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Linux and GNU are finished.

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Daily reminder that GNU and Linux are finished.

There's a new game in town.

https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fuchsia
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How many times are you going to post this?
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>>56848354
Until the freetards accept defeat.
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>>56848347
no one with self respect will install this, shill
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but will it run systemd?
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>>56848386
systemd isn't portable to non-linux kernels, and magenta isn't linux, so no.
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>>56848396
There you go freetards. Now you have a reason to install Fuchsia.
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How many decades until it reaches feature parity with unix?

Also, will it be POSIX compliant?
Because if not, google can go fuck themselves.
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>>56848347
>>56848366
>Daily reminder that GNU and Linux are finished.
>Until the freetards accept defeat.
What is the problem with competition and why always someone wants one of the competitors to disappear?

If any we should be worrying about monopolies like Microsoft's on the desktop but not wanting windows to disappear but for it to lose enough marketshare to disable their lock-ins and allow healthy competition, just that.
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>>56848436
MIT, Apache, BSD > GPL

Go be a freetard somewhere else.
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>>56848347
What makes you think this won't turn into another Minix?

What makes you think this will "succeed" (as in, be acceptable just like GNU/Linux) on a desktop/server environment?

No trolling, just want your opinions on that.
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>>56848467
Nobody is confident that it will succeed. There are only people that hope it will.

Also it's designed from components meant for embedded systems, and it's probably going to target primarily phones and IoT devices despite their claims that it's meant to run anywhere
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inb4 it's Chrome OS: Another One
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>>56848366
This new OS is actually open source fucktard
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>>56848366
>Linux users = freetards
Stop that
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>>56848545
must be new here to not know what "free" means
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>>56848545
It's not GPL, so most of /g/ wouldn't consider it free software, fucktard.

>>56848569

It's why most /g/ users use Linux, faggot.
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>>56848594
>It's why most /g/ users use Linux, faggot.
Gonna need a source on that.
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>>56848619
Go ask in /flt/ nigger.
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>>56848621
>/flt/ = all Linux users on /g/
Fuck off retard
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>>56848347
>no gui
>no software support
might as well use fucking BSD
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>>56848632
BSD has GUIs and software though.
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>>56848594
You fucking mouth breathing idiot.
Even FSF admits that it's possible to write good free softwares without GPL.


Absolutely 0/10
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To be quite perfectly honest it does not look very impressive so far.

And since it's a microkernel I don't see how it intends to compete with Linux in performance.

Would you mind elaborating on why you think that Linux is finished?
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>>56848594
>It's not GPL, so most of /g/ wouldn't consider it free software
most of /g/ is retarded. Any software with a license that respects the essential freedoms is free software, and the MIT, Apache, and BSD licenses do.
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>>56848347
>cd
>cp
>echo
>ls
>mkdir
>mv
>rm
heheheheehehe GNU is already there

GNU/magenta is the newest meme kek
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>>56848629
>yfw writing this shitpost
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>>56848637
lol no
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>>56848638
>Even FSF admits that it's possible to write good free softwares without GPL.

Lol no it doesn't.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html

kys nigger
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>>56848651
>GNU/magenta
This has potential. Let's see Stallman's interjection applied to Magenta.
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>>56848654
Quit talking out of your ass, retard.
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>>56848632
/thread

OP REKT AND BTFO
BANKRUPT AND FINISHED
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So is that OS really pronounced:

Google Fucks Ya?

Google Fucks you?

Wat?
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>>56848660
Did you even read the page you just linked?
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>>56848660
Read it.

Also,
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html
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>>56848652
>shitposter calling others shitposters
How cute.

>>56848670
Man are you ever retarded.
ˈfyo͞oSHə
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>>56848670
Are you 9 years old? How do you not know how to pronounce fuchsia?
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>>56848645
>Would you mind elaborating on why you think that Linux is finished?

Fuschia will be backed by alphabet. Any of the performance overhead of microkernels will be overcome on modern hardware, and this architecture is better for IoT, which is the future, anyway.

>>56848646

Not according to comrade Stallman, faggot.
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>>56848660
Holy shit are you literally brain dead? Not even your link refutes me

Also see
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html

Idiot
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>ITT
OP getting thoroughly BTFO

What a shit thread
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>>56848685
>will be backed by alphabet
So is Facebook dead now, killed by Google+?

Since you do admit it will perform worse than Linux I honestly don'\t see how you can imagine it taking from Linux userbase. Switching to Google's OS would be a downgrade.
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Fuchsia will never be able to compete with Windows/MacOS AND Linux, it's too much to hope for the microkernel based OS to actually ever take off.

Anyway at least Google tried.
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>>56848673
>>56848675
>>56848687

Fuchsia is open source, not free software, so I am correct.

>>56848710

That was corp. v. corp. Linux doesn't stand a chance against Alphabet. Linux is going to get phased out like OS/2.

Google already controls the most popular Linux distros.
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Google Fuchsia, is in fact, GNU/Fuchsia, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Fuchsia. Fuchsia is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Fuchsia", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Fuchsia, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Fuchsia is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Fuchsia is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Fuchsia added, or GNU/Fuchsia. All the so-called "Fuchsia" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Fuchsia.
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>>56848729
The kernel is called Magenta, you faggot.
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>>56848721
You are not correct because multiple open source licenses are listed as compatible with FSF as clearly mentioned on pages linked.

>it was not the same thing so my generalization still works!
Fascinating.

You are still to explain why people would start switching to Fuchsia from Linux.
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>>56848721
>n-no I am correct
Here comes the denial stage

OP it's best to stop posting before you embarass yourself any further; no one ITT is taking you seriously


Also I see in your screenshot that many of GNU coreutils are already implemented on Fuscia. Who are you even arguing against? Fighting freetards with an open source OS? hahaha
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If you were explaining this to /biz/, how is this good for Microsoft if this kernel is widely adopted over the Linux one?
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>>56848721
>Fuchsia is open source, not free software
You are retarded. The GPL is not the only free software license, and free software is not mutually exclusive with open source.
Fuchsia is open source and free software
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>>56848736
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Fuchsia, is in fact, GNU/Magenta, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Magenta. Fuchsia is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Fuchsia", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Magenta, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Magenta is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Fuchsia is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Magenta added, or GNU/Magenta. All the so-called "Fuchsia" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Magenta.
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>New game in town
>It's a google's already failed dead on arrival side meme project

Top kek, OP hehehehe. Remember Chromebooks? Remember Golang? hehehehe you tried
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>>56848739
Fuchsia is not free software. The licenses it is licensed under are not being used in a free software way. It is open source only.

>>56848740

Fuchsia doesn't use GNU. It's completely new and doesn't use GPL.

>>56848741

Microsoft can make closed source forks of Fuchsia.
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>>56848801
See >>56848651


Enjoy your half assed chrome OS, phone poster
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>>56848801
Fuchsia is provided with MIT license which makes it free software according to FSF.
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>>56848665
Compared BSD to Linux, it doesn't have fucking shit.
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>>56848815
No it does not you stupid fucking faggot. Not all licenses create free software.
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>>56848826
X-org is a free software and it's MIT licensed, computer illiterate fuckwit
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>>56848721
Shut the fuck up pajeet
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>>56848826
You seem to have little to no understanding of what a "free software" license is. Any license that guarantees the "four freedoms" is a free software license. You are misinterpreting the term "free software" to mean only "copyleft" licenses, which is completely wrong. Copyleft licenses are free software licenses but they're not the only free software licenses.
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>>56848902
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Free_Software_Definition

Fuchsia is designed to be OSS, not FOSS.
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>>56848952
Everything I said was correct, end of discussion.
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>>56848952
It respects the four freedom, it's a free software by definition
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>>56848965
>>56848988

Just because OSS can be a subset of FOSS, doesn't mean Fuchsia is FOSS. Closed forks of Fuchsia can and will be made.

White boy freetards blown the fuck out.
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>>56848952
Both things you just linked defend what he said
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>>56849012
faggot
>>56849014
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>>56849012
You can also fork it and release it under a copyleft license.
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>>56849020
Google's branch isn't under GPL though. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>56849032
It's also not proprietary.
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>>56849035
It's also not FOSS, faggot.
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>>56849040
According to the FSF who created this arbitrary definition in first place, it actually is.
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>>56848347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28
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>>56849047
OP rekt again hehehe
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>Make a new OS
>time for the userland
>keep the godawful UNIX shell alive

Great.

Inb4 they add five different text filtering programs and the shell itself isn't functional
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>>56849094
>he likes powershell
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>>56849094
>godawful UNIX shell
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>>56849115
I don't.

I'd prefer es at the bare minimum. These imperative algol wannabes need to die, and the "do one thing, do it poorly, and do it several times in several different programs" thing should go with them.
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This does not seem ABI compatible with Linux. In the trash it goes.
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>>56849160
Linux won't exist in 10 years.
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>>56849160
>ABI
>ever using botnet shit you can't compile from source
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>>56849173
>He is still trying
lmao pajeet is pretty desperate after getting BTFO 35 times in his own thread kek
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Just so you know, OSes don't survive without software. If Google tries to close this thing up it wont last.
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>>56848347
Google hasn't done anything right in a decade, this will fail hard

Screencap this
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>>56849228
Screencapped.
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>Microkernels are a hot new meme again
Cool I'll let RMS know
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>>56849228
>Google hasn't done anything right in a decade
They gave me a free laptop, I can't really say that that was a wrong decision
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Guys please install fuchsia, otherwise sir sundar won't give me google reward points and my family has to starve.

Please do the needful within tomorrow or I will get fired
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>>56849265
Microkernels are probably a good idea for a fresh start at this point. They're small so they can theoretically be built up quickly and they're designed to be stable and can be very secure if they're designed explicitly for it. The speed concerns aren't necessarily as big as they once were and newer microkernels are designed to be fast.
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>>56849265
>mfw
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>>56848347
I hope they murder linux losers.

Should not be too hard to do.
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>>56849368
loll buttmand winbabby is angry hehehehe go back to >>>/v/ manchild
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>>56849284
Does it even work yet?
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>>56849389
Yes faggot. I posted a screenshot of it working. You can already run it on real hardware.
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>>56849473
can it run X and firefox
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>>56849498
Not yet goy.
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>>56848347
I thought you GNU(see what I did there?) you need Linux Kernel to compile this. This just blew your mind. #noonecares
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>>56849514
It's over, Fuchsia is finished!
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>>56849514
Fuchsia is FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

Blown the fuck out
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>>56849516
You can do it on a Mac too, faggot.
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>>56849540
Then defeats the whole freetard speech. Which is then in contradictory to the whole argument, stay focused you faggot. #nublets
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>>56848347
fuchsia is a botnet system developed by google

gg anon
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>>56849577
Tits or GTFO
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>>56848366
>>56848410
>>56848447
When you start using ad hominem attacks - you've lost the argument. And that's why you replied with another ad hominem attack to a constructive criticism in this post: >>56848436.
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What does this do better than Linux?
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>>56850152
>ad hominem
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>>56850644

Ad Hominem

(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
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>>56850671
And not a single of the posts >>56850152 replied to had such a thing
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>>56850644
>Freetards
>Stupid fucking faggot
Not ad hominem attacks. Ok.
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>>56850678
I don't know if you know this or not, but freetard and faggot are ad homs. Not that I care, because this is 4chan, where ad hom reigns.
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>>56850644
>>56850671
>>56850678
Who cares, he confirmed that he was just baiting. See: >>56849284
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>>56850695
OP has already made multiple threads, of course he's baiting.
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>>56850691
I didn't see faggot. I'll give you that, but freetard's just the term for freetards.
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>>56848347
I give it 4 years before google gives up on it
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>>56849012
>OSS can be a subset of FOSS
Google fanboys confirmed for brainlets.
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>>56848347
this kek OS is not made for desktop. it's made for IoT, stupid faggot.
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is it remotely easy to build? might be cool to spin up in a vm
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>>56848347
>Written in
>Various, including Dart and C
>Dart
>OS written in literally Javascript
goodnight
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>>56848347
>Daily reminder that GNU and Linux are finished.
>>56848354
>How many times are you going to post this?
>>56848366
>Until the freetards accept defeat.

Linux is not finished because companies like Cisco, Avaya, IBM and Oracle will still use Linux for most of their embedded appliances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TvSiYu8z2M

(Juniper and NetApp use embededd BSD which is why I didn't mention them).
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>>56848801
>Microsoft can make closed source forks of Fuchsia.
but that isn't good for microsoft
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what init system does it use?

Anything but systemd and i'll give it a shot.
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B-but how can Google be Fuchsia?
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