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Copypasta:
https://p.teknik.io/5cGhy
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>>56618176
/httplists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-June/033170.html
/httparticle.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/17392
/httplists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
/httpscgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=5a8bcb674f71a20e95df55319b34c556638378ce
/httpsgithub.com/systemd/systemd/commit/29272c04a73b00b5420ee686d73c3bc74d29d169?utm_source=anzwix
/httpsgithub.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402
/httpslists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XW7V5A3RAWYCACU2ZMPA27ARRLIZUI37/
/httpsbugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170765
/httpsbugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=784720
/httpslists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028514.html
/httpsgithub.com/systemd/systemd/issues/825#issuecomment-127917622
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So my computer won't recognize two screens at the same time. The other one just won't show up at xrandr, instead it just says that it's disconnected. If I disconnect the one that works at boot, the other one will work instead, but not both at the same time. I've tried upgrading my drivers and messing around with Xorg.conf, but neither seems to help at all. Sometimes if I reboot a few times and mess around with the cables I get it to work. Is this just a GPU problem?
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>>56620134
What card?
What cables?
Try without an xorg.conf and/or use use an vidia config at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-monitor.conf
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Anyone else had issues with Firefox slowing to a crawl and getting typing lag on a regular basis?

It seems to be related to the firefox plugin-container process. AKA not-flash, but the thing that's happening instead of flash. When I open a bunch of youtube videos to add to my watch later and then close them, it seems my memory usage goes up and never comes back down. Same with CPU usage. You'd think since it was using my resources so liberally, it WOULDN'T slow down, but it does. Weird.

I do have a lot of tabs, but they're separated into tab groups and I never have them all loaded at once. I shouldn't have to restart firefox to get it to run normally, and doing so takes way too long also.
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>>56620213
GTX 970, the ports that I'm trying to connect to are DVI-I-0 and DVI-D-0, and the DVI-I-0 one (the one that works) is using a VGA cable with a DVI-I adapter.
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>>56620252
linuxatemyram.com
>caching
>loaded at once
They are still being cached

Please educate your self in basic computing knowledge
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Are there guides to improve LIVE audio quality on GNU/Linux? All my results on youtube or duckduckgo are for recorded audio being fixed in audacity. My mic sounds worse than literally any live recording I can find of other people using it. However, these people all likely use Windows. Adding 'linux' to my search terms doesn't get me a single relevant result. All the reviews for it are really positive but I have lots of background static. Not sure what to do. It seems to be a software issue. I think it's related to ALSA/Pulse. (Happens in both, although I'm not sure if I can even use Pulse without ALSA)

My friend who has the same mic on GNU/Linux also has some issues, and I'm technically on my second version of the mic as I broke the first one by tripping on it and pulling on the cable really hard, so I got a replacement. I think this rules out it being faulty hardware.
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>>56620277
I am aware of what you're trying to tell me, and you missed the point of my post. Please stop posting.
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>>56620271
waht drivers are you using? I have a 970 and had massive problems with the foss drivver. The nvidia driver works for me.
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>>56620312
I'm on proprietary drivers, version 367.44
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>>56620306
>things are loading when i think im not loading them, when in reality i am loading them, and now im bitching about a make believe issue cause im a special snowflake
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>>56620323
Ignore literally everything I said about RAM then. My performance still goes to shit to the point that my typing is lagged in 4chan posts or hangouts chats.
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i downloaded the newest wine release from here https://www.winehq.org/news/2016081901 and it's a zipped file. how do i actually install it? i've only installed things with sudo apt-get install _____
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>>56620321
did you try running
nvidia-xconfig
?
if that does not worrk try the nvidia-settings tool
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>>56620354
Why not install wine from the repos?
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>>56620354
what's in the zip?

if there's a make file then you probably just

make ; make install
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>>56620365
Yep, tried both. Nvidia-settings doesn't detect the other screen either.
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>>56620336
>to a crawl
RAM
>open youtube videos
CACHE
>liberally
Why did you buy so much ram that you get to load all this shit in to ram for future use? Surely 1GB of ram is enough!!!!

>>56620354
With your file manager from your distros repo
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>>56620379
there is a section in the nvidia article on the archwiki about this issue
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA#ConnectedMonitor
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What's the best distro?
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>>56620404
http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
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>>56620404
stop
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>>56620404
Debian stable for stability, Debian sid for rolling, don't fall for the Arch meme, stay away from derviants.
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>>56620404
Arch is pretty good. I've also heard good things about NixOS and GuixSD.

I would personally recommend you avoid anything based on Debian. Saying this as someone who started using Ubuntu/Mint back in Elementary School and spent a solid 3-4 years on Debian Testing. A lot of my love for Arch is actually just love for non-Debian distros, as Arch was the first non-Debian distro I spent an extended period of time with.
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>>56620404
new? ubuntu
not new? debian
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>>56620366
i installed it that way and was told it's out of date
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>>56620431
Guix isstill in beta, right? Checked the page some weeks back. Pretty nice idea that thing.
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>>56620443
If you're using Debian there's wine and wine-development, you probably want wine-development.
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>>56620374
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>>56620454
Yeah, I think so. If you like the idea, all the more reason to look into NixOS. I believe NixOS is very similar and had the idea first. GuixSD is just the 'everything is GNU' version I think. I've heard people call GuixSD a NixOS clone. Personally haven't had the time to try out either one yet. I don't have a decent hypervisor setup at the moment and I don't wanna give up a physical machine either.
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>>56620473
okay, unzip it somewhere, then try

./configure ; make; make install


If someone else has advice, take it over mine, I rarely compile software from source, but that's what this is doing.
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>>56620473
there's a configure, just run that.
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>>56620489
>not checkinstall
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>>56620506
I don't really know what I'm doing. I just didn't want no one to help him. Feel free to take over.
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>>56620489
>>56620492
He doesn't need to compile it from source if it's already in the repositories.
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>>56620060

How do I wipe a laptop and install Linux?
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>>56620473
>.tar.bz2
why'd you call it a zip? the neutral term would be 'archive'
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>>56620531
Most distros do that automatically if you tell them so during install.
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>>56620531
Generally installing any OS takes care of the wiping part. (unless you tell it not to in the installer by resizing partitions and such)

You'll probably want to start by choosing a distro and burning the iso to a usb flash drive to install it with. If you're on a unix-like system, look up how to use dd for this process. If you're on Windows, I think win32diskimager can also do a good job of this. Just keep in mind you're NOT just putting the .iso file on the flash drive.
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>>56620522
>if it's already in the repositories.
Which it's not
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>>56620560
He mentioned apt-get so he's using a Debian-based OS and Debian has the latest version of wine (1.9.18) on the repos.

https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/wine-development
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>>56620598
>backports
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>>56620598
thanks, i'll try it out on wine development next time. for now i'm going to install steam and just play some made for linux games since i'm tired of trying to get wine to work lol
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Why is this conditional not working? With just the if..then..else..fi it works, but not with else if. Do I need to add fi's for those ifs as well?

if [ "$v_res" = "720" ]; then
h_res="1280"
else if [ "$v_res" = "540" ]; then
h_res="960"
else if [ "$v_res" = "360" ]; then
h_res="640"
else
echo "invalid resolution"
exit
fi
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>>56620757
Is that supposed to be bash? Use "elif" instead of "else if".
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>>56620757
Bash knows no "else if"

>Do I need to add fi's for those ifs as well?
Pretty much, or you use "elif"
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Is there a painless way to rename a user, and transfer all of its permissions to the new username?
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>>56620556
>>56620551

Can you explain it to someone who has no idea what you just said? Haha
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>>56620836
Well the easiest way I know is using usermod but you'll still have to change some things manually.
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>>56620805
>>56620814
Thanks, elif makes sense.

Now I'm wondering something else. This is part of a quick bash script for ffmpeg. I'm asking the user to supply some basic info like start time, target resolution and whether audio should be included.
Excerpt:
echo "audio? [y|N]"
read audio
if [ "$audio" = "y" ]; then
audiocmd="-c:a libvorbis -b:a 192K -vbr on"
maxsize=3700
else
audio="N"
audiocmd="-an"
maxsize=2900
fi

This is working. But when I pass
audiocmd
to ffmpeg with
ffmpeg -hide_banner -loglevel "info" -ss "$start" -t "$duration" -i "$1" -c:v libvpx -pass 2 -qmin 0 -qmax 50 -crf 10 -b:v "$bitrate" -s "$h_res:$v_res" "$audiocmd" -threads 2 -speed 0 -auto-alt-ref 1 -lag-in-frames 25 -g 128 -sn -f webm "./webm/$output.webm"

I get this error:
>Unable to find a suitable output format for '3'
>3: Invalid argument
I've traced this back to the
-threads 3
option but I can't figure out why this is only a problem when
audiocmd
is not "-an". Any idea? Can post the entire script if you want.
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How do I make gifs have a thumbnail isnt of being blank like this? Using Ubuntu by the way
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>>56621148
Use a better file manager.
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Hey people. I'm switching from Windows to GNU/Linux, and I noticed that fonts are rendered differently between the two.

For example, pic related shows this thread being rendered in Firefox with the same Firefox profile on Debian Unstable and Windows 10.

How do I make Debian's font rendering a little sharper, or perhaps thinner?
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>>56621187
If you like the windows style just customize your fontconfig. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration

Theres something that automates it for noobs tho: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
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>>56621187
4chan css:
{
font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;
font-size: 10pt;
}
>>56621309
If he wants exactly the same, he needs the original font too.
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>>56621187
>>56621309
>>56621379
>not using bitmap master race fonts system wide
>dealing with blurry true type fonts
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>>56621404
What does this thread look like for you? I'm curious.
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>>56621115
it's because you're quoting "$audiocmd" so it will make the entire variable a single argument
in this case, don't quote $audiocmd because you actually want to expand the parameters
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>>56621563
Thank you!
>>
amazed at how automatically audacity and my recording interface work in linux. the only hiccup is that it records in stereo with the right channel muted even though the interface is mono, so i have to split the tracks and delete one every time. but that's no problem. if anyone's wondering whether their guitar or mic interface will work in linux, from this experience i say it likely will. literally just plugged it in and selected it as audio input
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>56612473
>56613224

I'm trying to install GalliumOS on my Acer cb3 531 chromebook. GalliumOS is supposed to be tailored to fit chromebooks. The installer that I mounted an image of to a flash drive handles the partitioning, it gives me an option to do manual partitions, but I'm not really sure what I'm doing. I know I need to give GalliumOS an ext4 formatted partition of some size, and the OS's wiki says it takes up 2.7GB of disc space, but I should probably give it more. I'm thinking I'll give it 5 GB, but I'm not sure, my netbook only has 16 GB HDD.

When I pressed esc at startup to get into the bios, it only listed the usb flash drive as a possible boot. When I try to boot without the flashdrive, it says it can't find anything to boot from the disk drive

Here's the lsblk outpout
galliumos@galliumos:~$ lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda 8:0 1 7.6G 0 disk /cdrom
>sda1 8:1 1 956.5M 0 part
loop0 7:0 0 933.9M 1 loop /rofs
zram0 252:0 0 2.8G 0 disk [SWAP]
mmcblk0boot0 179:8 0 4M 1 disk
mmcblk0boot1 179:0 0 4M 1 disk
mmcblk0 179:0 0 14.7G 0 disk
>mmcblk0p1 179:1 0 14.7G 0 part
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>http://www.thedarkmod.com/main/
Has anyone been able to run the Dark Mod on linux lately? It's a free and open source version of Thief.

It seems like a few 32bit packages are no longer available on most distros. The furthest I got was a black screen with sound.Their wiki hasn't been updated in a long ass time so I'm thinking it might be abandonware.
>>
>>56612473
>>56613224
and I transcribed the lsblk output
>>
>>56621148
>>56621166
i also have this problem. what do i do? how do i get a better file manager?
>>
galliumos@galliumos:~ $ sudo lsblk --fs
NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPIONT
sda iso9960 ISOIMAGE 2016-07-02-03-17-18-00 /cdrom
>sda1 iso9660 ISOIMAGE 2016-07-02-03-17-18-00
loop0 squashfs /rofs
zram0 [SWAP]
mmcblk0boot0
mmcblk0boot1
mmcblk0
>mmcblk0p1 ext4 c6ed8602-5fe9-48f6-b426-b847e3d9f315
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>>56620060
What's the best VM to run Linux?
Is VMware Worstation Pro (with a fake licence) retarded?
Whats the best distro for a n00b that desperately wants to learn and experiment, and is concerned about privacy+security?
(But will still be comfy to use)
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How do I set wallpapers individually for different monitors in Gnome 3?
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Quick! What youtube-dl arguments produce the video/sound quality? The video is from youtube. Spoonfeed me pls.
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>>56622296
nevermind google was faster than all of you, step your game up
>>
>>56622235
The best distro for a noob is either Ubuntu or openSUSE. Ubuntu because it has the most support. OpenSUSE because it has yast so lots of things can be configured in a gui so it is easier and it uses btrfs which allows you to rollback to an earlier snapshot in case you fuck something up.
>>
Would there be a particular reason why the
LANG=ja_JP.utf8 wine ANIME_TITTIES.EXE
I used on Fedora doesn't work on Ubuntu? Distro-specific or what config files of mine would be messed up?
>>
>>56622426
Thank you.
Any advice on VM or it doesnt really matter?
Should I just install it on a seperate partition and forget the VM?
>>
is it bad not to unmount removable drives before shutting down?
>>
>>56622563
>>56622235
virtualbox is good, it's owned by oracle though and oracle bribes politicians to expand its monopoly
>>
>>56622711
I'm probably bullshitting, but if you're shutting down the correct way, everything gets unmounted for you.
>>
>>56622728
so what? every big company does that
>>
>>56622740
because it's wrong and there's alternatives that don't support evil companies
>>
>>56622256
seriously no one?
>>
>>56622711
If the device was made post 2000 there is zero reason to.
>but but but buuuut my sync
I have never lost any data just removing the device when it wasnt being used
>>
>>56622256
How does GNOME even work with multiple monitors? When you enter the activities overview do windows you had open on other screens just stay there? When you switch workspaces do you get a new workspace for all monitors or just one? Why are you running GNOME on a computer that isn't a laptop, anyway?
>>
>>56622343
google is the first step friend
>>
>>56622515
probably missing the actual locale files
check if you have them with
$ locale -a
>>
Why is Gentoo so based?
>>
Is it preferrable to use urxvtd over spawning different processes?
>>
>>56623021
Yeah that was it. How come american distro Fedora had those files installed by default?
>>
It is absolutely infuriating how fucking bad the trackpad support is on this. Moving the mouse cursor feels awful and "tap to click" and "two finger tap to right-click" don't fucking work most of the time. I'm here furiously tapping to get them to work.

THIS IS SO FUCKING GAY, I'm forced to use the actual clickers at the bottom of the trackpad to get shit done. Like fucking retards use
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If I download or write a file to my /tmp directory, encrypt it and move that file somewhere else will the original file be able to be recovered after reboot? The /tmp directory supposed to be stored in ram right so it shouldn't?
>>
Installed Lubuntu earlier. Comfiest distro ever.

Is there a guide to securing it though? I remember Mint was terrible for security.
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> configuring laptop touchpad in xorg.conf.d
> literally just two lines to enable edge scrolling
> that and the stuff that's required for it to be recognized as a config file
> works, xorg is fine
> can no longer paste/close tabs by middle-clicking

How do I get this ability back? I have no clue what the name of that function would be.
>>
>>56623652
change your repeat rate
>>
>>56623652

have you tried switching it off and then back on again?
>>
>>56623658
nvm, /tmp is a tmpfs partition so yes.
>>
Just installed Debian testing and found out Gnome 3 sucks. Installed mate, now how do I switch? Rebooted and it still defaults to Gnome.
>>
>>56623943
nvm, figured it out on my own
>>
>>56623943

At the logon screen there will be an option menu where you can select the desktop environment. It's usually a gear or spanner icon but may be something else.
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>>56620060
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>>56624006
thanks that's exactly what I did. Didn't reboot yet, but I assume it's been set as default now, right?
>>
>>56624055

It should remain the default until changed.
>>
Is mate a good de?
>>
>>56624193
sure
>>
What's the best way to run android apps on linux?
End goal would be to have netflix on linux and other stuff like that.
>>
>>56624337
>End goal would be to have netflix on linux

Netflix.com
>>
>>56624432
did they make it play nice on linux finally? You don't have to use WINE or google chrome?
>>
>>56621148
>>56621976
Read the wiki
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_manager_functionality#Thumbnail_previews
>>
>>56624337
Genymotion or Archon.

If KDE gets more money, shashlik would be a to-go solution
>>
How do I install mate DE in Ubuntu 16.04? Different places say different things.
>>
>>56624479
$sudo apt install mate-core -y

Reminder to keep the list of to-be-installed packages somewhere. Apt is retarded and will not be able to remove the MATE desktop
>>
>>56624501
appologies, it's ubuntu-mate-core instead of mate-core
>>
>>56624501
>Reminder to keep the list of to-be-installed packages somewhere. Apt is retarded and will not be able to remove the MATE desktop
How do I do that?
>>
>>56624659
>apt install something
>Enter
>The following new packages will be installed:
>a b c d e ...
Copy the output and save it somewhere
>y
>>
Is mint a good distro for someone coming straight off windows?
I have it dual booted with windows and it seems pretty okay but I don't really know much about linux yet. Should I switch now before I settle too far into this one?

I'll mainly use it for browsing the web and writing programs if that helps. I want to learn to customize shit too
>>
Can you do this in Linux?

Do you see how the browser tabs in my picture are on the same row as my minimize/maximize/close buttons? Can you produce a screenshot similar to this from your computer? From what I've always seen on Linux, the minimize/maximize/close buttons will be on their own separate row completely and below it will be the row with tabs.

This isn't to boast. I sincerely wish to see if it can be done or not so that I can set it up this way on my linux desktop as well.
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>>56620060
Daily reminder systemD is killing Linux and we're all moving to BSD.
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>>56624817
Get Ubuntu MATE.
>>56624823
Of course
>>56624874
BSD is garbage and there's nothing wrong with systemd
>>
>>56624887
>BSD is garbage and there's nothing wrong with systemd
Lenart pls go.
>>
>>56624887
That's Cinnamon, right? What'd you do?
>>
>>56624896
>Best thing to happen to init since openrc
>moving to BSD

XD
>>
>>56624899
I just use chromium

>>56624896
Good to know I earn six figures while you fail to pay your bills without your mom's credit card or NEETbux
>>
Is awesome window manager really awesome?
>>
>>56624896
>>56624874
Why don't you make your own thread and whinge like the lonely basement dweller you are there?
>>
>>56624923
IDK why people use bare WMs but whatever you are comfy with, man
>>
>>56624823
Chrome does it by default. For Firefox you'll need an extension
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rip in pepperoni libreboot. press f to pay respects
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>>56624940
I've never used bare wms, so I'm curious.
>>
>>56624874
>BSD cucks too jelly that systemd won't work in their NEET OS
LMAO hehe

>>56624968
See >>56624625
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>>56620685
>>56621862
>>56621929
>>56622235
>>56624337
>>56624441
>>56624817
>>56624823
>>56624874
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Checkem.
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Anyone know how to make unzip not be stupid with files I downloaded from a japanese windows user? Even though they're obviously encoded in shift-jis, every tool I use insists they're utf-8 and I can't possibly change it. I can read moon runes a little but I can't read pluto runes.
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>>56624909
How is a growing cancer that refuses to just be an init qualify as best?
>>56624913
I'm sure.
>>56624926
Because then you'd continue to wallow in ignorance.
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>>56624984
>NEET OS
Projecting
>>56625034
>Checkem.
Sad!
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>>56625034
>off by one
next time and thank dr stalman
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>>56624968
DRAMA!
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>>56620060
How do I make linux mint 18 as C O M F Y for shitposting as possible
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>>56625140
Uninstall it. https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
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>>56625157
>OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN
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>>56625076
Because it handles pretty much every aspect of init more sanely and more quickly.

Like to the point that you realize that all other inits are fucking garbage script kiddy shit, why settle for "good enough" when you can do it right?
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>>56625199
Stop giving the NEET too much (you)s
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>>56625199
>more sanely
Rampant growth outside the scope of its role isn't sane.
>>56625220
Projecting again.
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>>56625157
yeah I don't really care about any of that shit
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>>56625248
Anti mint jews BTFO
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>>56625242
That only happened because a lot of stuff needed to be fixed.
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>it's another systemd is EVIL! poster
>two fucking years later
If you haven't donated to the Devuan project, you have no fork in this cake. Maybe if you had they would have a release ready for the mass market.
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>>56624823
if you want to do it with firefox get this:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-caption-titlebar-plus-sma/

go into the extension's preferences and change the skin to auto
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>>56625277
>stuff needed to be fixed
You don't fix things by subsuming them in a growing tumor. You fix them individually.
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>>56620060

Is that shit really possible or are they writing out their asses?
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>>56625306
I disagree.
Would you call the Linux kernel devfs cancer because mdev exists?

You are just ignorant and afraid of change.
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On bash, I want to download files showing the Wget progress bar, but don't want to flood the screen. So I configured my script to erase the line after the file was downloaded, and then print the next progress bar, for the next file provided, on the same line.

This works well, but only if the files are really downloaded when the script is ran. As my Wget is configured as "no clobbing", it's frequent that it don't download files it already has. In these cases, the script erases lines above the one where the progress bar would be, deleting all that was wrote before. This isn't good.

So, now that I gave some context, I ask: how to check if the progress bar was printed? I tried some things, but they give me some errors. It can't be simply "$?" because Wget returns 0 if it don't download anything but there was no error.

Thanks.
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>>56625489
>Would you call the Linux kernel devfs cancer because mdev exists?
Not even close to equivalent to the systemD cancer. It's becoming a hundred and one things on top of it's intended role. That's obviously and necessarily going to cause harm down the road.

>You are just ignorant and afraid of change.
Nope, just applying simple formal logic. Something you blind systemD followers seem to have forgotten.
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>>56625539
Not even close?

Its an apt description of a better implementation part of a bigger project replacing a smaller implementation.

Its a pretty fucking good example of exactly what you are complaining about. Its faster and cleaner and you have literally no real complaint beyond you don't like it.
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>>56625565
>replacing the tires on my car with tracks
>gutting the car, caulking it, and turning it into a boat
No difference between these two huh?
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>>56625598
Apples and oranges friend.
Can't fix stupid.
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>>56625609
>Can't fix stupid.
So you agree systemD is stupid?
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>>56625598
Were you planning on storming a beach with a station wagon?
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>>56625598
stop posting replies, dumb trip cancer loving cancer
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>>56625565
You need to leave.
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Just filter him you stupid fucks.
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>>56625653
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>>56625653
>>56625615
>>56625539
FUCK OFF
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>>56625805
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Is openSuse worth installing. I like KDE, but dislike kubuntu, the distro I was using. Should I install openSuse or should I consider an other distro?
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>>56625942
openSUSE is a great distro, but you definitely should consider other distros. You can install KDE on any distro so consider other things about the distro.
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>>56625942
No cuz it's systemd X-DDDDDDD
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>>56625990
any suggestion?
Is arch worth the time? I'm relative new in Linux world
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>>56625990
Oh shit you can install KDE really?
Got any more tips? I'm sure all of /g/ is benefiting from your fucking gems of wisdom.
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>>56625990
OpenSUSE has a really nice implementation of KDE, probably the best
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>>56625996
Why to lincucks hate simple init systems?
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>>56620060
where can I download this bomb program?
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>>56625942
As a linux user you will be running Debian sooner or later. Why not cut to the chase and install it today?
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>>56626009
>Is arch worth the time?
if you have a lot of it, sure
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>>56626043
No one wants random half assed garbage any longer, NEET cuck
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>>56626073
>Why not cut to the chase and install it today?
Might as well skip to FreeBSD then because linux is kill.
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>>56626097
If I make you a thread will you stop crying?
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>>56626097
BSD is has no softwares
BSD is not secure.

Get out and shill your OS in your own thread
>>>/g/lgbt
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>>56626106
>>56626127
lol stay triggered
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@56626137
You leeched for long enough, BSD cuck. No more (you)s
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>>56626009
I have used Linux for 6 years before I decided to install arch.
It took me a weekend the first time but it gave me a lot of insight.
Once it is installed it aims to be the most easy distro to use, but the installation is the part that discourages new users.
Most arch users doesn't install it again.
Either they keep the install alive or they move on.
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>>56626009
>>56626073
>>56626097
>>56626203
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>>56626090
>That picture
This is what happens when you put paid professionals to write code for your system instead of some neckbeards.
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>trying to make bootable usb for debian testing iso
>spent whole day because this shit doesn't work for various random reasons
>finally it's loading properly
>installer is loading files
>suddenly stops at middle
>"CANNOT FIND FILE PLEASE CHECK CDROM OR GO FUCK YOURSELF"
>clicking veryfind cdrom or something
>it tells me this is not valid debian cdrom
>despite it launched installer just fine
Is it always like that with testing branch? Should I use stale branch instead?
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>>56626797
you're supposed to download stable and upgrade it to testing. it's easy a fuck. you're wasting time. stop wasting time.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
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>wanted to install linux distro on chromebook
>flashed some of the firmware so I could use seaBIOS
>wrote .iso to USB flash drive
>booted from flash drive
>followed installation procedure
>turned off comp
>removed flash drive
>turned on comp
>seaBIOS can't find anything to boot from

don't have any idea what to do, I've re-installed the OS a few times now, and it's the same every time. Fuck am I supposed to do?
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>>56626826
linux comes with an installer now?
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>>56626864
don't a lot of linux distributions come with installers? I don't know much about this stuff, so please correct me
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>>56626824
Eh, okay, thanks.
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>>56626394
At least the neckbeards get shit working fast even if it isn't "elegant".
That's the problem with BSD.
They are more concerned with being "elegant" than functional which is why it's it's mostly only used on some severs where they want to make use of it's fancy file system abilities.
Trying to use it as a desktop OS is almost as bad as trying to use Haiku.
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>>56626826
please guys, I know I shouldn't ask you to solve my problems, but please point me in the right direction, what to start reading about, the relevant wikis and user discussions aren't talking about my problem
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>>56626826
Checking the boot order in the bios is the only thing I can suggest.
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https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Disable_touchpad_while_typing
i want to completely disable the touchpad while typing. i've been reading the above and fiddling with the commands but i cant get it to completely shut off the touchpad when typing.
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>>56626962
hm, ok I'm reading into it
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>>56624501
>>56624501
I've installed it but the brightness control doesn't work and the file manager keeps closing for no reason. I guess I'll have to stick to unity.
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Is there a way to run a complete xsession in chroot?
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>>56627342
actually, I fixed the brightness problem, and It seems the file manager stopped closing itself randomly.
But now I realised I can't make windows snap to the corner of the screen. I've installed compizconfig, but it didn't work
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What distro should I install on my laptop? (A10 9600p, 8GB DDR4, R7m 440)
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>>56624823
Don't listen to >>56625295
"Hide Caption Titlebar Plus" is an unpolished, bloated piece of trash, but "Htitle" is simple and works by removing your titlebar when the window is maximized. Pic related.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/htitle/
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>>56629027
Sorry I fucked the screenshot up somehow
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I switched from Windows 10 to Ubuntu about two months ago, and I'm still trying to figure out one simple thing. Let me explain.

In windows 8 and 8.1 they added hotcorners on the top left and top right. The top right hotcorner opened a shitty menu and showed a big clock on the bottom left of the screen (pic related). In Windows 10, this clock feature was removed, so I recreated it using Rainmeter.

After switching to Ubuntu, I have tried a few ways to recreate this, but I'm stumped. I have got it kind of working with Conky, but it's fucky, and the way it works right now is this:

A Conky widget is running at all times, and it is fixed to the desktop. When I move the mouse to the top right corner, I run a bash script where sed replaces "normal" with "desktop" or "desktop" with "normal", as "desktop" means the widget is fixed to the desktop, while "normal" means the widget is on top of all other windows.

I'm not satisfied with this, as it is really slow. It takes Conky two to three seconds to apply the change to the widget and show the result on screen. Furthermore, the clock is always showing on the desktop, making the desktop look less clean whenever I look at it. I would like to be able to fade the widget in and out (maybe over the span of 2-400ms).

I'm sorry for the long explanations, but I'm wondering if any of you can recommend other applications that I can use to recreate the functionality I'm looking for, or point me in another direction for making Conky widgets show on top of all other windows when the mouse is in a corner of the screen, and hide the widget when the mouse is removed from the corner.

Thank you for your time.
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>>56620404
Slackware
>simple with no bullshit. Follows the KISS principal very well
>vanilla linux, no packages were modified to work for the distro. Because they were vanilla packages, they pick packages that work.
>very stable, rivals debian
>god tier installer
>very easy to modify and rice with the scripts it comes with, making your own scripts, and plaintext config files.
>you learn Linux, other distros you learn that distro, but Slackware you learn a lot about how Linux works. Only way to go deeper is to do Linux from scratch.
I love Slackware, just install, get everything setup, and forget about it. You won't need hours of maintenance like other distros.
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>>56620290
Are you sure it's not a hardware issue? You might have damaged the jack when you tripped on the cable. A slightly loose connection might cause audio issues.
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>>56629135
gnome3 has what you want by default and is rather nice as a new user.
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>>56629250
Here's what he said he wanted:
> The top right hotcorner opened a shitty menu and showed a big clock on the bottom left of the screen (pic related).

GNOME doesn't have a big clock that appears in the corner of the screen, it has an activities menu (pic related). Please read entire comments before you blatantly lie to people.
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>>56629186
Anyone else had this issue with the brightness adjustment bar in GNOME 3? It has little grey squares on the corners of the white line instead of looking nice and rounded.

Any ideas on how to fix it?
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>>56629250
I have looked at and tested the functionality several desktop environments, including gnome3, ant it seems incapable of doing what I want. I don't want to switch windows, I want a big ass clock to show, just like >>56629286 said. I'm asking here because I've been trying to find a solution for this for about a month, and the Conky way I described earlier is the closest I've been able to come.
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best file manager for arch anons?

nautilus->buggy (when i open folder big folders, it goes like shit)
thunar->unexpected closing (minute ago i pasted file into folder and shit just closed)
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>>56629399
>Not using CLI
It's mostly XFCE, not thunar fault.
What's the file size?
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>>56629343
Fixed it by reinstalling gnome-shell "apt install --reinstall gnome-shell" and rebooting.
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>>56629419
anon, xfce works like shit for me, i have gnome
When i was using ubuntu, i always had xfce+thunar but on arch i dont know why it works like shit.
>What's the file size?
it was a picture, so ~1~mb
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>>56629449
Then try nemo.
Honestly though why are you using gnome?
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>>56629470
Don't know, i never liked it coz it was buggy, but on arch it works fine.
Which one would you suggest me?
>no xfce
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I like how deepin looks, is it good?
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>>56629501
XFCE on arch is fine with me, maily using it for thunar share plugin and XFCE goodies.
You could try MATE or cinnamon.
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>>56629399
Spacefm is nice faggot.
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Is it possible to run xsession from chroot ?
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>>56629608
yes
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>>56629565
>faggot
don't call me like that pls
>Spacefm
me gusta, thanks nigga


One more question, how could i set spacefm to be default file manager?
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am i gonna regret it?
sudo pacman -S deepin-extra
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>Using systemDick/Linux unironically
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>>56623664
Lubuntu is great.
Installed it on my moms old PC and it works great.
And any linux distro is 1000x better at security than windows, so dont worry too much.
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Hey, i just installed deepin but i dont have it in de list when i start system?
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>>56629616
How I've been trying for hours.
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hey im kind of new to this stuff, i see some screenshot with 4.xx kernel, should i upgrade or are there any noticeable difference?
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>>56625034
>>
Any manjaro users?
Why is this in pacman.conf?
SyncFirst    = manjaro-system
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Does anyone use CLI network managers? I've been using connman and I have my networks set to autoconnect but I always have to reconnect manually when I wake my laptop from sleep. Can someone recommend me a not shit network manager?
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>>56630530
because manjaro is shit
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>>56630434
From this page: https://wiki.debian.org/KernelFAQ
>It is often not necessary [to use a newer kernel] since the default kernel shipped with Debian handles most configurations.
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I made a bash script that I often run from different directories on my pc. Is there some place I can put it so I don't have to supply the path to it every time and can just call
$ bash myscript.sh --poo "in loo" -
? Obviously it doesn't belong in /usr/local/bin because it's not a binary file.
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I've installed spotify on my mint install and it's kind of shitty. Everything works okay, until I minimize or exit the window.
It process stays open and music stays playing even though I closed it. There's no notification icon either. When I go to open it again it just opens a new instance where I would like it to open the instance already running in the background.

Is there anything I can do for this? If I minimize or close the window I'm basically screwed if I want to use the program again and have to kill all its processes.
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>>56630722
>Obviously it doesn't belong in /usr/local/bin because it's not a binary file.
you'd be wrong, and surprised at how many things in your bin folders are actually shell scripts
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>>56630722
you could use an alias or a function in your .bashrc, but you can also put it in /usr/local/bin with no problem
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>>56630839
>>56630848
But that triggers my autism.
Can i put it in /usr/local/scripts and add that directory to my PATH via .bashrc?
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>>56629783
Never will. Gentoo til it dies, then BSD.
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I installed debian with xfce last year and forgot about it, how do I get back in? my computer automatically boots into windows
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>>56630959
By changing the boot order and / or removing spyware bloat.
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>>56629135
Bind this to a hotkey:

[ "$(date +%M)" = "00" ] && s=" o’clock, rock." || s="."; notify-send "I’d just like to interject for a moment." "It’s $(date +%H:%M)${s}"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjQAvEVbtA
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>>56620531
Give it back Jamal.
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>>56624193
Xfce is the only good de, WMs are much better.
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>>56630722

put into .bashrc or .bash_profile

export PATH=/path/to/your/executabes:$PATH

run:
source .bashrc or .bash_profile

check if new path was defined

echo $PATH
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>>56631097
oh i also forgot:
1. make you pooscript executable and define the interpeter in the first line of your script

chmod +x /some/script

#!/bin/bash
or if you want script user to use his/her own version of bash instead of systems
#!/bin/env/bash

2. check the path of your executables with which

which pooscript
/usr/bin/which pooscript
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>>56631097
>>56630722
DON'T DO THIS IT MAKES CHLORIC ACID
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>>56630434
>>56630708
>massive performance improvements
>massive jump in video driver performance
>massive new features already compiled in stock upstream kernel

Yeah, totally dont update
Even servers have bumped up to v4
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>>56631139
>>56631097
Thanks, I knew how to do that, just not if it'd work.
For clarification purposes: after doing all this, do I execute pooscript just by calling
$ pooscript --poo-location "loo" 
or with
$ bash pooscript --poo-location "loo"
?
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>>56630652
It sounds like you dont have your udev rules properly setup to wake on suspend, or your card isnt being woken upon startup
Also
netctl
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>>56631170
was glad to help
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>>56628928
GENTOO REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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can someone help me with this?
>pic = problem
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>>56631170
if you've done the steps in my first post you can:

 pooscript --some-option "some_arg" 
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https://notabug.org/vimuser/libreboot/commit/b204a20ba79830188695b61ab899dd45f8b009ef
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>>56631236
Install the relevant font.
Or install noto set of fonts for a catch all solution.
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>>56631269
>https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ttf-noto/
this?
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>>56630722
>mkdir ~/bin
>PATH$
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>>56631291
Why do people automatically look in aur first?
noto-fonts and noto-fonts-cjk are available in Extra repo.
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>>56631165
I felt no noticeable difference between 3.16 and 4.7 in day to day usage, but if you say so.
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What are the basic security-related steps you take when you install Debian? (or any other distro)

Is "hardening" kind of an overkill thing to do for a somewhat basic-mid level user?
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>>56631353
>not using boomi infinality repo
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>>56631398
(I'm using Testing on one computer and Sid on another, if it matters at all)
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>>56631404
Yuck, what a load of bloat. Especially with the new freetype, completely pointless bloat.
>>
Does Linux even have sandbox software?
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>>56631443
>moron
>muh minimal arch
>installs a million different fonts when one simple config works fine
You've never even set up a fontconfig without it have you?
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>>56631460
>sandbox software
What even is sandbox software?

This is the most relevant page when searching: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_(software_development)
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>>56631483
I've removed all but fira sans,liberation,dejavu,roboto and inconsolataza4
>being this retarded
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>>56631491
Let me change the question. It's there software like sandboxie or freebsd jails? Software that isolates untrusted software and won't harm the OS.
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>>56631491
basically you create a new basic install within a container.
So when you build packages, you wont have extra deps or configs that your program does not need upon compile time when you distribute it

It can also be used to isolate programs from accessing your main system, via a chroot. Though doing this isnt really a security feature, as alot of shit bypasses it
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>>56631522
So you could have just installed those fonts in the first place
>arch retards actually think like this
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>>56620060
I think I have finally found out the connection between measuring our penis size and choosing a Linux distro for our computers.

Now, we should all assume the /g/ is full of teens and manchildren. These people have failed somewhere at their hs's life, failing keeping a contact with a gurl for example and they booked themselves as failures.

So, a normal, virgin teen measures their dick because they fear that they will not be able to cause joy to their future partner. It's been around since the launch of the Black Knight Satellite, this a normal behavior.

The thing is different with the depressive, negative personalities that the most of /g/ had. They actually stopped their effort to build a senpai or live happily, even if they are perfectly normal human beings, cause they booked themselves as ABSOLUTE OMEGAS.

Therefore, they had to find a way to replace these "instincts" with something else. Fortunately, ARPANET has been split up, due to misunderstanding between civilian facilities and the military, and the Internet happened. This was a true salvation to them...

Linux distros became relevant, many has been produced and still is. This was the solution. They started to stop with the worrying about their penis which they will "never" use, and they started to compare each others' distro of choice instead the size of their pricks.
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>>56631600
>EVERY distro comes with standard fonts needed to function in any graphical environment
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>>56631398
>>56631409
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>>56631460
>>56631534
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVZ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docker_(software)
https://pdos.csail.mit.edu/archive/mbox/
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>>56631534
Yes, in fact there's a whole distribution dedicated to this called ZorinOS, look it up
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>>56631658
(I meant to say "Pls respond" alongside the unrelated image)
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>>56631657
What does that have to do with infinality repo?
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>>56631682
>install dejavu from repo
>install liberation from repo
>install inconsolataza4 from repo
>install roboto from repo
>delete every other font installed
>there is literally only 4 font families installed

So you rather your fonts look like ass?
There is no bloat.
>>
has anyone tried antergos? I want to try arch, but don't want to to through the install process
>>
> on the way home
> think of minor change / additional feature I want to implement in my program
> get home
> boot pc
> open source code
> can't remember what it was I wanted to implement
> wrack brain for 15 minutes
> remember
> decide it's too minor and use-case virtually never occurs
> close text editor
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>>56631707
You have no idea what you are talking about. What makes you think those fonts look different from that repo than from any other repo?
>install a million fonts
>delete every other font installed
>I only wanted 4 fonts
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>>56631729
Arch is a meme, don't fall for it.
Antergos is a installer for it that just rebrands Arch.
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>>56631755
What the fuck are you even on about kid?

>install infinality
>install fonts i want
>uninstall everything else that OTHER PACKAGES INSTALLED

How did you get out of your yard? Lets take you back to your abusive crack whore of a mother
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>>56631778
'Arch is a meme' is a mame
Arch is not a meme
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>>56631808
What makes you think those fonts look different from that repo than from any other repo?
I'm sorry you're having trouble understanding English and logic Jose.
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>>56631843
By looking at them?
Holy dick how are you this retarded

Here
Download a font
zoom in 1,000,000 times and look at the pixels
do it with infinality
There is a huge fucking noticeable difference with proper fonts
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>>56631820
But it is anon. "simple and lightweight" but in reality broken and bloated.
>>
>>56631919
Then every distro that isnt puppy or LFS is broken and bloated
>>
>>56631353

Because they think the AUR is some magical place without realizing it's the Linux version of downloading random EXEs from the internet and running them (for them, because they don't read PKGBUILDs).
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>>56631949
broken: makes itself incompatible for "reasons"
for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4473235
bloated: 1 single arch package is 5 times more huge than a debian package, since arch doesn't split packages in binary/source/doc,etc
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>>56631996
This nigga get's it.
Arch Linux - a simply bloated linux distribution
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>>56631981
This is not the distros responsibility. The responsibility falls in the users hand.
>>
>>56631884

Not that guy, but I'm willing to be that you wouldn't even be able to distinguish your "Infinality" fonts and a normal fontconfig setup in a test.
You most likely read somewhere that Infinality is a "patrician" choice for fonts and now you're defending it blindly just to feel elitist and cool. You're basically the audiophile of the font world.

I laugh every time when someone posts one of those shitty infographics to install Arch and recommends installing adding a 3rd party repository, installing Infinality which messes up some official repository packages and maybe even zsh without utilizing 5% of Bash. That's the type of person which obsesses over Infinality.
>>
>>56632039
!
>>
>>56631996
>using post from 5 years ago
>>56632039
>third party repo
>fedora
>ubuntu
>debian
> all require third party repos for BASIC functionality
>installing Infinality which messes up some official repository packages
[citation needed]
>>
>>56632077
post is still relevant, python on arch is still linked to python3 instead of python2 (like on every other distro, for obvious compatibility reasons), this leads to broken programs which expect the usual behaivor
>>
it's always the same triggered debianfag every time arch, infinality or zsh gets mentioned
just don't reply
>>
>>56632077

>> all require third party repos for BASIC functionality
What a load of wrong information, there's no point in arguing with you. Only an out of touch idiot would make such a claim. You truly are one.

>citation needed
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality#Troubleshooting
Pick one of those.
>>
>>56632112

Can you link to a post (or posts) by that Debian person?
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>>56632097

You've been proven last time that nothing is broken on Arch regarding Python programs. Why do you still insist on being stupid? Do you think your stupidity will remain unnoticed just because it's a new day? No, you're doomed to be stupid forever.
>>
>>56632112
arch, infinality, zsh = all memes, you're right
why memes? because people blindly install it, following the other monkeys who already installed it, and all of them don't know how a distro works, a fontconfig works, a shell works

btw I dont see this linked to debianfags
>dislikes x or y
>must be using debian
this way?
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>>56632155
>arch wiki mentions workaround to fix the broken python2/python3 thing

>random archfag on the internet "proves" nothing is broken
I want to believe, but I can't
>>
HEY. I'm on Debian and I have internet, but I want it to be configured graphically instead of through a text file and commands.

How do I switch from using /etc/network/interfaces to network-manager-gnome? For some reason I just get this (pic related) when I try to use gnome nm, and nmtui doesn't list wlan0...
>>
>>56632219

For the tenth time idiot: name one package that is broken in Arch's official repositories. You can't, because nothing is broken. There is your proof. Just because you write a Hello World in Python 2 and it doesn't work when you type "python my_hello_world.py", doesn't mean the distribution is broken. According to your logic every other distribution is broken too, because my Hello World in Python 3 wouldn't work "out of the box" on that distribution.
Kill yourself.
>>
>>56632249

Make sure your WLAN device is managed by Network Manager. Look up on the internet to find out if it is and how to make it if it isn't.
>>
>>56632158
>come to thread
>gais i cant install program, it tells me i am missing 5000 dependencies
>lol apt dep hell
>>
>>56632251
he's not the only one, check out this guy (broken rythmbox)
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=109062
[closed]
>>
>>56632270
Great example you got there
>>
>>56632259
Thanks, that did it.

Just had to change "managed=false" to true in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
>>
I'd like to create a systemd service file and timer to reload a kernel module every 12 hours and restart an existing service.

I was curious if there was any special voodoo I need to do in order to modprobe -r and modprobe the driver in systemd (i.e. does this need to be a forking or simple script).
>>
>>56632251
You just don't know how it works anon. Before python3 was released all scripts got the shabang "python". When python3 was released, it got it's own: "python3".

How it works:
python should call python2, to be compatible to all programs written before python3
python2 should obviously link to python2
python3 to python3

This is how every other distro does it, exept Arch (which points python to python3) and this is why it constantly breaks programs. Use a search engine and realize that people got A LOT of problems because of that, because it BREAKS all programs, written before python3 with stuff that is not compatible to python3.
>>
>>56632356

According to this[0], simple should be appropriate. You use forking for daemons that keep on running in the background. Your script just runs once and exits.

[0] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html
>>
>>56632384
nothing is broken
>>
>>56632412
Because you say so, ignoring actual facts?
>>
>>56632432

No, because everything works for us and every other Arch Linux user.
>>
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>>56631996
>bloated: 1 single arch package is 5 times more huge than a debian package, since arch doesn't split packages in binary/source/doc,etc
Yeah, but it probably takes about the same amount of time to install Arch's version because pacman is quicker.

Arch and Debian are two very popular and usable distros. Neither is absolute shit, they just have different qualities and philosophies. Archwiki has a great page detailing the primary differences:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/arch_compared_to_other_distributions#Debian_GNU.2FLinux
>>
>>56632432
he must defend his distro of choice, an attack on his distro is like a personal attack, no matter what is wrong with his distro, he's tell you it didn't happen
>>
>>56632356
Why?
>>
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Honestly and legitimately, the best thing about Arch is the wiki.
>>
new thread: >>56632496
>>
>>56632356
>>56632392
use "oneshot" type
>>
>>56632464

You've been told by many people and explained that there is nothing broken or wrong with that decision. It's funny because you are doing exactly that what you're accusing other people of.
Don't you think that your attempt to hide your incompetence to do a simple thing (attaching a 3 at the end of python) didn't spiral out of control? How long are you going to display your stupidity and ignorance just to hide that fact? It won't turn out well for you.
>>
>>56632432
Every package made for Arch will already be aware of it and act accordingly to what the distro needs.

The only problems you might have is when you run scripts from elsewhere (like the interwebs or your other machines running different distros) on Arch.
>>
>>56632516
can I use oneshot with two commands?

like:

/usr/sbin/modprobe -r uvcvideo && /usr/sbin/modprobe uvcvideo
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>>56632465
because my security webcam shits the bed every 12-24 hours and no one can seem to figure out why...it's either the kernel module or the hardware behaving badly.
>>
>>56632620

Just create a script which calls those two. Avoid having them directly in the service file, it's clearner that way.
>>
>>56632620
not sure, but you can have it run a shell script
>>
>>56632654
>>56632661

ok thanks that makes sense
>>
>>56632620
>/usr/sbin/
not needed
also modprobe requires sudo
>>
>>56632654
>>56632661

is there a way to get the .timer unit to run an existing service after running the service that calls script?

>>56632678
it's required for service unit files and systemd calls non-user services with root privileges
>>
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does anyone know how to make border gaps in gnome 3 much like the WM's have? i have tried dconf, and gconf, and short of making a whole new theme i dont know what to do, even if i make a new theme i only know how to make the borders larger, which would give the illusion of gaps, but not actually have them. pic semi related
>>
>>56632702

> run an existing service
Like what? What for?
>>
>>56632733
i think there was a plugin for it. Otherwise try it with wmctrl
>>
>>56632733

Look for an extension. Your GTK theme can't do that, it's the window manager's responsibility.
>>
>>56632746
I have an existing service unit that runs motion (security webcam software)

I would like the .timer file to call the service file (that calls the script) to reload the uvcvideo module and then subsequently restart the motion service

This is the only way I've found that I can at least mask the problem
>>
>>56632784
you can always run "systemctl restart motion.service" at the end of the shell script
>>
>>56632798
ah yes that should work fine

sometimes it's just hard knowing the proper way to do these things since there's so many different ways to skin a cat
>>
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Have you ever watched a movie and thought to yourself
> gee there are so many great clips I'd like to turn into webms but copypasting all those ffmpeg commands is a hassle and I have to stop the movie for like a minute every time
?

You don't need to do that any longer. Here's a little bash script. You supply the input file when calling it, enter start time, length, target resolution and whether you want audio and this mofo creates a webm in a subfolder and logs all webms you created.

http://pastebin.com/nxtYzxGs

Enjoy, or don't.
>>
>>56632770
there is a plug in for it, its shellscape, but it conflicts with the even better tiling plug in gtile. is there any way to maybe fork and merge them? im skiddie enough to copy paste the right parts.

>>56632776
can mutter do this?
>>
>>56632784

Check out the OnFailure= feature.

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.unit.html#OnFailure=

That might be what you're looking for.
>>
>>56632819

Check this out >>56632846. You might not even need that timer then, because your "reload module" service will be only started when the webcam service dies.
>>
>>56632839

> im skiddie enough to copy paste the right parts.
That's not how it works.
>>
>>56632831
># write user params into logfile
># write user params into stdout
use tee or soemthing
>>
>>56632887
really all i want to do is gaps between the windows, when you want to make gaps in i3 you simply copy paste :P
>>
>>56632846
>>56632861

well the motion service doesn't really die, it just stops finding /dev/video0 because the hardware or kernel goes on the fritz and it starts spamming stderr

After going over the systemd man pages, I think this is my best option:

[Unit]
Description=motion detection system

[Service]
Type=notify
PermissionsStartOnly=true
User=motion
Group=video
ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/modprobe -r uvcvideo
ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/modprobe uvcvideo
Environment=LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib64/libv4l/v4l2convert.so
ExecStart=/usr/bin/motion -n
ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID
PrivateTmp=yes
WatchdogSec=7200
Restart=always

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target


No timer files necessary.
>>
>>56632907
Ah nice, will change that bit.
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