Vivaldi

Garbage.

>>57170745
Compared to?

>>57170750
Any other browser.

>>57170657
Chropera will better, Vivaldi have a long way to go yet

>>57170657
Vivaldi is a snowflake trash

Been really disappointed the last couple of times I gave it a spin, but doubtless I'll give it another in a couple of months. I really want to like it, but it's just so, so shit.

Chrome is the only good browser.

>>57170657
Literally just a skin for Chrome

Pointless browser

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>>57170657
hipstershit
use opera if anything

>>57170657

vivaldi is great but their tab shorcuts and logic is fucked up

t. tried to like it

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>>57171022

That's a funny way to spell Cyberfox

>>57171353
cyberfox comes second.

vifaildi

>>57170657
I hate Chrome because Jewgle,
I hate Firefox because Mozilla numale-cuckoldry + 200000000mb ram,
I hate IE/Edge because it's so much shit I don't even know where to start,
I hate Opera because cheap hipster Firefox clone.

I really wanted Vivaldi to become a thing, but I must admit, it's even more shit than the rest.

enjoy your spyware. atleast your not using windows.

>>57170657
Garbage

>>57170657
Garbage.

>>57170657
Mac version is bloated and slow as fuck. Like browsing through treacle.

>>57170657
I'm just gonna tell you the feature i love more than anything in that browser:
>give short nickname to most used bookmarks (e.g yt for youtube)
>enable "open bookmarks on nickname match" in quick commands settings
>f2, then type nickname
>profit

Also:
>give search engine a letter in the options
>f2, then type the letter, space, your query

You can do pretty much everything from f2, it's great

>>57171122
Please expand.
Also, when was the last time you used it?
I used to hate default tab behaviour, then they finally added all the settings needed to set it how I wanted.

>>57171759
Quick commands is a great feature, nice way to easily jump between tabs and windows when you have a lot of stuff open. It's nice that they include tabs from private windows too.

>>57170657
I hate this browser and its shitty UI. So ugly.

>>57171353
>any Firefox derivative
>good

>>57170657
Why they can fucking fix this shitty font scaling. They use blurry gray-scaling instead of the sharp sub-pixel scaling.

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>proprietary
>abysmal UI
>horrendous font rendering

Didn't know it was possible to fuck up a Bink browser, but they did.

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>>57170763
retard

>Remove home button and adjust layout using custom css
>Remove typed history from bundle.js
>Update
>Every change is gone
>Bundle.js has changed so I can't just copy the old file on top

There has to be a way to permanently stop the typed history from showing up.

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>NO
>COOKIE
>WHITELISTING

>>57171690
This is how I felt last time I tried it too. It feels less sluggish to me now. I do set the theme to something that doesn't change the toolbar colors according to the sites favicon though, that stuff sometime looks neat, sometimes it looks horrible.

>>57170657
I will use it once performance gets better.

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>>57170657
>using a website masquerading as a browser

>>57170783

Judging from your grammar I assume you are an opera-dev

>>57175396
An Opera dev wouldn't call their failed abortion of a browser "Chropera"

>>57174362
That's why I keep trying it every now and then.

It's just kind of fun to use a browser which is not trying to be a thin bland chrome around the webpage. If that's what you like you'll be happy with Chrome, Edge, Firefox and Safari. Vivaldi is doing something different which is nice even if I don't end up using it as my main browser.

Better than the rest but nothing's as good as old Opera.

>>57170657
just downloaded! I m pretty impressed tbqh

>>57171759
Don't Firefox keywords do the same thing?

>>57178835
Yes, but you have to press ALT+D instead of F2.

>>57177250
>thin bland chrome around the webpage
>Firefox
What did he mean by this? Firefox has the most extensive series of addons, extensions, and theming out of any of the browsers he listed, and even has more than Vivaldi.

>>57178883
Yup, you're right. The Vivaldi team is more willing to expose it's users to all it's goodies without making it's users seek out extensions for everything.

Some people will like that, some people will prefer the way most other browser do it, thin chrome around a webpage + lurking around for extensions if they want them.

>>57173190
>what is vanilla cookies from the chrome app store

Im using edge since they added adblock and tampermonkey
It is the fastest that also works with my touch screen

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It's nice tbqh

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>>57170657
>Unlike other browsers, however, Vivaldi is built using technologies that traditionally belong to the Web, such as CSS and JavaScript (namely React and Node.js).

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>57170657
Laggy JavaScript UI

>>57170763
>>57170745
>>57170943
>>57171063
>>57171484
>>57171613
>>57171621
>>57172626

these.

Vivaldi is nothing more than a closed source chromium skin. Only retards fell for the hype.

>>57183053
You can't stack tabs, round corners, change the location of tabs, and setup keywords for search engines in chromium. Also, believe it or not, Vivaldi runs considerably faster than chromium when it comes to Go-sites and heavy-js material-shit sites

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I'll switch when there is out of window tab drag 'n drop. Browser is already great and highly customizable and can only get better over time.

>>57183053
>Chromium skin
That's the point retard

I recently dropped Firefox for Vivaldi, and I'm enjoying it. It's nice that I don't have to download 50 extensions to make Vivaldi good, and I like its customization options better than Firefox. And it's not Chrome, so that's automatically a plus.

>>57171601
Ungoogled Chromium.

>>57183128
They should try making a real UI instead of making a fullscreen Chromium web app. Then at least it'd be a fork and not just a website masquerading as a browser.

>>57183168
What the fuck do you mean that it's not a real UI?

>>57183243
The UI is a fucking website. It's all JavaScript.

>>57183339
Who gives a fuck?? It's more customizable than the abomination that is Chropera.

>>57183094
>I'll switch when there is out of window tab drag 'n drop.
You can already drag tabs to other windows, if that's what you mean.

>>57183405
People who don't want to deal with a laggy pile of trash

>>57183511
Stop browsing on a toaster

>>57183617
My toaster can handle real browsers, why should I upgrade to use a failed abortion?

>>57170657
Well, Vivaldi is a disaster. It's a humanitarian nightmare. But it has fallen from any standpoint. I mean, what do you need, a signed document? Take a look at Vivaldi. It is so sad when you see what's happened. And a lot of this is because of botnet.

>>57183715
Thanks Mr drump

>tab stacking is pointless
>No, "view image" option like in FF.
>accessing bookmarks is bass ackwards

Still better than chrome anyway.

>>57178835
You have also to press enter after typing the keyword.
Pressing enter makes you move your hand away from the correct positioning on the keyboard.

>closed source russian garbage probably infested with backdoors for kgb to spy on americans

Useful cyber idiots...

>>57170657
2 months after i last tried it on both linux and windows, still shit

call me later

PS: even a shitty browser like syshunt ( which is not intented for every-day usage, obviously) is better in terms of stability

>>57185716
>f6 for bookmarks tree view in sidepanel
>ass backward

>ctrl+b for the fullsize bookmarks page
>ass backward

It's much better than dropdown menus or bookmark bars, t.b.q.h familia

>>57170657
Did they fix the CTRL+number thing, or at least add settings to make it work just like every browser? I'm gonna finally switch to 8.1 (from XP) if they've made that work correctly.

Instead of going to the third browser tab when pressing CTRL+3, it takes me to the last tabs I accessed, instead.

>>57186788
>f6 for bookmarks tree view in sidepanel
>F6
What the fuck were they thinking?
Hell no, I'm not gonna use CTRL+L to select the address bar.

>>57186918
Works for me the way you want it. I might have checked some checkbox somewhere in the settings.

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>>57186918
you mean like this?

>>57187211
Oh, that's good. I'm updating and making it my main browser.

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>>57186930
You're in luck f.a.m.
You can edit all the keyboard shortcuts you want.

Plus in Vivaldi you almost never need to focus the adress field because you can do everything from the quick command menu (f2) even when in fullscreen or minimal interface.

Except adding bookmarks.
That's my only beef with Vivaldi right now.
Having the bookmarks add dialog tied with the address bar. I can't add bookmarks from ui-less interface.

>>57186788
>It's much better than dropdown menus
It's not.

>>57187868
tree view >>> dropdown menus
only plebs like dropdowns

Is Vivaldi still a slow piece of shit?
If not, then I might consider

This slow, non-free Chromium-based shit? Try otter-browser. It's lightweight and has the same UI as Vivaldi and old Opera. You just need to customise it a bit so it won't look shit. Though I think its development is a little bit slower than Vivaldi's.

https://otter-browser.org/

Is there a place to download extensions or addons?
Is it open source?
Does it have an ad blocker that is in active development?
Am I able to style the browser at all?
Are you able to manage cookies, scripts and iframe black/whitelisting on a site-by-site basis?

If no to any of these then no thanks

>>57170657
It's shit.

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>>57188426
1. yes, you can use chromium addons
2. nope
3. nope
4. nope
5. nope

However Otter does everything but the first point, but it'll be possible in the future.

>>57170657
Just use cyberfox and copy your config.
Trust me.

I went from firefox to icecat to cyberfox and I couldn't be happier.

>>57183084
Notice how the Vivaldi haters didn't respond to your post? Children, the lot of them.

>>57188452
>2. nope
What is
>https://vivaldi.com/source/
?

>>57189080
I didn't know, sorry. Wikipedia says it's proprietary.

>>57189080
The EULA is proprietary.
https://tldrlegal.com/license/vivaldi-browser-eula
>7. Without limiting the foregoing, you are neither allowed to (a) adapt, alter, translate, embedinto any other product or otherwise create derivative works of, or otherwise modify the Software ; (b) separate the component programs of the Software for use on different computers; (c) reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble or otherwise attempt to derive the source code for the Software, except as permitted by applicable law; or (d) remove, alter or obscure any proprietary notices on the Software, or the applicable documentation therefore.

The fact that they offer a source code package doesn't mean that it's complete or free of binary blobs in the usual parts.

>>57189241
Oh, so I'm right, thanks.

>>57188253
It's not as snappy as Chromes native UI. Seems to be about on par with Firefox's UI in terms of snappiness (maybe better).

Does any browser other than firefox (with panorama) get tab groups right?