/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Are there any reasons to use Arch instead of eg. Ubuntu?

>>56824723

Yes, the same reasons which set distributions apart, as in: the things which define a distribution.

Daily reminder
$ help <insert command here>
only applies to shell builtin commands.
(compgen -b)

What's the best vnc for using my home arch desktop as virtualization server?
The wiki insta forwards to tigervnc

Is /media special?
I am trying to use a chmod on a shared folder in there (it was added there by virtualbox) but the chmod does nothing, no error no anything, but it has no effect, the permissions stay at 770 always

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>Just installed Kubuntu on my Macbook Pro to dual boot it
>Thought my EFI partition was busted because Kubuntu didn't show up in the Mac bootloader
>Turns out I just have to let it boot into Kubuntu normally and only enter the Mac bootloader if I want to use OSX

Guys, why do I have the feeling Linux isn't for me

But man is KDE comfy, why didn't I try this before

I have given up on trying to reinstall windows and wanna install GNU/linux now. If I put the iso on the usb and install it on the harddrive will everything be removed whats on it now or do I have to format it before I install gnu/linux?

>>56825011
You could try X11 forewarding

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How to auto mount my windows drive. I cannot write to it and I have to mount manually


fstab still didn't seem to help. when i wen to mount I no longer had permissions

Bit of a dumb question. Are some distros easier to rice/modify than others?

>>56825731
You can do where is leaves everything that's on there or you can wipe is all and install.

>>56825731
It will give you the option to do which you want.

>>56825949
>>56825961
Oh lovely, done with windows. 2 last downloads and I am one of you guys.

What is a good piece of software to view IP cams? Something that handles mjpeg through cgi.

I've tried using VLC, but the mjpeg output is through a cgi, and VLC doesn't like that... or I don't know the right flags..

I know I can use the web interface, but after awhile the stream stops buffering and I have to refresh it manually. help

how do I install a Linux distro to my spare HHD so I do not have to partition and can boot from just that drive?
thanks

>>56825868
are you not using sudo?
udisks/udevil/udev can be a secondary option

>>56825870
Yes and no. Some come with dependencies already bundled but you can always just install them. Maybe gentoo would be not really harder but take you longer because emerge can take forever sometimes.

>>56825731
You have the option to either dualboot or erase everything. You can also mount your hard disk after install / in the live USB.

>>56826022
select the spare as the install location.

>>56826042
Using Mint 17.3. Considering upgrading to 18 but also wondering if I should switch. Looking at Manjaro or Elementary. From what I gathered Elementary is even more newbish than Mint so I'm thinking Manjaro. On the other hand I might just upgrade to Mint 18 and try to rice it and learn from it.
Can you seriously break anything with just ricing?

>>56826060
So I am installing from a USB drive.
(Installing manjaro)

is there any tutorial out there? I could see any.

Also I never saw a select install drive or anything.

>>56824723
Noobuntu is so bloated

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>>56826122
did you get a screen like pic related?

Check their wiki. https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Installation_Guides
Maybe a Manjaro bro can help you/ I haven't played around with Manjaro for awhile.

>>56826268
lol that wasnt what i got.

>>56824688
Reminder: Everything except Gentoo is shit.

>>56826094
>Can you seriously break anything with just ricing?
Not normally. Maybe if you go crazy with startup scripts to make it look matrixy and something goes wrong.

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Hey, I'm sick of Debian Unstable breaking after doing simple updates every week, so I'm considering Fedora as my next distro.

Any critiques or things I should know about Fedora? Is it stable? Can you cleanly upgrade to future versions of Fedora without reinstalling? How is the package manager compared to others?

>>56826427
Fedora is worse.

>>56826427
> Is it stable?
Yes
> Can you cleanly upgrade to future versions of Fedora without reinstalling?
Yes
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade
>How is the package manager compared to others?
It's ok. They don't have non-free packages so you need to add repos if you need something they don't have.

Im in need of a little help fellas
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>>56826141

>>56826506
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

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>>56826506
Stop being a tripniggerfaggotcuntcuck
Listen to this guy: >>56826553

>>56826368
Cool, thanks for your time.

>>56826532
Persistence is the word you are looking for.

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>>56824688
I just got this wacom tablet I want to set ctrl-z and ctrl-y to the top buttons. How do I configure it?

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Fun fact gnubois, forkbombs are in again.
Any non-root user just has to type the following to crash vital features of any distro running systemd:

while true; do NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify ""; done

>>56824688
I'm having serious problems with a new laptop. It doesn't seem to want to accept a linux install at all. I've tried debian and antergos multiple times, am about to try manjaro. The USB's work fine (apart from some errors in antergos) but install never seems to finalise properly, as if the bootloaders don't take.

I tried an install of os x first and that worked out, strangely. It's a dell inspiron for what it's worth and have scrubbed the win 10 install from the disk.

Stupid question, but since android is linux, could you not install a terminal app, install a DE and all and run your phone like a desktop?

I could've sworn I saw someone install stuff through pacman on an android phone.

>>56827480
you could do termux or one of those apps to get debian, but not sure if you can do full fledged desktop apps.

wish ubuntu phone were better, would drop android in a second if it was good enough for daily driver status.

>>56827473
maybe it's the efi. does the bios have an option to disable efi?

>>56827547
ah like a legacy boot mode? that might make sense

>>56827265
Does

xbindkeys -mk

return anything when you press buttons?

What does "TTY" stand for?
For example, after entering the w command, part of what the header shows is the "tty name" for each user currently on the machine.

I've tried looking up the meaning but I still don't really understand.

>>56827601
yeah legacy mode.

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When did they bland down the gentoo handbook. Not that long ago it had more detailed steps.

First for Fedora being the best distro.

>>56827772
That is a first.

>>56826427
Don't run Sid. Problem solved.

>>56827744
It still had a whole section explaining network address last I checked.

>>56827772
t. nobody

>>56827744
Years ago when they removed stage1 and stage2 shit from it.

>>56827789
He fell for the use Sid meme.

Usually what the fags here tell new users to do, even though breaking is par for the course on it.

>>56827782
>>56827808
Find a flaw.

>>56824723
AUR

>>56827713
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TTY

learn how to use a search engine. it will make your life easier.

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>>56825868
alternatively ntfs-config

>>56826527
>They don't have non-free packages so you need to add repos if you need something they don't have
That's how I like my freedoms. Respected.

>>56827789
I want the latest and greatest packages/libraries, and backports isn't good enough.

>install debian stable
>packages are too old, some of them aren't even in the repositories because of "stability"
>install debian unstable
>some dependencies are broken because of the difference of some versions.

I guess debian is not for me.

>>56827860
- wants to be free, but ships nonfree drivers
- corpr is a ghost town
- special "serious business" snowflake communtity
- rhel testbed (isn't really a bad thing but afaik the only purpose fedora even exists)

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>>56827813

>>56827860
Starts with r ends with edhat

>>56828281
better than ubuntu

>>56828281
>wants to be free, but ships nonfree drivers
They have a pretty specific policy regarding nonfree binary firmware to ensure that it isn't invasive, malicious, or unethical.
See here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Binary_Firmware

>corpr is a ghost town
What is corpr? Is this a typo? I'm not kidding because a search for "fedora corpr" came up with nothing.

>special "serious business" snowflake communtity
Can you be more specific?

>rhel testbed (isn't really a bad thing but afaik the only purpose fedora even exists)
You yourself admit that this isn't an issue.

>>56828370
Why is that a flaw?

>>56828427
Idk

Canonical = Microsoft friends
Red Hat = NSA friends

>>56828281
> corpr is a ghost town

I always had good luck on the russianfedora repos.

>>56828440
pottering pls

>>56827860
systemd

>>56828483
Find a flaw.

>>56828125
Debian is shit unless you need to run a server, forget about it.

>>56828491
http://suckless.org/sucks/systemd

>>56828492
nice meme

>>56828523
Yes, debian is.

So I am installing my first gnulinux os on a pc besides a raspberry
I think I am making a mistake but I just went for it
Hope this isnt a mistake shit is ducking scary

>>56828511
All memes.

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>>56828442
>Canonical = Microsoft friends
>Red Hat = NSA friends
As long as they're all FOSS, I don't really give a shit who they cooperate with.

>>56828467
not an argument

>>56828535
Always make backups as often as possible! Then you can really fuck shit up and not worry.

>>56828534
>one of the oldest distro
>best reputation
>endlessly forked
>used in the ISS

>meme
Ayy.

Can someone please give me a simple definition of what X is? I've been reading a bit to try and understand and it seems to be a program that creates the GUI and manages windows, but I don't understand the differentiation between X and a wm, since they both seem to 'handle windows' and the GUI.

>>56828580
As I said, it is good for servers.

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>>56828511
thanks senpai, almost forgot

>>56828440
>wants to be free, but ships nonfree drivers
>They have a pretty specific policy regarding nonfree binary firmware to ensure that it isn't invasive, malicious, or unethical.

You're not being the person Mr Stallman knows you can be

>>56828575
>FOSS
please use the all-inclusive FLOSS next time, thank you.

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>>56828676
my nigga

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>>56828638
"Anybody who tells me I can't use a program because it's not open source, go suck on rms. I'm not interested. 99% of that I run tends to be open source, but that's my choice, dammit. "

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>>56827858
>>56828523
>>56828544
>>56828580
everything is a meme around here
"foo is a meme" is a meme

>>56828587
>Can someone please give me a simple definition of what X is?
X is the underlying framework that allows fancy graphics to be drawn to the screen at all. It operates at a lower level than window managers and DEs. Everything graphical utilizes and runs on top of X.

This part of the wikipedia article explains the overall design pretty well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Software_architecture

It's kinda complicated and you don't need to know all the details to use it, because it's mostly in the background.

>>56828802
rms doesn't allow or disallow which programs to use, he's teaching people why proprietary programs are bad

- don't smoke; it's bad for you
- don't use proprietary software; it's bad for you

got it, linus?

>>56828869
preaching =/= teaching

What's currently the best terminal?
> inb4 the one I'm using
I'm using urxvt, but it lacks of some vt100 features and it needs patches to be usable.

>>56828638
>You're not being the person Mr Stallman knows you can be
If you can find evidence of Fedora's nonfree firmware actually doing anything unethical, then please bring it to my attention, and I'll probably stop using it. Otherwise I'll continue to use that firmware because it's necessary for my current computer to work at all.

>>56828676
>please use the all-inclusive FLOSS next time, thank you.
No. The only reason to say "free/libre software" is because "free software" can be easily interpreted as "free to purchase software." There's no ambiguity when someone reads "free/open source software."

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>>56828997
Terminator or Qterminal

Will office actuators work on linux? Wanna use office 2010 mainly because of excel

>>56829020
What a retard.

>>56828676
>>56829020
also because floss is already a word

>>56829048
Why not run it in a VM?

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is there a way for me to install all of these at once?
i mean i guess i don't even know how to install them one at a time either

>>56829020
FOSS only implies code that you can look at and don't need to pay for it - completly missing the point when someone want's to refer to free as in freedom software.

>luckily this program is FOSS
>I can change the source and share it
no, FOSS doesn't imply that

>>56829081
Never though about, but it'd be more recourse intensive, and my computer is slow

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>>56829048
Virtualbox

>>56829125
>recourse intensive
doggy dog world

>>56828125
What do you even need that's "too old"? I use backports for Firefox and that's it. Everything else being a bit outdated has not been an issue even once.

Why is Debian so based?

> comfy installer
> comfy kernel without any botnet blobs
> hardware needs a bonet module? one-click enable it
> packages are splitted, making them lightweight
> if you want, you can choose only free software
> want to go bleeding edge? just change a line in a txt file
> use apt-showbugs to see changes before you upgrade
> want to change something in debian? vote

meanwhile on arch:
- no installer
- kernel comes with all modules enabled
- packages aren't splitted, all source, docs, headers are included
- no option to choose only free software
- #yolo upgrading
- less votings, more cuckoldings

>>56829268
enjoy your sjw distro

>>56829268
>No installer

Debian wishes it was as comfy as Arch anywhere

>>56829295
What sort of things would that even effect?
>man command is too cis, lets change it

>>56829268
hope you're enjoying systemdick, fuccboi

>>56824688
should i get elementary or mac osx when i get my usb

>>56829268
You do realise text based installers are far more flexible, right?

Retarded newfag

>>56829295
>http://archwomen.org/
We all have such community members. That's a GNU/Linux problem, not a Debian problem.

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>>56829343
>man command is too cis, lets change it
Yeah

>>56829399
BTFO, debqueen

>>56829268
>I'm too retarded to set my kernel modules
Typical debibabby

>>56829412
>Noobuntu is so bloated

>>56829295
>>56829399
it's what you get when you go FLOSS.

Move past it, code is what matters not the social shit.

>>56829446
You replied to the wrong post, retard

>>56829136
>>56829081
I'll go with 2007, because it only needs the key

What's a decent portable distro that is compatible with WINE? I was probably going to go with one of the Puppy variations but I couldn't tell if WINE worked with it.

>>56829640
Slax

>>56829459
Code doesn't matter when it does bad things.
Proof: Every normalfag that uses anti malware programs.

>>56829640
>compatable with wine
Wine is a program that runs on any version of linux you want

>>56828101
source pls

>>56829759
So I can run Wine on Android?

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>>56829759
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>56829789
thank dr stalman

>>56829783
Theoretically, yes

>>56829783
Android Linux is a derivative of linux. Google didnt want to play house and give code back, so linus BTFO android from mainline.

Android Linux is a level below Linux
Linux being the parent.
Android linux is a child of Linux. Android Linux is not considered Linux

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>>56829789
>>56829789
Linux
GNU/Linux
Android/Linux
Chrome OS/Linux
Windows 10/Ubuntu/GNU/Linux
GNU/systemd/X/WM/DE/Applications/Linux

>>56829900
you forgot Linux/linux

Thank you for adding the pepper

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>>56829925
shit

When downloading images, is there a way to change it so that I can see the images I already have saved as a thumbnail ?

>>56828575
>>56825949
>>56825961
>>56826057
Got it running and it works amazing
Antergos minimal is amazing

Redpill me on SELinux. The troubleshooter seems nice.

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I have a question.

Lately I've been trying to move from Plasma to some Tilling WM, but I've been facing a serious problem.

My problem is that every single WM refuses to use the system's applications in their Qt toolking. What I means is that, for example, I'm forced to use Dolphin in GTK and the GTK file picker instead of Dolphin's Qt one.

Is it possible to fix that problem? I honestly use KDE mainly because I love their software and it feels wrong that something agnostic such as a WM is giving me these issues.

>>56830430
The NSA owns it
>security
>using goverment software for "security"
Not even once

>>56830691
>The NSA owns it
Wrong and dropped

>>56830883
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux

NSA Security-enhanced Linux is a set of patches to the Linux kernel and some utilities to incorporate a strong, flexible mandatory access control (MAC) architecture into the major subsystems of the kernel. It provides an enhanced mechanism to enforce the separation of information based on confidentiality and integrity requirements, which allows threats of tampering and bypassing of application security mechanisms to be addressed and enables the confinement of damage that can be caused by malicious or flawed applications. It includes a set of sample security policy configuration files designed to meet common, general-purpose security goals.

>>56830691
>he doesn't know SELinux is licensed under the GPL

>>56830883
>>56830904
>The United States National Security Agency (NSA), the original primary developer of SELinux, released the first version to the open source development community under the GNU GPL on December 22, 2000.[5]
https://www.nsa.gov/news-features/press-room/press-releases/2001/se-linux.shtml

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Snagged this neato netbook from work. What distro should I throw on it?

>>56830938
slackware or puppy

>>56830987
Does Slackware have any advantages over Debian? Never used it before

What the fuck is wrong with the plasmazilla ppa? I'm still waiting for the lasted firefox version.

>>56830938
Tyrone...

>>56831275
Ayo,I din du nuffin. The customer just wanted her data off of it. I didn't charge her the recycling fee.

*
>>56830923
>>56830899
Who cares. It's open sourced so no back door.

>>56831408
>It's open sourced so no back door.
I wouldn't trust that something made by NSA has no backdoor.

>>56831408
>It's open sourced so no back door.
You are a fool.

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>>56831408

>>56831432
^This

>>56831342
>The customer just wanted her data off of it.
Anything good?

>>56831450
Why do you think I'm a moron?
NSA had many backdoors exposed recently on Cisco and other routing equipments. If it made an OS, it will be out of my computer, certainly.

>>56831484
Do you honestly think a small line of code wouldn't be easily forced by a NSL gag on a version push?
I wish i was this naive again

Alright friends, I want to use xmonad at work but my laptop is an mbp. Do I dualboot or use something like virtualbox to setup a dev environment in linux?

No, xquartz doesn't count because its not a complete solution for all my window management needs. I'm also not super interested in the windowing solutions available on OSX, mainly because I also want to get back to ricing loonix desteps.

>>56831512
There's some difference between a line of code, and an entire OS.

>>56831453
Nah. The only time I ever see anything interesting are on macbooks, since they sync with phone pictures.

>>56831542
selinux is not an os...

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Why does Linux not have good tablet support in 2016?

>>56831756
Because tablet is something stupid.

>>56831779
It's good for reading

>>56831836
My netbook is good for reading. Why do you need a touch screen to read?

>>56831909
Because it's comfortable to read in portrait mode and to scroll or turn pages with your finger.

>>56831979
I don't get why turning pages/scrolling with fingers needs a whole touchscreen. Couldn't you do this with a touchpad? Or better, with arrow keys?

>>56832007
The keyboard and touchscreen are on the back in tablet mode. Sure you could just turn a normal laptop 90° but that's just uncomfortable.

What's the best lightweight distro for daily use?

>>56832050
Debian

>>56832050
mine ;^)

>>56832064
kek

>>56832050
arch

>>56832083
he said lightweight

>>56832050

Install Gentoo

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>>56824688
Hey faggots, why does the Lubuntu desktop environment work for me on my fresh Xenial install, but not the Ubuntu desktop environment? It won't even load. Just blackness. Posting from Lubuntu desktop.

>>56832215
Do you expect us to be psychic?

>>56832241
Yes. I'm using a proprietary NVIDIA driver. The desktop would load before the driver, but it looked like shit.

>>56832094
>every distro's "minimum install" is around 250-300mb

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So now that I have arch installed what do I do...

>>56824688
I downloaded ubunutu 16.04 and it has been easy so far. I know it is a baby distro but I couldnt have done it without you /g/. I am thinking about switching to arch after a month or so.

is kali actually a meme?

>>56825868
Any ideas? Having to maually mount is not a big deal. But back in my day I always fioxed this easily. I canont change the name or write.

>>56832434
realize it isn't that great and go back to your previous distro
>>56832514
it isn't a meme if you're into the hacking scene

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>>56832434
You have one package more than I anon

>>56832656
>>56832434
>falling for the arch meme
kids everywhere

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>>56832656
>You have one package more than I
>647
>>56832434
>646


uhh?

>>56832656
you have 214 more packages than me

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>>56832696
arch works perfect for me. no lie. no bugs and AUR

not trying to be cool here

>>56832716
Yeah I got it backwordsI beter remove something uminpoortant to be you

>>56832743
nice start icon, i just stole it if thats okay.

>>56832743
>facebook

>>56832800
yeah man I use FB. I have friends. I met my fiance on it and have been laid and just keep in contact with friends. sorry. it works for me.

>>56832844
Enjoy your botnet.

>>56832844
cuck

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>>56832791
there you go.

I used to have better ones but I just started being back on linux recently.

Anyways. Goodnight friendly linux folk. time to dream and i have my dreams or fun or at least fucked up

>>56832860
Yeah I will. I already have gmails etc so nothing to be done but they work

>>56832264
Answer my fucking question or I will delete this website. All I have to do is eat one more hot pocket to become the mythical 400 lb hacker of doom.

What does this neckbeard >>56832696 use?

>>56832944
whatever fucking distro he wants because he practices independent thought and can choose what he likes without an imageboard telling him what is or isn't cool

>>56832963
>he practices independent thought
Doesn't look like it

>>56824688
How do I install linux-firmware-nonfree manually? It's non in Xenial's sources list.

>>56833510
Why would you want to?

>>56833565
Because my wifi requires a proprietary driver.

>>56833574
Shouldn't Ubuntu include all drivers by default anyway?

>>56833591
No you faggot, you're thinking of Mint. I bet you've never even installed Fugbuntu.

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>Uninstall qbittorrent
>lol dude you don't probably need wl (wireless driver), Linux image, Linux headers and virtualbox module


Holy shit I should've listened, /g/.
APT is trash

>>56834161
Headers are optional, as is image-extra. If they were installed as / are only dependencies of qb, and you run AUTOREMOVE ofc they're going to be uninstalled.

>>56834197
>Autoremove removes wifi driver and vboxdrv
What?

>>56834161

You're an idiot and it's most likely not worth explaining to you why.
Hint: it only keeps the last few kernels. When you update and install a new kernel, the oldest one is flagged for autoremoval. Regarding your wirless driver, look at the package's info and see for yourself if anything you installed depends on it.
By the way: kill yourself for adopting other people's stances before verifying them yourself.

>>56834222
Qbittorrent and wireless driver has no correlation faggot

>>56834231

Did you run autoremove after every package installation/removal? How do you know it was flagged for autoremoval after uninstalling qbittorrent? Even if it was, it means it's not needed any more, because it obviously worked before you installed it alongside qbittorrent.
You're just proving more and more how stupid you are. Stop, for your own sake and inform yourself before spreading such nonsense. Fortunately enough for you this isn't real life, because it would be really embarrassing.

>>56834278
>shut it down goyim
No


And yes, I do run auto-remove after every installation. I need my bcmwl driver, there has been no new release of the driver but apt removed it. You are just proving how much in denial debfaggots can be. Retard

>>56834308
>installation
*uninstallation

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So faggots, how do I fix Unity? Lubuntu works fine.

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>>56834321
Time for an upgrade, poorfag

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should I use suspend or hibernate? desktop

>>56834334
It's an old POS computer. I have a decent laptop that runs Windows 10.

>>56834435
>Should I travel by helicopter or by plane? human

You should probably use your favorite search engine to figure out the differences between them and pick one you want at a particular moment.

>>56834484

you're not being friendly

>>56834308

I'm not even using Debian/Ubuntu. I'm just pointing out how you don't know anything about package management and package managers.
Why are you still being an idiot on here instead of looking at your package manager's output to see which package had your WLAN device's driver as a dependency and if you even installed your driver package explicitly to prevent its autoremoval as a dependency? Do you expect your lack of knowledge to resolve itself by being a retarded person online instead of reading about your "problem"?

>>56834491

You're not being smart.

>>56834517

>*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

>>56834491
I could have called you names, but instead I suggested the only reasonable solution: type "suspend or hibernate" into Google and do some reading.
You know, teach a man to fish and all that.

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>>56834538

but I'm not asking the difference between them
I'm asking you, as a friend, which one do you normally use
because, you know, this is the friendly gnu/linux thread

you're not teaching anyone with "just google it xddd", you're just shitposting

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>>56834611
>I'm asking you, as a friend, which one do you normally use
That's not what you asked. You asked which one _should_ you use.

As a """friend""", I'll answer both of your questions.
>which one should you use
Whichever suites your current situation. Can't pick one? Then you haven't googled it to know the differences between them and realized that they're used for different purposes.
>which one do I normally use
Hibernation on the desktop (I'm dualbooting, and hibernation cuts down on boot up time of each OS) and suspend on the laptop.

>you're just shitposting
I think you're the one shitposting, friendo. But I'm replying, so I'm the part of the problem.

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What usb/pci wifi work with Debian?
I see they list the chipsets, but a lot of the products I'm looking at on Amazon don't state what chipsets they use, even on the manufacturers website.
I just want to have fun, comfy, stable experiences on my computer.

>>56834670
Probably all of them work. Their stability can vary, of course. So either read reviews or try to find ones which have been explicitly tested and confirmed to work well on Linux.

>>56834709
Last time I tried Debian live, it didn't work with my usb wifi that does work with Lubuntu.
Ralink RT5372, which isn't listed https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi.

I have another question, though. I tried making another live usb of Debian, but when I boot UEFI usb, it just boots my normal OS.
Then when I boot just from usb, it says missing file system. I've heard this error can happen when the usb isn't formatted correctly, but I keep using the GUI in lubuntu to format it as FAT, then burn the iso with unetbootin. Not really sure what else to do.

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I missed up when partitioning my HDD.
It's like this

NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda      8:0    0 465.8G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0   255M  0 part /boot
├─sda2   8:2    0  29.3G  0 part /
├─sda3   8:3    0 432.5G  0 part /home
├─sda4   8:4    0     1K  0 part 
└─sda5   8:5    0   3.8G  0 part [SWAP]
sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom  

Now I want to migrate to bigger HDD, how do I do this and add the extra free space to /HOME ?

>>56835040
>Ralink RT5372, which isn't listed https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi.

pro tip for debian, out of the box it uses linux-libre not the standard linux kernel so you *only* get free (foss) firmware/drivers unless you opt-in to the non stuff

*most* other distros, like lubuntu, use the regular linux kernel which uses regular drivers and firmware which can contain non-free proprietary blobs

that out of the way, 3rd result on google for "Ralink RT5372" is the following:

https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb

tl;dr enable non-free repos (provided your device ids are listed, lsusb or lspci or something to find the id of the device)

regarding your second question, you might need the usb formatted with a gbt partition table not mbr table before uefi booting works (and unetbootin might stil lbe using mbr) -- instead of trying to format the disk and sort partitions out manually why not try just writing the debian to the usb directly, do something like the following:

dd if=<file> of=<device> bs=4M; sync

from : https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb

this won't be the solution you need to do if you want persistent storage or anything like that but it should work as is

>>56827405
>while true; do NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify ""; done

Failed to notify init system: Connection refused

>>56835173
>How try running any service file or just doing "systemctl".
Huh. Neat.

>>56835155

Now try running any service file or just doing "systemctl".
Either way, I don't get the hype and anger. Whenever a bug gets discovered with another software, no one cars. When someone discovers a systemd bug, all hell breaks loose.

People who want to feel smart and knowledgable are going to repeat these things now forever, so they can feel like they have a deep understanding of the topic.

>>56835088
I don't get it, the partitioning looks fine.

Now you want to increase your original home with space from the other HDD?

>>56835088
>Now I want to migrate to bigger HDD, how do I do this and add the extra free space to /HOME ?

you have a few choices, the simplest solution is probably to clone the drive to your new disk with dd or something (and keep the original as a backup for christs sake), you can then delete /home, the 1k partition (assuming it's nothing important and it's just unallocated), delete swap, then you're free to recreate swap and /home in whatever order you like and you can rsync /home from your backup to your new drive

however if you want to keep the partitions as it is (and your new drive is at least 432.5G bigger than your current drive) you can clone the old drive to the new drive, you can move /home up into the unallocated space, rearrange the 1k partition and swap to be next to /, move /home back down, and then expand /home to fill the rest of the space on the disk, the convoluted way of doing this would be through fdisk/dd however I'm sure there's a few gui tools that can do it provided your filesystem setup is simple enough (gparted comes to mind)

I'd advise looking up how to move partitions in linux before you do it as obviously there is a *huge* margin of error involved but if you're happy keeping your old disk until you have it setup you should have a backup at all times

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I mean I'm glad to get rid of ubanto, but how do people tolerate these fonts?

>>56835343

1. You're an idiot who most likely left Ubuntu for no valid, distribution specific, reason.
2. You're a try-hard, pretentious idiot who asserts his "superiority" and "knowledge" by saying cringe-worthy things like "ubanto".
3. You're an idiot who doesn't know how to copy/paste 1 simple fontconfig file to get reasonably good looking fonts.

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>>56835343
>installed shitty DE
>complains about shitty fonts

>>56835203
The /HOME isn't in the last.
Meaning I can't just enlarge it when moving to bigger HDD.
I want to migrate to newer HDD.
But increasing space of /home from another HDD is interesting.
Add the new hdd UUID in the fstab and mount it as home and copy the data over?
>>56835216
It seems Gparted have something similar.
http://gparted.org/display-doc.php%3Fname%3Dmoving-space-between-partitions
I'll try it out, worse case I'll delete the SWAP and expand the /home directory.
Thanks anyway.

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My current laptop is busted, somehow managed to burn the CPU.
How to migrate to new laptop?
I doubt simply swapping the HDD will do.

>>56835377

>desktop environments are responsible for font rendering

That's one of the most idiotic things I have read on here. Why would you even post something as stupid as that?

>tfw there's no such thing as Linux distros anymore, only different skins on top of systemd

>>56835400
>I doubt simply swapping the HDD will do
It should. Unless you're running Gentoo or something.

>>56835409

>i don't know what a distribution's key defining features are
>i read somewhere that hating on systemd makes you edgy and "smart", so i'll say something idiotic and incorporate systemd into it, that will make me look super smart and l33t

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>>56835400
>pressed enter accidentally
Or will it do?
Since linux uses open drivers, or does installing the OS remove somethings?

>>56835343
By not having autism.

>>56835382
>Meaning I can't just enlarge it when moving to bigger HDD.
Just repartition the new HDD like you want to, move all the data manually, change all the UUIDs, don't forget the boot flag.

If you want to resize partitions as much as you want (across disks even), then you should look into LVM. It's really powerful, and right now is exactly the time when you should do it -- when you have an empty fresh HDD.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LVM

>>56835400
It actually might.

>>56835415
>Unless you're running Gentoo or something
Why? does compiling the kernel include the needed drivers only?

>>56835425
Holy irony.
>>56835377
>>56835354

>>56835434
Depends on how the kernel is configured. You can configure it to include all available drivers but then compiling it yourself would be pretty pointless.

>>56835434
It all depends on your kernel config and how much stuff you have disabled.

>>56835423
>i don't know what a distribution's key defining features are
Better hold tight to your package manager son. Systemd's lead dev expressively has the goal of eliminating a lot of "unnecessary" choice on Linux to make the ecosystem more like Windows.

>>56835426
>>56835415
That's why I love linux.
Doing this with windows will probably give you BSoD.

>>56835444
Pretty sure Docker is owned by other people, but even then you don't seem to be quite sure what differentiates distributions of the same operating system.

>>56835464
>Pretty sure Docker is owned by other people
Systemd is/will be pushing Flatpak as a replacement and make it deliberately harder for Docker devs to do their work.

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What do you use to find duplicate files?

>>56835511

>Systemd is/will be pushing Flatpak
[citation needed]
Flatpak has nothing to do with systemd.

>>56835444

>make it more like Windows
[citation needed]
Whom am I kidding, you can't cite it, because no one mentioned Windows. You idiots automatically say "... like Windows" for everything that you don't (or what you've been told not to) like.
There is an article where the systemd developer talks about an alternate way for packaging programs, but that has nothing to do with systemd's scope. Just because he's working on 1 project, doesn't mean he or anyone else isn't allowed to talk about or contribute to other unrelated projects.

>>56835563

Why would you have duplicate files?

>>56835575
4chan reposts.

>>56835563
Awesome Photo Finder. It's not very automatable, but it works and is free and doesn't have a terrible UI and horrid translation.

>>56835563

Duplicate Cleaner Pro on Windows 7

I'm thinking of buying into the SSD meme.

I have two 1TB HDD's that I store my files on. One is general storage and a Windows 7 install, the other is /home.

Since all my configs are stored in /home (on a traditional HDD), would an SSD make a noticeable difference if root and/or / was installed on it?

This probably belongs in stupid questions general but I figured it's Linux related.

>>56835597
>>56835607
That's for windows.
If I wanted one for windows I'd ask >>>/g/sqt

>>56835616
You can always run it with WINE if you can't find something. There does seem to be stuff, at least for Ubuntu. https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/findimagedupes/

So I'm about to buy a new netbook (ASUS EeeBook X206HA - note the tiny 32GB SSD).
It will be used almost exclusively for vim, viewing pdf files and ocassional browsing. There might be photos, videos and music consumed here and there, but it's not the focus at all.

On my old netbook, I used Arch which I was very happy with, but the rolling release character didn't really fit with the update rhythm I wanted to use.

So now I'm wondering if there's an alternative to arch with a more regular release model (maybe annual or biannual).

Of course I don't HAVE to update, and I really liked pacman/yaourt, the AUR, and the simple, minimal base install.

tl;dr:
Looking for distro with
>simple (=/=easy; I don't need a GUI or anything) minimal install
>fixed release
>ideally something like the AUR

Basically, Arch with fixed releases

My first guess was that I try a minimal debian install and go from there. Any alternatives?

>>56835569
>systemd's scope
Read anything at all from Poettering and it's made clear that systemd's scope is intended to be ever-expanding.

NixOS or GuixSD

I use crunchbang++ instead of Debian beacuse it comes ootb really close to what I want it to be and I dont want to spend endless hours of ricing.
Is that bad?

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>>56827405
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/531ac2b2349da02acc9c382849758e07eb92b020

What LaTeX editor to use? Running Debian.

>>56832963
>without an imageboard telling him what is or isn't cool
Then please, oh great neckbeard, tell us what distro is better if you want to have rolling release

>>56835902
just pick one and learn it well, they all seem about the same in the end export

Emacs if you want power and are insane

LYX if you want the beginner GUI

something else, sure there are lots more out there those are just the ones I messed with once or twice

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Gonna post it again:

I always thought that Window Managers where toolkit agnostic, but lately I've been trying to move from Plasma to i3 and Awesome, but I've been facing a serious problem.

My problem is that every single WM refuses to use the system's applications in their Qt toolking. What I means is that, for example, I'm forced to use Dolphin in GTK and the GTK file picker instead of Dolphin's Qt one.

Is there a reason for that to be happening? I honestly find pointless going to a Tilling WM since I actually use KDE because I prefer Qt.

How do I turn my existing windows 7 install into a VM?

It has like six years' use worth of service tweaks, registry edits, optimisations, and a hand picked list of updates.

I wouldn't be able to retrace my steps even if I tried.

>>56835902
texstudio

>>56834507
Holy shit the amount of autism speak is real.

> I'm just pointing out how you don't know anything about package management and package managers.
Okay.. Still know more than you, newfag

>f looking at your package manager's output to see which package had your WLAN device's driver as a dependency and if you even installed your driver package explicitly to prevent its autoremoval as a dependency?
I'm not going to use a piece of shit package manager any more

>Do you expect your lack of knowledge to resolve itself by being a retarded person online instead of reading about your "problem"?
Yes, any package manager/repo structure that thinks qBittorrent and WLAN driver are remotely correlated is garbage

Is there a retard proof guide on how to set up a system wide parametric EQ on Linux?

On win7 you just install Equalizer APO and that's it.
I couldn't find a solution for Linux that didn't involve concepts way beyond my knowledge, like replacing the entire audio interface of the distro and then somehow plugging a VST into that.

>>56836332
So much confusion in this post.
>I'm forced to use Dolphin in GTK
This makes no sense, dophin is built with qt.
>and the GTK file picker instead of Dolphin's Qt one.
The file picker has nothing to do with dolphin. Your browser will use the gtk file picker unless it is designed or patched to do otherwise. This is nothing to do with dolphin or qt (at least in the sense you're thinking about it).
>I honestly find pointless going to a Tilling WM since I actually use KDE because I prefer Qt.
Use KDE, it's a pretty simple solution.

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>>56836549
You could use jack.

>>56835616
How about you use cli? or do you need a GUI?

>>56836549
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pulseaudio-equalizer&t=canonical&ia=web

>>56836624

I actually did confuse myself. What really does happens is that everything goes into fallback mode and applications starts to favor GTK instead of Qt.

For example, Chromium will favor the usual GTK file picker without the thumbnais. While in KDE it would use KDialog.

My first reaction was to use "QT_QPA_PLATFORM=kde" to start my applications, but it doesn't work system wide and, for example, the issue with KDialog remains even though I have my Chromium, or Dolphin set to use the kde settings themselves.

So the real question now is how to apply it system wide? I never used any WM, so I have no idea how to mess with its configuration files and I couldn't find anything on the internet.

>>56836727
Why do people always ignore the "parametric" part?
Kind of important.
Regular equalizers are useless.

>>56836801
Did you actually read what I just posted?

>>56836825
Install jack, then you will be able use anything you want.

>>56836828

Yes, did you read mine? I just agreed with you and said that everything goes into fallback mode, which by default favors GTK alternatives, just like with the browser example.

>>56836897
>Chromium, or Dolphin set to use the kde settings themselves.
Forget dolphin, it has nothing to do with chromium, it is not the file picker.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Environment_variables#Examples
Try that.

I can't bring myself to delete my Windows partition on my laptop. I haven't used it since July but I just can't do it.

It's not that I like Windows, it's that I'm a hoarder and can't get rid of things that cost money.

>>56837070
I had that same mentality. Just think of it like this, your not throwing the money away. You still have a windows copy just not installed. Like owning a steam game but not having it installed yet.

>>56837070
Sell your license then.

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>>56836974

I did try that, but didn't help. What did help was set the ~/.xprofile and add:

"export XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP = kde
export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME= kde"

Now, the applications at least look like what I used before, but the problem with the file picker still remains.

By the way, I'm only using the file picker as an example, there still problem with other software. This is what it looks like now.

>>56837070
Same but for desktop.

I've had my Windows 7 install which I haven't booted into since May of 15' sitting on my secondary hdd (now storage). I don't need the space yet so I might as well leave it.

>>56837070
I was like that a 2 years ago, i didnt wanted to delete windows and steam.
Once i decided i gifted all my items to friend and wiped hdd, installed fresh os. Since that day i havent use Windows or played any game.

>>56837138
Please list the other problems aside form the file picker.
Also, what have there isn't what was in that wiki

~/.xinitrc

export DE="xfce"
exec openbox

I am somewhat confused by the point of mounting.
Let's say my cdrom is at
/dev/cdrom
and to use i mount as per tutorials:
mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
But why? What is the point of mounting it to the /media/cdrom when i can use it directly in the /dev/cdrom?

>>56837203

>I did try that, but didn't help.

I wrote that it didn't help.

>>56837255
You still haven't posted what your problems are.

>>56837275

>what is reading comprehension

I give up.

>>56837303
You have to post your problems in order for anyone to read them. Suit yourself though.

Why is KDE called KDE if the actual VM itself is Plasma?

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X server crashes when I run startx, what do I do now? I know ... "le nvidia" but I'm poor and my richfag buddy gave his "old" PC to me when he bought his new gaming setup. So how do I fix this error? Its slackware btw...

>>56837350
WM*, fug :---DDD

>>56837070
I did it last week and feel great now.

>>56837350
Because it is more than a window manager.
It's not called KDE anyway.

>>56837363
>Its slackware btw...
Found your problem.
Looks like you don't have the drivers installed, or the kernel modules aren't being loaded.

>>56837363
In all likelihood you are missing drivers for the graphics card.

>>56837396
driver, firmware and kernel module should be installed (I used sbopkg to download and install them)

>>56837437
The error would suggest otherwise.
Honestly, if you can't solve this then you should probably not be using slackware.

>>56836519

>Yes, any package manager/repo structure that thinks qBittorrent and WLAN driver are remotely correlated is garbage
Did you prove that qbittorrent and the driver were related dependency wise? You didn't.
All you did was mention autism and some subjective claims how the package manager is bad. Nothing to disprove the point (that it's PEBCAK).

>>56837437
>should be

It doesn't look like they are from those errors it's throwing back. If you're running slack you should know this, anon.

>>56837449
Well I used slackware before but I never had any problems with configuring X and it's the first time I install a linux based distro on a pc with a nvidia graphics card.

>>56835563
fdupes for hash checking
findimagedupes for pixel checking

>>56837070
flip a coin, then it isn't your choice

Why are linux directories case sensitive?

>>56837532
Why wouldn't they be?

>>56837138
>>56836332
>>56836801

Window managers are toolkit agnostic.
When did Chromium use KDialog? I just looked and Chromium requires GTK2 on my distribution, which means it's using GTK2 for its GUI. That means it will use the GTK2 file picker. You can't just make it use a different file picker by changing an environment variable (it doesn't depend on Qt or any KDE libraries on my distribution). You most likely used a patched version of Chromium.
I don't know how you got Dolphin to use GTK's file dialog. Neither did you mention which distribution you're using and which Chromium and Dolphin packages (official packages from repositories or something outside of it with possible patches applies).

>>56837532
ASCII. So the corresponding code for A is different from a for example.

>>56837363
>>56837437
>>56837501
Remove references to nvidia and restart X. Clearly something went wrong with your driver install.

>>56837532

Isn't that determined by the filesystem and not the kernel?

http://serverfault.com/questions/125347/linux-case-insensitive-filesystem

everytime I open a new terminal I'm not in the sudoers file anymore. when I su and re-add myself it says that I'm already in the group. I'm running on debian. does anyone know why that happens and how I can fix it?

Made a new one: >>56837606

>>56837605
as root open /etc/sudoers manually with a text editor like leafpad. add your username then save it when youre done

>>56837654
Do not do this, there is a reason visudo exists.

>>56837654
thanks babe

just reinstalled slack and it somehow works now, dunno what I fucked up lol....

>>56837237
Thanks for nothing
friendly my ass

>>56838167
kys cuntface

>>56838167
this is the old thread, silly
>>56837606

>>56837237
/dev/cdrom is just a device node, a single file which is exposed by the device driver

mounting a filesystem (such as from a device/partition) means making its contents available via the VFS

ps. this is not unique to linux, on windows for example, "c:\" is a mountpoint (not a device!, the first disks' device name is actually \\.\PhysicalDrive0, but this is hidden away)

>>56832743
> chrome
> facebook
> weezer

Gpt vs mbr

>>56839243
I recommend using gpt

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I need a video editor for Linux with only one requirement: ability to render video in a custom framerate: I need 48 FPS, but Kdenlive, Pitivi, and Openshot all don't have that option.

Is there anything other than Blender that can do this?