What is the best desktop environment and why is it xfce? pic related

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>>57100888
>he doesnt use windows 7

>>57100913
>using proprietary software
>having a valid opinion on technology

Get the fuck off the /g/nu + linux board

>>57100888
Xfce is literally a gimped version of gnome 2 with a different file manager.

>>57100958
You're using telegram m8
XFCE still a best though

xfce is the purest maximum comfy

>>57100888
That font looks ugly af jesus christ.
I couldn't stand looking at my computer for more than 5 min.

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It's Aqua.

>>57101140
Why did you assume that that post was OP?

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>maximum comfy

>>57101231
Because there were 2 posts and 2 IPs

>>57101231
>>57101297
3 posts*

>>57101185
by far

The best DE is none at all. Openbox master race reporting in btw

>>57102012
you have to switch when wayland becomes standard.

>>57102036
Not if you use Slackware :^)

>>57102129

Shame that Slack is now dead as the developer lost his job and cannot maintain it any longer.

>>57100888
>postulating an initial open ended question then changing the question to one that seeks validation for your own opinionated answer to the initial question disregarding that the initial question is open ended and has no definitive correct answer

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>>57102290
I guess he was a real Slacker

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>>57102290
nice lies there, buddy

>>57102129
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>57102036
But I use a FREE as in FREEDOM operating system. I don't have to use Wayland at all.

>>57100888
KDE is better.

>>57101123
Also now uses more resources.

MATE is by any measurement a superior desktop environment.

>>57102454
i mean, most people depend on alienbob's packages and he did get fired from ibm so his slackware repo productivity will likely take a hit.

>>57103519
the only big thing I get from him are multilib packages and he has a script for converting those from regular 32-bit packages. and he has updated several packages in his repos since the blog post about losing his job. and he is not the only major contributor, nor is he even the BDFL. and it's not like a distro where hardly anything is changed from upstream takes a lot of effort to keep up to date.

>>57103504
maybe if you think GNOME 2 was any good (it wasn't)

>>57103689
question as it's rare to run into an actual slacker on here

how feasible/smart is it to not install all of the slackware packages that come with their releases? like what if i don't want to install + keep updated everything that comes with it. i just want a system where i can compile my own vanilla kernel with patch sets of my choosing and run kde plasma 5, i don't want apache2 binaries installed and whatever else comes with slackware releases. is this silly to want when it comes to slackware?

I wish I could use XFCE in Windows :(((((((((((((((((((((((

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>>57103877
>Windows

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lxqt + i3

>>57103840
It is a little silly to want this when it comes to Slackware, the "everything + the kitchen sink" approach is one of the things that I personally like about it. That said, there are a lot of things you probably can do without and the package groups make it easy to not install some of the more acquired-taste stuff. I usually do not install the KDE group (if you want to use AlienBOB's ktown repo, you can't have the official Slackware KDE4 packages because they conflict), no emacs, no tex. For a server, no X. One thing I wouldn't recommend is going package by package through the groups during the install process, because it will take forever and you will probably mess something up the first time and have to scramble around looking for missing dependencies.

Many years ago I installed Slackware on an eeePC 701 with a 4GB SSD. The first time I tried doing this, I was really conservative with packages, if it sounded like I didn't need something, I just didn't install it because I was worried about running out of space. I ended up with a lot of missing dependencies. Rather than try and fix it, I reinstalled and kept every package from the L (libraries) group - didn't have any dependency issues.

I would suggest just going with the "menu" option when installing, it lets you deselect most of the optional software packages without letting you completely break the installation. If you know what you're doing, probably your best option. After installation, make sure the packages that you chose not to install are in the blacklist (or greylist with slackpkg+) so that they don't get auto-installed when you do full system upgrades.

>>57100888
It is XFCE because of thunar, ability to customize the panels, it's session manager and it's ability to set your own keyboard shortcuts for everything.

>>57100888
>why is it xfce
I just gave it a shot, and it doesn't appear there are any practical features specific to Xfce that aren't available to more lightweight DEs like LXDE. Hell, even a window manager alone can replicate much of the same functionality, plus some things that Xfce can't do. Xfce's built-in window manager can't even remember window positions.

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>>57104128
because you can't use thunar under any other DE or WM, you can't customize the panels in any other DE or WM, no other DEs have session managers and no standalone session managers exist, and you can't set keyboard shortcuts in any other DE or WM.

RIIIIIIIIIGHT

>>57104091
i gotcha, i'll probably fuss around with it in a VM to get a sense of how package management works with slackpkg+ and do the kitchen sink approach. in the end it doesn't matter that much what's installed as long as the services aren't automatically running, but it touches that special autistic part of my brain that there's a bunch of shit in my distro that i neither want nor need.

i would be going with the ktown repo so i'll avoid the KDE group at least. thank you

>>57104128
what's the practical purpose of a session manager? I can understand it when you would move from station to station but I don't get it now everyone uses a laptop.

Gnome 3 is the best DE. Not only does it have modern design but it ditched the deprecated xorg for Wayland.

>>57104212
xorg will not be truly deprecated for at least another decade

>>57104212
>Gnome 3 is the best DE

No.

>>57101297
Rekt

>>57104212
>Gnome 3 is the best DE
kek, you mispelled KDE or xfce

>>57104174
Slackware package management is mindnumbingly simple. slackpkg is just a really big shell script. slackpkg+ is a plugin for slackpkg that lets you configure additional third-party repos. As for services launched on boot, when you install you are given the option of which you want activated (some, like NTP, are turned off and not configured by default, others, like apache, are IIRC), and afterwards you just set the executable bit for the rc.d scripts you want started automatically. It's very flexible with regards to making changes to your init scripts as well. The thing I love most about Slackware package management is that configuration (/etc) files are packaged with a .new suffix, and slackpkg gives you the option of interactively merging the changes you made to a system config file with the changes added by a newer package. It's extremely intuitive, direct, and simple to use, and is great for when you have a lot of custom hacks.

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>>57100888
Why would I use anything but Gnome 3?
It just fucking works.

>>57104404
so should I go with slackware-current or use whatever the latest stable numbered release is? i have the feeling i'll be sourcing a lot of my packages from 3rd party repos so i'm not sure what's ideal

>The thing I love most about Slackware package management is that configuration (/etc) files are packaged with a .new suffix, and slackpkg gives you the option of interactively merging the changes you made to a system config file with the changes added by a newer package. It's extremely intuitive, direct, and simple to use, and is great for when you have a lot of custom hacks.

i was a big fan of this in gentoo as well, etc-update is great.

>>57104239
Xorg is going to be deprecated on desktops within the next 2 years.

>>57104541
good luck with that

>>57104541
I would argue against you, but now that Linux is drawn by the nose by Freedesktop.org I believe you.

>>57100888
>pic related
I hate this trend of "pic related" and not showing a pic related
this is not xfce, this is Chromium.

Show the desktop, the file manager, the setting panel, the menus... show us xfce, not a browser that can run on any OS.

>>57104489
what have done for years is install -current over the network. put this:
http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackware/slackware64-current/usb-and-pxe-installers/
on the smallest usb stick you can find, then in the installation menu for source select http server, the url you want is probably
http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackware/slackware64-current/slackware64/
but it makes you do the host and path separately so first you have to put
http://mirrors.slackware.com
then
/slackware/slackware64-current/slackware64/
then it will just download whatever the latest version is of everything.
then after you reboot get sbopkg and slackpkg+, set up your repos, start adding packages. There are already scripts available with the slackpkg+ release (in the doc directory I think) that automate setting up multilib and ktown.

Oh, if you want GRUB you have to install it from /extra, Slackware uses LILO by default.

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>>57104630
>Slackware uses LILO by default
wtat the actual fuck

>>57104658
What's wrong with LILO? It just werqs...

>>57104683
Development stopped. It's abandonware.

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>>57100888
Gnome 3 is pretty nice

>>57101271
This looks really good

>>57104702
well, it's been less than a year since development was stopped.. and it still works perfectly fine for simple setups. and didn't GRUB have some huge vulnerabilities exposed last year? I know LILO, I understand LILO, I get what I need out of LILO. Why change? It's the Slackware Way.

>>57104704
>Gnome 3 is pretty nice

Yeah if you like tons of wasted space and next to no options on anything. It's dumbed down to Apple-tier.

>>57104974
What wasted space?

>>57104704

Ever notice the more it looks like OSX the better it is?

XFCE good tier
Mate great tier
Cinnamon god tier

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>>57101271
>mfw arch has the worst procedure for installing trinity
what a load of bullshit
gonna go try some meme OS just because of it

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>he doesn't customize his zsh

>>57101271
Good god this is atrocious

>>57106156

still looks better than windows 10 ui tho

>>57100888
your messianic trips aside, it's clearly MATE

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>>57106156
perhaps you prefer this?
>SPOOKY GHOST IS SPOOKY

>>57106384
what the fuck are those numbers in the top right corner for?

also what distro

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>>57106402
Mouse odometer :^)

>>57106513
kek
>that penguin on the panel
So how much of a pain in the ass was it to install this?

>>57106513
>using the smiley with a carat nose

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>>57106038
>>57106547
For a year, the only "unofficial" procedure for installing (building) it on Slackware that I could find was painful just to read. Trying to actually build it was even worse. Then I found someone who built it already and managed to install it. It's 14.0.1, so at some point I have to build the latest release myself.

>penguin
AMOR. One of the things I missed about using KDE back in the day. Also have the Beastie, as well as the Bill sprite from XBill.

>>57106571
i've been using the carat nose smiley for two decades, m8. wanna fight about it?

windowmaker master race

>>57104702
>Development stopped

What's your point? Unless LILO has some glaring flaws that need to be addressed, it doesn't matter.

I remember back in the '90s fucking around with Enlightenment DR16. That was a comfy as fuck WM. It's a shame 17 turned out to be shitty vaporware.
https://youtu.be/S6IlazonteM

>>57106733
Isn't Pat is the maintainer now?

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>>57100888
Best DE is no DE

>>57107631
/thread

>>57107631
>memewm
>meme distro
>transparent terminals
>fapping to anime girls
you get points for cacaview though

>>57100888
>and why is it xfce?

I used to be just like you, and then I grew a dick, a brain and a heart. I also discovered Fluxbox.