Who else will be giving these pieces of shit less money when

fuck comcrap

>>56998169
Nobody because there's no alternative, newfag.

>>57000230
nobody is suggesting an alternative, mr comshit shill

just get tmobile with unlimited data and tether from your phone for needed work or school stuff and use the unlimited data on your phone for everything else.

Only in murica™

>>57000642
I thought T-Mobile didn't let you torrent without raping your speed with unlimited data. Can you get around that nowadays? Them not allowing tethering notwithstanding.

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>>56998169
>already don't subscribe to tv
>on lowest speed tier
deregulated monopoly op pls nerf

>>57001559
you're the ideal model. they think they can recoup losses with caps so, make then lose far more by cutting back. if they try and jack rates to respond, drop them entirely and do what >>57001332 said

>comtrash btfo

>>57000642
Lol, no.

>>57001597
>losses
>implying telecom monopoly has ever been anything but pure profit

>>56998169
>file a informal complaint with the FCC
>nothing gets done, another complaint added to the over 5000 complaints already
>reluctantly purchase unlimited data

>>57002133
>purchase unlimited data
I just signed up for their gigabit over docsis 3.1 for $70 a month and it includes unlimited for free. The only other choice is AT&T DSL at 24 mbps.

>>57001559
this

the plan im on with time warner isnt even advertised online, you have to call and ask (2mbps for $15/mo flat w/taxes included, own my own modem)

now that charter bought time warner hopefully i'll get grandfathered in since their lowest speed tier is $40/mo

wrote my representative, BS canned response letter. complained to FCC, unanswered

now comcast rolling out caps.. we're getting raped.

>>57002191
Are you OP? If so, Comcast has been building up their west coast backbone so that they get the faster speed tiers first because they're scared shitless over Fiber competitors.

Shame that's never really gonna happen for Chicago or the south (less Chattanooga)

Isnt it like a terabyte as a data cap?

Why do you faggots think metered internet is not OK while metered electricity is?

around 2020 5g wireless will be a thing and mobile providers will offer fixed wireless broadband that will compete versus cable docsis 3.1. This will cause competition to happen.

menwhile my 500/500 connection is being upgraded for free to 1 Gbps

no data caps 27€ per month

>>57002727
Because electricity costs money to generate

>>57002727
when did the electric company charge you per use PLUS a flat fee regardless of use? If the internet companies want to do metered then they got to stop charging the flat rate fee. I use 1gb in month should be like $5 not $50 plus $5.

>>57002756
Are you planning on buying a bunch of hard drives and downloading all your steam games?

>>57002789
No flat rate or bust no meters no limits jusy a flat fee for unl8mited use anything else is a rip off

>>57002792
why would i do that? i can download any Steam game in 5 minutes if i want to play it

>>57002762
So does software and media. But I guess you just pirate everything.

>>57002792
you are implying he is filthy rich he can buy vidya like if it were bubblegum.

>>57002810
Because you can and why even wait five minutes when it can just be there?

I wouldn't be caught dead with Comcast. I even shitcanned Time-Warner when they were considering a merger with Comcast.

>>57002819
thats a shit example because you need the internet to consume media. who are you trying to defend because from a capitalist standpoint what the internet companies do is not capitalism. Are you a corportist shill?

> imblying you can actually download more than comcast's datacap using comcast

hahahhahahahahahahaha good one

>>57002819
Yes but the ISP has nothing to do with the cost of generating software and media i pay for that buy buying the rigths to use it thi has absolutely nothing to do qith the ISP

>>57002727
Why should I pay more for metered internet when customer service is still shit? Why should I pay more when internet outages still exist? What changed that I have to resort to metered internet other than the unlimited that pretty much was the standard?
It's just a way for them to make more money without doing anything at all. If they were legit competition to say, google fiber, then maybe I'd consider it. But they aren't even close. In fact, they have to almost straight up lie and send out fliers to people in google fiber areas to pretty much beg/blackmail them to stay.

>>57002884
>I use 1000000x more bandwidth seeding anime porn than my neighbor who just checks email but we should both pay the same!

>>57002884
This if google fiber came into my area i would switch over in a heartbeat wouldnt even give it 5 seconds of thought

>>57002914
Because it costs the ISP next to nothing do you not understand this?

>>57002914
you really are a corporate apologist.what the ISPs do is not capitalism is corporatism where they lobby aka pay politicians not to allow competition. Google FIber stalled because ISPs made politicians prevent Google from using utility poles.

>>57002928
They have to lay out more cables at the node layer to fill transfer your anime porn.

>>57002962
But they literally never do of they where laying cable at the rate some of them charge overages we would have an infrastructure to be proud of instead of one to hide they are just gouging thats all they wil never make any improvments

>>57003009
If Comcast wants to raise prices they will raise prices. I'm not defending them raising prices. I'm asking why you deserve to pay the same amount as your neighbor even though you use more resources.

>>57002727
electricity is regulated in simple terms and has clear costs to generate, also the meter is right on the house/building

under what comcast is doing the possibility of them scamming people isnt just high, its likely with unclear costs and impossible to verify meters that they operate, solely, without oversight

trust but verify, thats the real problem with it beyond obviously abusing near monopoly status

>>57002962
if they upgraded to fiber than they wouldnt need to lay new cables ever fucking time an autist downloads canadian moose hentai. copper not only has less bandwidth but it fucking rots.

>>57003037
Because the resources dont cost anything the only reason electric comanies can charge by use is because it costs them by use

>>57003054
If they upgraded to fiber they would have to lay down 100 units of fiber for you and 1 unit for your neighbor. Why should you pay the same?

>>57003067
It costs money to lay down the cables.

>>57002819

Holy shit. Never thought I'd witness a barely functioning retard on this board before. Here it is. Good job bud!

>>57003045
You can install software in your router to meter the amount of bandwidth you are using and verify that it is the same as the amount stated by your ISP.

>>57002917
>>57003037
That's also on comcast. Why shouldn't they have both a flexible plan and an unlimited plan?
Keep everyone on a flat rate + overage fees and the cash flow is consistent with even more possible profit.

>>57003087
They are not laying down any cable though if they where like i said we would have the greatest infrastructure on planet earth the fact we are laughed at by most countries in the world tells me we dont and its not worth giving the isps more money

>>57003108
They do have an unlimited plan.

If they wanted more profit, they could just raise prices for everyone instead of for only those who use more data. Why is the first option more justified than the second?

>>57003087
>lay
Haha they aren't even doing that. they are going to docsis3.1 instead of futureproofing their network. Why you think they don't want competition? Because new competitiors would go straight to fiber which would force them to do the same. You are a corporatist shill. This shit ain't capitalism or free market.

>>57003166
You're not getting the point. If Comcast wants money they will raise prices. Why should they raise prices for everyone over raising prices for their heaviest users?

>>57003106
so its on the consumer?

we're talking wireline access to home or business, not wireless. if they want to meter access they need to be regulated as a utility and install meters that can independently verified

i have no problem with for-profit companies doing whatever theyd like but this is a rigged market. theres a reason gas and electric companies are regulated the way they are. its going to go that way with isps also. people will only tolerate so much and theyre pushing it

>>57002789

There has actually been a lot of talk about making Internet a utility.

>>57003193
Because there is no justification for it and they are in a positioon where people do not have a choice but to use them they have no option to switch if they are disatisfied

>>57003230
So are you saying that you prefer raising the prices for everyone instead of putting the burden on the heaviest users?

All these cable companies are losing TV Ad revenue due to streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, etc. so they are going to recoup it some way or the other.

It sucks, but it's just the way it is.

>>57003249
heaviest users are forced to business class.

>>57003209
The problem of ISPs having a monopoly is orthogonal from their pricing structure. If independently verified bandwidth meters could be installed than why wouldn't a metered pricing structure be fairer than one with a flat fee?

>>57003249
Im dsying they should be told they cant raise prices without commiting to fixing the shit tier infrastructure and then yes everyone should see the price raise having to change your life style over a greedy company is unnacceptable

>>57003277
Ok, but what does that have to do with metered vs flat fee billing?

>>57003291
Because it should only be flat fee no metered period i should never have to limit myself what the hell am i suppsoee to do if i run out of bandwidth twiddle my thumbs?

>>57003312
Pay more. Like you do with gas, water, and electricity.

>>57003323
Interent doesnt costthem anymore so why should they charge more? Talking to you is like talking to a brick fucking wall why is it fair at all to charge 50 fucking dollars for 10 gigs?

>google is supposed to come to city for years
>still nothing

>>57003352
Of course internet costs them more. When you use more bandwidth the local nodes get overloaded and they have to lay down more cables.

>>57003367
They dont its painfully obvious they dont why are you going around in circles? We have been over this twice now

>>57003276
>The problem of ISPs having a monopoly is orthogonal from their pricing structure

isp pricing structures are a direct result of their monopoly status in the areas they operate and the core issue that needs to (and likely will be) addressed

>why wouldn't a metered pricing structure be fairer than one with a flat fee?

their costs have to be established clearly and openly, this entire debate has been beat to death and settled with traditional utility companies years and years ago. this is no different. keep in mind we're talking about companies with a 97% profit margin from internet access customers who are wireline subscribers. fair has nothing to do with it when you have no alternatives. its simply not a free market, therefore it needs to be regulated as such

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You're about to get tricked OP

>Pay $180 for triple play
>Even if we severely downgraded our TV and internet plan, and got rid of the phone plan, we would STILL be paying about $180 a month

At least the internet service itself is good though.

>>57003411
If so why even charge for internet at all? The cables are already laid down when you move into an apartment. Why can't they just give away internet for free?

>>57003429
And all traditional utilities have pricing models based on usage. So if internet becomes a utility, why shouldn't it also be priced the same way as other services?

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>tfw 60 mbp/s uncapped
>tfw $30 per month

>paying an extra $50 just for fucking uncapped connections
On the bright side, comshit may eventually become uncapped.

>>57003437
Because they have some costa obviously just not enough to justify 50 bucks for every 10 gigs someone goes over maybe 20 cents per gig would be more accurate

>>57003467
I was never referring to the actual cost. I was talking about the pricing model.

>>57003456
Data is not comparable to resources like water or electricity.

They do not suffer from giving a flat rate for uncapped service with a bandwidth limit like a water utility company would from allowing someone to use as much water as they want without charging them for it based on usage.

>>57003487
The current pricing model covers the costs well no need to change it

>>57003510
Gas and electricity may be that way, but water itself as a resource is extremely cheap. It's the delivery of the resource, keeping the pipes maintained, building tanks, etc, that make up most of the actual cost, just like with internet.

>>57003537
Then they should lower the prices for those who use less data and increase the prices for those who use more.

>>57003456
>So if internet becomes a utility, why shouldn't it also be priced the same way as other services?

if and once wired internet access is a utility, i'd have no problem with it being priced similar to the way other utilities like electricity are priced.

electricity companies dont advertise things like 'unlimited electricity for X dollars per month' only to hit people with overages once they went over an arbitrarily set cap.

the problem is that isps are not regulated as utilities and abusing that by implementing policies like the example above

>>57003552
No they should not everyone should pay the same

I swear im typing to a brick wall here

>>57003510
>Data is not comparable to resources like water or electricity.

Hahah good one, tell that to Hiro.

>>57003567
Why? Those who use less bandwidth use less resources.

>>57002952
Dammit. That'd be my only chance at anything over 3 down/1 up. At least there are poles out in the styx.

>>57003600
Bandwidth is cheap why do you want to leave me with no internet at all? If i have to limit myself or be responsable then its not even worth having

>>57003618
So as long as it's cheap it's fine? If someone who uses 100 GB a month pays 10 cents and someone who uses 1TB a month pays $1 then it's ok?

>>57003618
No it should be a flat rate for everyone like i have been saying

>>57003661
Why? Because you personally are a high bandwidth user and don't want to pay more?

>>57001332
if you use a VPN, they can't discriminate against your traffic

I went on their unlimited data plan as soon as they announced it. For about a year I was doing at least 200-300GB a month. Alot of it was torrents, and I didn't hear from them at all.

This was about 2 years ago, though. Not sure if anything changed since then

>>57003670
Yes why would anyone want to pay more for the same thing?

>>57001332
they claim its unlimited but then when I hit a gig they slow it down

its a total con

>>57003702
So why should the low bandwidth users want to pay more compared to what they could be paying on a metered pricing structure?

>>57003717
Because it would cost the isp money for some users to only pay 5 dollars a month

>>57003729
There would be a base charge plus a separate charge on usage.

>>57003740
Thats so much worse so what 50 dolllars a month plus bandwidth?

>>57002551
Not OP, live in Nashville TN and we will never get google fiber at the rate they are going. At least I can get gigabit downloads.

>>57003754
It's not about the actual prices. It's about the principle. How many times do I have to repeat this?

>>57003740
That's probably not gonna make you pay less, just make some other users pay more.

>>57003767
The other alternative is to make everyone pay more.

>>57003762
And buisneses do not run on principle they run on profits they dont care if someone who uses less pays the same as those who use more

Still uncapped in most of Virginia according to the press release.


Northern virginia has multiple gigabit ISPs now, They have serious competition with Fios and local fiber ISPs in central eastern virginia.

They're only capping the bumfuck hic part of southwestern virginia where there is no competition.

>>57003711
>its a total con
I don't even have T-mobile but how in the fuck is it a con? It's spelled out pretty fucking clearly that you get unlimited speeds until you hit that data amount and then they throttle a lot of stuff. They're not being dishonest about anything Tyrone maybe you should get a real fucking job to afford a better service.

>>57003785
If they don't care then why shouldn't they switch to that model as long as the total income remains the same? This would also incentive people to be more prudent in the amount of bandwidth use. A seeding ratio of 2.0 to 100.0 has little impact on the user doing the seeding but has real impacts on the ISP.

>>57003821
>seeding ratio

And they dont swtch to that model cause many would just opt to not have internet in their home at all

>>57003834
Which would be made up by the higher charges for those who are putting the most strain on the network by seeding 24/7.

>>57003847
Or they could not rock the boat and keep things the same as they are what would you even consider a high bandwidth use?

my grandma pays for my comcast i only use the xfinity hotspots and watch tv online.

Anyone here in the bay area use sonic? How is it? I've been thinking of switching to that.

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>/g/ doesn't have 200 mbps dl and 25 mbps ul fiber to the home for $60

>>57003804
bandwidth says unlimited, and its not spelled out clearly at all. its in microprint on a gigantic contract.

>>57001332
In my region at least, for T-Mobile, unlimited tethering data is throttled to 128Kb/s. You have to pay per gigabyte on top of that to get full speed. In addition, they throttle certain kinds of data no matter what, meaning you'd have to also pay for a VPN server somewhere to always have full speed through it.

I've never had their television service because I'm 28 and television is the domain of old people.

I have their second highest internet speed but I am getting it for $10 cheaper for the remainder of the year because I bitch alot.

I really want to drop them and go to somebody else but they are literally the sole internet provider here in the middle of the farmlands.

I mean, I don't even have an option 2 that sucks, its just Comcast.

But don't worry its not a monopoly we promise.

>>57003786
I live in SWVA, it's nothing but price gouging and corruption here. Want 100m internet? $200/Mo please. Oh going with someone else? Enjoy your 3m speeds! All you have to do look at Shentel. Comcast>Shentel