/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for Arch is a meme

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What's a relatively minimal distro to be installed/burned on USB flash drive, preferably with persistence.
Just need it to have mpv/FireFox/python2,3/ffmpeg/pdf tools/Office suite.
Any suggestions?
Second for /g/ goddess

I'm upgrading my Ubuntu distro and it's taking forever. I have a train to catch in 20 minutes. What's the worst thing that could happen if I cancel while it's on "installing the upgrades"?

Gentoo > Arch > Ubuntu > * > Debian

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This may sound silly, but what is the best distro for gaming? Ideally something that just wurks.

is there a way to bind a hotkey combination like ctrl alt d to run a command that changes settings on a bunch of applications and websites to go from dark theme to bright theme and vice versa? how would i even get started on that? i'm a linux noob

can i use 2 monitors with radeon and intel card on arch?
and if yes how?

>>57143963
the next time you run the upgrade command it'll tell you what command you need to run to fix it. and then you just upgrade again

>>57144027
>gentoo
nonfree pig disgusting

>>57144075
this is on debian jessie btw

>>57144075
xbindkeys, shell script

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>>57143905
slacko64

>>57144043
Ubuntu, or arch if you feel like having customization.

>>57144080
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead

You guys were right about Debian/APT, it's such a piece of shit, I spent my time researching APT, learning how to use aptitude, pinning etc and autoremove still wants to remove xorg and my networkmanager.

Going back to Fedora, for the sanity that is DNF

how is the Ubuntu net install image only 55mb when Debian net install is 360mb+?

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>>57144263
I like having to remember dpkg, apt, apt-get, apt-cache, apt-file, aptitude, and who knows what else in order to deal with packages on Debian.

>>57144112
>make.conf
>ACCEPT_LICENSE="@FSF-APPROVED"

problem solved

>>57144357
Gentoo really is master race

>>57144357
If you do this, it isn't vanilla Gentoo anymore.

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>>57143599
ty for the inspiration for my new wallpaper

>>57144381
Saved.

>>57144381
arc theme colored when?

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>>57144173
>slacko64
What's the different from puppy linux?
Do you recommend porteus?

>>57144340
Jej I wish I could say the same

>>57144330
The Ubuntu netinstall is broken, download the server iso if you want to do a minimal install

>>57144416
Slacko64 is a 64 bit puppy linux, based off of Slackware. Never tried porteus, use slacko.

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>>57144433
>Slacko64 is a 64 bit puppy linux, based off of Slackware.
Will get the 32 Bit for maximum compatibility.
Does it have package manger?
To install these
mpv/FireFox/python2,3/ffmpeg/pdf tools/Office suite.
And how's the printer support?

>>57144491
>>57144416
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/a/

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>>57144491
It has a package manager, printer support is built in.

You may run into problems but I never have.

>tfw xfce4-terminal ported to GTK3

FINALLY NO MORE CLEARING SCREEN BUG

>>57143963
>>57144090
Oh yeah...I love that...also it pauses after one file downloads, if you quit in between while downloading using apt-get

>>57144586
>FINALLY NO MORE CLEARING SCREEN BUG
Wat?

>>57144403
Not sure what arc colors you want where, But here's the .svg if you want to have at it http://svgur.com/i/Co.svg

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>>57144527
Thanks anon.
Will give it a try and see how it goes.
Sometimes I need to have "own OS" to do certain small tasks when at work, and carrying a laptop is a big hassle since commute to work is 50 Km.
Just DD the ISO to a USB, right?
Also shy maki for your trouble.

>>57144764
I don't really like maki but thanks anon. And yes you just dd the iso, remember to bs=4M.

>>57144778
>remember to bs=4M
Not him but why?
For speed?

>>57144817
For speed

> Update Arch
> reboot
> system hangs, and gets nmi_watchdog cpu_core stuck errors.

apparently it's my wireless drivers broadcom-wl-dkms which is the cause of this. Shouldn't dkms modules not be affected by kernel upgrades?

>>57144374
There is no vanilla Gentoo, Gentoo is the sum of its package management tools and how you install the system is entirely up to you.

>>57144843
Does it really make a difference? than say 1M or use whatever default?

>>57144916
It's about 10 times faster on my 2003 macbook.

>>57144890
>Arch
Found the problem.

>>57144947
>>57144817
Doesn't make that big difference.
Depends on the write speed of the USB flash drive.

>>57144904
Stage 3, liveCD are the vanilla Gentoo.

>>57144700
bump

>>57144753
Thanks.

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How does Linux handles drivers?

In windows you have to install a proprietary driver for each device, or use the generic ones bundled in with the OS.

In linux...?
I would like to know how it works.

How do I protect my system? I'm new to Arch, forgive me. I messed up something configuring xorg so I booted up the arch image, mounted my filesystem to the live iso session and edited the files to return it to its old state.

Basically anyone with an ISO usb stick can get into my system. How do I prevent people from having almost free access to my shit? Or do I need some kind of disc encryption?

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I have a python script which needs root privs to run. When I run it like

sudo python script.py

it works. Now I want to have the script globally available like any other command, so I made it executable and dropped it into my script dir ~/bin, but it is only available when I call it without sudo. With

sudo script.py

I get a command not found.

Where did I fuck up?

>>57145126
encrypt your disk and boot partition

>>57145142
i guess it's because ~/bin isn't in root's PATH

>>57145096
in most cases, drivers are shipped with the linux kernel itself
proprietary or other out-of-tree (not shipped with the kernel) drivers are installed like other software as kernel modules

provided you don't need any of the latter kind, you don't need to do anything special (at least assuming the distro kernel you're using has any required drivers enabled, you can build linux with any set of drivers you want, most desktop distros ship will most things available)
updating them is just a matter of keeping your kernel up to date

>>57145142
because sudo use its own PATH defined by 'secure_path' at compile time and /etc/sudoers

>>57145142
Okay I figured it out, I need to login as root (sudo -s) and then it is available.
>>57145173
>>57145214
Thanks, makes sense.

>>57144586
>>57144700
>>57145064

I had a weird issue where under certain conditions if you resize (maximize) the window, the prompt would disappear. The screen looked empty and cleared. I've seen other people with those symptoms and no one had a fix.

Who TinyCore here?

Any reason not to use i3 with a minimal Ubuntu install?

>>57145999
Why do you want to know Australian Satan?

>>57143599
How much of the emacs tutorial should I read?

>>57146083
jut read it all, you don't have to if you don't want to learn emacs

>>57146008
The Ubuntu minimal install iso is currently bugged, best to wait a few days. But in regard to your idea, I would advise just running Debian Testing with i3, a much simpler process

What linux distros are light enough for a Pentium D?

>>57146164
All distros are light.
It's the DE that matters.

>>57146059
Need a super minimal easy distro. That doesn't hide stuff from me, yet has a sane defaults. Meaning I dont have to master kung fu for a proprietary intel wifi card to work.

>>57146083
The emacs tutorial is dry as fuck.

Here's some video tutorials a goi teacher made a few weeks back, they're pretty good for an overview and as a starting point for beginners:
https://cestlaz.github.io/stories/emacs/#content

>>57143599
Is there away that I can install linux without any of the gnu toolchain?

This way I can shit post about using linux without gnu

>>57146212

And in most cases the "overhead" of the desktop environment is minimal compared to the programs you're going to run like Firefox.

>>57146253
>super minimal easy distro
LFS/TCL/Arch/Gentoo
>Intel WiFi
Usually have good support by default.
What do you want to use it for?

>>57146253

>super minimal easy distro
Every distribution can be "minimal". "Easy" is relative.

>doesn't hide stuff from me
No distribution hides stuff from you.

>Meaning I dont have to master kung fu for a proprietary intel wifi card to work.
As long as you don't use a distribution which only accepts free software in their repositories, it will work equally the same on all assuming the same kernel is used.

In a bash script, how can I pass a switch to an already existing utility?

If I wanted to, inside of a bash script
cp -i arg1 "arg2"
How could I get the "i" to work as intended?
How about other switches for other commands?

Thanks

>>57146296

Why do you think Arch or LFS are more minimal than Fedora or Debian? What do you think minimal means?

>>57144890
sudo mkinitcpio -p linux

>>57144027
it have no fucking sense
* is anything so wtf
it will be redundant af
and it will make latter contradict the previous

you fucked logic mate

>>57146318
>What do you think minimal means?
Very few stuff to start with.
Personally, debian is one of the comfiest distros to use.

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Wouldn't the easiest way to dual-boot be if I bought a new HDD and used that solely for Linux? Or is there something that I'm missing here?

How do I prevent my gtk font overriding my i3 font?

>>57146423

>Very few stuff to start with.
Every distribution offers a net-installer, where you choose which packages to install and it downloads only them from the internet.
Stop spreading myths.

>>57146451

Your "GTK" font has nothing to do with your "i3" font. What are you experiencing?

>>57144357
Still not a free distro because they give you access to non-free faggotry.

Install Parabola GNU/Linux and release your freedom to the world.

>>57146445
yes, that's the easiest option. then you boot from the linux drive and use the linux bootloader to choose OS.

>>57146484
I have a font set in my gtk-3.0 settings.ini, and it causes the font I set in my .i3/config to be ignored.

>>57146296
I have an okay thinkpad (little older) so resources are limited, and because of proprietary IDE, for school, they chug lots of RAM, that I don't have.
the rest is pretty normal: text editing and browsing.

>>57146304
Minimal in the sense of not really much stuff. Easy meaning that you have a system that's ready to use, needing to only configuring few things.

>No distribution hides stuff from you.
Hide in the meaning, easy to configure. not having to use an application to change something while it could be easily made in a texted.

>>57146618

Ignored where? The font set in your i3 config only applies to i3, its titlebars and perhaps the taskbar. The font set in the GTK3 config applies to GTK3 programs, Firefox for example.

>>57146621

>Minimal in the sense of not really much stuff.
See >>57146466

>Easy meaning that you have a system that's ready to use, needing to only configuring few things.
That's an oxymoron together with your previous request.

>Hide in the meaning, easy to configure. not having to use an application to change something while it could be easily made in a texted.
That is not distribution specific, it depends on the program itself.

> GNU with Linux added awesome lists pasta:

https://github.com/aleksandar-todorovic/awesome-linux
https://github.com/awesome-lists/awesome-bash
https://github.com/alebcay/awesome-shell

>>57146621
>thinkpad
Generally linux have good support for the hardware.
Try lubuntu.
Or any WM.
What IDE?

How do I restart plasma 5.5.5 without shutting down my computer?

>>57146313
Don't really understand your question, so here a random solution, kek.

cpi.sh:

#!/bin/sh
cp -i "$@"

>>57146712
rude solution: kill X, it should take you back to the display managers login screen

but you could also just use the logout dbus

I installed ubuntu 16.04 two days ago and when I put the computer to sleep it won't wake up no matter what I do. I guess this is a kernel problem so I think I should install a newer one (I have 4.4 right now). Which one should I get? Will 4.5 be enough or should I go for newer ones?

>>57146822

Why didn't you install 16.10?

>>57146822
>won't wake up
kek

>>57146780

Reminds me of a question: What exactly happens when I hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE? It kills my X, but what command does it run?

>>57146847
Kill x??

>>57146847
It's the same thing as doing ctrl+alt+f2 or something like that, if you do ctrl+alt+f7 you'll get back.

(I think)

>>57146847
it actually restarts X

>>57146847
>tfw ctrl+alt+bs is disabled on noobuntu

>>57146902
People with a job don't need to fuck around with their OS.

>>57146842
I'm a noob, so I guess the LTS got to my eyes. Should I just upgrade?

>>57146917
>butthurt
>>57146902
setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

>>57146884
In fact, the combination kills X; it's systems dick which restarts X.

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so ive heard xubuntu is the nigger of *ubuntus, that devs are unprofessional and lazy to update things, how true is that? how is it compared to lubuntu?

>>57147082
they're all the same just with different de's. I don't understand why they pretend to be ubuntu forks.

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> Auto-rice pasta (generate colors/themes based on image source):

https://github.com/deviantfero/wpgtk
https://github.com/metakirby5/zenbu/
https://github.com/everett1992/wp
https://github.com/s-ol/themer

>>57147288
>>57146681
added, ty

>>57147288

>buys a 200$ state of the art screen
>makes it look all washed out most of the time

Ricers everyone.

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I decided to switch to a more trustworthy OS than I have now. I thought that I will buy Win 10, but then I quickly remembered that I do not want to pay ~100 euros to look at advertisments and be a part of data digging. (I can do that already with my pirated Win 7 - pic related). Although I would install Win 10 with its customer statistics mining and advertisments if it was balanced with the OS being free.

I didn't really care about that up until this moment. On this Windows I have never used Antivirus programs and I have pirated a considerable amount. Its safe to say that at this moment is am a part of thousands of botnets, accumulated from the time I installed this Win 7. Normally I would just reinstall the pirated OS whenever the botnets slowed my comp down too much. Now, I am soon founding a small company to develop some software and I think that this is the time to start worrying about security.

So far I have researched that Xubuntu might possibly be up my alley. (Using the resources provided in the OP) However, I am not Linux savvy enough to ask the correct questions. Is Xubuntu a good bet or is there smth else I must consider.

Also, AMA about using a literal critter infested botnet for my daily stuff.

>>57147672
>I am soon founding a small company to develop
>I seek advice on 4chan
Choose one and only one

>>57147782
Why not both
Where else can I get bantz.

Besides, 4chan does have some boards/generals that deal with that.

>>57147672
Xubuntu is good. Ubuntu and it's derivatives are a good starting place.

>>57147672
>those desktop icons
Ask me know I know you're 15 and full of shit

>>57147672
>business
Ubuntu.

What fonts do you guys use? (sans, serif & mono)

>>57147672
Please stick with Windows. You deserve each other. Linux doesn't want you. Go away.

>>57147987
What makes it a 15 year-old's desktop?

The fact that it is NOT all riced up? I thought that ricing is what you do when you are underage and grow out of as you get older.

>>57148180
Nah, bro.

I feel like the word linux is used instead of gnu because gnu is harder to communicate as "gnu" and not "new"

Has anyone ever tried linux from scratch? Can you share your experience?

I'm having to switch to google chrome because firefox is just way too buggy.

>>57148287
what bugs were you experiencing?
I use dev and nightly on my linux and windows partitions respectively, and I've never had any issues.

>>57147672
Something is wrong with you that desktop background, the botnet system, all them icons.

You're like seeking out viruses which is so weird as I go to great lengths to protect myself from them.

If I have 16.04 should I fresh install to 16.10 or is upgrading safe?

>>57148345
Stay on LTS

>>57148320
It might not be firefox desu. I think it has to dow ith my window manager and gtk. Basically when I open the window it'll hang as a black box for a few seconds before actually rendering the window. Same with closing or resizing it. This happens on chrome and any gtk graphical programs so ti's not specific to firefox i guess but is my main issue atm.

Firefox isn't quite as responisve as chrome albeit much better security and i Think if it's pretty hackable as for making it more responsive.

Main problem is the gtk black box shit. I'm using i3 wm.

>>57148360
Why?

>>57148379
I'm on xfce and never had an issue, so it's entirely possible that it's just an i3 problem.
Also, have you tried using a version of ff that supports e10s? It makes the browser much more responsive and snappier.

>>57148414
i found a fix which was to create a custom gtk css for windows or something -

.window-frame, .window-frame:backdrop {
 box-shadow: 0 0 0 black;
 border-style: none;
 margin: 0;
 border-radius: 0;
}

.titlebar {
 border-radius: 0;
}

.window-frame.csd.popup {
  box-shadow: 0 1px 2px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2), 0 0 0 1px rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.13);
}

What exactly is e10? I want an official build that is supported can I still have that?

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>>57148329
Don't worry about the desktop background - its just what a furry creature would "realistically" look like.

I am not really seeking out viruses. I just don't care. What the fuck are they going to use my information for anyways. If they want to personalize my "ads" then godspeed to them. For some reason, most of the stuff I like is quite niche and I usually find them by randomly stumbling on them. So, if their mighty customer data mine can advertise me actual things I would buy, then I would even be pleased. Lately Youtube has decided to show me ads, which are so much up my alley that I have even watched some of them till the end and visited their website to get the thing.

And my valuable data is pretty well protected. See pic. Every valuable action (acessing bank account, making payments, etc) can only be done while my National Identity Card is inserted into my card reader and at every step I am presented with multiple "Insert PIN" promts. And even if someone managed to get access to my bank account, I would first recieve a message on my phone asking if it is me who is acessing it or not. And in the end, there is really nothing to take at this moment of time.

can I get rid of systemd and replace it to alternative on arch gnu/linux?

>>57149139
https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/57wlkz/how_realistic_is_it_to_run_arch_linux_without/

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>apt-get install gentoo
>get this
I don't understand your meemers, It was pretty easy tbqh

>>57149587
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_(file_manager)#Name

I know you're probably joking

>>57149629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7N-nwIndZw

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Can you set up a full-fledged Linux system with networking, X, and some basic programs like Windows 95 had?

>>57149870
yes, you can even make it look like '95

Just installed Debian, what's the best way to switch from Firefox-ESR to the normal Firefox? Can I switch release channel or should I just uninstall and install?

>>57149902
And what should I do?
Can I do that with Slackware?

A question I have made a few days ago:

So basically, I was fucking around with Ubuntu, tried XFCE so I would decide if ditching unity was a good idea.

Seeing that I had tearing issues I just looked for compton, installed it, all good... except I noticed that dragging windows was fairly slow. It feels as though I'm just trying to physically drag it. There's some resistance that disappears of course, with no composition.

So, I tried compiz afterwards just to fuck around and... just like in Unity, dragging windows is fast. None of that slow bullshit. However, there's no tearing either, vsync is enabled.

So, does anyone know why this happens? I'm used to hear that compiz is terrible, shit and slow, and sometimes buggy. But compton be fucking with me. Any ideas?

>>57149870
https://www.reactos.org/gallery

>>57150070
How usable is reactos these days?

WHY THE FUCK IS ARCH WIKI DOWN?
I CAN'T CONFIGURE MY WIFI WITHOUT IT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Anybody know how to fix this.

I'm trying to install manjaro Linux but after i used rufus to burn a iso onto a USB and booted into it on my computer i got this

>>57150167
It's trying to open /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info but apparently, there's no such file or directory.

>>57150195
XD
>>57150167
at what point do you get that error after it boots?

>>57150167
seems like '/proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info' is no such file or directory.

Does it go into a dracut line after?
I've had issues like that when the USB is named differently than what rufus named it. Typically the iso-name minus .iso

>>57150167
Don't use rufus. Use Win32diskimager

How do I make a bash script inside another bash script?

What distros do people use for work computers?

I run arch at home, but my work computer is the LAST thing I want to fuck around with unnecessarily.

How is Xubunt/LUbuntu these days? Ubuntu base is cancer and I don't feel like dealing with Debian.

I've tried Fedora, and while I like it alot, the fact that I have to do some fuckery to install deb only packages is turning me off from it.

>>57150251
>how do I make a chair inside a chair

What you just asked doesn't make sense.

>>57150229
After it loads the Linux kernel in the introduction startup
>>57150240
It's just asking me whether i want to find it myself with rootfs
>>57150247
Ok I'll try

>>57150275
BTW Win32DiskImager only looks for .img files by default, set it to all types to open .iso files.

>>57143599
Never used Linux before. What are the benefits/costs of it compared to windows? Will most of my applications still run?

HOW LONG IS ARCH WIKI GOING TO BE DOWN FOR FUCK SAKE

>>57150070
Aren't we in the Linux thread?

>>57150382
>not installing gentoo
why?

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>>57150366

>>57150366
Benefits:

-You get out of the microsoft ecosystem
-You have a system that can be customized to your liking in more than a few ways
-Older hardware is better supported overall

Costs:

-Some of your windows programs might not run well on it
-You're more likely to run into stability issues with certain distros by just updating than you were probably with windows 7 two years ago having the common sense to use it properly
-Newer hardware might have some difficulties with support
-It is also likely that you will have to learn a lot of new things if you want a decent distro

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>Arch servers powerd by Arch (tm)
>kernel update
>everything breaks
>no wiki
>no forum
>no aur

how do i get loadkeys command

>>57150545
>>57150382

When did the wiki go down in was just on it?

>>57150560
>>57150520
get it to do what?

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>>57150545
those Nginx versions make me think they run debian

>>57150330
I formatted and used that program to rewrite the idk on the USB but im still getting the same problem

I don't have a disk drive is that means anything

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>>57150545
delet this

>>57150579
i dont have it
its not present
idk

>>57150601
Weird, it shouldn't be a problem.

Try an older version of that iso? Shouldn't give you a problem.

Otherwise, if you have a rooted android phone try using DriveDroid and downloading manjaro from there. Much better tool because you don't need to be formatting shit.

>>57146780
you could also do sudo pkill -u "username"
I use that to logout from i3 and awesome cause I haven't configured my WM much yet.

>>57150645
I don't know how you ended up not having one of the most basic tools
try to find out which package contains it

How can the i3 status bar be placed at the top of the screen instead of the bottom?

>>57150713
by RTFM-ing

>>57150713
in your i3config where it says statusbar put

position top

then restart.

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I want a laptop that can run Ubuntu without any issues and I was wondering if a Lenovo thinkpad SL400 could accomplish this?

Thoughts on Fedora?
Looks like a distro for serious people.

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>>57151018
This is bait.

>>57151018
newer packages than debian, not as new packages as arch. It's not ubuntu or mint. Stable and the community is actual helpful instead of reeeee'ing like the arch and debian users.

>>57151036
It's actually a hook.

>>57151067
>newer packages than debian
Stop giving advice when you have no idea man.

>>57151067
>not as new packages as arch
the fuck?
rolling is rolling

>stable
how is a beta testing distro stable?

>try installing a package on fedora
>can't; it's not there

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>>57150624

>>57151127
People with a job don't need to install random packages. Get out of your basement.

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is it just me or is manjaro easier to use than ubuntu or mint?

>>57151077
unless you run sid*

>>57151093
rawhide > testing > fedora > rhel

>>57150595
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&q=nginx&maintainer=&flagged=

>>57150545
>Arch servers powerd by Arch (tm)
>kernel update
>everything breaks
>no wiki
>no forum
>no aur
But you have all the newest packages. Just can't please some people.

so snaps still aren't working with an luks/encrypted home folder?

Is it just me or or is fmt broken?

fmt foo.txt outputs spaces in the same way as fmt -u foo.txt, which shoul uniform: one space between words and two after sentences, but it doesn't. ;_;

Newfag here. I'm looking to try a Linux-based operating system, but I'm kinda intimidated by the sheer number of them that are available.

Which one would probably be best for someone who's used Windows their entire life, and has very little knowledge as to how operating systems work?

>>57152328
https://distrowatch.com/

See right-column for rough popularity. Read descriptions for more info.

tl;dr Maybe try Ubuntu Mate.

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>>57152396
>See right-column for rough popularity.
Oh dear.

What's the best music player for linux?
A UI that heavily features album art would be cool but not completely necessary

>>57153318
The one I'm using.

>>57153318
I always just use pragha because it's included

>>57153318
I'm using computers since 1000 BC, and as far as I can tell, the best music player is mpd. A bit complicated at the first run, but once you set up hotkeys for play, pause, stop, next, prev, there's nothing more comfy than mpd. You can control it with mpc, netcat or just bash.

Then again, I find myself just using running mpv ~/mu/* because fuck mpd's autistic music database shit.

moc is cool too, TUI controls but without database autism. It was my first player before mpd + ncmpcpp, a combination everyone HAS to use.

All gui players are gay.
deadbeef is bisexual.

Thanks.

Should I install linux rawhide?

>>57143599
I would like to know the difference between ubuntu and debian, which one should install?

>>57153893
new? Ubuntu
experienced? Debian

>>57153863
yes

>>57153893
ubuntu holds your hand, makes things easier. i'd start with ubuntu for linux newbies, and move to debian once comfortable and familiar

>>57153893
Ubuntu = evil
Debian = good

How do I create a W10 recovery USB from Linux Mint? I fucked up my W10 partition earlier and Wine doesn't run the official tool.

what is a good distro for someone who wants to actually learn linux?
i have used various versions of ubuntu for about a month now but i feel like i haven't really learned anything
i'm not smart, but are there any distros that would be good for a learning experience? i guess the only requirements would be that it isn't too difficult to install/i could get it running with wifi and drivers and all without too much trouble

>>57153998
Keep using Ubuntu but use the terminal for everything apart from web browsing.

>>57153985
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO grab the iso from here then use rufus or something to usb it

>>57153998
Listen to this guy >>57154022
Don't fall for the Arch Linux meme.
Also read this book: http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

>>57153998
debian might be better for learning; arch is probably too advanced. like >>57154022 said, use the terminal more

>>57153998
I know it's used as a meme but install gentoo in a virtual machine following their handbook. Even if you fuck it up you'll still gain something from the experience.

>>57154085
Isn't Funtoo a bit more easy?

>>57153948
This might be a stupid question but you think that after reading The Linux Command Line ill be ready to use debian, or not by a single chance?

>>57154125
Debian isn't hard, it's just not as intuitive as Ubuntu. You'll have to RTFM to understand how it works, like how it doesn't include non-free software by default, what to do if want newer software, etc.

>>57154023
maybe i'm just stupid but i used UNbootin and it's not bootable

Vim users, I have set number and set numberwidth=1 in my vimrc and yet the numberwidth defaults to 4, as I can see from the :set numberwidth? command. Setting it manually from within the vim editor does correct that to 1, but I don't know where the 4 is coming from, do any elite vim users have any ideas?

>>57154181
Use rufus, not unetbootin. Unetbootin is notoriously bad at getting EFI and syslinux correct.

>>57154125
learn by doing; you could go straight to debian if you're not the type to get flustered and give up. man pages are very technical and dense, they can be hard on new users.
in short, if you're determined, go for debian sooner, if you're easily discouraged, stick with ubuntu until you're familiar with the basic shell commands and programs
btw, i recommend zsh for new linux users -- better to start with the best than to get familiar with tcsh or bash and have to make the switch after your bad habits are ingrained

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>>57143599
you are very welcome

>>57154125
you can still use the CLI on ubuntu, but debian forces you to use it more often

>>57154223
I tried it and it works for me, something must be resetting it.

>>57154223
are you loading a colorscheme or custom plugins? those could be overriding your value; also, an error earlier in your .vimrc could be preventing the rest of it from loading

>>57154273
>>57154280
Got it, apparently set nocompatible was doing it. Dunno what that actually does to be honest, just saw some dude saying you should add it in before you start messing with vim a lot.

>>57153774
I want something that looks/works like musicbee for windows

>>57154336
Oh, it was too late down my vimrc. Huh. Thanks anons.

>>57154336
>set nocompatible
that shouldn't be set in your personal .vimrc, only in the default system settings. it should default on, but turn off automatically if a .vimrc or .gvimrc is found in your vim home

>>57154336
compatible makes vim compatible with vi by disabling the vim features, nocompatible should be the default though, a lot of people still set it for some reason but it's not needed.

>>57154357
Actually

nocompatible

is implied when you have a vimrc at all, so it shouldn't make any difference if you do or don't have it at any point in your vimrc.

Ultimately it's unnecessary and pointless, but people have it in there because they just copy what they see others doing.

>>57154393
>but people have it in there because they just copy what they see others doing
That's actually horrible. I've seen so many vimrc's in people dots with settings which basically overwrite most of vims default functionality.

>>57154427
thats why there's <leader>

>>57143599
Is Red Hat a good first option to start?

>>57154522
Do you mean Fedora? Sure.

>>57150444
I did. Checked.

>>57154522
i had to use redhat at work for 5 years -- i much prefer debain-based distros (i use raspbian, xbian, and debian at home). fedora and centos are probably not as behind-the-curve as redhat, though

>>57154522
NSA, SystemD, Serious Business memes

shit guys
so im on debian and i was trying to disable that annoying beep
i blacklisted a bunch of stuff and now i can't hear anything on my headphones except that stupid beep coming from my PC internal speaker
help

>>57154735

#rmmod pcspkr

the # means you need root privileges

>>57154778
doesn't this blacklist pcspkr? I want sound back, not gone
idc about the beep anymore desu

>>57154799
pcspkr is the beep module, it just beeps
enable everything you disabled before and just disable pcspkr

lel canonical, disrespecting the freedoms to beep

# ugly and loud noise, getting on everyone's nerves; this should be done by a
# nice pulseaudio bing (Ubuntu: #77010)
blacklist pcspkr

>>57154812
I forgot what I disabled tho :(

>>57154836
kek

beep boop

>>57144043
Ubuntu is currently the first to be supported with drivers for rx 480.

>>57149870
AWWWW DAMN
I forgot to state "full-fledged Linux in 100 MB"

I'm looking for a bare minimum distro for a basic NAS-thing. I only need wake on lan, samba and ssh, nothing else matters. Wat do?

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Has anyone here ever used OpenSuse Tumbleweed? What were your thoughts on it?

>>57155071
Install Slackware

>>57155071
You could install FreeNAS and shit post in BSD general

>installing gentoo
>emerge-webrsync
>Fetching files takes literally forever
Is my mirror choice shit or what?

>>57155668
Install Gentoo.

>>57155672
For once this meme doesn't apply to me.

>>57155668
Yes, your mirror is shit. The Fetch is the DL process. If you picked a decent mirror it should be extremely fast.

Hi FGLT, next time I install GNUL, what should I install:

Fedora or Debian Stable? I like the idea of both, but I'm super curious. I'm going to sleep now, so I'll be await some replies.

Have a good night, everyone.

>>57155690
Everyone will laugh at you when you install Fedora and make hat jokes.

>>57155757
whats wrong with fedora?

>>57155774
>systemd

Why are Windows users are so dumb?

>adwaita comes with an officially dark version for gtk2 now

Neat.

>>57155690

You don't even know what you want and are asking cringe-worthy "versus" questions.
I hope you die in your sleep.

>>57155798
There is literally nothing wrong with systemd.

>>57156117
I thought gtk2 is deprecated.

>>57156015
Which OS is your mom using?

>>57156393
GNU/Linux, slackware

Which Distros are mostly free from SystemD and spyware crab?
I read KDE neon is going to use Wayland with 5.8 but it seems they changed their opinion and now it's only used for unstable? I can't make head nor tail of it.

>>57156495
you are dumb as hell

>>57156499
Yeah. That's why I'm asking, dumbfuck.

>>57149963
Anyone?

guys I need a quick and retard-proof way to SSH from Linux to Android and transfer files back and forth

least steps possible

>>57156603
just run an ftp server on the phone, there are ones available on f-droid which work well

there's also "primitive ftpd" which supports sftp if you think encryption is important (accessing over the internet?)

>>57156603
sshdroid on paystore works ok.

So I'm trying to make a sym link of eclipse to /usr/bin/ and get dmenu to recognize it as I start all my programs with dmenu. Problem is when I do

ln -s /usr/bin/ eclipse

The link I generate in /usr/bin/ is colored red, while everything else there is green, and dmenu cannot find it.
What am I doing wrong? Also I'm using Debian testing stretch with Gnome.

>>57156603
nc

>>57156707
run which eclipse
link the found path/to/eclipse to /usr/bin/eclipse

your current link is broken and links to the directory /usr/bin

>>57156714
mv

>>57156745
dd

>>57156726
So I have to do ln -s /usr/bin/ ~/eclipse/java-neon/eclipse/eclipse ?

Is Ubuntu 16.10 worth a shit or LTS time

>>57156761
sudo ln -s ~/eclipse/java-neon/eclipse/eclipse /usr/local/bin/

This should work.

>>57156816
Now I have the same problem as before, the link is colored red unlike the other ones who are colored green, and dmenu cannot find it/ doesn't recognize it.

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>>57156816
here an image, the green oney can all be found by dmenu unlike the red colored eclipse.

What do you use to take screencaps of 4chan posts?
Especially for those long green text stories.
I've looked bun only got 4chan archivers like this
https://github.com/bibanon/BASC-Archiver

>>57156868
lol move it into /usr/bin?
(I'm a noob)

>>57156904
SHIFT+F2 screenshot --fullpage

>>57156965
It's also red if I would have made a link to /usr/link/.

>>57156979
That's what I'm using currently.
I hide the replying posts and do that.
Just thought there might be something that phrase the thread for greentext and output it as an image.

>>57156868
could also put

export PATH=$PATH:~/eclipse/java-neon/eclipse

into your ~/.bashrc then log out or run dmenu from a newly opened terminal or whatever

>>57157002
I will try that even though I don't understand what it does, just because everything involving "ln" seems to fail.

How do I git gud at Arch really fast?
I want to know how to install it, install programs, rice it...the basics.

>>57157019
What it does is adds the path to your eclipse folder to your PATH, which is where shells look for executables. Any directory listed in your PATH will have its executables be runnable from anywhere by typing its name.

so here, let me explain all of it
export <-- exports the variable for the duration of whatever shell is reading this file (your bash shell)
PATH= <-- the variable you're going to export
$PATH <-- expands to your current PATH. You can see what it is by typing echo $PATH in a shell
: <-- separator for the directories in your PATH. If you ran echo $PATH above you will see there's a colon between each one
~/eclipse/java-neon/eclipse <-- the folder your eclipse executable is in

the ~/.bashrc file is sourced every time you open an interactive shell or log in from a display manager or whatever. If dmenu is ran after you've got a directory into your PATH, it will know to look there for eclipse.

>>57157059
Doesn't work.
When doing "echo $PATH" it finds that new path but dmenu still won't find it. ;-;

>>57157111

ls -l ~/eclipse/java-neon/eclipse/eclipse

Are you sure this is executable and not also a broken link or something?

>>57157118
What's the difference between -l and -s? Also yes, this is definitely the eclipse executable.

>>57157127
on ls? -s shows sizes, and -l shows extended info

>Also yes, this is definitely the eclipse executable.
So running ~/eclipse/java-neon/eclipse/eclipse results in eclipse opening?

>>57157156
Well I was until now, where the fuck is this executable?!

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>>57157208

>>57156511

You don't even know what systemd or spyware are, yet alone if systemd is spyware. You're just parrotting someone else's opinions, blindly trusting it and living your life according to it. Kill yourself.

The KDE Neon thing, is that a question? Because I don't see a question in here.

>>57156776

It has newer package versions.

>>57157001

Sounds like a nice programming exercise for you.

>>57157033

You install it and read the documentation. "Ricing" isn't Arch or distribution exclusive.

The eternal fucking question

Btrfs or ext4 on SSD

>>57157300
ext4

btrfs is a meme

>>57157286
>Sounds like a nice programming exercise for you.
I'm just learning python, with no previous knowledge in programming.
Will probably take a year or two to figure out.
Maybe BS to phrase the web page and use regex to select posts with ">" and imagemagic to create an image.

>>57157234
IT FINALLY FUCKING WORKS!
Thanks for the help Anon!

>>57157266
Yes, it actually is not known whether SystemD is spyware. BUT the fact that there are more plausible arguments against SystemD than supporting it makes you think. And if there are other alternatives which work as good as SystemD with a lesser risk of having spyware or else inside, why not use those alternatives instead?

To the KDE Neon part: I read they'll implement WaylandX isntead of SystemD with version 5.8. Now that 5.8 is released I couldn't find any information regarding that topic, except for the fact that the unstable/developers edition of KDE Neon will be without SystemD. Because I can't make head nor tail of it, I wanted somebody to explain whether the stable release uses Waylandx or not.
Also, my question still stands:
Which Distros are mostly free from SystemD and spyware crab?

>>57157477
>SystemD is spyware
What?

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>>57157635

>>57157477

>BUT the fact that there are more plausible arguments against SystemD
> lesser risk of having spyware or else inside, why not use those alternatives
>they'll implement WaylandX isntead of SystemD

This whole post is like a train-wreck of misinformation, lack of knowledge and general retardation. You're beyond help.

>>57157703

Oh, an image with some incoherent, subjective, anecdotal ramblings of a random person. I am convinced.

>>57157729
Then please enlighten me. What you describe as "misinformation, lack of knowledge and general retardation" is just formed out off various information and arguments I read online. Humans can change their opinion with additional information. Nobody who's open-minded is beyond help.

>>57157703
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read.

>>57157736
>>57157771
That's what everyone said before Snowdon when you talked to them about how we're spied on.
Also, there are still no counter-arguments heard, shills.

>>57150167
Use Lili LinuxLive USB Creator
http://www.linuxliveusb.com/download

>>57151154
mate, this looks awful

>>57157875
The wallpaper is a piece of shit but everything else looks okay.

>>57157823
xDDDD

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>>57157888
It looks awful.

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>>57158047
DELET THIS

>>57151154
Manjaro have nothingto do with how easy to use.
It's XFCE.
Also change your icons try menda.

Does anyone know of good mice that work well in linux? Specifically I need one that has good scrolling speed.

My current steelseries rival is very slow with scrolling, and the only way to make it faster is using imwheel which breaks things that are useful. I can edit firefox to scroll properly and also chrome if I wanted, but for other applications there's no way.

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>>57151154

That's ugly as fuck. Nothing personnel, kid.

hey kids, wanna new thread?

>>57158156
>>57158156
>>57158156

>>57157901
Looks fine to me