Apple Hate

>>57151266
And another companies are following the train.

honestly it's the same business model intel uses
at least intel is straight forward with their technology advancements being in a 2 year cycle

apple supported the 4s until the most recent iOS so that's probably better than most mobile device support

what do you think are buzzwords and what do you think qualifies as buzzwords, OP?

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>>57151400
Yes, shoulda made it general
Post other companies who do this kind of bullshit like Microsoft, Intel, AMD

>>57151425
apple's business model is pretty straightforward compared to its neighbors. everything costs money. the data you store on their servers is yours and private, and that's about the long and short of it. if you want in, it's expensive because some smart guys like Don Norman figured out smart interaction design shit like 20 years ago and apple have been coasting ever since. also they take some time to make the cases look nice (this is different from design as i used the term before).

meanwhile google, facebook, et al. offer "free" or super cheap services and sometimes products (e.g. amazon's dash) when in reality they're only giving it away as the bait for a much larger trap involving data mining and increasingly intelligence gathering, and we're all the mice. i understand that this is problematic, i reluctantly use these services anyway, but it boggles my mind that people argue the mouse trap approach is better or that the approach apple took is objectively or even subjectively bad (as people on /g/ seem to do pretty often).

the basic (albeit expensive) transaction model might mean that apple are arrogant, condescending, and even douches, but at least they're not sneaky about it with ulterior motives.

>>57151266
yeah that ten year "planed obsolescence" is rough

>>57151425
If only they would not change the socket every gen

oy vey i guess

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>>57151920
>all ugly abortions of off the shelf standard parts that all look he same anyway other than gaudy colors and fan placement
>that nobody will ever even see let alone give a fuck about unless you forcably subscribe them to your guts blog
keks me every time

>>57151266
>Planned obsolescence
Apple has released about a dozen iPhone models

In the same time (less actually,) Samsung has released over 3 dozen Galaxy phone models. One even self destructs within a month

Sony has a dozen Xperia phones on the market right now.

>>57151898
This.

Just give it a year or two and the 3.5mm headphone jack will be a revolutionary, new, innovative stoke of genius from Apple.

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>Criticizing Apple
>But not actually criticizing the consumer and the other companies that are just as bad as Apple

Consumer electronics are in general very shit for everyone involved, especially the end user. Yet it's only fanboys who miss this fact so they can continue to rant about how they hate Android or whatever.

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>>57152457
Better report that crash.

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>>57152303
not all galaxy phones are flagship models. only the normal s family and note family.

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so many poor fucks can't even afford an iPhone

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>>57151704
Interesting point, haven't thought about it that way.

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>>57152465
hahaha

>>57151266
UNIX is such a fucking walled garden.

>>57152457
>posting screenshots from a decade old OS
>pretending said image is relevant

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>>57152823
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>>57151461
All this image proves is that Apple evolved.

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>>57152875
>Apple evolved

>>57152865
Weird, I didn't think you could post to 4chan from a DOS shell

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>>57152875

wew

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>>57152906
I didn't think your Wi-Fi could penetrate the air of desperation surrounding your posts.

>>57152950
These responses are even weaker than usual. iPhoto was for plebs, and it doesn't even exist anymore. It's just like those 2000s era screenshots that keep getting posted. Try harder DOS shill.

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>>57152970
I'm posting from my linux machine, so there's no issue.

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>>57152982
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>>57151266
What is this lockdown software meme about OSX? Oh I know. it's /v/eddit not knowing what they're talking about. Like always.

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>>57152993
:-*

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>>57152993
>>57153010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA

>>57152890
>new cable standard for all products for less pin breakfast wand faster data transfer
>people don't want to buy new $199 docks and by other companies
>Apple offers adapter
>somehow a bad thing

>>57153020
a lot of people on /g/ have only interacted with iOS (which is pretty locked down), and figure that their experience with iOS is equally applicable to OS X. this isn't entirely surprising, since many of these likely indian shitposters didn't even have apple stores in their country until recently:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/20/news/economy/india-apple-stores-foreign-investment/

some people seem to have been in the same room as a macbook pro before, but either get intimidated by the shell or simply never knew it existed, and figured this must means it's a "fisher price" operating system

>>57153076

I have used a Mac before. It's a very sterile, bland & boring experience, ultimately. It's just like an oversized iPad with keyboard attached. It was a nicely designed piece of aluminium but it was not for me.

I did have an iPhone back when they first came out but Android just outpaced and out-featured iOS at every turn.

Nice-looking devices, but, bland.

>>57153036

>bluetooth music synced plug

I need this in my life

>>57153187
>It's just like an oversized iPad with keyboard attached.
sounds like you don't know how to call or use a terminal. which is fair enough, but that's on you

>>57153199

It was too boring to enjoy, I almost fell asleep finding an excuse to use it.

I prefer using GNU/Linux on a proper computer. It's a lot more interesting.

So I've never owned an iPhone in my life.

I just got an iPhone 4 an hour ago because it was cheap as shit and I wanted to try something new.

Why the bloody fuck isn't the option to download the old version of apps native to the damn device? Why do I need to sync it to download literally anything?

Please tell me there is a way around this.

>>57153239
you keep making a point about boredom and lethargy and stuff. are you sure you're not sleep deprived?

>>57153241
>Why the bloody fuck isn't the option to download the old version of apps native to the damn device?
what mental model do you have that leads you to think that you should be allowed to download the old versions of apps?

>>57153060
>pin breakfast wand
Did your brain just have a spasm there? Or did you type something else and this is just the state of Apple's autocorrect today?

>>57153260

Sorry to upset you. I suppose simple minds are content with Apple devices. I need greater stimulation.

>>57153290
the sort that thinks that readily available copies of things stored in servers should be downloadable at any version, instead of forcing you buy a new version to further convenience yourse...

Oh, that's the point, isn't it? It's deliberately made to put me into pain for not shelling out $700 .

>>57153290
Because sometimes the new version requires a newer phone model and I shouldn't need to shell out for another phone to continue using software I already own and works fine for what I want it to do.

And because sometimes the developer fucks things up and breaks your workflow in an update.

On Android we partially solve this using Titanium Backup, which can backup apps before you get a questionable upgrade or before moving to a different phone, and restore them as needed.

>>57153397
The worst part about this is that the older versions. Are right there. In the servers. Ready to download.

But you have to have it connected to a desktop to install, for no fucking reason other than to make you miserable.

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>>57151266
I know every company does this but....
>we have diversity!
>look how progressive we are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi0IOqzJs8g

>>57153414
This is something I don't understand about iPhones and iPads. They seem to want to replace computers, yet unlike Android which legit might, iThings need to be connected to iTunes on a computer to do arbitrary things with no real reason.

>>57153241
>Why the bloody fuck isn't the option to download the old version of apps native to the damn device?
What iOS version are you on? I got a 3GS on 6.1 and it asks you if you want to download the last version that supported your phone.

>>57153333
it's not your software. it belongs to the developer(s). if they want to break backwards compatibility and move people to a new API or something like that, knowing that apple isn't going behind their back and serving old versions of software is nice.

>>57153397
sometimes older versions are replaced for reasons other than features. sometimes security flaws are made apparent or some other circumstance dictates that you *should* move on to a new version.

but fundamentally it's not your software to make this decision about. if you want to use snapchat, you have to accept the app that snapchat has asked apple to serve.

(replace snapchat with whatever you want. please don't have a shitstorm about this)

it doesn't even really make sense to insist on the older version of software. if it interacts with any remote server, it's very likely that sufficiently old versions won't send recognizable queries because the server on the other end has evolved in tandem with the iOS app.

next time you buy a 6 year old phone, think about this shit.

>>57153036
that looks fun!

>>57153241
There is, when you try and download an app on an older OS it asks you if you want the last compatible version (if one exists).

>>57153466
>next time you buy a 6 year old phone, think about this shit.
Not a problem on Android, most apps still support users all the way back to Gingerbread 2.3.

>>57153476

boom boom in your bum bum!

>>57153480
then why don't I see it?

>>57152401
To be fair, the thing that drives money into developing new technology is consumerism.

>>57153306
i wasn't upset. i'm concerned about you. you brought up boredom and sleepiness a few times and it just sounds like you're tired or something. i've never heard of anyone being insufficiently intellectually stimulated by an operating system (or, for that matter, blaming their lack of stimulation on the operating system), so i expressed some concern for your well-being.

i don't know where this stimulation critique is coming from. my stimulation comes from the stuff i work on while using my computer. i think if you're looking for mental stimulation from your operating system, you're either looking for contrived hoops to jump through that your operating system creates for you (and what motivation you would have for that is beyond me), or you're saying something else. not really sure what, not really sure i care.

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>>57153486
and android is a clusterfuck of fragmentation that people don't like developing for. or do you not remember the netflix post about testing on android?

>>57153466
>sometimes older versions are replaced for reasons other than features. sometimes security flaws are made apparent or some other circumstance dictates that you *should* move on to a new version.
That's all well and good, but I'll decide that for myself. If I'd rather have a version with a minor vulnerability in it than a clunky, broken, slow version that makes me want to throw it across the room every time I try to use it, that's my call.

>but fundamentally it's not your software to make this decision about. if you want to use snapchat, you have to accept the app that snapchat has asked apple to serve.
I bought the phone and the app, and I'll damn well use whatever version I like.

>it doesn't even really make sense to insist on the older version of software. if it interacts with any remote server, it's very likely that sufficiently old versions won't send recognizable queries because the server on the other end has evolved in tandem with the iOS app.
This is one legit reason to force me to upgrade an app. But some apps don't connect to servers, or only make normal HTTP requests to websites the format the result on the screen.

>>57153516

Sorry to hurt your feelings Mac-guy :(

>>57153537
I'm not a developer so I don't give a fuck. There's a lot more useful apps on Android anyway and it's not locked down so I can do what I want.

>>57153546
my feelings aren't hurt. you're still really bad at reading tone. you should try not doing that for a while

>>57153558
Fuck off, you stupid fucking piece of shit iToddler. Kill yourself.

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>>57153558

I didn't mean to upset anyone. Perhaps you shouldn't care so much what others think about boring operating systems/devices. Have a nice day.

>>57153538
>That's all well and good, but I'll decide that for myself. If I'd rather have a version with a minor vulnerability in it than a clunky, broken, slow version that makes me want to throw it across the room every time I try to use it, that's my call.
let's be clear what your call is.

it's your call whether you're willing to give up some stability for usability. it's not your call whether you get access to a binary that someone else owns. if snapchat or facebook or whoever wanted to stop letting people download their apps, that's their call. it's not our right to keep downloading the app from third party sources. it's certainly a reality of the internet never really making anything unavailable, but in legal and perhaps ethical terms, it's their call which version to continue serving and supporting because it's their work.

>>57153590
Jesus fuck, it's amazing the lengths mactards go through just to defend apple.

>>57153513
False

The only good thing that consumerism has is making certain technologies very very cheap. Like for example with every phone now using a touchscreen. Producing touchscreens is now cheaper than ever

>>57153568
now you seem upset.

>>57153582
just get some rest and try letting your work intellectually stimulate you rather than the operating system in which you work.

>>57153610
you're going to have to say more if you want to be taken seriously.

>>57153622
Why, you're just as retarded as Flat earthers. Nobody takes you seriously.

>>57153590
No, but Android lets me easily install it if I've downloaded it somewhere else, and extract the APK if I want to backup the version I have. And it lets me do it without connecting my phone to a computer running proprietary software.

>>57153630
what outrageous lengths do you think i'm going to in order to defend apple?

at what point in the chain of ownership and propriety do you think you have a reasonable claim on some binary?

>>57153306
*tips fedora

>>57153770

There's no need to be upset.

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Reminder that Apple is one of the companies that collaborate with the NSA

>>57153926
the fuck is PalTalk?

>>57152739
The forum posters are fucking retards but if you wanna go full autism on your interior decoration that's a really nice piece compared to most of the other battery chargers on the market

>>57153926
>Microsoft has had this feature for FIVE YEARS before apple had it
iFags on SUICIDE WATCH

>>57151266
I'm going to buy Mac next month.

Reason: no privacy is very attractive. I don't get distracted

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>iPhone users

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>>57155100

>>57155100

Surely this is ironic? I can't fathom someone being that stupid.

>>57151704
>the data you store on their servers is yours and private
>yours and private
>their servers

I won't even bother to read the rest.

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fresh kickstarter garbage

I realize this is an apple hate thread, but I want to get a cheap MP3 player and I was wondering what you guys thought about maybe getting an old used ipod? Not getting a Zune, or and iPod Touch or anything, just maybe a Nano or whatever the original line was called, if it had a name.

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>>57155141
>I was wondering what you guys thought about maybe getting an old used ipod?
If you got no other easy choice then get it. Apple won't get a single cent from an old used ipod anyway.
And nobody will thing you're an idiot unless you go around screaming "I can listen music on the go. Apple is so innovative! Totally worth a patent"

>>57155136
> you can't daisy chain these pieces of shit

lol

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>>57152137

>>57155100
I hope she did that intentionally as an ironic joke.

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>>57155389

>>57152875
>Apple evolved.
KEK

>>57155437

>if overpriced shit could evolve, what you'd have left is a mac

>>57155475
we could have had a primarily ad-supported future where everything we see is logged by companies which have since turned out to support the NSA?

>>57155121
It is.

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>>57155482
>implying we dont

>>57155475
Google glass is gay and stupid, I don't need a shitty power hungry atom in my phone (and an even bigger monopoly for Intel), that windows phone is hideous and needs to go back to the 90s with the other shitty PDAs, the Motorola Atrix or whatever was an interesting concept, but ultimately pointless. If I'm at home with a monitor and keyboard why would I want to use a phone to run all that?

iPhone already seamlessly transfers all the important stuff I need from it to my computer instantly without even having to plug it in.

tl;dr your future that didn't happen sucks.

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>>57155643
pic related
your future will never change
oh my bad i ment
your future will never innovate

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>>57155643
I see that your shit-posting machine is working for you

>>57155643
>seamlessly

I've had more trouble getting the shit that is iTunes to work properly then any other computer program in my entire life

>>57152436
>switch my mouse into defense mode

XD

>>57153036
I mean, if it has a decent bass driver... :)

>>57157040
>lower caSe S-key not working
kek

>>57155330
If feminists and libtards understood irony they wouldn't do any of the stupid shit they do.

>>57157943
xDDDD

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>>57151707
I don't want to see that picture ever again you fuck.

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>>57155136
>iTards will defend this
Holy shit

Wouldn't it be so much better if they improved on the jack instead of just removing it?
Like having the cable to be removable, so it could charge from the phone or be wireless?
Removing options while the alternatives is bad is just stupid.
This might change in a few years, maybe this forces development, but since their demographic is women and poor black people, this will just lead to fewer people having headsets and thus I have to hear their shitty taste in music when they play it in their loudspeakers.

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>>57152408
A follow up to the russian ISS guy.

Apparently the russians got viruses floating around the ISS' laptops, and the astronauts were forced to move to Linux. The Linux Foundation got tasked to educating them.

>>57152993
The Apple multitasking is actually inspired from DuARTe's work on WebOS, and not from HTC.