Startups

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>Shitty startups
>GNU tards/Winfags
>Literal autists
>Scruffy people
>Stinky air

>>57058663
I prefer this one desu...

>>57058622
>Beautiful people

Beautiful or competent, pick one

>>57058622
You forgot the order/"disorder" balance.. very important thing if you want to pretend that this is a working space where creativity, technology and beautiful people combine each other...

i'll take a cubicle and a linux machine over that "open workspace" any day

i feel more comfortable when I have a semblance of privacy, and it helps me work

Guess which one makes money and which one goes under in six months because it makes zero profit and Starbucks is 60% of their operating expense?

>>57058622
Which one turns a profit?
I'll work at the one that's going to be relevant in 5 years, cubicles or not.

That said, open offices are horribly distracting. I'm not sure how people get any work done when people are yelling across the room at each other.

OP's pic also looks like they'd have no idea about netsec. I expect for all their info to be stolen within 2 years.

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>>57058622
>not having your own private space for doing actual work

>>57058833
Holy fuck I remember having those street lights in my classroom back in 1st grade, they went to red if the noise in the class was high enough.

>>57058833
It seems that you never had to clean by yourself a room in your fucking life... other way you wouldn't have all that fagot shit...

>>57058879

this is far more orderly than the average cs professors office

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>>57058864
>they went to red if the noise in the class was high enough
do you get very quiet now every time you're at an intersection?

>>57058622
>unfocused
>distracting environment
>no privacy

>>57058663
>cubicle helps focus
>cubicle minimize distractions
>cubicle increases privacy

>>57058906
maybe...

>>57058879
not my office though
http://www.tema.ru/eng/use/place2.html

I tried working for a startup. It sucked. They expected me to do all sorts of shit that wasn't in my job description because "We're family here" and "Well we don't have anyone else to do it."
Never again.

>>57058740
My old boss had the best setup:

His office was in a separate room attached to the shop, so to get to his office you had to walk through the shop, and then to his desk.
He put a magnet switch on the door that would play if you opened it, and had a camera pointed at the doorway.

The ultimate in privacy and control.

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>>57058690
>Beautiful or competent, pick one
>or
Bad company, anon?

>>57059021
>I spew shit java that crashes every 3rd time you attempt to run it

She's pretty cute desu. I'd date her no matter what disgusting programs she wrote.

>>57059021
First time I've ever seen a 3d delicious brown. Cute.

>>57058622
>Modern startup
I love these businesses. They spend a shit ton on Macs and iPhones and when they inevitably go under in 6-12 months, I buy it all at auction and resell it.

>>57058663
Cubicles are the best

>>57058622
I had a chance to work in such environment.
Never again.

>Millennials (Worst. Generation. Ever.)
>No way to concentrate (I was wearing my headphones 9 to 5 to even try to do basic tasks)
>Constant noise
>Stupid ass jokes flying around (hurr durr Pokemon Pikachu lulz)
>Slack (fuck you and your fuckin reaction gifs)
>Daily standup meetings (fuck yooooouuuuu)
>Mail (spam, memes, spam with memes all day every day)

Hard to believe but I miss my sysadmin days (T_T)

>>57058663
Great comparison, Anon. Really, totally not bait.

One picture is practically a stock photo and the other is an old image from 2003.

Nice bait mate

>>57059365
>Millennials (Worst. Generation. Ever.)
Triggered.
>I miss my sysadmin days
We all like to bitch and moan, but deep down we know that we would hate more interaction with people.

>>57058622
People likes macs but they "just werk." No thought involved, they will work well until the hardware fails. Startups like this because it means they don't have to keep someone on retainer to fix things. Bigger companies can afford this easily, so windows pc start to make sense then. It also makes sense for people who aren't afraid to build their own desktops which is an ever declining demographic in this generation of instant gratification.

At the local vocational school for programmers there are half-cubicles for every student. This was done for two reasons: limit distractions and to prepare students for a stringent work environment. Now, because these were only half cubicles, they were only half as effective as real cubicles and, as a result, weren't very good at preventing memeing. We call it memeing because these were kids in junior to senior years who would poke their heads out of their work areas to tell their neighbors about stupid memes.

>>57059476
>We all like to bitch and moan, but deep down we know that we would hate more interaction with people.
That's why I left, had to do 1st line as well (for SEVEN FUCKIN YEAAARRSSSS)
Plus my boss was a PMS-raged lesbian that pushed me and my other 2 colleagues out of the company.

>>57058622
Neither of those images look like startups. What startup actually uses cubicles? None

I work for a startup, beautiful people/office, macs everywhere, and it's all open. AMA

>>57059539
How do you avoid killing yourself, when you are forced to interact with all of your co-workers all day long?

What do your startup do, and how long have you been employed there?

>>57058901
his point is that if the original dude has ever had to vacuum his own carpet hed at some point get rid of all that useless crap there because it only makes you do more work with cleaning up so he suggested that he has someone else to clean the room for him

>>57059539
>AMA
when are you running out of angel investor money?
what's your boss' plan for when that moment comes, will he run away to the caymans, or hong kong, etc?

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>>57059365
>>Millennials (Worst. Generation. Ever.)

So you're either:
>over 40 (lol old man on 4chan)
>under 18 (b&)
>le wrong generation (faggot)

>>57059547
I'm only really forced to interact with other devs, and they're friends from previous jobs so I don't mind them. Everyone else I'm just really rude to when they try to talk to me, so I'm generally left alone. Sometimes the office gets noisy and I have to wear headphones but it's not that bad generally.

My startup built an app. I've been there for almost a year doing backend dev work. We're still very small and you've probably not heard of us.

>>57059560
We have one rich guy who is just indefinitely funneling money into the company. I suppose one day he could just decide to cut his losses and fire us all, and there's nothing we can really do about it.

>>57058622
Moot works in a shittier place.
>macs
>no privacy
>moot is the only beautiful person
Google, but startups are hellhole under the cute shell, so it's better to have a boss, who already made his/her fortune.

>>57058622

>Building manager in Seattle Area for several 10+ Story buildings
>Kick startups out on a monthly basis for not paying their rent

There is actually an entire industry popping up here for just cleaning out office space post renter. The startups fail and they just leave all their shit around. It's becoming a bit of a problem.

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>>57059560
Why almost all startups are hoax?

>>57059647
>hoax
you mean scam

>>57059563
No, im 30. That's why I know.
Now fuckoff back to your Cow a Doody

>>57058622

Only work for a startup if they contract something out to you. Never become an employee of one. They are all overworked and underpaid on promises that they will share in the success of the project which rarely comes. I do freelance sysadmin work, get job offers all the time from startups.

>>57058622
>Bunch of worthless fucking hipsters on worthless shit ass gimmicky electronics pretending to do work crammed together so they never shut the fuck up about how epic they are

Fuck off

>>57058622
I notice you didn't list salaries anywhere there, senpai

(Startups pay jack shit)

>>57059021
>linkedin
>Ruby on Rails back-end

Do I need to say anything else ?

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>>57058622
>Comfy environment
not comfy IMHO
>Beautiful people
who cares
>Beautiful offices
sweat shop style
>Macs everywhere
Macs everywhere
>Modern startup
aka 90% chance of failure in the next quarter

>>57059779
So you didn't kode with Karlie.

>>57059682
So you are admitting to being a mellinial then?

OP forgot the key difference
>>57058622
Startup for some random trap anal plug
>>57058663
Startup for the next big software company

>>57058833
hard of hearing anon?

Underachieving individualist twats.

Every fucking time.

I rather see my tax money go to welfare checks than have to witness ""STARTUPS"".
Stop pretending you work, or even less innovate anything.

>>57059766

This shit...

The best part is they want all these qualifications but want to pay $30k/year. I literally made more than that when I worked at Home Depot driving forklifts ($19/hr).

>>57059779
I'd rail her back-end, if you know what I mean.

>>57058622
comfy...

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>>57058622
hipster bros wanking each other every day and begging for money on kickstarter at the end of the day.
>>57058663
actual work getting done

>"Hey dude, check out our startup! We hold weekly craft beer tastings and our meeting room has a ballpit. We're nothing like those old-fashioned stuffy boring software companies!"
>"What's that, you're not willing to work 10 hours a day on weekends? At our company we only want people with PASSION, or you're nothing to us. See me in the ballpit in 10 minutes."

>>57058622
That's a qt. Who wears a skirt to work anymore?

When I think of startup girl I imagine a dyed-haired always-wears-jeans kind of girl.

>>57059682
You ARE millenial.

>three person office
Confy except when you have two colleagues that are always on the phone, coughing and have 90 dB voices

>>57060111
>If you aren't willing to be at work 80 hours a week playing in our fucking ballpit and slides then you aren't a good fit because I spent my parents money on all this worthless trash I need to make it back FAST

>>57058864
Wouldn't modern children just try to keep it red all day long to oppose authority?

>>57058622
A desk should be used for serious work, not showing off what homosexual products you have

>>57060111
>>57060301
>tfw 40/h week government job
I dislike bureaucracy, but the comfy hours are worth it.

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>>57058622

>>57058622
Those are stacks of recipe/cooking books on the nearest desk. Is this like one of those random article publisher website startups to farm Pinterest clicks?

Looks like they got all their stuff from Pier-1, Bed and Bath, and Michael's.

>>57060382
>BOI LIGHTHOUSE

>>57060411
https://www.tastingtable.com/
http://mashable.com/2013/06/24/startup-office-design/#Rzno_Cy2PmqX

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>>57060467
http://everyfuckingwebsite.com/

>>57058622

>working for a startup at all

Also just a friendly reminder that no one does real work on macs. Like ever. period.

Also connecting from a Mac to an actual real computer running a linux that isn't bad (like OSX, which is a bad linux) via SSH does not count as the mac actually doing that work.

Thanks.

>>57060496
This is correct, only graphic designers and programmers use macs. The other 95% of us use windows or linux like a normal person.

>>57060492
Not sure what that's supposed to mean.

If you're saying they have a really cliche website design, I agree, but their purpose is to farm clicks from middle age women.

>>57060511

Most programmers I know use non-bad Linuxes which is basically anything that isn't OSX, or they use Windows.

I work in academia at a well known STEM university and none of the faculty that do research use Macs. They all use PCs running Windows or Linux, and do heavy duty work on Linux clusters.

The only people who use Macs are the odd dean and business staff who travel because they just need something that runs Office that they can burn $2000-3000 in funding on. They know they can get a PC laptop for half that with a better warranty and hardware, but they don't get to keep the difference so may as well get something that has pleasant aesthetics and makes them look important.

>>57058833
>when an earthquake hits and you get crushed by your books

>>57059870
I don't

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>>57060566
source: stack overflow

>>57059021
Check the name. ISIS propaganda confirmed

>>57060607
I do

Only retards work for startups.

You're not going to be the next Steve Jobs, and you're not going to be on the "ground floor" of the next big thing. It's not going to happen.

You're going to get used hard and put up wet, work 70+ hour weeks in exchange for having stupid office amenities that no adult needs (what a proper adult needs is paid vacation and sick days they don't get fired for using, good heathcare, and a good retirement plan), pay $2000 a month to live in someone's back yard, and then end up floating to another bad startup when bad investments and the general uselessness of the "product" fails to produce a buyer when the angel investor cash runs out.

Basically you're a bitch if you work for a startup or go to the bay area in general.

>>57060626

>calling anyone who uses Xcode a "developer"

>>57060714

the chart is misleading because iphone app developers aren't actually developers

if your "product" is ever self-described as "Uber for <something>" your only safe course is suicide because you've wasted your life

>>57060714
I'm a java developer. I just use a mac because it's more stable, is UNIX, and has bash.

>>57060802
>I'm a java developer.

thank you and good night

>>57060824
>t. C programmer, master of fizzbuzz, and dweller of mother's basement

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>>57060802
>I'm a java developer. I just use a mac

>>57060382

https://youtu.be/HMvrxOoeicM?t=3

>>57058672
they're both awful. have to sit with your back to the walkway.

>>57060714
disagree, working for startups can be a great way to learn things and get paid while doing it, without having to waste a lot of time with the politics you would deal with at big companies

>>57060802
>mac
>stable
>implying they aren't going down the path of msft with shitty updates every fucking week that break everything

>>57060714
>what a proper adult needs is paid vacation and sick days they don't get fired for using, good healthcare, and a good retirement plan
This is why I find myself actually considering re-enlistment. There's more money outside, but the benefits here are pretty darn good.

>>57060928
I'll admit shit is more buggy with each new release, but it's still way better than windows or freedomOS

>>57060949
>proprietary bullshit
>better than a proper free operating system

why do you despise being respected by your fellow man?

>>57058663
I wouldn't be able to work without a cubicle desu

>>57060966
hate to meme on you but it just werks

>>57059647
hard to tell if she was scamming people or was just legitimately delusional

>>57060928

All the startups my friends have worked at have been nothing BUT politics and cliques and boys clubs and shit like that.

I've been mostly in industry and it's all very sterile/compartmentalized where one hand doesn't know what the other is doing but I've never had my fucking paychecks bounce- which is something at least 3 of my friends have had happen.

>>57060995
why do you fall for stuff that you know is obvious marketing fluff and doesn't reflect reality?

>>57060929
Fuckin do it, man. 20 years then retirement is a pretty good deal.

>>57061019
i tried anon i really did

i started a new job and they gave me windows 10 instead of a mac. it sucked so i decided to install linux on it. i think it was either ubuntu or fedora. not my first time doing it, i've messed around with linux a few times beforehand.

took like 2 days to work out all the broken shit

a week later X just broke. lost another day of work to fix it. and then it broke again the next day so i gave up.

tried developing on windows after that but it was just really really terrible, no one should do that unless you're a .NET cuck

OS X is the only logical conclusion to my journey. no problems ever (well sometimes there's a problem but nothing major). it's just not worth all the effort for freedom.

>>57061003
the secret is to just ignore them and do whatever you want, you can get away with it in a low-management situation and they can't fault you for it if they're going to be cliquey assholes

>paychecks bounce
the solution to this is to negotiate for upfront payment and to not do anything if your paycheck doesn't arrive

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>>57060802
>I'm a java developer. I just use a mac

>>57060995
Apple computers are objectively more beautiful but I don't see how they work better. The UI is annoying and I don't like it. Everything from the icons to the noises are pretentious and unnecessary.

I got used to Linux in less than a week. But I still have problems adjusting to macs. I don't need bouncing icons, I don't need everything to be shiny, I don't need to overpay for hardware.

I like the way Macs look hardware wise - they are objectively beautiful pieces of industrial design - but I just don't need it. I've never been doing something and thought, "If only I was on a Mac!".

>>57061091

Also the mac hardware is now pretty out of date.

Also amd GPUs because Steve never forgave Nvidia for leaking stuff

>>57061070
should have returned the computer and gotten them to give you one that respected your freedom

>not worth the effort for freedom
people like you are the reason we can't have nice things

>>57061075
i don't get this meme

>>57061091
UNIX

>>57061103
>>GPU
>>muh games

>>57060851
you literally have to be retarded to not know how to do fizzbuzz. the fact that some of these people are "developers" and they' can write a fizzbuss just shows how meaningless the title of developer is nowadays.

>>57059504
I disagree, I spent more time fixing dumb OS X shit lately than I find acceptable.

>>57061138

>more like muh functional drivers, stability, and non-nuclear TDP

>>57060566
>non-bad Linuxes which is basically anything that isn't OSX
Are you saying that OS X is a bad Linux or that there is no such thing as a bad Linux?

>>57058622
All I see is
>chapter 11 in 6-12 months, endless pain and suffering and crying into Starbucks coffee
vs
>turning a profit

>>57061174
>>>"muh games"

>>57061229

Apple should just ditch AMD for intel integrated graphics then apparently

>>57058622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-vTNzYzr0

rekt

>>57061243
Already done that on most of the lineup and I wouldn't be surprised if that line expands in the future.

>>57058663
I hate when coworkers peak constantly into my screen, sometimes I just fiddle with programs and code that is not relevant to the exact project, not in the short term, and they come and ask why am I even installing/doing this. So I spend the next 10 minutes explaining them why. Next thing you know, I need another 30-40 mins to continue where I left off.

Having private office/cubicle is way way nicer in that aspect.

>>57058622
>>57058663
>not having a room for yourself
>getting work done
>working at a "startup"
Pick only one

>Being born from 1980-1999 makes you a pathetic millennial
Lel who 1977 master race here?

>>57059046
There are others. Google "Ceren Ercen" and look. She is fully clothed, technically speaking but perhaps too NSFW for a blue board.

She has the unique distinction of being the first and probably the only one to cause a meltdown on Slashdot (in addition to slashdotting the server where the pictures were located).

And she is a sysop engineer.

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>>57062155
Post pics faggot

>>57058622
You forgot
>closes its door after 6 months and dosent even pay the last month's salary

>>57061271
>I'm a slacker and I don't want more people to notice
your kind is the reason open spaces exist in the first place

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>>57058912
>cube is love
>cube is life

So, what were you in prison for, anon?

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>>57061446
B-but I don't feel like yolo-swag-lennial at all?!

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>>57059563
>>57059824
>>57060133
Not him but I'm 32 and there is definitely a huge difference between people born in the 80s and even early 90s and the current crops of 20 somethings.

Also Millenial isn't an absolute term, the definition varies.

According to pic related I could be Gen X (1984). The biggest difference is whether person in question grew up with ubiquitous social networks and lack of privacy, which basically means growing up in the early 2000s. Maybe millennial isn't the right term, but those faggot kids born in the mid to late 90s are the fucking worst kind of trash.

>>57062740
this desu senpai

>>57062624
No excuse. You are still a Milleninnial either way.

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>>57062155
>Ceren ercen
my dick got super hard

>>57059169
>claims to see 3d
>on a flat, 2d image

>>57060928
>disagree, working for startups can be a great way to learn things and get paid while doing it, without having to waste a lot of time with the politics you would deal with at big companies

Are you kidding me? No you're only kidding yourself if you believe that shit.

>>57058833
>towers on a desk
wtf are you doing anon?