

>>57201389
what theme? and the only thing I don't like about the default breeze theme are the title bars.

>>57197542
That IS default, you fucking idiot.

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Looks good senpai

>>57189403
AMD open-source drivers are actually pretty decent, achieving 70-110% of the closed source one.

>>57192914

>application-specific menubar integrated into desktop panel
I fucking hate this meme, why did this ever become a thing?
Who likes this shit?

It kinda does. Defaults definitely look a bit too much like that material design on lollipop. I know they're trying to get all modern and shit but I don't see how it looks good.

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I like XFCE already, I ain't switching

>>57201930
how do you like antergos so far?

>>57198693
that's the gayest fucking theme i have ever seen...

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>>57188562
What? It got updated to 3.22 less than a few weeks ago.

I have 10 gnome extensions on the latest version (for Debian Sid) and it feels+looks way better than KDE Plasma (after my personal tweaks) for me.

>>57203115
Because Antergos = arch without autism

>>57187464
KDE is more bloated and slow to load than Windows 10 running Avast.

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>>57203245
muh start menu

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>>57203245
>>57203349
muh dock

>>57203363
Linux devs always imitate designs from Windows and OSX to lure in new users. That is pathetic, they should develop their own unique design and identity in the desktop scene.

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>>57187464
>implying KDE looks good

>>57203396
>Linux devs always imitate designs from Windows and OSX to lure in new users.
Given workspaces and window overview in GNOME are actually central to its design, they're doing a pretty bad job at impersonating OSX. If they really wanted to get the ball rolling, they'd do all sorts of stupid shit like make maximize move your window to another workspace and full-screen it.

why does KDE lag so fucking much
why is everything in it so fucking huge

>>57187502

You know fuck all

>>57203504
Autism is the main reason Linux is a mess. The UI is a cluster fuck and many key features related to device drivers don't work as intended. Simplicity =/= minimalism, so making it user friendly should be the focus.

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>>57192434
>loli

>>57195107
holy shit that actually looks alright
fix the scrollbar, icons and fuckhuge taskbar and we're good

>>57187464
#ffffff

>>57187881
>vnc
into the trash it goes

>>57204307
what's wrong with vnc?

>>57196292
>android
some users within the 2 billions might be gay
>iphone
EVERYONE is a fag, no exception

>>57204326
it's shit

>>57189532
>kindergarten style icons with different shapes everywhere
>inconsistent gradient background that mimics extremely blurred glas
>extreme font weights with ugly edges which are being concealed by non-industry-standard high res displays (>muh """"""retina"""""" >muh buzzword)
>inconsistent font sizes
>inconsistent window decorations
>rounded corners with different radiuses
>always on top global menubar reducing precious vertical space
>dock reducing vertical space even more in its default configuration

>applel "design"

>>57203151
How? I think it's cute

>>57192434
>Dragon's Dogma
muh nigga.

>>57189711
Post your paper please.

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>>57195464
At least use it the right way.

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>>57196965
>>57204859

>>57187823
I'm using mint KDE and it never goes above 1.5gb

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>>57207060
You must have a small amount of memory.

My workload memory stays around 9-10 GiB on my KDE system.

>>57207513
actual "in-use" memory, i.e. no buffer/cache? just out of curiosity, what exactly do you do that needs so much memory?

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>>57207624
3.9 GB used, everything running is visible in previous scrot (and the vnc server of course)

>>57207659
inexcusable

>>57187464
I'm not implying anything. KDE looks bad.

>>57207709
>Contributing an assertion that KDE looks bad while providing no insight to your reasoning

>>57187502
>It doesn't look bad if you theme it, but performance and stability are a bit fucky for everyday use.

I'm using KDE Neon, which is 5.8.2 KDE on top of Ubuntu LTS.

It's stable. It's fucking *pretty* It's about the same speed as any other desktop. I say this while typing on a machine that came with Vista.

You know what slows this machine down? Chromium. It eats RAM.

>>57207722
It looks like it's made out of plastic. Icons are all different sizes. I like Qt but KDE's panel is cancer.

>>57207741

>It eats RAM.
They call that caching anon. It makes things faster.

>>57187464
KDE looks/feels to me like its every icon/button/etc is not an integral part of the gui, like it was was put on a blank space. I don't know why.

Who is this passposting namefag?

>>57207722
not everyone thinks flat ui, shitty line-art icons, big boxy menus, etc. is a good look.

>>57207762
>They call that caching anon. It makes things faster.

Not when it forces the machine to use the swap partition it doesn't.

I agree that free ram is wasted ram, but this is ridiculous.

>>57207810
luckily KDE is fully themable lol!

>>57192914
add a fucking bottom bar launcher nigger. There are tons of em ,pick one and finish the job

>>57207826
sounds like ur colonel has it swappiness set too high dude

>>57207829
unfortunately not everyone thinks a bloated unstable monolithic architecture is a good design - not sure if that's as easy to theme away

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>>57187464
only use this

I'm trying Deepin Desktop for a few weeks and I have to say, that I don't miss KDE.

>>57187464
>implying KDE has removed support for Wacom tablets since 5.0 and its the end of 2016 and it still prints them as joysticks.
>tfw krita is part of kde and you cant use it without gtk-based DE if you are left handed and don't want to fuck with xsetwacom every reboot/replug