Daily reminder that strong encryption is for criminals

I'd like to make transactions online and not have my bank account plundered by Paco(You)

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>>56900614

You don't need strong encryption for that. I said "good reason", not "poor excuse".

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>>56900647
haha! great thread, mate! you got me! xD

>>56900670
Laughter is the argument of the idiot.

Didn't expect anything else from encryptards though...

>>56900600
In some shitty coutries forbidden to be a gay for example, in some shitty countries also forbidden to have another religion, drugs, porno, prostitution, guns so on.

>>56900701
>shitty countries
Pretty much the exception that proves the rule, m80.

>>56900701
This, on the assumption that any of those laws could come back to civilised countries at any time at which point you're fucked because they're unlikely to grandfather in your 3 terabytes of HD bara porn as an exception

>>56900722
>In some states of USA
>All over Europe
>Australia
>Russia
>Japan
>China
>so on.
Even if I'm not a criminal I want to be free, I don't want to be under control.
I respect my freedom.

>>56900701
>>56900748

>encryptards actually have to come up with literal extreme fringe scenarios to justify their lunacy

Wow, literally grasping at straws at this point.

I work in the R&D department of a very big company.

>>56900748
I don't want internet to be cesored, I hate censorship which Google, MS and others corps implement.
I dont want to be fucking brainwashed 'patriot' like Russians, North Korea, China,

>>56900788

What are you talking about? Patents are open documents.

>>56900600
>Name one good reason to use strong encryption if you're not a criminal
The company I work for has valuable intellectual property (aka source code and blueprints), and they would go bankrupt if it got in the wrong hands.

>>56900788
Yes, may be I need it for work, maybe I develop some nice technology, not /g/shit.

>>56900811
Patents are, intellectual properties are not. See >>56900812

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>>56900812
>>56900828

>intellectual property

>>56900600
I do whatever I want faggot

>>56900600
You're only a criminal if you get caught.

>>56900779
>literal extreme
And saying only terrorists use encryption isn't extreme?

>>56900600
>Name one good reason to use applied mathematics if you're not a criminal. I'll wait.

>>56900832
Stallman would oppose banning strong encryption too, so shut it.

>>56900811
Do you think the patent's ready 3 seconds after we have a rough idea on what we're gonna do ?

>>56900833
++you

Anti-encryption fags are even worse than anti-vaxxers. Fucking retards.

>>56900848
you = me++;

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>>56900838

No, it's just the truth.

>>56900779
Governments + affiliated agencies, businesses, banks, and more use it, too.

Anything worth protecting for long term storage (e.g. your diary, emails, the cure for cancer, etc) should be encrypted.

>>56900600
give one reason that you'd care unless you work for the nsa or cops.

also blocking industrial espionage is a legit answer.

medical secrecy.

>>56900861
Banks use encryption. Is OP saying that bankers are terrorists?

>>56900840

>some purely random mathematical sequences by mere accident produce moving pictures that photo-realistically resemble the image of a 10-year old girl having sex with a 42-year old man

>i-it's just math, g-guys

>>56900858
Terrorist use encryption != only terrorists use encryption
Fuck off with your shitty bait threads.

>>56900858
No fucking shit they use encryption, they want to be safe. Banning encryption will not fix anything you fucking imbecile, said terrorists would make their own messaging apps with their own encryption, which would make it even worse. Criminals always find a way you mongol.

>>56900844
No one's suggesting we ban encryption, only that we have secure backdoors for our own protection.

>>56900701
So you're literally saying people need encryption to break the law?

>>56900899
>secure backdoors
Oxymoron.

>>56900886
You fuck off, Muslim Brotherhood shill!

>>56900899
There are already enough backdoors.

Some backdoors are protected by governments and later discovered/used by criminals against the citizens the governments were supposed to protect.

>>56900647
Why?

>>56900899
>forced backdoors through law
How is this not banning strong encryption?

So-called "safe" backdoors is a meme. If the NSA can crack it, Russia and China can crack it too.

Do you really want your medical journals to be stored with weak encryption? Do you want your monetary transactions to be encrypted weakly? Do you want state secrets to use weak encryption?

>>56900899
Hardcoded passwords and backdoors, yes please.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/03/iot_botnet/

Wow, NAMBLA encryptard Internet Defense Force out in full force this morning!

>>56900885
>if it's against the law it's wrong
Whew lad.
>500 years ago
>OP is a fag
>being a fag is against the law
>OP gets hanged
You hypocrite :^)

Anyway, a criminal is not the person looking at the random image, the criminal is the one who had sex with the girl.

>>56900915
>Muslim Brotherhood
The Muslim Brotherhood was disbanded because they weren't salafist enough desu senpai

>>56900938
Get fucked, ISIS shill!

>>56900600
This shit again. It's like argumentation that everyone owning a knife are criminals because knife are used in crime.

I seldom use encryption but my university forced me to use it or I'm unable to check my performance result outside university intranet.

>>56900915
Fuck off conservative totalitarianism shill!

>>56900779
Not only do you not know what the word "literally" means, the fact that you think those countries amount to a fringe case confirms a few stereotypes about Americans and their knowledge of geography.

>>56900967
Fuck you, western degenerate homosexual. Your very existence is an offence to Allah.

>>56900600
I have lots of nudes

>>56900968
HTTPS is arguably strong encryption. Pretty sure you use that often.
SSH is strong encryption, I guess people on /g/ use that from time to time.

OP, please post your social security number, bank balance, date of birth and full name. Who needs to hide this if not a criminal?

>terrorists use encryption
they don't though, they already proved that in france when they caught the plain text SMS's.

>force backdoors
great idea, now all the hackers have to do is break into that instead of installing their own.

Even though I lock my bathroom door, doesn't mean I intend to do something criminal in there.

Anti-encryptionists are just Indians in disguise. They want us to poo in designated shitting streets rather than in loos.

>>56901000

>OP, please post your social security number, bank balance, date of birth and full name. Who needs to hide this if not a criminal?

Show me the warrant, fuckface.

>>56900885
No said encryption == random number generation. You have a fundamental ignorance of both math and reading comprehension.

>>56901001
>great idea, now all the hackers have to do is break into that instead of installing their own.
That's not how asymmetric backdoors work, you fucking moron. You should have stayed in school.

>>56900832
What is the Chaos Magick sigil doing there?

>>56901034
>Needing warrants in some warped fascist, police state dystopia you wish for

>>56901034
You conveniently avoided the question: do you only visit HTTP websites, or are you a criminal? Because that was your loaded conclusion.

>>56900858
Well, one thing wrong about that picture. Pedophiles are not hunted harshly at all. They are just used as a boogeyman for these kinds of fearmongering "news".

>indecent cartoon images
In what kind of shithole country is loli hentai illegal??

>>56900600
this thread is saved and encrypted.
the key will be uplodaded to tpb

>>56901097
UK, I think.

>>56901034
Identify yourself right now or I will assume you are a criminal and report your IP to the feds. Post your personal data and a recent picture of your face.

>>56901097
>In what kind of shithole country is loli hentai illegal??
In the UK. Was a guy that got 6 months in prison because he had some lolicon on his computer.

>>56901048
if you're trying to imply that backdoors can't be broken like pretty much everything else I chuckle.

you fucking piss sweat mongoloid cunt. I can call you names too.

>>56900600
i use only "moderate" encryption. is that ok?

>>56900600
>Daily reminder that strong encryption is for criminals
Daily reminder that pants are for criminals if you dont have anything to hide you could just wear skirts and be ready for unwarrented searches of your body cavities

pants = criminal

>>56900600
Name one good reason for posting anonymously on 4chan if you're not a criminal. I'll wait.

>PROTIP: you can't, OP

>>56900600
I use encryption for my passwd's that's about it. So there's your reason bitch

Name one good reason for shitting behind closed bathroom doors instead of in nice dedicated shitting streets. I'll wait.

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>>56900600
>constantly hear about email/personal information leaks on the news
>evil hackers out to hurt people
>that one 3rd rate terrorist with an iphone
>encryption is evil and only protects pedophiles and terrorists

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>>56900647

I mostly just do it because it's fun and I compete in competitions for security (ex; the Cyber Patriot). I'm pretty sure most people do it just because it's fun. I have to admit, it is nice knowing that everything I do is completely private. No one need to know I watch embarrassing videos on how to style hair.

>>56901097
>In what kind of shithole country is loli hentai illegal??
France

>>56901204
Giving up to eat shit already, huh kid?

>>56901048
You're retarded. You're pretty much shilling mind reading and totalitarianism.
>2100
>people can transmit data from brain to machines and vice versa
>people encrypt their minds
>faggot OP is pro-mind reading, continuous tracking and total control over society by a small minority of people
This would work if people were mindless, emotionless sheep or machines but shouldn't be implemented into anything other than the strategy and sims games you've been playing in your basement. Do the society a favor and kys.

>wife is very jealous, invasive and spy-ish
>she works at forensic

Only solution i have to keep things private is strong encryption.

>be Christian
>French Revolution 2.0
>Revolutionary Government can see that I browse christian stuff on the internet
>or that I think my local priest is a sympathetic guy
>or they saw in my chat messages I dared to say 'mister' instead of 'citizen' like it is now mandatory
>get guillotine'd

mmh, although your current govt shares your values/principles/beliefs, or even that you trust them enough, will it be the case with the next one ? or the one after ?
You still gave them the power to do what they want, even though it wasn't intended for them.

>>56901453

What are you even trying to hide from your wife?

>>56900950
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>56901535
Lot's of things, but none of them are illegal. And none of them are of your matters.

>>56900600

for protests?

>>56901565

Cheating bastard.

>yfw every time someone wants to justify encryption their motivation is some wrongdoing

>>56901587
>cheating
Nope.
>wrongdoing
Neither.

Just report and hide
>>>/global/rules/3

I work in education and it is illegal to let the personal and academical Information of my students be unencrypted in my Country.

>>56901675

See >>56900899

>>56900858
>Media doesn't know the difference between encryption and steganography
>Criminals were arrested and prosecuted despite encryption, but think of the children please.

>>56901699
>>56900899
There's no such thing as a secure backdoor.

>>56900600
>Name one good reason to use strong encryption if you're not a criminal.

Why does the government use encryption then?

>>56901708

Wow, you're ignorant. Stop spreading FUD from ISIS.

>>56900600
My wife and I like to travel and record ourselves fucking at different places. We don't want all our god damn neighbors, let alone anyone else knowing about it.

>>56901742
0/10

>>56900600
I like to take legal pictures of females that I don't want to expose. Is that good enough to you?

>>56901745
Fuck off, NAMBLA shill.

>>56901955
Fuck off NSA shill

>>56901955
>>56901980

Quality debate.

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>>56900600

Online banking, protecting data from state actors, prevent eavesdropping from bad actors. I'll wait for you inane replay.

>>56902135
See >>56900899

>ITT: contrarian encryptard anarchists whining because their party's gonna be over soon

Public opinion is against you and so are most politicians - including BOTH presidential candidates. It's only a matter of time now until encryption is regulated and secure backdoors enforced. Stay mad.

>>56902226
>implying people couldn't just make their own encryption
Kys conservatard

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>>56902226
>secure backdoors

surely this is a shill thread lmfao

Because hate speech laws undermine our freedom of expression.
White power

>>56900670
Le vintage troll facez ;D
Upvoted

>>56903033

Please stop spreading the myth that asymmetric backdoors aren't possible.

>>56903755
Please stop spreading the myth that asymmetric backdoors are secure.

>>56903807

But they are, lrn2cryptography

>>56903846
If there's a backdoor, there's potential for abuse. End of story.

>>56900905
What is ethically right doesn't mean it has to legal

>>56900647
You're an absolute idiot.

>>56903869
That might be true, but with asymmetric backdoors, that potential is negligible. It's easier to break the cypher itself, at which point we might question why are we even using encryption at all by your logic.

>>56903927
Leaks happen

>>56903948
Leaks can happen to regular strong encryption too, you fucking moron.

By your ISIS-funded logic, we wouldn't be using any crypto AT ALL.

>>56903960
>pro-encryption = ISIS shill
Hi NSA

>>56900600
The existence of surveillance programs is "justified" by their conductors in terms of supposed benefits for defence and law enforcement, however this is also in conflict with the right to privacy established under various treaties, constitutions, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

>>56900600
Shut the fuck up bitch.

>>56900600
The NSA uses strong encryption so that means they're criminals.

>>56901728
I like how the anti-encryption trolls ignore the good questions

>>56900600
>Name one good reason to use strong encryption if you're not a criminal. I'll wait.
Name one good reason to use window tinting if you're not a criminal. I'll wait.

>>56904421

I like how no one has answered OP's question satisfactorily yet.

>>56900600
well...
i am you got me
what now faggot?

>>56904480
Freedom.

>>56904480
OP didn't ask a question, he demanded we prove his ridiculous statement wrong. Which has been done multiple times itt

>>56900600

Work for the government:

>Hurr, our data is so super sensitive! are you keeping it secure?

- Yes

>OMG criminal! terrrorist!

Jesus fuck this thread is entertaining. You can't script this kind of hilarity.

>>56904663
You can with Markov chains.

>>56900701
if you live in a shitty country then you can even get away with chill porns

>>56900600
Daily reminder that gun safes are for criminals.
Name one good reason to use a gunsafe if you're not a criminal. I'll wait.

>>56900600
Protecting intellectual property from all unauthorized entities is a very good reason to use strong encryption.

The federal government uses it for this purpose, for example. I agree that it's full of criminals.

>>56903846
If a backdoor is secure then why is a backdoor needed? Why not just use the standard method of authorization?

The more entry points, the less secure something is from being entered.

politicians will never ban encryption, because they have too much to hide

>>56900647
>you don't need strong encryption for that

What. Yes you do

>>56905959
If you don't keep guns caged they'll jump out and attack you, they're wild things that need to be held in containment.

>>56904663
/g/ is currently being brainwashed by fed and hillary shills. I don't know if this place is safe anymore.

>>56903960
You retard if encryption is banned by the US the only people who will be affected are normal citizens trying to secure their intellectual property. Make being in ISIS illegal, not using encryption.

If people won't stop being in ISIS because it's illegal then it seems really dumb to outlaw anything else to stop their activities.

Fact is you do need to protect IP from the government because they have been known to steal it all throughout US history.

In some cases, such as with nuclear research, they not only took all of people's research and used it to build the bomb, they didn't pay them and banned them from ever conducting that kind of research again.

"Certain forms of math should be illegal "
t. OP

>>56906239
>some purely random mathematical sequences by mere accident produce moving pictures that photo-realistically resemble the image of a 10-year old girl having sex with a 42-year old man

>>56900647

Yes, you do need strong encryption for that retard.

>>56906339
0/10

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>>56906585
>no retort
>just memes
Wew, pathetic.

>>56906568
No, you can use gov't backdoored encryption for that.

Strong encryption = military grade encryption.

Gosh, is it so hard to tell between military and civilian?

>>56906083
go back to /pol/

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>I need military-grade encryption to shop online and to upload naked pictures of my wife to dropbox

>>56906662
>you can use gov't backdoored encryption for that.

And why would I?

>>56906726
Why does it matter if I do?

>>56900600
If I am not privy to the logical and illogical thoughts and feelings of others, they are not to be privy to mine.

>>56906662
>mules use condoms to smuggle drugs so condoms should be illegal
I don't need a retort for someone that retarded
Also
>frogposting
Yeah you sure are making yourself seem like an intelligent individual worth arguing with.

Is Encryption on Android needed? How much more secure does it make my device?

Right now if it is not encrypted how is someone able to break in if it's password protected?

Another thing that worries me is battery life.

>>56906726
>military-grade
Nice meme

>>56900600
if all encryption is removed on the internet i will have to call my bank and cancel all my credit and debit cards, fuck you cocksucker

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>>56900600

The only good reason, because I want to.

>>56900832
Richard Stallman's brain has become so powerfully smart that his skull is beginning to crack, the brain is like a muscle and if you use it enough it will get bigger and stronger like the muscles in the rest of your body, and richard stallman has one of the strongest brains in the world

>>56906915
Freedom isn't free.

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Actually i can. Strong encryption to stave off military great asshole hackers.
You can never have too much encryption against Chinks and Ruskies, and especially against AIDS like OP.

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Yes encriptioan is evil! only terrorirst ecnript!!!
t. NSA

>>56900899
>Jamal you can't fuck my wife, but i won't bother if you put the tip in

>>56901587
>hiding information from obsessive control freaks is wrongdoing
Kys totalitarian scum

>>56900600
Burden of proof faggot