/pcbg/ - PC Building General

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qtk9KZ

pulling the trigger in a few months, gimme some opinions

>>57047374
It's not that great. In a few months you'll probably have better options available. This is better but in burgers http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hmt4pb
One subtle change is the mobo. B150 is better because of its RAM features.

>>57047320
I'm building a new computer soon. Is an i5-6600K a decent mid range CPU?

>>57047374
Get a B150 or H170 mobo and i5-6500, the 6400 is shit.

>>57047441
i5-6600K is the best i5 you can currently get and it's rather high-range for consumer CPUs.

Windows 11 when? Windows 10 is fucking awful

>can't even open calculator in admin mode


Also can I do 32gb ram with win7?

>>57047474
Nice. Thanks for the answer.

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>>57047320
Can I fit Kama Flex 135mm fans in 120mm fan slots?

>>57047488
>Also can I do 32gb ram with win7?
Depends on which edition you're talking about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions#Comparison_chart

building this for my mother...

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gDwCwV

>>57047427
>>57047461
thanks mates

BUY USED OPTIPLEX GEN3 I7
BUY 1070 OR USED 980
BUY USED OPTIPLEX GEN3 I7
BUY 1070 OR USED 980
BUY USED OPTIPLEX GEN3 I7
BUY 1070 OR USED 980
BUY USED OPTIPLEX GEN3 I7
BUY 1070 OR USED 980

ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE FUCK OFF

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tskbpb

Non-troll list here, going for as cheap as possible with a z170 SLI mobo, any specific recommendations for the upgradability while being sub-650?

>>57047574
http://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/yL49KZ
The Gigabyte is a placeholder, couldn't find the Nitro on the paellapartpicker, either card is fine.
Anyways, this build is barely 20€ more expensive but it's worth the 6500.

>>57047557
Serious question, have you ever considered getting a mental health check? Because your build is clinical retardation.

>>57047654
>not recognizing an obvious troll

>>57047635
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6GxV4C

Sorry, I meant this one

and yes i know
>dinosaur case

but it's perfect

>>57047665
>there never were, are and will be retards on this board

>>57047654
she has a terminal condition, the video card is in her will for me

>>57047557
Why would your mom need a GTX 1080

>>57047557
Used dell optiplex i5 usff.
32gb ssd, 2 1tb refurb HDD (raid1) if you don't already have a nas.

Now kill yourself.

>>57047488
Windows 11 will be worse. Honestly Windows is heading towards being a gaming platform. I'm considering dual booting or doing a passthrough setup (whatever the fuck that is).

>>57047461
>the 6400 is shit.
Not shit, but not as good value as the 6500 or compared to the i3 6100

>>57047441
Unless you're getting a Z170 for OC just get a 6500

>>57047616
Does the Optiplex PSU have a 6+2-pin PCIe power connector? And what's its rated wattage?

>>57047635
Get 3000MHz RAM
The 1070 is overkill for 1080p.

>>57047635
>>57047668
>i3
>SLI
Just don't, it's not worth it.

>>57047711
It's always 8-pin on the PSU side you dummy
The cable is what determines if it's 6+2 or 4+4 or 8
Since it's all running at the same voltage
Or do you think extra pins = extra watts?

>>57047711
Even if it doesn't you can sell the PSU that comes with and buy a new one. Are you this stupid?

>>57047736
A PSU can also have only a 6-pin, you dummy. An 8-pin comes FROM the PSU as 6+2 because some PCIe components only have a 6-pin input. A straight 8-pin wouldn't fit in that case.

Besides that the the Optiplex 9010 only has a 275W PSU from the specs I saw. Doubt it as a 6+2-pin or even a 6-pin.

>>57047805
>Even if it doesn't you can sell the PSU that comes with and buy a new one. Are you this stupid?
Shut up faggot. See OP pic. Prebuilts often have strange connections between PSU and mobo (not sure about that Optiplex). You can't mix and match without checking

Additionally what's the point if you've got to swap everything out? Just get a used mobo + 3370K (which the Optiplex doesn't have and is worthwhile) + better RAM. Optiplex comes with 4GB as standard.

Also good luck trying to sell that PSU for anything more than S&H and eBay fees

So I installed my GTX 1080 after jumping from 760 and Speccy/Dxdiag is reading 4GB of VRAM but GPU-Z reads 8. Is that on Speccy/Dx's end that it can't detect it?

>>57047957
Yes

>>57047921
Because you can recoup the costs of everything but the graphics by selling the ram and cpu later? Even if you don't sell the psu you only spent 250 on the machine besides GPU. The PSU is standard atx, no oddities on the motherboard, which will be obsolete in 2 years anyways.

You can get more ram for cheap, some models come with enough.

If you don't want to sell the PSU you can just buy adapters anyways.

>>57047921
>mobo + 3370K
Meant 3770K.

>>57048053
>Because you can recoup the costs of everything but the graphics by selling the ram and cpu later
Makes no sense, like I said earlier you can do the same thing cheaper and better by simply buying a mobo+CPU+RAM combo

>The PSU is standard atx,
Link to specs with connections? And I see that the 9020 has a funky mobo to PSU connection. Still don't know about 9010.

Anyway if your PSU isn't transferable to the next platform after your used platform is "obsolete in two years" you dun goofed. And don't tell me molex to PCIe, it's shit and borderline unusable for graphics cards.

>If you don't want to sell the PSU
It's not about want, it's about economics. You literally won't make any money from the sale after you pay for postage and Ebay+Paypal fees. You're just keeping that garbage out of the landfill. (A nobel goal; I've do it with plenty of PS3 components like PSUs and heatsyncs.)

Dumb question here

If I get a regular 1080 now can I SLI it with a TI version when it comes out?

Any good x99 mobos that have dual x16 that aren't spaced closed together?

Don't want one of my gpus to get too hot

>>57048303
Not SLI, only with DX12 mGPU if implemented. A gamble, and at this point only two games that I know of (Ashes otS and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and the later is still in beta) can use unsymmetrical mGPU, and who knows will even support a currently unreleased GPU.

>>57048395
Should I just wait until Jan for the TI then?

>>57048417
Yup, but you better have a 4K or 144Hz 1440p monitor.

>>57048435
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sKjR4C

This is what I'm getting 2k 144hz

>>57048446
Not a bad build but you can save yourself some money by dropping to the i5 6600K. You can upgrade to an unlocked i7 in the future when it's worth it, unless you're already rendering or encoding or streaming or something.

Also never call 1440p "2k" again. It's 1440p or QHD.

This question probably belongs on /sqt/ but it will get more and more /pcbg/ over time, so i'll just ask here:
Which is better/least worse, Thermaltake Core v31 or Urban S21?

I'm trying to start my first build so i'm picking stuff that doesn't get obsolete so fast first, will probably buy one part every month (maybe more on black friday), it's supposed to be a very cheap gaming pc.
Brazil btw, things cost a lot here and i don't have that many options.

>>57048551
I don't know It feels like if I'm getting a 1080 I might as well just get the better cpu. My original plan was to get the 6600k and a 1070. However that wouldn't fit the monitor.

Is the i5-6600k overkill for someone who is not interested in over-clocking?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/t6KNpb

Adequate build for 1080p60 gaming at high/very high settings? I already have peripherals and internal HDD's for lots of storage, so they're not included.

>>57048796
You now what the K stands for and what unlocked CPUs are made for, right?

>>57048799
Yes

>>57048446
>1440p
>2K
I want this fucking meme to die. Just call it 1440p.

>>57048871
I'm sorry I was uninformed

>>57048721
You will literally see ZERO performance improvements with the i7 over the i5. Enjoy wasting a 100 bucks.

>>57048891
2% performance increase is a lot senpai :^)

If you want to learn how to build a pc, is it better to come here or r/pcmasterrace?

>>57048796
You are not the brightest of the litter are you?

>>57048920
Avoid both like the plague and read guides, watch tech tip videos and reviews.

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>>57048799
If you're preparing for SLI, read >>57048395

>>57048796
Probably unnecessary expense unless you burn money to stay warm.

>>57048721
Only 20% practical difference between 1070 and 1080, not worth it

>>57048891
Not ZERO, pic related

>>57048935
>Look guys! This shit game uses hyper threading! Totally makes my i7 purchase worth it!

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>>57049019
Missed, also this is my rig fagtron.

I've had it for a while. The 470 (at 1340) is a recent upgrade

>>57048927
I'm new to pc building, unfortunately people don't come packaged with everything you know m8, as hard as that may be to believe for you.

>>57049014
>Scolds the 1080 for 20% performance difference with 1070
>Praises i7 over i5 yet the max fps difference between the 6600 and 6700 is barely 10%

>>57049061
Yet using common sense is new to you?
Exactly what made you think that having a CPU that can be overclocked is better than having the exact same CPU that cannot be overclocked?

god damn it's almost mid october where's my AM4 boards

>>57049054
>AMD CPU
I pity you anon.

>>57049014
>8350 beats current gen i5s

I know this is an isolated case but, damn.

>>57049157
>brand loyalty
save that pity for yourself

>>57049066
Yeah but the minimums are twice as good, which is what matters considering how bad the i5 falters. If you're at locked 60 it doesn't matter but he's at 144Hz

>max fps difference between the 6600 and 6700 is barely 10%
Also you don't know how to do math, considering the difference is obviously almost exactly 20% more.

>>57049157
No complaints. Not that I'd encourage anyone to buy that platform new or even that CPU used.

>>57047320
Is it worth me getting a NZXT Hue kit?
If not, what are the better RGB lighting choices?

>>57049194
Ask >>>/v/ or >>>/fa/

>>57049014
>90% of games don't use hyperthreading
>90% of games will see ZERO increase in performance

>>57050221
Meanwhile the 1080 has "only" 20% advantage over the 1070 basically 100% of the time

Does anyone have any issues with AMD audio drivers overwriting Realtek/System drivers?

I don't have speaker sound anymore after installing AMD drivers, even after re-installing Realtek drivers.

USB headset works, HDMI audio works, just not the MoBo audio out.

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What determines if your ram is overclockable?
CPU, motherboard chipset, or motherboard manufacturer?
I'm finding a lot of mixed answers, most of them being that 2133-3000mhz isn't really anything to worry about but still I'm curious

>>57050441
Or does which specific model/brand of ram you have have a part in it too?

So how do I find out what the benchmarks for dual/more cards are? I ask because I'm curious about getting two 460's and using those instead of paying for a 1070.

Does it work like this: If a game runs at 45 fps with a certain card, would it run at 90 with two of that card? Or is there different efficiencies of cards? It seems impossible to find any easy information on this stuff

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>>57050543
>if a game runs at 45fps with one card will it run at 90fps with two?
I've got some disappointing news for you man...

>>57050559
no meme responses

>>57050543
>>57050559
Short answer: No.
Long answer: In some games that support SLI you will see a noticeable increase in performance that wont be anywhere even remotely close to double power, like expect 30% better frames AT MOST, on SLI supportive games. Most games will literally just not use the second card at all, and the ones that do mostly just benefit from the extra VRAM
3+ way SLI is dead for the future, 2 way SLI is on the decline and neither will get you double performance like we all hoped for when we hear of SLI/CF. However new single gpus are kicking ass by themselves, and with new APIs supporting multiGPU from a non-developer side you can at least hope that it'll get more useful

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Auct/saved/#view=P7NNGX

Looking to have this ready for VR. Will be using watercooling but haven't set any of it up on PCPartsList, any recommendations?

I have an i7 due to rendering. Would an i5 suffice if I don't render often, is there a large noticeable difference?

>>57050671
Hyperthreading on hyperthreading-compatible programs makes a really big difference, but with non-hyperthreading programs it makes exactly 0 difference
You basically should only buy i7s with specific programs in mind, and even then whether it's worth an extra $100 for a little less time rendering/exporting/encoding on certain programs is up to you

>>57050643
And of course, depending on the game and how it's [spoiler]meant to be[/spoiler] played you'll see better situations and worse situations. Like with the new pascal cards, SLI mostly does nothing at all until you use 4K. And older cards tend to do better with SLI since they're not already powerhouses satisfying 90% of a games load

>>57050671
Similar to mine. I'm getting a 1080 tho which is priced the same as the 1070 you are getting.

Does a setup like this need water cooling? Also is there any non-gaudy ram? I just want a plain clean look.

>>57051210
>Does a setup like this need water cooling?
Nothing "needs" watercooling. Your cooling solution will depend on how much you want to OC. Light OC will be fine with even a 212, if you want to torture the CPU you need more.
>Also is there any non-gaudy ram?
How exactly do define "non-gaudy" RAM? You could simply get plain green or black RAM sticks without any heatsink at all. Or look at Corsair LPX, i'd define this as "non-gaudy".
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16

>>57051350
This is the ram I picked for my build I still think it's too gaudy for me. It's only opinion

If I'm not going to OC my CPU and get a mid-range GPU is there any reason to buy anything higher than a bronze rated PSU?

>>57051423
Yes, never skimp on your PSU. Get the highest possible.

>>57051367
How about Mushkin?
http://poweredbymushkin.com/index.php/catalog/item/5-redline/1280-mra4u320lllm8gx2.html
See.. the problem is that about 99% of all that "high-end" RAM is directed at gamers, modders, etc. and those people like that "gaudy" look.
I seriously can't think of anything beyond GSkill Trident Z, Corsair LPX, Mushkin and HyperX RAM that doesn't look like gaymur cancer.
Sure, all of them have custom heat spreaders, but imho they look acceptable, they aren't curvy, edgy, flashy LED shit. If you ask me you'll have to live with this or drop to 2133/2400 RAM.

>>57051494
I wish they had just a sleek flat edged on all sides look.

>>57050221
>>57050234
>get repeatedly told
>exaggerate numbers further or go full retard
Just get out

>>57050441
Z170 is the only chipset that can use RAM at a higher effective speed than 2133. At least i3s, i5s, and i7s can also use fast RAM, not sure about Pentiums.

>>57050543
>If a game runs at 45 fps with a certain card, would it run at 90 with two of that card?
No, there's some scaling multiplier. It's not 100%.

But don't mGPU

>>57050671
RAM is way too expensive even for kangaroos

I'd say if you don't render more than a couple of times a week an i5 is fine.

>>57051423
Bronze is fine, gold if the price diff isn't too big

>>57051550
The mobo says it supports a couple of different speeds including 3000mhz but it wont boot when I enable XMP. New bios update says better DT compatibility so I'll try that

>>57051593
Better ddr compatibility*
Mine is also z170

>>57051593
There's also a list on the mobo site of what specific ram is compatible at what speeds and my g skill wasn't on there

>>57047427
Woah, dump that GPU NOW! Driver support is awful. A 1060 is cheaper and more powerful

Is it possible to get a radio tuner installed in your 5.25 bay?

>>57051513
I can understand that, maybe Corsair Dominator? they have a huge heat spreader on top, but at least it's flat, there's also a "limited black version".
http://www.corsair.com/en/dominator-platinum-se-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-dram-3200mhz-c14-memory-kit-blackout-cmd32gx4m2c3200c14m

>>57051632
Running the ASUS ROG STRIX 470, it's fine for what I do man.

Only small problem that RARELY ever shows up(I've only seen it once) is the ATI mouse icon bug.

>>57051724
Running an EVGA GTX 1060 FTW+ and destroying your shitty card. I got lower temps and higher framerates. I hope you can return your hot potato soon.

>>57051593
Possible that your RAM isn't supported at high speed, but definitely flash to latest BIOS and if that doesn't work hope for a compatibility update.

>>57051632
I've had quite a few crashes, but I'm not really that annoyed yet. Anyway I'd pick the 4GB 470 over the 3GB "1060" anyday. My 470 is at 1340MHz

>>57047320
Have a shitpost.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rmqW9W

>>57051791
Ditch the SSD + HDD setup and just shoot for the highest capacity SSD you can. Also, the 6600k will bottleneck the fuck out of your GPU, get a 6700k instead.

>>57051840
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rmqW9W
So something like this?

>>57051892
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fKX3RG
fuck, wrong link.

>>57051904
Perfection.

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Built this with gf today.

AMD 860k CPU
ASUS A68HM-K MOBO
8GB Corsair Value RAM
WD BLUE 1TB
EG Hyperion mATX case.
Second hand Gigabyte Windforce 7950

Total cost was around £300without mouse or keyboard, £330 with.

How did we do for a budget gaming build?

>>57052114
>AMD
pretty shit desu

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>>57052114
Doesn't sound that bad, though I hope you didn't pay much for that GPU.
Also what PSU? Built-in?

Lastly that picture took nearly half a minute to open on my computer.

>>57052358
Oh shit forgot about that, its a 450 Corsair unit, 80+ Bronze.

We paid about £70 for it.

>>57052375
That is not a very good price either, especially for some corsair lottery psu.
It's safe to say you won't strain it too much, but don't try to keep it for another computer in the future.

For $85 you can usually get something 80+gold semi/fully-modular, and >=550W.

>>57051550
Gold PSU is an extra $50 here in Canada, so $60 for a Bronze 80+ and 100+ for a Gold 80+, I just don't see a reason to spend $100 on a 500w power supply when bronze is much cheaper.

Although there is Rosewill Capstone G750 on sale for $89 + $10 shipping, seems like the best bang-for-buck if I wanted to upgrade/OC but I haven't heard good things about Rosewill.

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>>57052411
Sorry, should have clarified, we paid £70 for the HD7950.

IT's the VS450, the PSU by the way.

Pic related, current temps.

Best cases with 2 CD access (forgot how it's called)?

>>57052568
5.25" bays are used primarily for cd disc drives.

Your typical mid-tower ATX case will have something between two and four 5.25" bays.

A mini-tower mATX case will have 0-2 bays.

There are many cases with two 5.25" bays.
PCP can filter that for you.

>>57051755
I got it for 185, and I'm on a budget+I run a 1080p/60Hz monitor, and I"m coming from a GTX 560 from 5 years ago. I could care less if you're destroying my card, I'm getting 30+ framerates on high details that i NEVER could've gotten all those years ago.

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>>57052985
His card isn't that good

>>57051550
The post you replied to showed non-z170 motherboards with overclockable ram

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>>57053143
Which ones?

>b-b-b-but it just werks!!
>b-b-but i enabled XMP

>>57053335
The one you replied to duh
>>57050441
Also X99

>>57053335
>Adata ram
>specific model compatibility list
You you even scroll through it all the way or did you just glance at it then shit all over it in paint?

>>57053335
So MSI makes a shit H110?
Or H110 can't OC ram?

>>57053394
All the supported DDR4 RAM runs at 2133 on that MSI H110, retard. That's why it says, "And so forth". It amazes me that people manage to shitpost without being able to read

>>57053411
Finally someone has presented some (rather poorly explained) evidence. Seems that only some ASROCK B150 H110 H170 boards can run RAM at higher than 2133 if you get a supported module. So no broad support, and the max is 2800 according to this http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?id=3043

Any further info like a list of supported modules would be appreciated

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>>57053524
>a list of supported modules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQdfL_9Klrk#

It's fucking nothing. Both come clocked at 2133MHz
http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KVR21N15S8_4.pdf
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=D4-4G2133S

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>>57053394
(You)

So I'm getting a MSi GTX 1070 soon and I was wondering if my CPU will be able to handle it? Currently my PC has a Intel Core i5 3470, I know it's old but it'll work right?

>>57047320
I've got about 1400 GBP to build a computer, but I've never actually built one from scratch before.

I've:
Redone my thermal paste.
Reseated my CPU cooler.
Took out my GPU and cleaned it.

Is it just as simple as plugging wires and shit into the motherboard from the components? Will I need to buy extra wires and other shit?

Where can I get a decent deal on parts in the UK? I want to build one that can do 120-144 fps in shootman games.

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Hey, nerds.

Is there any downside to buying unbranded chink-shit RAM?

>>57053740
Oh but what's that they do overclock

>>57047639
>Go with HGST Deskstar 7k4000 because little price increase for more storage, unless you have a NAS like everyone should

>16 GB of RAM is so much better but 8 GB is fine to keep costs down

>>57055302
Fire hazard
No warranty that will actually be honored.

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>>57047320
Any optimizations?

I want:
1. A CPU that's in this list:
http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&VTX=true&VTD=true

2. A Mobo that's in this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware#Motherboards

3. A GPU that's in this list:
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/

AMD would be preferred

Source
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WzNW9W

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>Run old ass phenom II 955 BE with stock cooler
>55 celsius idle with 24 celsius room temp
>Fans at 5500 RPM
>It doesn't sound that bad (AMD coolers are really decent) but the sound is really noticeable
>Buy Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
>Put extra fan on it
>Apply some of that good ass Arctic MX4 on my old CPU
>Slap cooler on that sheit
>Temps are 41-43ish celsius at same room temperature

Huh, i thought they would be lower.

Am i forgetting something /pcbg/? I also want to OC this thing, cause to be honest my PC is reaching the end of its life and i want to get the most out of it.

>>57056563
What 14 degree reduction is not good enough for you? What exactly were you expecting? Subzero temps?

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Just bought an Asus Crosshair V Formula Z and a new PGS batch FX-8350.

>>57055302
If data integrity and performance isn't needed, then not really.

>>57056503
That doesn't look too bad from your constraints. Consider buying 2x4GB to take advantage of the dual-channel nature of the memory.

I'm assuming you're looking to do virtualization. If so, consider a 256GB or even 128GB SSD to store the VM images (if you can afford it, a Samsung 850 Evo, otherwise a Crucial MX100), and more RAM (at least double). And a gentle reminder to make sure the WiFi adapter is compatible with whatever distribution you plan on using.

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>>57056664
>dual channel nature of the memory
How can it benefit me?

>and more RAM (at least double)
Why tho

> WiFi adapter is compatible with whatever distribution you plan on using.
Thanks for the heads up. It's Intel so I hope the firmware is open source

Should I get a 128G SSD instead? (35GB for Linux, the rest is VM) I already have a home server to store my porns and TV shows.

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I'm building my first PC. I can get W10 free from a friend or pirate W7 (something I know nothing about and because it's something so simple I don't expect any help).

TPB has W7 there but I don't know if I won't get the "this copy of Windows is not genuine" or not, and I am terrified of viruses.

Please help.

>>57056748
>>57056748
>7260HMWDTX1
Just checked, works with Linux

Buying it soon. Looking for advice, /g/.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqkH3F

>Playing gaymes on 1080p at medium to low settings
How long can i expect it to last? not trying to go above $500

>>57056756
Happy to help!
Go to my digital life forums, look for the "Everything MSDN has to offer for Windows 7" thread. You may also use the search function to find the Windows 10 images. Kabino has some posted i think.

Next, download Microsoft Toolkit from the same forum. Use it how you would anything else.

Congratz, Free Windows.

Also, avoid pre-cracked releases. they're fucking filled with rootkits and RATs.

>>57056748
>>dual channel nature of the memory
>How can it benefit me?
By using only one stick, you're cutting memory bandwidth in half. Dual-channel memory requires two physical sticks.

>>more RAM
>Why tho
I assumed you'd be simultaneously virtualizing several relatively modern OS's (<5 years old). If you're only virtualizing one old OS at a time, 8GB is enough for host + VM.

>Should I get a 128G SSD instead?
Definitely.

>>57056819
>You need to login to view this posts content.
Also, if I don't have an optical drive, can I set this up on USB?

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/r2xtCy

Budget:
>$2K AU

Purpose for build:
>working from home 3 days a week
>gaming when I can fit it in
>music production

Why did I make some choices?
>monitor size: I need big. I do fuckloads of spreadsheet work (I'm internal audit/reporting) and regularly have 4 or 5 different sheets open, plus SAS, plus email, plus JIRA, plus Cisco Jabber.
>ITX FF: we have a baby. I want this all to go up on a standing desk out the way. The monitor will go on a vesa mount attached to the desk, and the case will sit on the desk.
>locked CPU: I have no interest in overclocking, and could save money in the budget for the GPU and to keep overall builder under $2K.
>single 16Gb DIMM: I'll add another 16Gb in a bit if performance isn't up to scratch.

>>57056836
Yes. Use Rufus.
Also the sign up takes 10 secs.

>>57056824
Thank you anon

>>57056585
Well, if the room temps are 24 something, i expected at least 35-38

>>57056857
I'm not getting the notification email. Checked spam folder.

>>57056929
Odd...
Try emailing them, can't offer much support other then that bud.

What links do you want?

>>57056941
Sorry. I want to set up W7 Home Premium, so whatever I would need in order to do that.

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I'm using my PC for videogaming, but I want to use it for 3D-Rendering too (Cinema4D), which I'm using on my laptop for now. I render at someone else's PC because I want to reinstall windows on my PC before i put C4D on there.

Here are my components:

1. Intel Core i5-3550 3.70GHz @3.30 GHz
2. Gigabyte Z77-DS3H Mainboard
3. 16 GB RAM
4. Nvidia GTX670
5. SSD 240 GB with Windows 7 64Bit installed on it (nearly full though)
6. HDD 1TB (also nearly full)

Iiyama ProLiteE2773HDS 27" Monitor
other periphials dont matter, they are fine

My budget amounts to 500-600€
I'm from Germany.

My Question is: what should I upgrade with my money to make my PC fit for current-gen games and 3D Rendering (given I clear parts of my SSD and reinstall a fresh windows)

Thanks for all answers!

Wait for Zen or just go with Skylake?

>>57056914
Not with the HyperMeme 212 Evo, this is as good as it gets.

>>57057002
With your budget only the GPU and maybe PSU depending on how much W your current has.

>>57057082
Im not really expecting much from Zen, atleast nothing Intel can't top with Cannonlake in May. The only people excited for Zen are the same ones who thought Bulldozer would be the best thing ever.
A shame really, the jews at Intel could use some strong competition from AMD.

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How does the Cryorig C7 perform compared to the Hyper 212evo?
They are around the same price right now.
Is there a reason the tall blocks are recommended over the "low-profile" style heatsink?

>>57057732
Both C7 and 212 are memes and the blocks have better heat release that's why.

>>57057732
Blocks perform better since the surface is larger, it's as easy as that. The C7 is a decent cooler and should perform similar to the EVO.

>>57057771
>>57057775
I guess that is to be expected from something with greater surface area.

What is an example of a non-"meme" cooler then?
I don't need much; it's only for a 6600k.

what are some quality >4TB drives for a RAID1 array?

>>57057830
Depends how much you want to OC. C7, EVO and H7 are all fine, but won't let you push the CPU to it's limits. If you want maximum OC get AIO or something like a Noctua NH-D15 or Phanteks PH-TC14PE.

>>57057862
Get HGST you fucking newfag

>>57057921
why would i buy drives for RAID from a disappearing company?

>>57057963
>HGST
>disappearing
How did you even find this board?

>>57058014
read the news non-pass shitlord scum

>>57057862
Seagate Enterprise SAS3 (NOT SATA!) drives. Unlike their consumer drives, Seagate's Enterprise and Datacenter drives are built like fucking tanks.
And get yourself a proper LSI SAS RAID card with a battery back-up and internal caching.

>>57058025
>non-pass shitlord scum
Fuck off to tumblr, retard.

Should I wait for cyber Monday?

Two 1TB mSATA SSDs with this
https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-2-5-Inch-Adapter-Converter-25SAT22MSAT/dp/B00ITJ7WDC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

or four 250GB M.2 SATA SSDs with this
StarTech.com 4x M.2 Mounting Adapter for 3.5-Inch Drive Bay Mount Four M.2 NGFF SATA-Based SSDs into Drive Bay

?

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>>57058159
Or go full ham with four 500GB mSATAs with this
http://www.addonics.com/products/ad4mspx2.php

>>57047711
>Windows 11
I'm pretty sure Microsoft is going to just keep updating Windows 10, kinda like how Mac OS has been version 10 for ages.

I find this sad because Windows 10 is a failure, why stick with one of the worst releases of Windows yet? Windows 7 and 8.1 were good. Windows Vista, 8 and 10 are shitty.

>>57057913
I want to OC it to between 4.2 and 4.5GHz.
Do you think this is attainable with a cooler <=$60?

>>57058134
No. There are very few deals that are actually decent and a lot more of prices that were slowly raised approaching Cyber Monday only to be dropped back down to normal and called a "deal."

Check the prices for common items like HDDs and CPUs in a price history graph and see the trends from last year to determine when you should buy.

What's the best 480 aib at the moment? HIS, sapphire? Xfx?

>>57058373
Whichever is cheapest.
I like my Nitro+ 11260-01-20G because I got it for $250 instead of its $280 current price tag on Amazon.

The cheapest ones I see right now are the PowerColor Red Devil and the XFX one, though the difference only amounts to around $20 between that and other brands.
Whatever you do I recommend shopping around to at least bring the price down to the $250 range instead of skirting around $300 like the inflated stores are selling them.

>>57058718
I see. Thanks. I'm in Canada so it is roughly $350-400 for the 480.

>>57058257
4.2 is still doable with an Evo 212 but I'd start looking at something bigger for 4.5 such as a CM Hyper 412S or a Scythe Mugen 4, they only cost 10 bucks more than the Evo 212 but have better cooling performance. Of course for big overclocks you want to be looking at something in a higher price range.

>>57058893
the red devil is actually pretty shitty just to let u know

>>57054528
Yes

>>57056281
Again it's fucking nothing. The exception proves the rule. Extremely limited support (two whole fucking modules that aren't even listed on ASRock's website as far as I can tell) and a max of 2800. Who knows even what the OC success rate is, considering the RAM is at stock 2133?

So you can fuck off

>>57056503
Get 16GB RAM for VMs
Get 240GB SSD

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>>57047320
what now?

>>57058909
Yeah I generally avoid powercolor or those other odd brands. HIS aib looks pretty decent. The nitro is the most well priced and in stock for Canada though. Does the 480 o.c well at all? My 7850 could do a 30% o.c all day

>>57058898
If I buy a mATX mini-tower that doesn't really support coolers taller than 100mm,
would it make more sense to get some $40-$50 low profile cooler like the NH-L9i, NH-L9x65, or Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev.B?

>>57059371
*or a single fan liquid block?
Not even sure if my meme sff case has radiator support, but I'd probably drop it if neither would work.

>>57056800
It's shit. I can tell you got that from logical increments, which is complete shit at that tier right now.

Get either the GTX 1050 or 1050Ti, coming out in about a week. Make sure to get a 4GB card.

The AM3+ platform is completely dead. The only CPU worth getting on it is the FX8350, and then you'd only want to buy used including mobo and RAM.

Follow this build, just exchange the case. Get a 240GB SSD if you can
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/Jhyf7P

>>57057155
Zen will have its uses, especially the APUs and straight CPUs without graphics. (Basically the only thing people in this thread wouldn't care about would be the server options.)

The (maybe second gen) Zen APUs will allow the user to play PS3 and 360 games without a dedicated graphics card at 1080p.

The four core Zen CPU only will be cooler than Intel's i7 when OC'd because no integrated graphics.

And lastly, you don't have to buy the highest tier mobo to get OC capability

>>57057002
Just get a new graphics card for now, 470 (possible price drop soon), 480, 6GB 1060, or 1070.

You can upgrade your CPU later if you're not satisfied with the rendering times. You have a Z mobo, so you can get the i7 3770K + cooler and OC if you need it.

>>57057082
Doesn't matter. If you don't NEED to build now, just wait. But LGA 1151 is a decent socket

>>57056838
PSU is expensive, I'd drop to a Gold or Bronze.

>>57057085
I have an FX6350 and the current temp is 25C with the Hyper 212 EVO

>>57057830
You're paying for a piece of metal and a fan either way you're getting meme'd

>>57058134
No you should wait for Black Friday
Cyber Monday doesn't even exist anymore, it's just leftover deals from black friday

>>57058935
>OC success rate
It's 100% if every thing is compatible which apparently it is

>>57060633
[citation needed]

Anyway I put together a build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/#view=zr2RBm

>>57060609
Oh wow, black Friday.

Maybe I'll only have to pay twice what I would on amazon at best buy

What's the difference in performance between:

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/b38yFd

And

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/PkjsKZ

>>57061241
Can't OC the CPU on the H110 mobo. The Z170 build is better, but drop to the 500W EVGA listed in the second build. The percentage diff in the cost of the build is minimal, but you could easily see a 15% increase in performance with a nice OC on the CPU. If you're still worried about cost, you might be able to get a cheaper Z170.

>>57061241
Worth noting that unless you absolutely need an i7, you'll probably see no difference between the i7 and the i5 or even an i3. An i3 is plenty for shitposting and watching movies.

>>57061291
Can't find a good and cheap z170 that is good for OC. Also I don't know what fucking case so I don't know how much I can OC depending on he cooler I get.

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Just bought this with money I got for my 21st birthday, hope I didn't fuck up too bad. I think it was a good start for my new build.

>>57061319
>AMD CPU
You already fucked up

>>57061341
Well it's still gonna be pretty good, my current pc with all the drives I need and gpu is currently a bottleneck.

>>57061355
AMD is only good if you're poor and desperately need more than two cores. Especially for gaymin the i3-6100 is better.

>>57061355
Yeah, but AM4 and Zen are just around the corner.

>>57061355
Grab a used 8350 + Hyper 212 EVO to go along with the 990 mobo. Pretty much the only good CPU at this point. You could also get a 6350 if you're really cheap or a 6300 if you want to try to manually OC and play the silicon lottery.

But honestly you should just return that board and get a Z170 or B150 and an i3 6100.

Same total cost, and you'll actually be able to get a significantly more powerful CPU for the socket (like a 6600K or even Kaby Lake) when you need to.

>>57061230
>actually leaving your house on black friday

>>57061400
>Poor
Well that's my machine right there, I'm using Vegas pro which can use all the weak ass cores, and I believe GTA V can max out an AMD 8350, so it'll be sweet.

Here's the rest of my parts

FX-8350 possibly used if It's much cheaper
Hyper X 2x8 GB
Hyper 212
CX750 meme PSU
Corsair 300R

>>57061230
Cyber Monday like actually doesn't exist, most major online shops either combine Black Friday and cyber Monday into a weekend long thing or they don't even acknowledge Monday

>>57061450
If you desperately need all those core, fine, but don't expect much from it.

>>57061492
I'm not expecting much for IPC, I know they really didn't do shit form the Phenom days but slam a bunch of cores in it, but it's better than my used Q6600 P5K setup that I threw together on the cheap in 2014.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JTZjGf
Here's my meme build.

>>57061531
Get this HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UM3102206

Consider a 1060 6GB if you're at 1080p 60Hz

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DCXcxY First build already got the mobo card cpu and power supply just need my ram ssd hard drive and is and in good to go

>>57061522
>E6600
>Q6600
>6600K
Does Intel have some 6600 fetish? Best value CPUs have always a 6600 in their name..

>>57061597
I noticed that too, it's like they went "Ooh, this one seems to be really ahead of it's time. Yup, 6600 model it is".

>>57061585
Why opt for the i7 and 1060 and not i5 and 1070?

>>57061311
I'm gonna use gentoo and run a windows vm whenever I need to access the botnet. I think it would be safe to run 1 core 1 thread for gentoo and 3 cores 3 threads for a vm.

Also I'm going to be making a strategy game and I want to have multiple VMs to test performance.

I'm guessing its better to have faster ram for that usage case.

Also might stream some dota for the shitters on /d2g/.

How much better will an i7 be at this?

>>57061617
Yeah.. the based satanistic jews at Intel know their work.

>>57061618
Actually gonna save up for a 1080 but decided the 1060 is good enough for now plus editing and streaming

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Hey. Hey you.
Wanna see some gore?

>>57061827
The only gore I see is that 4GB of ram, your HD4800 gpu probably outruns my AMD HD7750 gpu, at least you have the 32nm goodness.

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>>57061846
Oh, you haven't seen what she looked like when she was younger.

>>57061935
See, told you your new one wasn't so bad, FX 6300 is really good for the money.

>>57061719
If you end up buying a 1080 anyways, then wait until new year for the 1080ti.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Erickazo99/saved/K3dCJx
Finally going to put this together as my first pc build in a couple weeks.
>inb4 lol that gpu is old as shit ur case iz 2 expensive and you dont need a heatsink for that cpu

I know the gpu sucks, i bought the case+gpu+heatsink from my friend and i plan on getting a 1070 8gb as soon as i have the money for it.
Any other suggestions?

>>57061963
You might as well resell the GPU as soon as you can because it is not far above HD Graphics 530 and you will get your 1070 sooner that way.

It would be interesting to see a CM case that isn't hideous or stained with its ugly oversized logo. I am sure it'll work fine though.

>>57062022
Hideous or stained? The gpu is that bad huh?

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>>57061963
Why not this case way more sexier corsair 760t

>>57062086
And yes that gpu is booty

>>57062102
Already own the case man. I'm stuck with it.

>>57061963
>A- Screen
>mechanical keyboard
>Transformers™ the mouse
Nice meme peripherals.

>>57062086
Personally I find all the HAF cases very ugly.
The ridges on the side and the mesh front in particular bother me.
All CM cases I have seen have had the huge COOLER MASTER on the front of them in a size that is inappropriate for the proportions of the case.

I say that the 560ti isn't far above the HDG530 only compared to a modern gpu.
Side by side the 560ti is clearly better, but for what you will be getting, the gtx1070, the difference between the gtx 560ti and the HDG530 is much less compared to that between the gtx 560ti and the gtx 1070.

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Okay /g/reasyboys, I need to choose between a budget Pentium G4400 build and an AMD one, but I don't know what AMD socket is going to be supported for a long time, help please?

>>57062158
Any suggestions on the peripherals? I only chose that because among you /g/uys razer is taboo, but the razer adder is the only comfortable mouse i've used before. and /MKG/ suggested that keyboard

>>57062206
If you find the mouse comfortable then go for it.

I am sure /mkg/ would find my taste too pleb though if you are willing to listen to them.

I use a generic rubberdome keyboard from who knows what year maybe sometime around 2004 and it works just fine.
I have used mechanical keyboards before (tried in-store), and I did not notice a difference that could remotely justify the cost difference.

Then again it is the same with my mouse. I have some big wireless one by Logitech that I can fit most of my palm on and it works fine for basically everything I do.

"Gaming-oriented" peripherals are a huge meme.

Similarly, I find that resolution and color > input lag and refresh rate in just about every situation.
Your monitor is probably okay since I think it is a lot harder to get an actual bad monitor nowadays, but when buying from A- tier, you are playing the pixel lottery just like overclockers play the silicon lottery.

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Here's what I have so far

Already have everything else for cheap

>>57062389
>I have used mechanical keyboards before (tried in-store), and I did not notice a difference that could remotely justify the cost difference.

At least for me it took more than just trying out the mechanical keyboard. I only really noticed the difference when after a couple weeks, I had to go back to using rubberdome.

>>57062206
Deathadder is fine, if you like it, keep it. Otherwise try Zowie. The Ducky shine is good, but expensive. The CM Quickfire TK is much cheaper.

With the rx 480.
I5 4460 or i3 6300?
Can the i3 be overclocked?
Are the 2 cores shit?

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Do you think I could get to 4.5GHz OC with this setup?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dCWjGf

>>57062701
Get an i5 "K" SKU for future proofing.

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>>57062158
>YUUUUGE

>>57062185
The new one will. Unfortunately you'll have to wait for zen.
All other amd sockets are already dead ever since mobo manufacturers got the green light to use AM4 sockets
Such is life in second place

Mini ITX or micro ATX?
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/NydtCy
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/hcgK7h

To be honest the only reason I'm not settling for the micro are the right sided USB ports and ON switch and no onboard wifi.
I planned on upgrading the GPU and monitor in the future and the support of crossfire is the biggest plus for the micro ATX.

>>57062759
Should be possible but i'd the the NH-L9i.

I have a 280x now, but I'm thinking about getting a better GPU and a 1440p monitor. I can get a Sapphire Nitro 390x for $175 or a Sapphire Fury $225. Should I pick one of those up or just wait for now?

>>57062831
MATX is as small as you can go without having to consider extra problems like cooling and space
ITX is more expensive than ATX while mATX is cheaper or the same as ATX
But mATX boards are only like an inch smaller than ATX boards
Ultimately it's up to the case maker to decide how compact your build can be

>>57062841
I was very much inbetween those coolers.
The Cryorig C7, the Noctua NH-L9i, and the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev.B.

The Cryorig is obviously cheaper ($30)
but from what I read the Noctua and Scythe were very close, and the Scythe is a couple bucks cheaper on Amazon.

Is there a particular reason you vouch for the Noctua instead?

>>57062771
That picture is huge despite its terrible quality.

Really I would prefer if they put the logo on the back or not at all.
I don't want to advertise for a company's metal (if I'm lucky) boxes at all times.

Same thing with ThermalTake shit too.
I just get really bothered when they have a large, shiny metallic logo on the case.

>>57063184
Because you really want to push your CPU and the Noctua will give you better temps. If you can live with higher temps the shuriken is fine.

>>57063231
Fair enough. I have made the correction in my build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tMWjGf

I have noticed that the PCP price finder is actually incredibly bad at finding prices on Amazon, which is where I often find some decent deals.
It has gotten to the point where I'd rather find names on the site list then google them just to check their actual prices in the stores where I would actually buy them.

I'm not even outside the US, so I wonder why this happens.

Best graphics card for Senran Karuga Shinovi Versus in 720p or maybe 1080p, please.

>>57063308
If you ask me the only good thing about PCP is that you can pick parts, build a list, share it and save it, otherwise its absolute trash.
Especially outside the US the are so many products not found by it, so many sellers/shops not recognized and the prices are not accurate.

>>57063369
The devs recommend the gtx 760. That means anything better would be fine.
That would include cards like the rx470 or the gtx 1050 (probably).

>>57063392
Yep even when I'm shopping US I feel like I should just add the parts as custom or do a price override when making a list so that it can list the correct price.

>have 2500k
>can get 3930k for $200
is it worth it? I need to get a new mobo, but I think it's still good, right?

also, is 2133MHz ram worth buying? will games utilize it?

>>57063431
Price-comparison tools are the answer. If you take Germany for an example, the same build i made on PCP which costs 1.4k costs 1.3k on Geizhals.at or Idealo.de, easy.. just like that.
Another thing is there are some parts that are easily interchangeable and there's no way to configure this on PCP (or most other tools, unfortunately).

>>57063489
>is it worth it?
Not if you need to buy extra mobo, RAM and whatnot. Just OC the 2500K.
>also, is 2133MHz ram worth buying? will games utilize it?
Assuming you're on DDR3, yes it is.

>>57063489
If you can find a X79 board then that'd be a dirt cheap hexacore.

Games don't really use a hexacore's full potential though. You shouldn't be buying one if you don't understand what it's useful for.

Consider a 3770k or something instead.

>>57063532
>Consider a 3770k or something instead.
this is my #1 option, but I can't find any. is 2600k for $150 good?

>>57063529
>Not if you need to buy extra mobo, RAM and whatnot. Just OC the 2500K.
I'm already running my 2500k at 4.5GHz. I can't get stable any higher without approaching 1.4V

>Assuming you're on DDR3, yes it is.
maybe I'll grab it then

>>57063571
If you already run a quadcore at 4.5GHz, why upgrade? That's not worth for gaymin.

Whats the easiest way to restore a motherboard to factory settings? I've bought a new rig and I want to sell my current mobo but it's got custom profiles and shit that I want to wipe out.

>>57063602
b-because my friend got a new pc and I want an i7 now ;_;

>>57063392
It points you to the listings, Shirley you look at the websites before you confirm the price in your head right?
I think PCP is awesome because compatibility filter and pretty well organized lists of things, it makes finding a part you don't already know much easier than searching a shopping site for pages on pages of what might work

>>57063571
>this is my #1 option, but I can't find any. is 2600k for $150 good?

I think it is overpaying. Imo stalk ebay for an Ivy Bridge i7, or if you have a motherboard which supports it, a Xeon E3-1230 v2.

>>57063659
I'm in Canada, so prices are a bit higher. what's a fair price for a 2600k then? I can resell my 2500k, so I don't think the price difference would be more than $50

>>57063647
>my friend got a sexual surgery and now he has a bigger dick than me
Nigger please. Do not upgrade your quad core CPU @4.5GHz only for >muh gaymin, it's absolutely not worth it.
Save your money until Intel throws something actually improved on the market. Maybe Cannonlake, but don't waste 200$ or more on used parts just because your friend got a new i7...

>>57063657
Problem is, if you define the price in the filters, parts that PCP can't find, but exist, will not be listed. For example i want the G2 in my build, but in Germany, PCP could not find it.
Sure, picking parts etc. based on filters is great and all.. but the PCP is definitely not suited for any price comparison whatsoever.

>>57063701
Well, if you're talking the canadian peso, $150 CAD is very reasonable.

For freedom dollars, I'd try for ~$125. But that's pretty close, so if you're comfortable with overpaying to get it RIGHT NOW, it's fine.

Another thing I forgot to note: The IPC differences between Sandy & Ivy weren't huge. Maybe 5-10% iirc. The main benefit of Ivy Bridge was the Z77 motherboard compatibility which allowed for native USB 3, lower heat / power consumption, etc.

So if you're popping the 2600k into an existing Z67 motherboard, you won't get screwed on cost:features ratio or anything. I think that would be a good purchase.

>>57063760
alright thanks. I think I'll just keep this badboy for another year and maybe grab a 2600k/3770k if I can get one for a good price. I haven't tried beyond 4.6GHz because I know it'll take a lot more voltage, but I may as well try now

>Save your money until Intel throws something actually improved on the market. Maybe Cannonlake, but don't waste 200$ or more on used parts just because your friend got a new i7...
my CPU has started showing its age, and I've seen benchmarks where Sandy Bridge is anywhere from a few percent to up to 20% vs newer gen. as is, I can't both play games at 1440p and watch high quality videos. I just think hyperthreading would nice, and I'm willing to spend ~$200 for better multi tasking

>>57063833
>I haven't tried beyond 4.6GHz because I know it'll take a lot more voltage, but I may as well try now

It's not really worth the heat to bump it +100MHz imo. You wouldn't see a noticeable performance gain, but you would definitely feel it in the room your computer's in.

I run my 5820k @ 4.4GHz / 1.15V just because I can't stand the heat of higher voltages, even though I've gotten the chip to 4.8.

Going to microcenter for the first time tomorrow. Right now i'm rocking an overclocked AMD phenom ii 955. Thinking about picking up
6600k
ASRock Z170M+ 16g ddr42400 ram
For around 350 after tax/rebates.
Do it, or just wait for zen?

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it's cold as fuck in my house and it's getting colder
How much should I overclock my 6600k?
Should I OC my 1070 also?
And setting all the fans to max rpm will help too right

>>57063954
>How much should I overclock my 6600k?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics

>Should I OC my 1070 also?
sure why not

>And setting all the fans to max rpm will help too right

Not really. If you want your computer to be a space heater, run FurMark in the background constantly.

>>57063925
I was thinking about getting that same combo with 3000MHz RAM, but after I looked at this
http://www.microcenter.com/site/brands/intel-processor-bundles.aspx
I'm considering the MSI one.

It'd be roughly $30 cheaper for the motherboard from what I could tell, but I don't know if its any good. Literally just saw it

>>57056563
Are you shitting me? That stock cooler is a jet engine. I went from that to a bequiet purerock (Similar to 212) and went from 55C to 37C, along with an overclock from 3.2 to 3.8. Can't even hear the cpu cooler on max.

Longtime ps4 user here and I finally want to upgrade.

I'm reading through the OP and some guides right now but can I still build a decent gaming PC from scratch with a $650 budget? Any tier from logical increments I should aim for?

>>57064282
Uh yeah the one that is right under $650 maybe.

Also, just as people don't factor in TV and seating and such into a console budget, be sure you have a satisfactory screen and other peripherals that you will need to use a computer.

rx470 4GB+i3-6100 is a pretty good combo.
Get a H110 chipset motherboard.
Get a $40-50 PSU that is 80+ Bronze
Get a 2TB HDD that is 7200rpm
Get a case for $50 or less (subjective opinions here)
Get 8GB of DDR4 2133MHz RAM

Very simple. If you have money leftover, put it into a small SSD to boot and load games off of

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>>57064223
Any reasoning for the msi board? This is the mATX board i'm looking at.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/452121/Z170M_Pro4S_LGA_1151_mATX_Intel_Motherboard
25 bucks cheaper than the msi, the only difference I can see is the asrock has more usb3.0 and the msi has a few more native mobo display options, and better onboard audio.
Is 3000mhz ram worth getting over 2400?

>>57064356
No, a GTX 1060 is a much better option. Everything else is fine.
>inb4 hurr Vulkan + DX 12 futureproof meme

>>57064403
If you actually went to the link I posted, you would see the price of the bundle I am referring to with that motherboard and the 6600k.

>>57064413
Good luck keeping that budget under $650 when nearly 40% of it is going into a gpu that is going to age like milk, though that is a non-issue.

The real issue with the 1060 is that it is out of budget for the price unless you buy the cut down version and even that is pushing it.
Really you need to settle for a card under $200 at that budget unless you really skimp out on other parts, which is pretty hard to do with what I already suggest which is basically the minimum of a PS4 killer.

>>57064461
If you can't spend an extra $50 on a GPU, go back to consoles. PC isn't for him if he's not willing to.

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what do you guys think about this + a 980? since i'm upgrading for VR, i'm wondering if there's any benefit to a 6700k instead of a 6600k with vulkan and dx12?

>>57064476
>muh poorfag argument
It's called a budget.
Just because you get baited into buying the next $50 tier increment doesn't mean everyone else should.
With your logic, why didn't you buy a Titan Pascal? It's only $1000 more. If you can't afford that then maybe PCs aren't for you.

>>57047320
Doing a 4k/1440p build for 120fps, how's this look? I have a budget of $2k, and I'm looking into doing a custom loop in the future. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vC2ZQV
>>57064000
Nice trips

>>57064403
Yes 3000 is worth getting over 2400 because if you're already OCing your ram you might as well do it better
Whether or not it's worth getting ram faster than 2133 at all is up to you

>>57064542
Nice strawman. All I'm saying is the gains you get for $50 is really nice. That nets you double the VRAM for an RX 480 or 1060.
>hurr games will never use more than 4GBs

>>57064461
The MSI combo is 270. The Asrock board I posted and the 6600k is 245 w/ $25 rebate.

>>57064543
4K gaming is unrealistic with that setup even at 60fps
120fps/1440p is doable though, maybe not on 100% of games with a 1080 but the majority for sure
Looks alright overall

>>57064543
I sound like I'm meming, but a Titan might be justified in this situation.

>>57064573
>>57064585
Thanks for the advice, I'll just stick with 1440p. I might do a Titan build in a generation or two though.

>>57064604
1440p is good, but if you're wanting crazy high framerates, a G-sync monitor might look better than a regular 120Hz monitor if you're not always getting 120fps
I don't know 1080 performance accurately enough to say that it will or won't hold 120fps constantly at 1440p, but if it doesn't, g-sync will help with that

>>57064566
Looks like the motherboard you posted is $75 after rebate with the $200 6600k bringing it to $275.
Very competitive with the bundle I suggest after you apply the rebates to yours, but not that big of a difference.

Seems both would work.

>>57064559
First off it isn't $50.
When the 470 4GB is going for around $180-190 and the nearest 1060 6GB or rx480 8GB is around $250-260, the difference is more like $70. That is a whole $70 that could be used for anything. You could invest that or use it for something you care about more than a little box of electronics you sit on your desk.
Saying that there is a magical cutoff at $700+ dollars where PCs are useful simply isn't true.
Something that is worth less than $300 now could still play the classics.
Also for price performance I would actually suggest the 4GB rx480 at $220 before the 1060 6GB.

I also think it is funny that you show scorn for "future-proofing" with DX12 support when you place so much value in VRAM.

I see a lot of dx12/vulkan AMD vs nvidia stuff, don't both 480's and 10-whatevers support everything?
Or is it just the optimizations through different APIs? Is that even the APIs/GPUs fault or the game developers?

>>57064681
DX 12 is a dumb meme, VRAM isn't. Idiot.

>>57064743
But anon, even regular ram is a dumb meme

>>57064731
It's just AMD shills who want to justify their shitty purchases.

>>57064743
DX12 won't be a meme in a few years.
Maybe over 4GB of VRAM will stop being a meme around that time too.
For now 4GB is enough for most people.
People were dumb enough to buy a 3GB card I am sure that it'll be fine.

As it so happens vulkan isn't a meme when it comes to lower end hardware.
I cannot speak for dx12 in particular, but DX11 is cancer and opengl support isn't always better.

>>57064819
But what does it mean?
Who's to blame when a 480 beats a 1060 in vulkan but loses in directX?

How much money do you think a 1080 ti will be?

>>57064821
>a few years
Vulkan will have taken over in a few years and DX will be a bad memory.

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Does Windows 7 run normally on modern hardware?

I read all about how hard installation is but not actual performance.

>>57064848
800 US dollars or a little bit more.

>>57064864
1080 or 1080ti?

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I'm a retard who can't manage cables. Is there a guide somewhere?

>>57064876
>Google 1080 prices
>significantly less than 800 USD or more
Obviously I'm talking about the 1080p

>>57064876
*which should I get

>>57064878
put cables through holes and tuck them into where you can't see them until it looks good

>>57064731
It doesn't make a huge difference, but AMD has the lower middle of the GPU market this generation until Nvidia releases a card that most Nvidia fans would say isn't worth the price/performance anyway.

>>57064819
Actually it was someone who brought up the gtx1060 that immediately started spouting the old shitflinging with >inb4 hurr Vulkan + DX 12

>>57064839
The cards themselves were designed with particular focuses in mind, but a lot of the action comes from drivers as well.
Just look at the improvements that drivers get over time for a particular card. Once a certain standard gets more popular, more funding will be dedicated towards optimization for that standard.

>>57064851
One can only hope. I somehow suspect that won't happen though, since lazier devs will always want to stick with what they already know.

>>57064900

The end result is still a jumbled mess of shit near the bottom of the case, or the wires are so jumbled in the back I can't screw the lid back on.

>>57064920
So make it until you can put the lid on
The point of cable management is to not have to look at it, that's about it

>>57064950

I thought the point of cable management is airflow.

>>57064920
Unless they are getting caught in the fans or are preventing you from closing the case, cable management amounts to almost nothing in terms of performance.

There was a video where someone tested this and it took shoving random junk and clothing into the case for temperatures to be affected at all.

Just don't worry and learn to love the tangle,
or contain it with zip ties, modular PSU, and cable routing as best as you can.

>>57064970
No that's 98% meme.
Maybe in an ITX case with half a dozen hard drives and fans literally making a solid wall of cables inside your case but then you should be watercooling in that situation anyways

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>>57064984
>>57064988
>I was being tricked this whole time

Thank you /g/

>>57065019
>being this autistic

Anyone use the Phanteks enthoo pro case? Is it any good?

>>57065057
https://youtu.be/cBhmn21ylkc

>>57064681
Don't forget about the 30 dollar mobo+cpu discount. With that factored in, the msi is 270, while the asrock is 245.
Btw, is asrock okay for mobos? The reviews are good enough, but i'm not familiar with them.
Also yeah, it seems like the rx470 is the sweet spot for price/performance at that price point right now. I think that's what i'm gonna go with.

>>57065057
It is nice, but incredibly large, as expected of a full-tower case.

In my mind there is no reason for a normal computer to ever require more than a mid-tower, and even that is only for enthusiasts who are overclocking with a large HSF or are using SLI/Crossfire with multiple GPUs.

Never will you need 8 expansion slots in a normal computer.
I would urge you to consider the smallest case that can still accommodate all of your parts, as size is as much a factor in looks as the rest of its design.

Also windows are gaudy in my opinion I'd rather have a refrigerator.

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>>57065129
The motherboard is good, but the $30 off is only with certain motherboards. My original link features all the motherboards that qualify sorted by CPU.
The Asrock is not on that list.
With that factored in there is a $5 difference in favor of the MSI.
You might as well go with the Asrock though if you like it.
After I looked into it, the MSI one had some BIOS problems a while back. Not sure if they've been fully fixed yet.

>>57061935
Senpai, please tell me your secret to keep that i3 at 32 celsius. I have the exactly same cpu and the temp hovers at 44. Also
>fujitsu
Pre-built?

>>57065174
Try adding the asrock and the 6600k to your cart, it'll take the 30 off automatically.
Looking up reviews for it on newegg, it seems like there are more DOA's than usual, but I guess if you can just take it back to microcenter it shouldn't be a problem. I really don't feel like blowing 150+ on a mobo.

>>57065225
Really? Well that sure is handy.
Guess I was overthinking that page then.
Odd that they don't have a comprehensive list of compatible motherboards, but hey, I'll take it.

Guess I owe you $30 then, thanks!

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Thanks for the help everybody.

With the $650 budget I have and your recommendations, I'm looking at pic related at the moment:

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PMVH3F

I already have a basic keyboard and mouse on my end, and the case has two built-in fans, so I skipped on buying any (have to check how wise this is).

The purchase is still a ways off since I need to think about the OS, but any possible adjustments I should think about?

>>57065247
Yeah, I thought that page was weird too, lol.
I might just go with the msi or something else anyways, I figure the 6600k will probably last me 7-8 years, may as well have the mobo be as bulletproof as possible.

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Would a Bequiet dark rock 3 be enough to cool a 6800K?
It's has a similar performance to Noctua NH-D14


Please answer fast, I'm shopping for a build and am stuck on the cooler

>>57065327
The 6800k has a reported tdp of 140W according to Intel.
That cooler offers a 190W tdp of cooling.

Theoretically, it should work.

>>57065357
Well, I will want to overclock it to 4.2ghz and afraid that it won't be enough.

Mainly afraid because people keep telling you can't run x99 on air.

>>57065383
The previous i7-6950X could get to 4.2GHz on air, and it had a 140W tdp.
I don't see why the i7-6800k would be any different.

>>57065304
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/H6B9KZ
Switched for 2133 RAM since it's the max speed anyways.
Got you a better version of the RX470, it's worth.
Swapped the 60$ Roswill for a 30$ Thermaltake with dustfilters on both intakes and 1 fan preinstalled, you can get 1-2 bequiet! 10$ fans for the front.
Regarding the monitor, try if you can find a used 24" somewhere on Ebay or so. A used BenQ 2450 should be pretty cheap and is good for gaymin. It has shitty viewing angles, but which low end TN panel has not..

>>57065461
Thanks.

>>57065493
I want 3200 ram that has the hyper x heat spreaders

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>>57065493
Thanks a lot mate, I'll definitely look into it.

>>57065615
>3200 ram
>muh heat spreaders
It's like you just want to throw your money away.

>>57065639
>He doesn't have 128 gbs of 3400 ram with 4 titan xps with a case constructed with nothing but leds and intake fans while being internally water cooled

>>57065701
>128GB RAM
>he doesnt get 128TB of RAM for in memory data storage
It's like you're poor or something

>>57065733
>he doesn't have 1PB of cpu cache

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>>57065701
>no overclocked quantam-computing monitor

>>57065747
>>57065760
>plebs aren't using Borg technology

>>57065788
>Not using Zerg certified RAM.

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Can I put PC2-6400 in a DL380 G5 Motherboard?

All the official documentation seems to list only PC2-5300F but there are some people selling them while listing pc2-6400 installed (I assume they just fucked up).

Cheapest CPU that won't bottleneck a 380x?

>>57065998
i76700k

>>57065998
i76950x

What USB flash drives are bootable? I need to install >Windows on my first build and don't have an optical drive. The two I bought from the store are both not bootable.

>>57061597
>Best value CPUs have always a 6600
But that's not the i5 6500, of the current lineup

>>57061638
If you're streaming I'd say go with the i7. No idea how resources are allocated to VMs, but you definitely want a lot of RAM. 16GB may not be enough for multiple VMs

>>57061719
1080Ti, like the other anon says. 1080 sucks for value

>>57061827
More RAM, a graphics card, and an SSD will make it tolerable

>>57061585
Don't buy 3TB drives, they're unreliable. Get either 2 or 4TB, preferably from HGST

>>57062185
Nothing wrong with Intel LGA 1551. Kaby Lake (the next CPU line) will be released on it.

Unfortunately you'd have to wait for AM4 if you want a socket with upgrade options

>>57062396
Try for ITX if it's really such a low power build.

>>57062701
Neither of those CPUs, either get the i3 6100 or i5 6500
Get a Z170 if you want to keep the socket

>>57062831
The 480 is a little weak for 1440p. Get the 1070 (better for ITX) or wait for the 490. CF is a hassle, often unsupported, and hot (bad for ITX). No reason to mGPU yet

>>57062863
Could get the (small VRAM with no texture compression) 4GB Fury, but the 490 will be significantly better