Why don't people like Unity?

>>57080532
People don't like loonix in general. Can't blame them since it was just a hobby OS created for users to rice it as much as possible and post their desktops somewhere on the web.

>>57080545
I'm asking more why Linux users (people who do like Linux) don't seem to like Unity.

coz its detected atm just like aimware

Touchscreen desktop designed by hipster millenials.

>>57080552
Probably because it limits how much they can rice their desktop thereby giving them less street cred in desktop threads.

>>57080532
Because /g/ hates thing that work and too user friendly, like watching kids cartoons
But at the same time, Debian is one of /g/'s favorite distros along with Gentoo
It's still the best beginner friendly distro along with Sabayon and Linux Lite

But anyway, it's just an opinion so i hope you don't listen to some strangers on an American Imageboard owned by a Japanese

>>57080532
They hate change. Unity is a fairly stark change from most DEs. If you don't bother to try and adjust it's inefficient.

>>57080532
The Unity dash is a poorly executed abomination and it used to be slow as fuck. The dock is ugly because of the way it handles icons. Hopefully Unity 8 will fix that because it's actually a decent DE otherwise. I use it.

>>57080554
Tfw want to cheat but too lazy to level a smurf acc to be able to mm

>>57080532
It's ugly and feels too much like Mac OS.

>>57080532
My question is who -does- like it?

It's been nothing but a pain in the ass since the day it was introduced. I have never once seen anyone who spends much time with a computer use Unity as their primary DE.

At this point it seems like it's just plain stubbornness for Canonical to continue to push it.

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>>57080532

>>57080742
Unity is far better than Aqua. However, I agree that Unity's looks are holding it back.

>>57080545
I have trouble believing thats the intended purpose.

Unity does ui scaling better than any other DE, including windows and mac

>Why don't people like Unity?

too much waste of ressources

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Is this the new Desktop thread?

>>57080777
I like it and spend most of my day on a computer. It's ugly but very usable. Gnome 3 feels incredibly forced though.

>>57080777
I like it because it maximizes screen real estate by integrating fullscreen windows' title bars into the menu bar. There are aspects of it that are a pain in the ass but no more than any other DE I've tried.

>>57080561
so many buzzwords

>>57080802
>KDE
>ever

>>57080532
Unity embraced by the same people who crucified Windows 8 Metro. Go figure.

>>57080961
>Hates KDE
>Is a retard
Checks out

>>57080973
If it helps any you should at least consider installing a different icon theme, like Paper or Numix or something. Also consider ricing your terminal.

>new global, disappearing menu
>lack of normal/standard/everyone-knows-it window switching
>retarded unmovable menu with inconsistent click actions, hidden right click actions and many other idiocies
>global, slick looking (this is very important!) menu, which is freaking useless unless you learn every app's name in the entire distribution

ubuntu+unity was the first distro i tried and it almost completely turned me off linux in general because i hated everything about it.

>>57080802
>mint
>amd
>emilia

unity might have actually become good if they didn't decide to start over with unity 8 to make it more mobile-centric in a desperate attempt to eat into some of android's phone sales.

It's ugly, and not as user-friendly as Gnome.

>>57081031
>unity might have actually become good if they didn't decide to start over with unity 8 to make it more mobile-centric in a desperate attempt to eat into some of android's phone sales.
I want a Desktop computer. I have an Android smartphone. I don't want any OS that tries to bridge the two. Fucking Hipsters. Please kill yerself.

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>>57080545
>>57080571
These.

>>57080777
I like it. I switched when KDE decided to go to to the bug-ridden shit that was 4.0, 4.1, 4.2. Honestly even the best plugins for 3.5 were still buggy shit.

I never liked Gnome because it had menus that were not very configurable. Today's Gnome might be better in that respect, but Unity essently bypassed the whole issue by including a dock. Unity is very stable in my experience and the default keyboard shortcuts are pretty comprehensive. Best Linux DE IMO.

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>>57080532
I have no idea.

Probably because of old memes that are no longe true in the newer versions.

Unity is more stable and lightweight than before and without the amazon bullshit.

>>57080532
I'm a statistical programmer and mostly use R. My memory is very precious to me and unity uses a lot of it. So I use openbox instead.

>>57081549
Memory is dirt cheap.

>>57080585
It wasn't "just works" in the early years. Even today steam have to make workarounds to use on their testing environment. also:
Gnome2 was better.

>>57081554

Ever used R? Im working with a computing cluster at my research facility and they even warn you about using R because of its memory management.

>>57081600
Something something diminishing returns

>>57080532
I like it, don't know why anyone wouldn't. Most people who don't like it were either older Linux users who witnessed unity at it's worst and never really wanted to change desktop environments, or newer Linux users who were memed into believing it's bad.

>>57081554
Yeah, but I'm already maxxed out. I'm working with pretty large datasets as it is. I need to learn Spark.

>the overlay is, in my opinion, a crappy start menu substitute and takes up way too much space
>resource hogging for no good reason
>GTK is a disparage between what the retards at GNOME think looks good and what 3rd parties are doing with the toolkit, leading to some windows using the bigger titlebars and others not and looking immensely retarded

Xfce is the best right now, and Lxqt will be the final solution to this desktop issue.

>>57080532
because it looks the same for the last decade
also it looks horrible compared to W10 or OSX
btw that default wallpaper is hideous

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unity is comfy

>>57081542
2clocks/10

>>57080585
>like watching kids cartoons
But /g/ is filled with anime fans

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but i do

>>57080532
>Relies on buggy as fuck Compiz
>Can't even customise font in Dash

>>57081808
theme and icons pls?

>>57080532
Unity is cool. A little buggy, but Cinnamon is far superior.

>>57080590
>They hate pointless change.
FTFY

Change just for the sake of change is just as bad as being afraid of change. If you are going to do something completely differently then there should be a good reason for it. Unity lacks that reason.

>>57080532
What kind of question is that? Just look at it.

>>57080532
Unity from a user perspective is not bad, but it isn't really great either. I have trouble coming up with real unique qualities to be found in unity's design.

* It is not very pretty-looking. Of course it can made to be so, but what can't?
* It is not very efficient or intuitive from a usage perspective. As someone who's now used to the power of a tiling wm I think it's safe to say that Canonical haven't exactly revolutionized UX here.
* This also includes the fact that they haven't really dared to leave old and stupid paradigms in desktop UX. They still use `Alt+F4` to close windows and there are a lot more binds using `Alt+something` for core functionality.
* Meanwhile, you can press `super+m` to invert colors for the whole screen. Great prioritizing, Canonical.
* Speaking of efficency, this DE also way too ressource-hungry considering it doesn't really look that good or offers that great an experience.
* The launcher and the top task-bar waste a *huge* amount of screen space without really exposing a lot of functionality.
* The dash is nothing more than a needlessly complicated program launcher/document opener but did an okay job at that, to be fair. At least how I experienced it.
* The normal Desktop Environment apps are nothing to write home about either. The [control-panel-thingy](http://distrowatch.com/images/screenshots/ubuntu-11.10-settings.png) looks like [any other linux-control-panel thingy](http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/desktop.jpg), as does the file manager and most other things. No wonder as most of these apps probably aren't original software.
* Leaves us at the gtk theme and the icons. Again, not really pretty so kinda defeating the point. Other people have done way better.

>>57081808
that better be WINE'd Office 2015 with these icons.

>>57080545
FPBP

>>57082574
oranchelo icon pack
adapta theme
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/install-adapta-gtk-theme-on-ubuntu

>>57080532
It's not I don't like unity, it's just mate is faster, gnome is prettier, and kde is more customizable. Unity just site somewhere inbetween the three with no advantage to me.

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>>57080532
>ugly
>does that shitty thing mac does and rips the menu off of a window and integrates it into the system menu at the top
>even does that poorly, where half the program menu is fade hidden
>taskbar on left: Always there taking up space, always ugly, tiny triangle to indicate a program is ruining
>shitty virtual desktop ui
>integrated Amazon spying search

Last time I tried was a couple ago, but the screenshot looks like nothing has changed since then

>>57082527
it looks like gook pet slaughterhouse

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>>57081808
It definitely becomes comfy after changing the ugly outdated theme and icons

>>57080532
Ugly

>>57085100
>related
related to what you fucking mutt

>>57080532
Amazon spyware and keyloggers built into it

>>57080585
>Unity
>Just works

Not even today does it just work.

It's an astonishingly bad piece of software all around.

>Why don't people like Unity?

Because my fucking desktop isn't a smartphone nor do I wish it to be.

>>57080545
>Linux
>OS
kek

>>57085442
what's wrong with that?
you can buy something an it remember your passwords for verycrypt containers with furry anime

>>57082744
>linking images
>using * instead of greentexting
You have to go back.

>>57080545
>never worked in tech ever

Because it tries so hard to make it hard to get any work done.

They took a few good ideas from OSX and from other DEs, then took most of the bad ideas too.

>>57085708
It's copied from a reddit post.

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unity is comfy

Unity 8 tech preview already looks promising in 16.10

>>57080532
Bacause most loonix users are spergs that can't stand a user friendly interface.

>>57080802
weebdesktop0927.png

>>57082759
Can you even WINE 2015? Last I cheked the most recent you could use with WINE was 2007

>>57085896
At least change the GTK theme you cuck

>>57080532
The dock takes up too much space.

I don't know if you can make it smaller though. That's what I didn't like about it. But maybe it's more customizable now, idk.

>>57080532
Jesus Christ, you ask this question everyday? WTF is wrong with you? Same old shitpost.

>>57086667
You guys don't set your docks to autohide?

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>>57085437
Related to the OP you retard.

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>>57086342
>sees wallpaper thread on 4chan
>how can I seem more retarded?
>oh shit, anime

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>>57086667
The launcher icon size slider adjusts that, goes down to 16 pixels.

>>57080532
I don't like it because of the lack of personalization and because the window grouping on the panel is shit.

>>57080552
Linux only user here. I used to love GNOME because one has to to be cool. But after time goes by I don't need to be cool anymore. I tried Unity and just love it

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Pïc related is why it's hated, /g neets can't allow a DE to be usable and efficient.

>>57087138
Don't really want to defend Gnome here, but I would hope Gnome users would at least use the shell extensions that fix their problem with vertical space. That is what Gnome 3 is all about, isn't it? Using extensions in order to overcome terrible design decisions.
I do quite like the way Ubuntu handles the window decorations and application options by default, and when I was using Unity I had the taskbar set to autohide, which made it much more bearable.

>>57080532
i want a normal menu and not that win8 like stupid thing.

I use the thing because it works, animations don't lag like gnome 3.22 on my system and it can still be customized to a degree.

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>>57087026
>I don't like it because of the lack of personalization
It is just that you don't know why. Try compizconfig-settings-manager
>and because the window grouping on the panel is shit.
Can you bring an argument? What is wrong with holding win key a second and getting a help screen? Or holding win key and key 1,2,3.. and then ALT+^ ? Unity is perfect. You just have to know how to use it. What desktop do you prefer and how is it better?
>>57087641
I dont know win8 or any other win but how is unitys menu not normal? See webm how I open an app. just as an example how swwet it is to work with unity

>>57088502
>It is just that you don't know why
not "why" but "how"

>>57081542
Nice theme

>>57085405
Flatabulous is awesome

>>57080532
its a metro design for linux

its retarded, also icons look shit, flat design (early 2015 look), retarded dock on left side,
its fucking ugly and unusable

>>57088730
>icons look shit
1. It is just icons. How else should they look like? I am glad they are not round as in macosx or some websites. Looks like steam punk or something
>flat design (early 2015 look)
I don't get what you mean
>retarded dock on left side
I like it on the left side. But you can put it where ever you want
>its fucking ugly and unusable
It is not. GNOME and KDE are much more unusable and I used both of them for several years

My only issue with it is the launcher. I'm used to classic shit. Otherwise it works perfectly fine.

>>57080875
Wallpaper?

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>>57086853

>>57089382
>I like it on the left side. But you can put it where ever you want
when did that change? the location could not be changed few months ago..

>>57080545
/thread
should've ended here

>>57080532
Why does UNITY 8 not work in Virtualbox? I've never gotten it to work, no matter how much shit I changed.

>buttons on left side

>>57089382
Kde has an actual task bar, its 100x times more usable than unity.

Thing is atleast they could have made it not to be an eye sore. Everything with unity, colors, sizes and shapes, and that contrast is so ugly. It looks like those shitty 1950 posters

>>57089964
I'd rather have something that doesn't choke with vsync enabled.

>>57090044
Have some post 2010 hardware then

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>>57090209
Shit I don't know, this was released in late 2013.

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>>57087138
What this guy said: >>57087504

The Maximus NG extension removes the top bar when windows are maximized. Not as much room saved as Unity, but clearly an improvement over the default.

>>57080777
I like it and I spend most of my waking hours (80%) in front of it. I like it and it handles window management quite well ootb. Plus once you get used to it both the dash and the HUD are really helpful and I couldn't imagine not having them. I must admit that it's really ugly by default, though. The colour scheme and the icons are just fugly. Luckily that's easily fixed with paper icons and flatabulous theme.

>>57080875
I just installed Ubuntu. Can you tell me how to make it look like this? The very least point me in the right direction, thanks.

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>>57090797
Install the "Unity Tweak Tool Software" (Google how to install it if you don't know), which allows you to change the icons and the window decorations. I personally like the Paper Icon Theme and the Flatabulous GTK theme. The guy in the screenshot used the Numix Circle Icon theme and the Arc Darker GTK theme.

If you google those themes you'll find step-by-step guides how to install the icon themes from PPAs (personal, user-maintained software repositories which allow you to update the themes with your package manager) or by just copying the theme files in the right folder in your /home/ directory.

What I did when I started my Linux journey was to just google everything like "paper icon theme ppa" and then "how to install from ppa" and now all the basic tasks are a breeze for me.

Pic related is how my desktop looks.

B O T N E T

>>57090957
Thanks, anon. Is there any way to swap the panel with something that looks a little sleeker?

Is there any way to change this shit? At the biggest icon size you can only view four picture at one, which is retarded. I have like 2k images.

>i'm a windows 10 guy
>install debian on my pies withoud DE (raspbian and ARMbian) since they are server
>months later, I find Debian cool and want loonix on my desktop
>try a bunch of distros on virtualbox to find the best (Elementary, Mint, Debian, Ubuntu, with Gnome, Cinnamon, KDE...)
>finally go for the good ol' stable Debian, with Cinnamon
>some problems to install programs with fucked up dependencies on obscure repos, but I'm okay with that
>install noobuntu on my computer illetrate mother's PC
>damn it's actually nice
>install Ubuntu with Unity on my computer
>nice and comfy

>>57091012
Hmm, try running this command from terminal

>sudo apt-get install kubuntu-full

>>57091012
The panel on the left? You can change the colour and size of the icons or you can have it autohide, but you can't remove it. If you don't like it, you should have a look at the GNOME DE with the Dash to Dock extension or MATE with Plank. Both MATE and GNOME are there own standalone desktop enviroments which you can install on any Linux installation (on yours also, or you can install a Ubuntu flavour that comes with it preinstalled Ubuntu Gnome and Ubuntu MATE, in this case).

Hope this helps.

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>>57091081
Thanks.

>>57091058
Thumbs up on moving from Windows to GNU. More freedom!

Thumbs down for moving from Debian to Ubuntu. Less freedom.

>>57091092
Post bottom right

>>57091114
Only if you answer my question :^)

>>57090957
This is the problem with Gnome shell, they expect you to use 3rd party extensions to make their DE usable so they don't have to answer for bad design desitions and feature removal.

>>57091012

Do this if you want a full KDE desktop (>>57091068)
I hate it and think it looks like a tacky and worse Windows rip-off but maybe it fits your tastes better than unity.

The best thing about Linux is that you can install any desktop environment on your Ubuntu installation with just a simple command and just pick which one you want when you login to your PC. If you're completely clueless about what you're doing, maybe read guide on how to do what you want to do though and go by that.

>>57091131
admittedly, MATE has all of this stuff integrated into the DE, which I find a lot nicer, but then again changing the cursor design is buggy as hell on MATE so I guess the good comes with the bad.
I would prefer these features were built-in but the third-party solution just werks for me, so I find this acceptable.

>>57091081
>>57091138

I think I found one I liked, called Plasma. I'm assuming any Linux DE works with Ubuntu as well? Stupid question maybe but better safe than sorry.

>>57091332
Plasma is the name for the latest version of KDE, and yeah it's on Ubuntu. For the best experience, you should look at Kubuntu or KDE Neon.

>>57091332
Yes, you can install it on any Ubuntu installation. Just use this command :

sudo apt install plasma-desktop

to install only the desktop environment or use this command here >>57091068
to install all the default programmes, too.

However, there could be some bugs that come with installing Plasma over your existing Unity install that I might not know about, so better follow a guide. Or if you can be bothered, do a reinstall of Linux with a fresh Kubuntu iso. Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE Plasma (K Desktop Enviroment) preinstalled. This way you can be 100% sure everything works as intended and you won't have any duplicate programmes (like 2 text editors and 2 music players).

>>57087138
Seriously, Gnome's top bar is so fucking hideous and useless, and they managed to make it even worse by adding ridiculous amount of extra margin/padding to title bars on their default theme. What were they thinking?

>>57091492
Hmm, I typed in the command, let it run and rebooted, everything seems the same.

Screenfetch stills says my DE is Unity.

Any ideas?

3 times the ram needed for Plasma 5
50% more watt usage compared to Plasma 5

And Plasma 5 is supposed to be the "most bloated DE"

>>57081542
Wallpaper?

buggy, broken mess