/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

first for fuck >friendly fags

>>56914339
There is no need to be upset, friend :^)

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>Linux

>>56914416
That's GNU/Linux to you

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>>56914416
>Wincucks

how can I change the color of i3blocks text? it doesn't match the text color of other parts of my bar

What is /g/'s opinion on solus?

>>56915138
Never tried it, but why budgie over cinnamon?

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hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>56915502
oh look it's retarded Buzzword time again

>>56915502
The one I'm using.

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>>56914312
>installed Antergos
>want to reinstall Ubuntu
>Ubuntu's installer stops after checking the options concerning extra downloads (updates) and third-party softwares
>no notifications - it just stops
>tried with two 14.04 discs, so it's not the dvd's fault

What now?
I wanted to give Arch a chance, but I'm a noob and now I have no idea that this is an Arch-related problem or it's the hardware.

Any ideas?

>>56915822
>ubuntu installer stops
>is this an arch related problem?

no

>>56915822
>>56915851

Also: I've installed Ubuntu (14.04 - with the same discs - and 16.04, on the same pc) many times and this has NEVER happened.

Only after this Antergos install.
That's why I asked if there is a connection.

How do you manage multiple encrypted hard drives?

My current setup is a custom initrd that asks for 1 passphrase and unlocks all drives automatically. It's cumbersome to add new drives. I have to edit the initrd every time.

An alternative is to use the distro's default disk encryption for the main drive and store the passphrases for all other drives in /etc/crypttab.
I don't like that very much either.

How do you do it?

>>56915873
your harddrive is not even mounted when you run the installer, so how your problem be related to whats on your harddrive?

anyway did you try installing from a usb mass storage device?

>>56915822
>I wanted to give Arch a chance,
Don't fall for it. It's a bloated and broken piece of crap.

>>56915938
just like ubuntu

>>56915927
>your harddrive is not even mounted when you run the installer, so how your problem be related to whats on your harddrive?

I see.
Maybe I'll try with the 16.04 disc later.
I hope it's not a hardware-related problem...

>>56915938
>Don't fall for it. It's a bloated and broken piece of crap.

It's not bad ( I think), but a beginner like me can't really handle it.
I think I'll stick with Ubuntu, for now.

>>56915966
>just like ubuntu

You are not wrong.
But it's more beginner friendly, and many people (just like me) need that.

>>56915902
The setup you have is probably the best option you have. Honestly adding one line to your initrd config and rebuilding is less work than any other solution I can think of.

I run a VPS host server with 8 disks encrypted with exactly that same setup and ZFS layered on top, it works wonderfully. What exactly is wrong with your setup? I'm assuming you're only talking about fixed drives, not like removable USB disks, right?

What laptop brand would be fglt approved?
I decided to move away from windows because privacy isssues, but how do I know that there's no hardware backdoor for someone?

>>56916056
libreboot

>>56916056

>but how do I know that there's no hardware backdoor for someone

https://minifree.org/

>>56916094
What about microcode for things like cpu?

>>56916069

You start reading and suddenly this shit comes up "Libreboot quit the GNU project on 15 September 2016, in protest of discrimination against a transgender person at the Free Software Foundation."

For fuck sake, these people are everywhere...

Well thanks anyway, I'll do some research.

How can I get the sound working with arch linux ? I have a laptop with Intel hda.
Alsa is making me crazy!

>>56916123
It's actually just one person who is "in protest". Some people even left libreboot because they didn't agree. http://zammit.org/libreboot-screwup.html

>>56916119
you cannot get the botnet out of your cpu
>>56916134
is alsa unmuted? also install pulse alsa is a pita to use

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>>56916123
Saint IGNUcius already cleared the things right up.

>>56916158
Yes, it is unmuted. I suspect that alsa tries to output sounds from the HDMI port.
I was afraid of alsa and pulseaudio interfering together. I'm gonna install pulseaudio anyway.

>>56916177
pulse+pavucontrol is the easiest sound setup

>>56916024
>What exactly is wrong with your setup? I'm assuming you're only talking about fixed drives, not like removable USB disks, right?
It works but I'd rather have it fully automatic.

I could extend the initrd to simply try the entered passphrase with all LUKS partitions.

Then I can add/remove (internal) hard drives arbitrarily.

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>>56916171
Stallman saves the day again

>>56916194
You would still need to specify a map name as well as a mount point for all of these disks, which you would either have to do manually or write a script to generate a mountpoint.

If you really want to do this, you could probably accomplish it with a basic bash script run on boot. You can find all LUKS partitions in a parse-able format with "lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE -l"

>>56916241
The mount point is specified in /etc/fstab. I can tolerate editing that manually.
You're right about the map name though.
I could derive it from the ATA ID as in /dev/disk/by-id/...

>>56916189
Installed both.
I ran pavucontrol from a terminal. A GUI windows appears and says "establishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait..." But nothing happens. Is it normal?

>>56915502
4.8

>>56916134
Should've just use Windows.

>>56916241
>>56916248
P.S. Thanks for the inspiration. I have a few new ideas now.

>>56916251
did you start pulse?

also read the wiki
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting

>>56916171
Based rms
>>56916134
Select your intel hda in alsamixer and unmute.

Ah, didn't started pulse.

By the way, I installed GNOME and wtf the sound works... Even when I get back to openbox (with the exception of the built in keyboard keys for volume up / down /mute, but I guess that's a key mapping problem, not a sound issue).

I have no idea why it works... I wish to investigate what made change for pedagogical purpose but I don't know where to look at.

>>56914312
Holy shit I'm not usually into the whole being overly cynical thing, but this installation image is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

* 3x too big in dimension
* mentions tethering your fucking phone via USB instead of mentioning wifi-menu
* >parted
* create all filesystems twice because why not it's 8000 pixels in height may as well use it
* manually editing mirrorlist instead of using fastestmirrors like a normal person
* >cntrl
* pacstrap base-devel by default because everyone totally needs that shit
* >you can use -L if you know what you are doing
* I hope no one that knows what they're doing is using this image
* >YOUR_HOSTNAME_INCLUDE THE_QUOTATION_ALL_LOWER_CASE
* YOUR_NAME_ALL_LOWER_CASE and YOUR_NAME instead of just USERNAME
* you think maybe installing xorg is related to installing a display manager instead of fucking alsa?

This image is like the troll science of linux infographics. I hope it was made ironically.

can i use runit with openrc to replace sysvinit

do i have to replace sysvinit and openrc for runit

>>56916485
what's wrong with parted?
base-devel is expected for using AUR packages, chances are you're going to use it

Thoughts on msGNU?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaCbl2Lh0ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq9W2CEGxGU

>>56916485
* what is greentext

If I use date %+m in bash will I run into problems in august and september (08 and 09) because those two are interpreted as octal numbers? Can I get rid of that padding zero to avoid problems or just force the output to be in decimal?

>>56916557
Parted is fine, but creating all filesystems twice isn't. Either use f/gdisk and mkfs or just stick to parted.

base-devel should be installed if you're actually going to use it or if you're going to use the AUR, but it absolutely doesn't need to be installed otherwise. It should be an optional step, like packer.

>>56916516
>>56916560
>>56916573
>>56916614
Keep shitposting instead of responding to the substance, you know that image should be about 1/4-1/3 of that size and is only going to confuse people that try to follow it.

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>>56916573
Whoa, dude...

Like, whoa...

I think you, like, need to chillax or something, man..

Like, seriously....

That type of attitude is not healthy, dude...

Not healthy, man...

Just, like, sayin'....

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>>56916672
>there is no content because I say there's no content

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is there a program to convert odt/doc files to pdf?

>>56916720
libreoffice --headless --convert-to pdf *.odt

>>56916717
My bad, I was wrong there. It should have used "mkpartfs" instead of "mkpart" and then mkfs, it still would have saved that entire section.

>>56916729
su works just fine, you pleb frgt.

>>56916655
>creating all filesystems twice isn't
?

Speaking of sudo when will doas be ported to Linux? Does anybody know?

>>56916741
>>56916755

yeah but I don't want to install libreoffice just to convert files

>>56916792
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=odt+to+pdf

>>56916805
http://letmebingthatforyou.com/?q=Nice%20Meme

>>56916791

doas as in "do as" another user? su -c 'echo dicks' user

>>56916816
>just send your personal documents to some random website
sounds legit

>>56916817
http://man.openbsd.org/doas.1

>>56916852
functionally equivalent to "sudo"

>>56916805
enjoy your botnet

>>56916875
Except with sane configuration. Check doas.conf it's fucking amazing.

>>56916870
how are they supposed to convert your encrypted documents without the passphrase?

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Found this rms feet closeup.
Enjoy buddies.

>>56916806
fyi I'm the one that wrote the original reply to the OP and this post isn't me:

>>56916790

I have sudo (and all of base-devel) installed, it just certainly isn't necessary for every user, and jesus if you want to install sudo without installing fucking gcc then there's a command for that

>>56916898
uh, meant to quote this:

>>56916787

that isn't me

So, I want to finally make the switch completely from Windows to GNU/Linux and use it on both my notebook (which already has Gentoo installed) and on my desktop (gonna do LFS).
The only thing that I am missing on software is a replacement of Nagra's Manga Organizer.
I'm fine with any piece of software as long as it can scan a specified directory and has a search function plus tagging for easier searching.
Does anyone know of such a software?

>>56916928
It will propably run in wine, or use ahoviewer

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>>56916805
>>56916816

so you're telling me in this day and age nobody made a cli program to convert doc files?

>>56916946
they all depend on libreoffice

>>56916946
That's what you get with proprietary software.
All you can do is reverse engineering, since the format is not documented. So even when converting using the current programs you may loose data since these hacks basically fool doc to be "printed" as pdf.

>>56916946
yea, >>56916755

see the --headless option?

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how do I fix this? I'm inexperienced, so I don't know what command to run. I've tried letting the update run itself, and it didn't stop. I've also tried sudo apt-get update and nothing seemed to happen.

>>56916946
open office, libre office, both have cli converters

but srsly, who the hell is using .doc format in this day and age?

>>56917047
Open a terminal and run:
sudo apt-get install -f
and then
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

>>56917047
How did you install wine?

>>56917047
sudo apt-get install -f
sudo apt-get update

Look it up in a search engine next time.

>>56917079
>Look it up in a search engine next time.
fuck off, read the thread title

>>56917076
>>56917070
thanks guys, that was it

>>56916944
I don't want to install WINE.
But ahoviewer (at least from what I can tell) is more or less what I wanted.
Thanks!

What's the best distro for VMs?

Is there a way to try out Gentoo without the whole install process?

>>56917117
whatever floats your boat faggot

>>56917079
spastic

>>56917153
SHIEETTT

I guess Gentoo then my GIGANEET pal

>>56917117
most linux versions I've used over several years worked fine in a VM.. minus 3d graphics capabilities.

I want to learn Latex for simple college/work essays but everytime I try I end up installing a bunch of crap that I'm not going to use.
Is there a "minimal installation" of it?

>>56917285
I mean I want to use GNU/Linux as my base and run multiple VMs inside it. At least 1 windows VM. I'm tired of dual booting. What has best support for hardware passthrough? I'm guessing Gentoo because its light as fuck and can potentially run on two threads while I can dedicate real cores and threads to VMs. Getting an 6700k.

>>56917360
>I mean I want to use GNU/Linux as my base and run multiple VMs inside it. At least 1 windows VM. I'm tired of dual booting. What has best support for hardware passthrough?

not sure. the cpu you are getting (same as what i have) is incredibly awesome and more than capable of running VMs in a linux setup. I don't have any special hardware at all. intel gpu that came with the CPU, 16gb ddr4 RAM. no dramas running a VM of any kind from what I've experienced. I think you'll love that CPU. I know I do. :)

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>>56917485
Thanks dudester. The other thing I was debating is falling for the 32gb meme but I don't think its worth it yet.

I'm falling for all the /g/ memes at this point; gentoo, ssd, 16gb, animu, i7, memepad, mech keyboard.

>>56917566
>Thanks dudester.

you're welcome.

oh, check it out:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Intel-Core-i7-6700K/Rating/3502

;)

4th!

> i7 6700k
> <3

y0 fglets, I know about FF's SHIFT+F2 thing, but is there a simple cli program for creating website (fullpage) screenshots?

>>56917360
The only thing that really matters is keeping a close to mainline version of qemu. Gentoo would be fine for that.

For vfio passthrough, hardware support can be spotty. I run X99/5820k and it works perfectly. I've also used Z77 when it was a new idea, and it worked with some quirks.

A friend of mine runs Z170/6700k and she has problems with VMs after sleep, and general latency inside the VM. And all this after swapping the motherboard because the ASUS board was shit.

Point is, hardware support for this is spotty and a bit manufacturer-dependent. Try to copy someone else's build if you can.

>>56917633
Ff: f2+shift, screenshot --fullpage

>>56917633
firefox can do this, just hit shift and f2 and type:
screenshot --fullpage filename.png

>>56917800
>>56917691
Fellow niggers, a) I already told you I know about FF's screenshot feature, but b) I'm asking for a cli program so I can automate it.

>>56917820
Firefox can do this.

Hit F2 and Shift, then type "screenshot --fullpage"

>>56917820
firefox has a command line, hit shift+f2, shit brix

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>>56917634
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/B994pb

That's my current planned build. I just really want to do itx but its not set in stone yet. Where can I look for hardware support?

>>56917595
I hope I <3 the 6700k aswell :--D

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>>56917840
>>56917832
Seriously, what the fuck! I just want to take a motherfucking website screenshot without motherfucking SHIFT+F2

Hello. I'm having a problem with java script elements on here.

For instance when I hover over the post it doesnt' show the pop up window of the comment, clicking the hyperlink post number doesn't actually direct me to the users post either.

>>56917864
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LnGpTrXalwGVNy0PWJDURhyxa3sgqkGXmvNCIvIMenk/edit#gid=0

This is the only user-provided hardware sheet I've seen. You'll have to stalk the arch linux or Ubuntu forums to get a better idea of what everyone's running.

Z170 has implicit VT-d support, but not all mobo manufacturers implement it correctly. It is luck of the draw.

>>56917877
Since Firefox 32 there is also a full page screenshot button in the developer tools (F12). If it is not enabled go to the developer tools settings (gear button) and choose "Take a fullpage screenshot" at the "Available Toolbox Buttons" section.

>>56917864
I also entirely forgot, but only some Z170 boards have the correct PCIe controller required for ACS.

Sunrise Point-H is the only controller which has quirks built into the kernel (4.6+) for ACS.

>>56917946
dude...

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>>56917946

>tfw plasma 5.8 is finally released

Can't wait for it to show up in the Arch repositories. I really want to start using Wayland with KDE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgH1Clgr-uE

>>56917991
>he fell for the arch meme

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>>56917953
>>56917939
Fugg, looks like I will have to do lots of research to get this to run correctly. Its worth it to not have to dual boot the botnet though

I'm having a wired problem with Firefox on Arch. I use middle click to open links in the background a lot, but sometimes the click doesn't work and I need to click twice or more and sometimes it just doesn't work. What could cause this? Tested already with different mice, same problem. Other programs (like pasting stuff into the terminal with middle click) work always.

Any idea?

>>56918059
Yes, it is hard to get working. It took me a few weeks to learn everything necessary, but that was last spring when the documentation wasn't as good.

Visit https://vfio.blogspot.ca and https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/vfio-users if you haven't already. Alex does most of the work for vfio-pci on the kernel.

It was very worthwhile, for me. Dual booting is such a hassle since my workstation takes a minute to boot and contains hardware Windows can't use.

>>56918094
>Arch
found your problem, get a mature distro

>>56918094
>I'm having a wired problem with %s on Arch
That's basically what you get with Arch. They break a lot of compatibility and standards.
>linking sh to bash
>linking python to python3
etc.
Maybe they did another retarded thing that fucks with your mouse who knows.

>>56918191
>>56918115
Any useful answers too?

>>56918008
>>56918115

>complaining about arch

I get it that pure arch is a meme, but any sane people would use something like Manjaro instead.

>>56918059

I don't know who quote, but this is my hardware:

H170N-WIFI-CF
i5-6500
RX 480

And my Passthrough is working perfectly. So any chipset better than the H170 will probably work perfectly.

>>56918094
install gentoo

>>56918114
Hmm this is interesting. I feel like its a new type of technology that will become very big in the future. I can see it functioning with a powerful linux server that runs multiple VMs where each has its own separate input/output hardware.

>>56918361
Yes, that is the idea.

I remember a VPS host which leveraged the technology by providing Windows virtual machines with GPU passthrough, for streamed gaming, similar to OnLive (RIP). I can not remember the name of the company though.

>>56918094
got the same problem on gentoo and ubuntu and i also know a guy who has that problem on NT

I have a couple of Btrfs drives in RAID 1 (not sure if relevant) that sporadically will fail to mount automatically. Mildly annoying but not that big of a deal, I'll just mount them and get on with my life. Today, however, they've decided to not respect their designated mount point, instead mounting in /run/media/<user>/<uuid> which is actually very annoying!

I did the lazy thing and rebooted again but they wouldn't mount automatically again nor would they mount at the proper location. Any thoughts?

This is the relevant line in my fstab:

/dev/disk/by-uuid/a6b2805e-[...] /media/raid auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,x-gvfs-name=raid 0 0

>>56918919
are you racing with mdadm?

>>56918975
I've never touched mdadm, so I reckon that's unlikely.

>>56918975
btrfs has integrated raid1 support, since he didn't say otherwise, this is presumably what he's using, not mdadm

>>56919119
Oh, did not realize. Thanks

how can i download a whole youtube playlist as mp3 with best quality via youtube-dl? all the guides on the interwebs are old commands. please don't link me mp3 sites, they are not songs.

>>56917313
texlive-base, but i don't recommend it. what WILL happen is that when you try to use other people's format templates (which is 99% of the reason to use LaTeX, to get automatic god-tier formatting), it will spit out some error about a missing mathfig.sty or whatever and you will end up playing apt-file find whack-a-mole. you will probably end up installing most of it anyway

the reason texlive-full is so fucking huge is that it comes with a jillion fonts for every conceivable CJK language variant and symbol set. this isn't even necessarily a bad thing, it can improve your font stack a lot. texlive-full is the one megapackage i allow on new installs

>>56921793
youtube doesn't use mp3 natively, so the best quality would, by definition, not be mp3

best quality;

youtube-dl -f bestaudio <url>

transcode to mp3, if you must;

youtube-dl -f bestaudio -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 2 <url>

>>56917633
it's not clear to me what you're asking

if you want to take a screenshot from X in general the best CLI tool is import, from ImageMagick

if you want to automate screenshots from an automated browser I'd try Selenium? that will be substantially more involved

>>56917566
/g/ memes are memes but if you learn to program on the side somewhere in your 20s you'll realize you've achieved enlightenment

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>>56922150
I've been programming since I was 15.

First Android code blocks then Java then C and some python. Then perl. I'd say I'm intermediate level Java and C. I'm 18 now. What will happen to me in my 20s?

>>56922021
thank you, it works.

I'm building a general purpose Linux fileserver that's also going to host the odd Minecraft/Mumble/Plex instance.
I've been eyeing the Fractal Design Node 804 for a case (dat drive space).
I've been out of the loop for consumer-grade hardware and I've been wondering what /g/ would suggest for parts for this kind of build.


RIght now I'm looking at a cart with an i5-6600, An Asus M150 micro-atx mobo and a couple WD Reds for RAID storage.

Suggestions?

>>56922008

I'm on arch, do you mean texlive-core?

>>56922449
I think this is way overkill. A fileserver can easily run on a single board computer like a beagelbone, just grab some old used parts with low noise and power consumption.

>>56922885
depends on how much space (that is, how many drives) he wants. Also how many users he intends to support on the minecraft and plex servers. Transcoding needs some horsepower.

if he likes the idea of eight drives he's probably looking at more than a beaglebone could ever hope to handle.

>>56922961
True, but even then old used server parts usually make more sense than low core consumer grade hardware.

>>56922282
>
Suicide

>>56923004
mm, depends. Nehalem-era server stuff is cheap nowadays, and that's easily enough power to run the servers he wants to, and support a pile of drives in whatever RAID mode he cares. And he can get ECC RAM so the ZFS people don't yell at him.

He'll have to work harder to cool it at a decent noise level, though, and he'll probably have to give up on the mATX form factor.

>>56922885
>>56922961
>>56923004
>>56923061
Thanks a lot guys.

>>56917055
>but srsly, who the hell is using .doc format in this day and age?
Sadly almost everybody.

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>>56923048
Unfortunate.

At least I'm not a neet and am able to mask my pure autism when I'm with my friends and girls

>>56923310
wasn't me, i would have said template metaprogramming

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>>56923457
>Discovered accidentally.

Well then I'm excited

Is it a pain in the ass to get photoshop working with Linux? I don't play games anymore and really have no reason to use Windows, other than PS.

I'm not fond of Gimp.

>>56923677
Wine or a VM, the latter probably being better.

This is true of all other Windows applications as well.

What's a way of experimenting without fucking everything up ?
I just started ganooloonixing and I already have a "django" user on the login screen, a postgres user I don't even recall making and I feel like I'm gonna fuck shit up

LXC or something I don't know, how to sandbox my own dumb ?

>>56924100
Virtual Machine

>>56923677
VM. Windows is free and so are activators. Wine isn't very good except for some Office use. If you are going to use Windows apps there's no sin in using their OS to run them and VMs are nicer to deal with (Snapshots for example) than bare metal.

Why isn't Plasma 5.8 released on Arch yet?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anyone have a recommendation for a good textbook notation calculator?

- zsh + oh-my-zsh
- google chrome
- sublime text
- infinality
- arch linux
- flash
- numix
- skype
- steam

thanks for listening and feel free to contribute

Ordered a Thinkpad, which linux dist would you suggest? I know a bit of linux and run Debian on my server.

>>56924138
aint that a bit heavy

>>56924608
depends on your PC?

I've done Linux VM's on an i3-4130 with 8gb ram, allowing the VM 4gb.

>>56924636
why containers are a bad idea ?

>>56924679
imo just easier to not fuck up a vm like virtualbox

>>56924588
>autism

>>56924783
What do you need flash for?
Unless you find software exploits for a living.

I'm trying to troubleshoot the audio on my Ubuntu installation, but don't know where to start.

I can only start music (using either Spotify or mpd) if there's already an active audio output (for instance if I play a video with audio in VLC). When the music is finally playing, I can quit whatever application "initiated" the audio output.

How do I begin troubleshooting this? How do I pinpoint what part of the audio stack causes the lack of sound? AFAIK Spotify does NOT depend on Pulseaudio, hence the audio flow looks something like this:

Spotify -> ALSA -> Pulseaudio virtual device -> ALSA -> speaker

How can I check that each component receives the input?

>>56924362
What is this, a list of looser apps?

>>56925036
>spotify
>>56924362
add this

>>56925085
>apps
Kids these days. These things are called programs.
An app is a program that does apply a specific task of a program.

Fucking jobs.

>>56924971
pretty much just one site and they are supposedly switching to html5 before the end of the year. So hopefully I can rid that garbage off my system.
If it makes you feel better it's set to Never Activate and I only toggle it when i need it

>>56925192
I think everyone will be relieved when flash finally dies.

>>56925218
It's already dead. There are only 2 kinds of people who still use flash: Retard webdevs who can't into HTML5 and /f/ wankers who can't into GNASH.

>>56923287
Where the hell are you?
>>56924362
Is this a fglt bullshit bingo list?

>>56925723
>fglt bullshit bingo
someone do this

What's a good Linux distro to stick on an HP Elitebook? It''s quite old, first gen i5 but has 6GB RAM. Battery isn't great, new battery only gives me a couple of hours. Sick of Windows 10 and MS's shit. What's likely to work well, give good battery life and not too many problems with peripherals?

>>56926020
http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/flavours

Disregard all other recommendations.

>>56926020
Debian if you're new with lxde, Debian minimal if you know what you're doing

i just installed a fresh copy of debian

nothing is installed i.e. no de, no printer sever, ssh server, etc.

im at a shell

what do i do now?

already did

apt-get install update

and

apt-get install xorg

still debating what de to use

but my question is should i add non-free repos for drivers and firmware?

what are the pros and cons of this?

how should i go about it?

How can I make my vim (and I guess my terminal in general) look less basic bitch tier? I thought I could just grab a theme for vim and call it a day but all it did was change the text. Urxvt also refuses to change the black background to the hex I gave it.

>>56926139
http://blog.z3bra.org/2013/10/home-sweet-home.html#term

>>56926132
Does your hardware work without nonfree drivers?

If yes, there is no problem.
If no, then use nonfree drivers unless your religion prohibits them.

>>56926132

yep. add non-free repos.

use:

sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
edit to_>
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free

save, and execute this:

apt-get install xorg slim xfwm4 xfdesktop4 xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-panel xfce4-power-manager thunar thunar-volman terminator pulseaudio pavucontrol dkms gcc make linux-headers-$(uname -r) firmware-realtek firmware-atheros firmware-iwlwifi wicd &&

reboot. enjoy.

debian + xfce + pulseaudio + utilities.

what is your graphic card? nvidia is very ez to install

>>56916134
pulseaudio -D

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>>56914416
>>56916485
>>56916791
>>56917285
>>56917485
>>56918361
>>56922449
>>56923677
>>56924383
>>56924636
>>56926020
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>56926638
thank dr stalman

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RB9yqDe6hAq

>install gentoo and it takes about 4 hours to fully install
>reboot
>realize I forgot to install network drivers

Well looks like I'm going to be re-compiling my kernel again.

>>56926743
>forget the chroot part
>do everything in the live image
>reboot
>nothing happens
At least you didn't fail as bad as me senpai

>>56926206
it does work but my display/desktop seems laggy and clunky...

>>56926575
cheers my old video card is a nvidia gts 250

>>56926767
When I was installing Arch, I accidentally did this but I (somehow) caught myself.

It's not like it mattered though, I ended up fucking up that install completely and had to format and try again. (separate hard drive)


The kernel just finished compiling and eth0 still isn't showing up like it did in the installation disk, my ethernet adapter is "Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I217-V" in case anyone wants to help.

I'll try rebooting and I'll post if it works or not.

/g/, I've a bunch of opus files and I want to tag them, is there a simple cli program?

>>56926780

;)

apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms
then..
mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

and...

echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf

>>56927000
thanks qt

>>56924204
>isnt very good
[citation needed]
cs6 works flawlessly

Is there an alternative to Virtualbox/VMware that just werks?

>>56927181
qemu

>Just deleted my Arch dual boot partition today before I saw that Plasma 5.8 LTS was released

Well fuck, running it in a VM just isn't the same

>>56914312
So i did

make
then
make istall

After this, what do i do with the folder i compiled the program in? Do i put it in a root directory? Or do i delete the folder?

So if I run something not as root, is the only thing it can damage is my home folder?

>>56927346
Yes

>>56927346
>>56927360
*In the best case scenario.

There are bugs and vulnerabilities so it could possibly crash things or escalate it's privileges.

>>56927411
Maybe if you are running debian like an legit goon bag

>>56927436
If you are using xorg (just an example) it's a given that an application could escalate it's privileges and fuck shit up. They discover xorg bugs every other day it seems.

>>56927360
>>56927411
Thanks, I guess I was just being paranoid.

>>56927436
>>56927477
>xorg

so like what is xorg exactly? :/

do de require xorg? :/

>>56927279
It depends. No idea what distro you're using but on Debian based systems you have "checkinstall" which basically generates a package and installs it so you can remove it later.

Most programs include a uninstall function in their Makefiles, so if you want to remove the program, keep the directory, otherwise you need to re-download it, because nobody knows what was installed where.

I personaly deal with this, by keeping a ~/.git/ directory where I put all my git shit in. This also makes it easy when you want to update your programs.

>>56927535
xorg is what is used to draw things on the screen in most Linux distributions, if you have a GUI you're probably using xorg but you shouldn't worry too much, an application running as your user can do what you can do. I was just saying that you shouldn't blindly trust things.

I ran 'pacman -Syu' and it crashed X so I rebooted and now my root filesystem is fucked.
What do? I'm planning on reinstalling arch but I'm worried about my /boot mount point being complicated and I DO NOT want to have to fuck around with broken GRUB again

>>56927610
>>56926638
also there are more window systems than xorg

>>56927658
do de and windows systems need xorg?

>>56927633
>arch linux
Your own fault. Stop falling for /g/ memes.
>>56927670
xorg draws the shit, wms move the shit, compositors change shits appearace, des are just suits of programs (inclusive wms), so basically whatever you install nowadays, you always have xorg (or wayland maybe in the future)

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>>56927705
I don't think that wayland will ever replace Xorg unless redhat is forcing it like systemd.

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>>56927633
Bleeding edge strikes again, archfags will defend this.

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Any Qubes users here? I just got it and it's a nice change of pace. I'm slightly confused, but there's plenty of documentation so I'm not worried. Just curious about others' experiences or tips.

>>56914312
Can anyone give me some salient pro/con comparisons between debian and arch? Or a recommendation of another minimalistic distro? Building a PC soon and I've used arch for the last year on my laptop (Failed dual booting attempt, overwrote windows on first install)
Here's everything I really noticed about arch in my year of use. I am nowhere near proficient, so forgive my sins in terminology and comments like "The engine of the car is heavy, it'd get better gas mileage without it"
+Enjoy the minimalism, nothing really on there that I didn't put
+Actually enjoyed the setup
+Wiki was great and saved my ass plenty of times
+I enjoy my tiling (bspwm) window manager with multiple screens I can flip through, without a proper desktop
+Enjoy being able to update whenever
-Didn't really enjoy being forced to what felt like latest unstable builds on everything when I did.
---Often download packages and completely forget about them, install other redundant packages and use them instead. So many packages completely forgotten.
-After downloading/installing nvidia drivers and getting it working, ended up having to fiddle with them again after an update.
-Not a fan of the whole AUR system, would've rather had it work like pacman did, perhaps with a warning instead of putting so many hoops in place.
-A lot of the initial setup things I don't have firm grasp on because I didn't have the experience to put them in context, some assistance in the setup or easier to follow instructions would be welcome

>>56927783
Thread derailed. See you later guys.

>>56926831
Well that was complicated, but I got it working.

Apparently eth0 just disappeared for no reason and I had to redo everything with enp0s3 (and manually install with the livedisk and mounting and such). I also had to edit my /etc/hosts because I had that formatted wrong. Finally I had to follow the symlink instructions listed in the handbook. (I'm just explaining this in case anyone else ever has a similar problem and looks this up in the archives)

>>56927783
Debian is shit, avoid Debian. Other than that it doesn't really matter what you use.

>>56927829
Debian is a poor derivative of Ubuntu. Install Ubuntu or Mint, forget Debian.

>>56927783
If you want a minimal distro with up-to-date packages get a Debian netinstall, configure you kernel with drivers you need and change your repos to Sid (unstable).

Debian is better because:

- you only get botnet drivers you really need
- more lightweight because packages are splitted
- values standards and is compatible

On Arch you get:

- all botnet drivers enabled, even if you don't need them
- packages aren't splitted, you get more MB with one package than on any other distro
- breaks standards, you need to figure out what broke why and how to fix it

>>56927904
archcucks will defend this in 3..2..1..

Does anybody have that picture that shows idle RAM usage of different DEs?

>>56927932
>archcucks will defend this in 3..2..1..
I don't value my time.

>>56927935
Before you proceees, stop thinking about RAM on Linux the way you thought about RAM on Windows. http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

>>56927279
You should look at your package manager and see how to create a package. Installing out side of your package manager can lead to dep hell and nightmares.
It isnt hard to learn how to make packages.

The only exception i would consider, is if it is a standalone program that build up to a binary that you dont "make install" you jut put it in your path and you can run it like normal

>>56927965
>I don't value my time.

The Arch Way.

>>56927968
I literally just deleted my Arch install because I upgraded my RAM to 8GB so I can run it in a VM instead, I just want to see how they compare to each other

>>56927865
>>56927829
>install Ubuntu or Mint

read this: https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
tl;dr Linux Mint is a badly broken frankendebian hack, that needs to blacklist packages so it doesn't fall apart completly

Cannonical is bad too since it activly hurts the linux community by porting ubuntu to Windows 10, and don't forget that Ubuntu was the first distro which shipped spyware.

But in comparsion, Ubuntu is babby-easy and you get at least basic security (updated packages), it's a good start for newfriends; they just need to switch to something less retarded when they feel save enough.

>>56927633
>>56927741
Samefag

xorg-server has not been updatecd since july 20th 2016

Nice meme

>>56928099
all that effort for low quality bait... you must be bloddy new here

>>56928099
To clarify, I meant avoid debian and all its children.

>>56928123
I can't hold all these arguments you gave me, fuck. I guess I get rid of Debian right now!

>>56927904
>all botnet drivers enabled, even if you don't need them
>arch has default drivers for a larger amount of hardware then debcuck
>You will customize kernel for your system,something debcucks cant handle with there 5 year old software
>splitted
kek
>/etc/makepkg.conf

OPTIONS=(strip !libtool !staticlibs emptydirs  noman nodoc purge !optipng !upx !debug)

> breaks standards
[citation needed]
If upstream dosent do it, it isnt done.
>figure out what you broke
You would know what you broke because of logs, and also knowing what you changed previously
Like any distro :^)

>>56927904
Arch sucks. Try running a python program with code that isn't supported by python3. It will work on every distro except on Arch. Why? Because Arch devs are actually SO MOTHERFUCKING RETARDED that they think python3 is the new, bleeding edge version of python, lol.

What a crippled distro.

>>56928177
w-what?

>>56928197
he's referring to arch linking python to python3 instead of python2 (the default python), python and python3 are incompatible..

>>56928197
He's saying arch doesn't have python2 by default so if you have old python scripts they won't run.

>>56928210
>default python
Then why was python 3 pushed or even created? Why not have a python2.9?
Are you using linux v1.0?

>>56928197
Arch does a lot of crap in order to be "THE NEW SHIT", in this situation they thought that Python v3 is just a new version of Python so they linked it system wide for all Python programs (which basically breaks all Python programs which are incompatible with Python 3). So retarded.

>>56928235
Python 2.7 is still very popular, that's why other Linux distros default to it.

>>56928225
python2 scripts work on arch, but you need to change the file and add a "2" to make them work without problems, not much work to be honest

I just installed Debian on my main machine. Trying to get steam on it but i'm having all kinds of problems and the top 10 google searches aren't helping.

I basically need 32 bit architecture but nothing I put in the repositories works and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade are giving me errors that some index files failed to download. Shit is annoying.

>>56928265
Sure I was just explaining it to that guy.

>>56928246
Update your scripts?
The amount of time you guys bitch about it, you could have updated every python2 script in the world.
Should websites use HTML1 and PHP1? for the sake of "compatibility?

>>56928262
>popular
Flash is still popular
DOWN WITH HTML5
WE DONT NEED IT
IT IS BREAKING THE INTERNET
FLASH IS THE ONLY OPTION

>>56928270
Have you enabled i386?

dpkg --add-architecture i386

>>56928235
>Then why was python 3 pushed or even created
I ask myself the same thing about libraries that don't have major dependency breaking updates for over 2 years and then suddenly come out with a brand new version that nothing works with.

Seriously, a feature of python 2 was being able to do: print "hello world" but now in python 3 you have to do print("hello world") which breaks extremely simple programs for absolutely no reason. Same thing with try/catch blocks, exception handling, and some return statements. The libraries and dependencies are a bit different, but they aren't completely different, so you can still run old code but you have to fucking reformat it all to get it to compile.

Besides, I've yet to meet anyone who says python 3 > python 2.7 (and actually have an argument)

>>56928306

I type that into the terminal as root, nothing happens.

is dpkg something I just type in? If I just copy paste that into the console nothing will happen.

>>56928292
found the guy who doesn't realize that python 3 isn't "just a new version of python", jesus, newfags everywhere

python3 is basically rewritten python, which is incompatible with every other previous version of python

previous versions of python got updated without changing the "python" prefix, but since python3 isn't compatible, it got it's own prefix "python3"

by linling python3 to python, arch fucks your ass

>>56928321
It's probably enabled then. Have you enabled non-free repos?

Also here's the wiki: https://wiki.debian.org/Steam

>>56928357
>enabling non-free repos

I shiggy diggy.

>>56928370
stallman pls im sry

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>>56928309
so html,php,sql,perl,python,C,C#,C++,javascript
They call changed
So they shouldn't have changed?
Do you realize what backwards retarded programs and services we would have?
I mean shit, sh and bash have changed structuring over the past 40 years. Was it all for not? Was it a pointless change?

>didntthingsogranpa

>>56928348
>incompatible
update your scripts/programs.
Change isnt scary
You can do it bukko

Here i will hand hold you on your outdated trash setup
HERE WE GO

unlink /usr/bin/python
ln -s /usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/python

JESUS FUCK
HOLY SHIT
LOOK AT THAT MAGIC
OMFG

So I'm having some problems in my fedora installation. su and # commands aren't working, they don't fail or give me any error messages, they simply don't do anything. sudo works fine. What do? Also, the duplex orientation from my printer is always wrong, unlike in windows

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>>56928399
That's exactly what I want when I install a GNU/Linux distro; being bothered with fixing broken shit.

>>56928408
I really hope that this solution doesn't work, because I refuse to believe it.

When the installation says to do this:

# sudo su
# ifconfig -a

or something similar, are you actually copying the # with it? If so, the # is just to tell you that you're sending commands at a kernel level. You don't need the # before every command.

>>56928357

Yeah, I had that done already, still not working.

>>56928421
now imagine that you don't know why program xy broke and imagine all the google searches until you discover why what when broke
welcome to arch linux

>>56928456
Well, there's the Arch forum, you just search for your problem .....

>>56928472

>first line will print foobar
No, it'll print

-bash: sudo: command not found

since he's still installing fedora.

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>>56928421
>>56928456
So instead of moving foreward, you'd rather sit back and jack your tiny dick and refusing to change?

Stay on unbutu with their 5 year old technology and built in botnet

>inb4 install program and cant read man for your usecase

bahahhahah

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>>56928482
That's exactly what I want when I install a GNU/Linux distro; being bothered with searching forums in order to find solution to fix out-of-the-box broken shit.

>>56928493
No he's not.

I don't know where else to put this, so I'll ask here. I really enjoy the principals of open source software and community-driven projects compared to depending on a corporation which never has your best interests at heart.

What is this ideology called? I'm writing applications to grad school that is science related, so I can't just start talking about free software. It all ties into the idea that sharing research in academia is my preference than working in industry where everything is kept hidden.

Power went out while doing a full-system upgrade on Arch. I know it was upgrading the kernel, and maybe systemd? Idk, but now everything is fucked.

Managed to boot into liveCD and downgrade the kernel to the previous version, but now it keeps giving me an error every time I try to use any command like update-grub, dhcpcd, lsblk, or most other commands, to the point where the system is still unusable. So far I still can't boot into the system without booting into a LiveCD and chrooting.

Here is the error:

error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libudev.so.1 file too short

Basically keep getting that no matter what I do. Tried upgrading the system again, still can't do anything.

Am I fucked? Do I have to reinstall? I'm retarded and never backed up my system or made a restore point.

>>56928504
dumb frogposter

>>56928524
Yeah I realized I was wrong right after I pressed submit.

>>56928499
>built in botnet

breaking: literally everything that connects to the internet deemed a botnet by top autists at /g/ more at 11

>>56928451
Kek, I actually thought # was it's own command. My bad. How about the duplexing thing? Already set up the printer with hplip, keeps printing the other side upside down. Long-edge and short-edge don't change a thing.

>>56928551
The only thing more confusing and time consuming than a gentoo install is setting up printers. I can't help you out here, sorry.

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>>56928530
Open Source is basically what you're searching for. It makes development much more easy and efficient because you get ideas and bugfixes in lightspeed. Free Software is added ideology; while Open Source basically only allowes you to look at the code, Free Software gives you the 4 freedoms you need to make your changes reality.

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hey /g/, what's the most bloated and difficult distro for use on weekends?

>>56928661
Arch Linux

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>>56928661
arch

>>56928661
D A N K
A
N
K

>>56928661
>for use on weekends
Why not go out and do something fun on weekends?

>>56928538
please help me I'm dying inside and I hate using my Windows laptop

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>>56928705
get >>>/out/ and get laid with your normalfag psychopaths fucking normie

>>56926733
holy shit thats actually him
absolutely fucking based

>>56928717
I assume you tried reinstalling libudev

>>56928744
yes, doesn't fix anything

>>56928661
>most bloated and difficult
Gentoo if you make a script to download and install absolutely every single package.

>>56928772
I haven't used arch for awhile but there is pacman -Scc that will clear the cache and make it re-download the package
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Cleaning_the_package_cache

>>56928839
Alright, I'm gonna try that when I get back home and if it doesn't work I'm gonna try and reinstall the system while keeping the home partition

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>sudo apt-get install programName

And then it just installs it where ever. How do I tell it where to install it to?

>>56928958
Literally do a search for "sudo apt-get installs where" and you get this as the first result.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/408784/after-doing-a-sudo-apt-get-install-app-where-does-the-application-get-stored

>>56928958
As far as I can remember, you can't do that with apt-get install. yeah, I know, blame apt for being crap. You can, however, do it by download the source file yourself and unpacking it in the desired location.

Please note that installing a program with apt doesn't install it in a single directory, but places its components in many different folders. Binaries in /bin, config files in /etc, data in /usr, for example.

>>56929034
>Please note that installing a program with apt doesn't install it in a single directory, but places its components in many different folders. Binaries in /bin, config files in /etc, data in /usr, for example.

What's the general consensus on this? Is it really a good idea to place all the components in different folders?
I clearly know nothing about computers, but it would make sense to me to place the program and all of it's components in the same place.

>>56928990
I know it's pretty weak of me to ask, but a lot of the time I'm genuinely interested to hear what /g/ has to say.

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I have this OC present for /fglt/.
I hope someone likes it.
Oh, and it's totally useless too.
https://paste.teknik.io/raw/cXRHE

>>56929110
I don't really know why it's done this way, but installing/uninstalling is done with the package manager anyways, so you never need to be concerned with the location. Now if you're editing a config file or something, that's a different story (probably located in /etc)

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>>56929120
Is this 1337?

>>56929145
Looking for a given program's dotfile can be annoying. It might just be in ~.
or in ~/.<program name>/
or ~/.config/
or ~/.config/<program name>/

>>56929187
I don't think so. Got the idea from "sl" which is as 1337 as cowsay. Have some real 1337 shit:

install-gentoo() {
    str="${@:-Install Gentoo}"

    clr() { printf '\033c'; }; clr

    while :; do
        printf '\033[%s;%sf\033[%sm%s\033[m'      \
             "$((RANDOM%LINES+1))"                \
             "$((RANDOM%$((COLUMNS-${#str}+2))))" \
             "$((RANDOM%8+30))"                   \
             "$str"
        read -s -n 1 -t .01 && clr && break
    done

    unset -f clr
}

>>56929034
You can't do it in any package manager AFAIK.

I'll add to what you've said, you can see use dpkg -L >package> to see what files a given package installed and where they are.

>>56929110
>What's the general consensus on this? Is it really a good idea to place all the components in different folders?
>I clearly know nothing about computers, but it would make sense to me to place the program and all of it's components in the same place.

In Linux (all Unix-like operating systems really) the binaries are in one place, the libraries in another place, the configuration files in another, etc. Why? Imagine a library that's used by two or more programs, where should that library be? In both folders? That would be a waste of space. The solution is that there's single place for libraries. Configuration files are almost always either in /etc if they are system-wide or in your home folder if they are user-specific. Binaries are almost always in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, etc.

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>>56929240

>tfw no ubuntu final 16.10 until Oct 13

>>56929319
>>56929240
>>56929120
can't decide which one is more useless

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What's wrong with Arch? I started using it and it seems fine so far.

>inb4 he fell for the arch meme

>>56929416
If it works for you there's nothing wrong with it.

t. Debian user

>>56929416
For the average user there's nothing wrong, only if you care about freedom, bugs are easly fixed.

>>56929319
>doesnt form the gentoo logo when it finishes
trash

Whats the most customizable distro?

>>56929482
Gentoo (not even kidding)

>>56929482
arch, you can customize it from the start

>>56929482
fedora

>>56929482
Source based distro are more customizable (at least the programs at compile time), that said, this nigger >>56929492 is a faggot; ALL distros are customizeable in the same way like every other GNU/Linux distro. Why? Because everything is FLOSS, so you can customize, configure, hack whatever, whenever you want. For a lightweight start, most distro provide a netinstall, which comes only with the base stuffs and you decide what DE or what WM or whatever else you want to install.

>>56929482
>Whats the most customizable distro?
For daily use or for weekends only?

>>56929482
The one I'm using.

>>56929556
The one you're using is bad. The one I'm using is better.

>>56929545
Why does it matter?

>>56914312
still needs wifi-menu

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>>56929500

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>>56929545
for nightly use

nu-thread: >>56929598

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>fedora issued a statement not to use "dnf update" on 24 until a bug is fixed
>used dnf upgrade instead

>suse is one of the most popular distros
>suse is literally never talked about here
Why is this?

>>56929442
>freedom
>being a grown man and understanding that software will not come through my screen and physically hurt me

Tell me what firmware you flashed to your:
NB controller
SB controller
SATA controller
USB controller
BIOS/CMOS controller

Surely you support the 4 freedoms and have ample software to replace these dirty disgusting proprietary shit bags?

Oh
Right

HYPOCRITE

Why are my webm's coming out larger then the input source?

ffmpeg -loglevel panic -n -i "$0" -preset ultrafast -vf scale=640:-1 -b:v 1M -an -sn -vcodec libvpx -cpu-used 8 -threads 8 -crf 51 -fs 1.9M -movflags +faststart

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>>56930713
It is?